Marathon Weekend Open Setup Group

This forum is for discussion related to the game.
Jingle
Ring a Bell?
 
User avatar
Joined: July 18, 2013
Location: Texas
Pronoun: He

Post Post #125  (ISO)  » Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:05 pm

:lol:
"I know there are people in the world who do not love their fellow human beings, and I hate people like that!" - Tom Lehrer

Jingle
Ring a Bell?
 
User avatar
Joined: July 18, 2013
Location: Texas
Pronoun: He

Post Post #126  (ISO)  » Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:24 pm

viewtopic.php?p=10756374#p10756374 - Burden of Proficiency, coming soon to a Micro Queue somewhere else!

viewtopic.php?p=10756293#p10756293 - Panic Room! Come play with us in the non marathon Open Queue soon. Almost as good as the marathon version!
"I know there are people in the world who do not love their fellow human beings, and I hate people like that!" - Tom Lehrer

callforjudgement
Microprocessor
 
User avatar
Joined: September 01, 2011

Post Post #127  (ISO)  » Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:47 pm

In post 123, Jingle wrote:So I'm hearing a prein for a 45p mountainous nightless setup, in marathon, of course.

What numbers on that?

34:11 would be close to 50% EV, but I don't think EV is a useful measure for this. It's really unclear how the numbers should scale as scumteams get bigger, as we have very little evidence about what happens in a game with a very large scumteam; I can believe that 34:11 is anywhere from 99% town winrate in practice to 1% town winrate in practice.

Do it under marathon deadlines, though, and most players will miss most of the posts, so I'd expect scum to have a huge advantage in that they can be fairly brazen without most players noticing.
scum · scam · seam · team · term · tern · torn · town

u r a person 2
Jack of All Trades
 
User avatar
Joined: December 09, 2018

Post Post #128  (ISO)  » Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:52 pm

I propose 44:1

I'll take scum

We can call the game "Where's Waldo?"
103-11 0-2

Jingle
Ring a Bell?
 
User avatar
Joined: July 18, 2013
Location: Texas
Pronoun: He

Post Post #129  (ISO)  » Sat Feb 23, 2019 3:25 pm

Given nightless is usually massively townsided, I'd guess 34:11 is probably close to right.

Make it a Bad at Mafia game and you could probably say 37:8.
"I know there are people in the world who do not love their fellow human beings, and I hate people like that!" - Tom Lehrer

mastina
False Prophet
 
User avatar
Joined: October 08, 2016
Location: Between Snohomish and Monroe, WA
Pronoun: She

Post Post #130  (ISO)  » Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:41 pm

In post 120, Something_Smart wrote:The game lasted 7 game days, 3 hours, and 60 pages... if it had gone to LYLO it could have lasted almost 6 hours.
Hey I've been in marathon games that long before and they were immensely fun.

Time-intensive and I regretted not being able to give my all to at least one game I could've won if I didn't need to leave (which caused the loss), but OH WELL.

the worst
Snuggly Duckling
 
User avatar
Joined: November 07, 2015
Location: pond
Pronoun: He

Post Post #131  (ISO)  » Wed May 08, 2019 3:56 pm

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=79628

Everyone down for round 2?? :) I'll message the victim list shortly!
Once you have 100 posts, click here to go to the page to join the speakeasy group!
Join the Get to Know a Scummer queue now!

OkaPoka
Survivor
 
User avatar
Joined: March 28, 2014
Pronoun: He

Post Post #132  (ISO)  » Wed May 08, 2019 3:58 pm

Grey flag nightless with even more people

the worst
Snuggly Duckling
 
User avatar
Joined: November 07, 2015
Location: pond
Pronoun: He

Post Post #133  (ISO)  » Wed May 08, 2019 4:00 pm

Purple flag nightless - everyone is 2 shot lynchproof
Once you have 100 posts, click here to go to the page to join the speakeasy group!
Join the Get to Know a Scummer queue now!

