Anime U-Pick: King Size [SEASON FINALE...?]

[Near x Mello]

VOTE: Robert
Reading Dunns case I happen to agree with him. I glazed over the Mort ate and now we're all caught up again. That does make question my RP read, but we'll revisit that later

this does not feel like a buddy vote

~Near

Why not?

why not vote rp at that point? or why not vote vanity vote like she later did? no reason to vote her buddy there

~Near

[Near x Mello]

probably

provably*

[Ankamius]

Chito:

I can already summarize the problem with comparing 2023 and 2181: they were made 47 hours apart.

[Ankamius]

are there any specific posts that are especially indicative?

Chito: 2435 was for you, Ank.

Unfortunately it does also then require you to find Flavor Leaf's case on N&M, which is summarized in 2187. So the problems people have with Gamma's slot hinge in part in how you think Gamma would respond to 2187.

My concerns with Gamma sheeping FL on N&M partly hinge on how Gamma presented her read of SSBF (Vedith redflip slot), which you can see here:

Spoiler:

Also SSBF proly town

Also SSBF proly town

why

I liked what they were saying.

Gamma what of ssbf's catch up did you like lol i dont get it

In a sec

Tbh I like SSBF's posting a lot less now. I think I just saw walls with seemingly thought out statements and townbinned it.

In short, for our previous redflip, Gamma said she liked the slot, stalled on explaining why, then backpedaled by saying she townread the slot only because of wallposts, which seems loosely similar to what she was doing irt to FL's posts on N&M this dayphase.

idk, I'm not seeing why this is more likely to come from scum than town. I've had moments almost exactly like that one at least a dozen times in the past as town, and I would kinda expect Gamma to already have an explanation ready or at least to try to pass it off with some made up bs rather than backpedal on it like she did.

[Chito and Yuuri]

I don't think that Morality is scum because he's risking being lynched by taking a stand and pushing who he thinks is scum.

Chito: Perhaps, but hasn't each of his different claims seemed survivalistic?

He claimed he could be "confirmed" when he could not be
He implied he should be townread for being "loud" when there is no reason to believe this is the case
He apparently got Clemency-slot to "make him a bomb" (which I guess Ankamius can choose whether she wants to retract or not), thus meaning he cannot be killed safely by a town vigilante
I think somewhere someone said something about being quasi ascetic?
And at every point he has insisted he should be evaluated in later dayphases

This is not wholly distinct from his play in Overkill 2, where he initially claimed PGO to decrease the likelihood he would be targeted by town investigative actions, a strategy which reportedly worked (given he won the game in question).

Now, we could consider other tonal behaviors that might make him town. I don't feel particularly objective on the slot right now, given how much directed AtE FL pushed at me specifically. But his movement from hard OMGUSing me to arguing I was "warlocked" is the type of paranoid nonsense that certainly can come from town Flavor Leaf.

At this point I feel like my read on the slot is muddled by the AtE and replacement behavior and my own personal feelings about some things he has said.

[Near x Mello]

i think mastina was maybe right on rp after all

I dont like their absence here

~Near

[Pink Ball]

except he probably does make risky and crazy plays like this, so no. He does think hes great like you said, and thats exactly why he didnt think hed actually be at risk here.

~Near

@pink

What I mean is, he could do a crazy play like this, but thinking it was not risky would be stupid even if your ego don't let you see it.

[Ankamius]

ftr Pink Ball and I are talking about FL in the PT

currently I'm completely unconvinced that FL's mindset in there across the game so far is town-motivated, the progression I'm seeing that would make it a town mindset would require town to be significantly behind, which is bizarre for a gamestate where one scum is already dead and he has a masonry PT like he has already claimed the PT to be.

I guess the neverending competing wagons to Vedith could count as reason to want to take over the PT to have everyone rally behind him, but I don't think that's really enough to justify needing to go as far as he did.

[Chito and Yuuri]

idk, I'm not seeing why this is more likely to come from scum than town. I've had moments almost exactly like that one at least a dozen times in the past as town, and I would kinda expect Gamma to already have an explanation ready or at least to try to pass it off with some made up bs rather than backpedal on it like she did.

Chito: I'll think about it. ftr, Yuuri is still feeling null on Gamma, so this is a one-headed push atm. If you present a better candidate that we both feel more strongly on, I'd be happy to hear you out. Not rushing you though, I know there's still a large part of the game to get through.

Would like to hear your initial gutread on Elena when you get a chance even though I don't particularly want to push there right now, just a slot I'm finding hard to settle on a read for and wouldn't mind a fresh take.

[Ankamius]

idk Chito

there's a giant clusterfuck of role things in the PT and it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if there were ongoing gambits and lying in play.

[Ankamius]

I only have a few reads atm Chito, and all of them are town except for light/moderate-scum FL.

I think this game is going to need a townblock-style approach rather than the CHAINLYNCHWITHFIRE approach

[Near x Mello]

except he probably does make risky and crazy plays like this, so no. He does think hes great like you said, and thats exactly why he didnt think hed actually be at risk here.

~Near

@pink

What I mean is, he could do a crazy play like this, but thinking it was not risky would be stupid even if your ego don't let you see it.

youre saying he thinks hes competent scum
Im telling you that justifies him playing like that even more

~Near

[Elena Fisher]

Robert and Gamma are both good candidates

So you think I'm double bussing?

[Elena Fisher]

As someone who has played with scum mort. The action he's doing can easily be from town or scum him. It's the way that he reacted that you should be reading into. Mort is confident in his skills period.

[Near x Mello]

It's the way that he reacted that you should be reading into.

and your read on that is..?

~Near

[Elena Fisher]

At first I honestly thought he was town due to early game interactions. However, my hood and he handled his replace in/out is making me scumread him. Now I don't think his emotions were fake. No, I think they were very real but he got angry for being caught in the sense of his play given I don't think he expected to be pushed in the way he was.

[Near x Mello]

so i take it you agree with fl/gamma/robert?

~Near

[Elena Fisher]

Correct.

[Near x Mello]

Elena what's your read on Dunn and your read on Pink Ball?

~mello

[Ankamius]

Would like to hear your initial gutread on Elena when you get a chance even though I don't particularly want to push there right now, just a slot I'm finding hard to settle on a read for and wouldn't mind a fresh take.

I kinda feel like she's one of those slots that I will need to sort after I have a rough idea of what the gamestate looks like

[Near x Mello]

i think its actually fl/robert/rp

what are your thoughts on rp? @elena

~Near

[Near x Mello]

Hi, Ankamius

~Mello

[Ankamius]

Hi Kokichi

How are you

[Ankamius]

Mastina can you go into how you reached your PoE when you get a chance?

[Reasonably Psychotic]

/me waves at Ank.

If you could, at what point(in the thread out here) did fl slot start making serious moves to control their pt, and did they ever expess any doubt that it was safe to share role info in there?as a matter of fact, among those who we know were members(Drixx,your slot,fl slot,and joan are all I remember)...who claimed first?

-Yukiteru