Merchant's Daughter [Endgame]

[Nancy Drew 39]

yeah Open 724 was my Perfect Scum Victory game so I'd say I performed my best there

I deepwolf'd and traumatized

the worst

lol

Can you link that? After being twice fooled by scum!duck, I really want to read this.

<3 @tw

[Krazy]

Yeah you're right, 3317 certainly tastes pretty townie.

So the continued solve is Gamma+TB? Like TB's continued paranoia about Moment is pretty impressive if she's scum with Gamma, ngl.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Like the 26? posts of Labyrinth are the main basis of your understanding of Scum Taly, right Nancy?

yeah, people like to refer to Labyrinth for me as scum

but i was a traitor who rep-ed out later

so i had no pt and i flaked. i dont think its 100% the best game to look at me for, but i was pretty mid-range performance there and was the last scum slot to be lynched i think?

No that would be random. Tw gladiated Wisdom/you before LYLO.

[Dannflor]

DT could have absolutely been protecting Gamma but I don’t recall anyone proposing Gamma be the first lynch

Remember how Gamma entered the day saying "wow it's weird how Pvt got ICed considering people were saying I was the first lynch huh"

hold on I'll get the quote in a sec

[Dannflor]

Interesting given I was stated to be first lynch. Is there anything beyond WiFoM that would explain that selection?

[Taly]

i shot that

TW

N1 and he was the jailkeeper - he townread me

viewtopic.php?f=52&t=76098

in SUPP, he was scum who shot me N1 - i survived to N2 because i had a passive delay utility - i townread him hard tho X_X

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=76441

in Echo Bay GRITS, he was an SK and i was one of the mafia groups

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=76118

in another game i forgot was when i kind of flaked D:

(but i also replaced in lol)

....

TW

was an SK and i was a heavily scumread townslot

viewtopic.php?f=55&t=76637

now you guys understand

how

TW

and I can very - very easily deathtunnel the other in a game.

[Taly]

i think SCM2 was the first game we both rolled the same alignment

[Taly]

oh look

Dann/Nancy/Krazy

are all here.

Loving this thread at the moment.

[Dannflor]

Unfortunately, I have reasons that I can’t elaborate on, both for my Dann townread and my Brie paranoia. I will meta him, to see if that changes but I have really strong reasons to townread Dann here. Like, I’m more confident on Taly but yes that and play, mechanically - Urist IC, Allo being wrong on every scumread so far, RC read and I really can’t see the sincerity and conviction in his posts, as easily fakable. Do you have some scumgames of his, that contradict that? I don’t want to be wrong here but so far, I don’t think I’m seeing Dann!scum here.

I would encourage you to meta me if you have the time. My only completed scum game is from 2012 unfortunately, but looking at some of my recent town games might help strengthen your read. I only say this because on the off chance the game doesn't end with Gamma/Brie gone, I want everyone to have the strongest possible reads they can get. I'll likely be doing the same for you once I get time.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Yeah you're right, 3317 certainly tastes pretty townie.

So the continued solve is Gamma+TB? Like TB's continued paranoia about Moment is pretty impressive if she's scum with Gamma, ngl.

That’s why I keep saying that she’s been townier than Gamma. It almost makes me a bit paranoid that Gamma isn’t playing similarly to Ok 2 here. She was full on survivalist in that game but she also played differently as scum in CoH as well, so I’m probably overthinking this.

[Taly]

I think we're overthinking.

Perhaps we should pause if

Gamma

flips town, but I sincerely, seriously, doubt a deepwolf is amongst us 4. My mind will literally break if that happens.

And so

TB

- by gameplay, associative, and PoE is scum.

[Dannflor]

Hi I see that I have 3 votes on me rn, could we not before I can present my case and stuff? I've found all the quotes I need so it'll probably be done in 18 hours tops.

Also let's give Pvt a chance to give some reads before we send him off? I don't really feel bothered by being voted but I feel like no one realizes the impact of removing the IC before they've had a chance to give reads

I have such a strong feeling that

Gamma is Grima Wormtongue whispering into the ear of our King IC PvTheoden

[Nancy Drew 39]

DT could have absolutely been protecting Gamma but I don’t recall anyone proposing Gamma be the first lynch

Remember how Gamma entered the day saying "wow it's weird how Pvt got ICed considering people were saying I was the first lynch huh"

hold on I'll get the quote in a sec

Interesting given I was stated to be first lynch. Is there anything beyond WiFoM that would explain that selection?