Invisibility
Mafia Scum
 
User avatar
Joined: April 17, 2018
Pronoun: She

Post Post #134  (ISO)  » Wed May 08, 2019 4:35 pm

yay
"invisibility is actually braindead" -- RadiantCowbells

Something_Smart
Somewhat_Balanced
 
User avatar
Joined: November 17, 2015
Location: Rochester Institute of Technology
Pronoun: He

Post Post #135  (ISO)  » Wed May 08, 2019 4:39 pm

Any ideas on how we can avoid the fiasco that was half mast nightless?

I'm thinking that the best option is to, when you start to take signups for a game, set a player range (like 9-13) and specify exactly what setup will be played at each player count, and then refuse to take signups beyond the maximum.

And, uh, don't run any nightless games with more than like 10 players.
We're all born in the devil's scorn, he wants to see you die
I'm asking you, are you true? Everything they say is a lie, it's a lie...

the worst
Snuggly Duckling
 
User avatar
Joined: November 07, 2015
Location: pond
Pronoun: He

Post Post #136  (ISO)  » Wed May 08, 2019 4:43 pm

I think your suggestion last time was good. Try and cap ~mystery opens~ at 13 players and/or just don't run nightless marathons with more than say 9 people. (I think grey flag nightless lends well to marathons!)

hey it wasn't a fiasco it was amazing
Once you have 100 posts, click here to go to the page to join the speakeasy group!
Join the Get to Know a Scummer queue now!

Jingle
Ring a Bell?
 
User avatar
Joined: July 18, 2013
Location: Texas
Pronoun: He

Post Post #137  (ISO)  » Wed May 08, 2019 4:59 pm

Nightless 40 person mountainous.

Also, I strongly recommend against modding games that require multiple types of VCs.
"I know there are people in the world who do not love their fellow human beings, and I hate people like that!" - Tom Lehrer

Lycanfire
Mafia Scum
 
User avatar
Joined: June 04, 2016
Pronoun: It

Post Post #138  (ISO)  » Wed May 08, 2019 5:01 pm

I thought nsg was running that game

Jingle
Ring a Bell?
 
User avatar
Joined: July 18, 2013
Location: Texas
Pronoun: He

Post Post #139  (ISO)  » Wed May 08, 2019 5:11 pm

p much, yeah. :lol:

I resolved night actions, but she did basically all of the VCs.
"I know there are people in the world who do not love their fellow human beings, and I hate people like that!" - Tom Lehrer

themilkcartonkid
Mafia Scum
 
User avatar
Joined: May 24, 2018
Pronoun: He

Post Post #140  (ISO)  » Wed May 08, 2019 5:23 pm

Is there room for me? Saw a lot of people already signed up

Jingle
Ring a Bell?
 
User avatar
Joined: July 18, 2013
Location: Texas
Pronoun: He

Post Post #141  (ISO)  » Wed May 08, 2019 5:25 pm

There's always room for more. Basically, this is a group where you can request specific opens be run during marathon and sound out interest.

I'll probably run at least something. Not sure what my schedule looks like atm though.
"I know there are people in the world who do not love their fellow human beings, and I hate people like that!" - Tom Lehrer

callforjudgement
Microprocessor
 
User avatar
Joined: September 01, 2011

Post Post #142  (ISO)  » Wed May 08, 2019 6:22 pm

In post 140, themilkcartonkid wrote:Is there room for me? Saw a lot of people already signed up

We need as many as possible, really, the aim's to run untested Opens rapid-fire as fast as we can fill them. The more people, the faster they fill.

About the Nightless discussion, the real problem is probably running a game that runs to too many days. Grey Flag Nightless can't run beyond Day 4, which isn't too bad, but running much longer than that is pushing it because people can't stay online forever.
scum · scam · seam · team · term · tern · torn · town

Fumuki
Mafia Scum
 
User avatar
Joined: April 02, 2018

Post Post #143  (ISO)  » Wed May 08, 2019 6:42 pm

I'll be honest here

what do you guys mean by calling the legendary past marathon nightless a fiasco?

I completely loved it and ~most~ of the players liked it as well. I usually read completed games and I surprisingly found quite a lot of mentions to that marathon nightless game because it was so memorable. I understand that it was frustating though, but I would arguely say the most fun and memorable (we are talking about it even now) marathon game we had in february.

We absolutely need to run that setup again and even mark a specific date for it.

However, of course we can't have every game being as much of a shitshow as that yeah.

We probably need to have a list of various setups in the 9p ~ 15p range and the setup played is the one hit by the amount of signed up players during the signing up interval.

I would find it really unfun and heartbreaking if in the most active hours, that we have the opportunity to play some really cool big setups, we had a capped game and people were left out. Players that show up in X hour, if they need to actually wait for a marathon game to finish first before signing up, they probably won't even stay around and are just going to log out, what makes progressively harder to run the next games.

If we want to test open setups, we probably should make a compilated list of 9p~13p setups we want to run and suggest for them to be run when signing up to games, however we absolutely need to give space for a potential 15p/17p/18p marathon game though because it's rare but a blast when it happens.

the worst
Snuggly Duckling
 
User avatar
Joined: November 07, 2015
Location: pond
Pronoun: He

Post Post #144  (ISO)  » Wed May 08, 2019 7:23 pm

I'd be very interested in running another big marathon game; I'd just like to be a bit clearer about the fact we wanna run a BIG marathon game upfront and make sure folks know what they're in for. Also as cfj mentioned up there... it needs to have some kind of projection around how many days it's going to run. Vigilantes and scum nightkills are probably extremely wise for massive marathon games.
Once you have 100 posts, click here to go to the page to join the speakeasy group!
Join the Get to Know a Scummer queue now!

Jingle
Ring a Bell?
 
User avatar
Joined: July 18, 2013
Location: Texas
Pronoun: He

Post Post #145  (ISO)  » Wed May 08, 2019 7:30 pm

Most of the April Challenge thread is good fodder for fast Large setups.
"I know there are people in the world who do not love their fellow human beings, and I hate people like that!" - Tom Lehrer

Jingle
Ring a Bell?
 
User avatar
Joined: July 18, 2013
Location: Texas
Pronoun: He

Post Post #146  (ISO)  » Wed May 08, 2019 7:31 pm

To clarify, I'd be willing to run most of the April Challenge thread as Marathons if there was sufficient interest.
"I know there are people in the world who do not love their fellow human beings, and I hate people like that!" - Tom Lehrer

the worst
Snuggly Duckling
 
User avatar
Joined: November 07, 2015
Location: pond
Pronoun: He

Post Post #147  (ISO)  » Wed May 08, 2019 7:46 pm

Excellent thanks. :)

Part of my evil plan to set up for this one is to prowl through the monthly challenges I've missed and cherrypick the more marathon friendly ones
Once you have 100 posts, click here to go to the page to join the speakeasy group!
Join the Get to Know a Scummer queue now!

Irrelephant11
Jack of All Trades
 
User avatar
Joined: April 09, 2018
Location: They hadn't become unseeing and unfeeling
Pronoun: He

Post Post #148  (ISO)  » Wed May 08, 2019 7:46 pm

I would like to try playing my Romeo, Romeo if someone has interest modding (12p nightless, but most lynches kill two slots)
Some of the March Challenge setups are good for small playerlists too
Hey all! Excited and nervous to play my first game with you!

You should check out Monthly Setup Challenges!

the worst
Snuggly Duckling
 
User avatar
Joined: November 07, 2015
Location: pond
Pronoun: He

Post Post #149  (ISO)  » Wed May 08, 2019 7:58 pm

Sounds great, I'll hunt that down pronto.
If you have any links feel free to throw them in posts here too, I'll add any suggestions to the op :D
Once you have 100 posts, click here to go to the page to join the speakeasy group!
Join the Get to Know a Scummer queue now!

PreviousNext
[ + ]

Return to Mafia Discussion