Yeah, I see your point but does anyone think that Gamma was in jeopardy of being lynched over DT, had he miraculously been able to turn things around?

[Krazy]

Town [Taly, Gamma, Vedith, Krazy, Ankamius]
Lean Town [Pink Ball, Alisae, Firebringer, RC]
Mixed [Nancy]
Null [TheBrie, Doubting Thomas, Dr Worm, Moment]
Leaning Scum [PvT]
Scum [Allomancer]

Alright let's play "can we meta Dann while only discussing towngames"

Uhhh... Dann, can you explain why you did not color-code your reads list in this game but you did in viewtopic.php?p=10691036#p10691036

and

viewtopic.php?p=10618196#p10618196

I feel like that's actually kinda a garbage argument but it's the only thing that catches my eye in the t-8 minutes before I hammer Gamma.

And it's not like you wouldn't color code a reads list as scum because I 'feel strongly' you would LOL, guess it's just a question of when you really started 'solving' in this game I guess vs. in a more normal game

[Gamma Emerald]

(expired on 2019-02-20 18:00:08) -- Gamma where are you?

Hi
Can you compress your questions down if possible?

[Taly]

Hi I see that I have 3 votes on me rn, could we not before I can present my case and stuff? I've found all the quotes I need so it'll probably be done in 18 hours tops.

Also let's give Pvt a chance to give some reads before we send him off? I don't really feel bothered by being voted but I feel like no one realizes the impact of removing the IC before they've had a chance to give reads

I have such a strong feeling that

Gamma is Grima Wormtongue whispering into the ear of our King IC PvTheoden

re: last night's page of

Taly V Gamma + PvtUrist

[Krazy]

Can you compress your questions down if possible?

Why should I not hammer you in 5 minutes?

Go

[Taly]

I highly doubt anyone who scumread

Urist

at any point Pre-Dance would've been OK to IC him.

[Gamma Emerald]

Hi I see that I have 3 votes on me rn, could we not before I can present my case and stuff? I've found all the quotes I need so it'll probably be done in 18 hours tops.

Also let's give Pvt a chance to give some reads before we send him off? I don't really feel bothered by being voted but I feel like no one realizes the impact of removing the IC before they've had a chance to give reads

I have such a strong feeling that

Gamma is Grima Wormtongue whispering into the ear of our King IC PvTheoden

I'M WHO????

[Dannflor]

Lmao, it's a fair question I guess

It's not alignment indicative for me for *reasons*

Basically, my colored reads lists occur as town when I feel like the game is closed to solved or I can solve the game by doing one. I might hypothetically do one as scum just to replicate my town game.

900 posts into the game, I didn't have super strong reasons for a lot of my reads, and I wasn't at the point where I felt sitting down and doing a giant color coded reads list with reasons would help solve the game at all.

If I did one now, I probably would color code it and provide detailed reasons for my thinking because we're very close to solving the game. That's essentially already what I plan to do by town casing my town reads later today.

I realize it's awkward to meta me while not discussing *THE GAME* I know is on your mind, but I'll do my best to answer any other questions you have

[Gamma Emerald]

Can you compress your questions down if possible?

Why should I not hammer you in 5 minutes?

Go

Irdk tbh
Like the only non-proponent for my lynch I see is Pvt

[Dannflor]

Gamma, what happened to your case on Brie?

What is your solve currently?

[Gamma Emerald]

My current solve is Taly + one of TB/Moment
As for that case I wanted to post it today but I doubt I'll have the time to focus on finishing it.

[Krazy]

Since Gamma just got here I guess I won't cut her off mid-post.

But given I did give a 4 hour warning on ITH... and I feel most of my arguments have been refuted more or less...

If Gamma agrees that if she flips green, we continue on to M-TB, then I think we just go for it?

[Krazy]

Taly

You're pretty strong on Taly > Dancefloor at this point?