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Post Post #9550 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:36 pm

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In post 9545, Thanos wrote: D3 they were all up for lynching TLK, but when town wanted Smart to hammer they flail-attacked Dave and tried to shift a lynch towards that at the end.
Also in D4 they were heavily arguing for an EJ lynch.
You see them doing all this as town? Towncase their recent day play?
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Post Post #9551 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:37 pm

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for clarification, they retracted the expected doc claim on PP to say they holstered and were gunna doc PP the next night. Logically that was attempt to make scum shoot not PP the next night. Why have PP doc claim if you know PP gonna die? Why kill PP if you claim youre gonna doc him? Seems bad, seems not scum.
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Post Post #9552 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:40 pm

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In post 9548, Thanos wrote:
In post 9544, Jingle wrote:given retraction was before the una claim I"m leaning NAI.
No, retraction was after Una claimed he's not Vanilla.

Still trying to think of any specific scum motivation, but I think he did it just to legitimize his claim if he sussed Una was Vanilla based on other reasons. But I don't know why scum would make that guess, so I'm prolly wrong about this.
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In post 9541, Jingle wrote:
In post 9532, Thanos wrote:What's the case on EJ?
EJ been lolcatting the whole game. No one, least of all EJ, should be surprised if we flip him. Hell, if I hadn't repped in being the saviour of the 3p and the downtrodden I am we'd probably have flipped him instead of SS.

I'm all generous and shit like that.
But who'll be Public enemy number one if I die? For town AND scum?
Probs me if you flip scum, which is the unfortunate side effect of putting yourself out there for people you think might be town. If you flip town? Dunno, but peeps prolly not gonna recognize it means me town.

I'm going to ignore your input, but who should I give my shot to? I'm not gonna use it.
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Post Post #9553 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:41 pm

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In post 9550, Thanos wrote:You see them doing all this as town? Towncase their recent day play?
9551 was before I saw this, JIC that matters.
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Post Post #9554 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:46 pm

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In post 9551, Jingle wrote:for clarification, they retracted the expected doc claim on PP to say they holstered and were gunna doc PP the next night. Logically that was attempt to make scum shoot not PP the next night. Why have PP doc claim if you know PP gonna die? Why kill PP if you claim youre gonna doc him? Seems bad, seems not scum.
I think I'm not understanding ya here.

Kill PP because loyal PP was sending fruit to one of you, N&M and Xtoxm. Why is that a bad move if one of you is scum?
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Post Post #9555 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:49 pm

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Oh, yea, I didn't froot. Probs shoulda claimed earlier, forgot to. Or rather I was mobile and that's too much effort.
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Post Post #9556 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:51 pm

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In post 9554, Thanos wrote:Kill PP because loyal PP was sending fruit to one of you, N&M and Xtoxm. Why is that a bad move if one of you is scum?
Not killing PP is bad move. Claiming to be doccing PP on night when you have presumable excuse of missing shot is bad move.

I expect N&M is playing on arbitrarily named level 3. They would need to expect someone to be playing on arbitrarily named level 4 to claim what they did. Weal read cause wrong if they're playing on arbitrarily named level 1 or arbitrarily named level 5. Kinda doubt it tho.
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Post Post #9557 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:52 pm

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Xtoxm already claimed he got it, and while it doesn't confirm him it makes him likely town. If he was scum and one of you three was town, there's a chance you might have correctly claimed to have gotten it; so as scum bluffing he's risking a 1v1.

Treat Xtoxm as probtown now.

Pedit: I agree not killing PP is a bad move, but they did do that. Can you quote the posts where they claimed to doc him and retracted it?
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Post Post #9558 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:54 pm

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Hey Thanos, do a snap and list the 5 possible scum that'd be evaporated.

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Post Post #9559 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:57 pm

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In post 9294, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 9291, PenguinPower wrote:No. Dave needs to have an opportunity to claim results.

Also, I'm likely dead tonight so...I'm going to decide if I want to say anything else and we can do this tomorrow.

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Jingle has posted a few times. Thanos hasn't.
No you won't.
In post 9303, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 9298, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 9294, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 9291, PenguinPower wrote:No. Dave needs to have an opportunity to claim results.

Also, I'm likely dead tonight so...I'm going to decide if I want to say anything else and we can do this tomorrow.

p-edit

Jingle has posted a few times. Thanos hasn't.
No you won't.
No I won't what?
Be dead. At least not necessarily. We have slots that could die before yours. And we had a hunch that the kill was going to have to down with us on some level so we decided to holster since drew told us to go on you, but you are scum reading us. Scum wouldn't take you out because you're doing their job for them. Creature was set to clear us, and we could use our save on him because of him being ascetic.

So we saved our shot and if you can get more charges we can use you still.
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Post Post #9560 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:59 pm

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I thought there were three remaining.

I'm kinda lost, thinking I shouldn't have signed up for a game this large. I hard townread DrewVa and decided I'd just sheep them, but then scum shot them :( so I'm motivated more now instead of replace out.

Nothing solid yet except I feel N&M is scum.
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Post Post #9561 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:00 pm

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In post 9557, Thanos wrote:Xtoxm already claimed he got it, and while it doesn't confirm him it makes him likely town. If he was scum and one of you three was town, there's a chance you might have correctly claimed to have gotten it; so as scum bluffing he's risking a 1v1.

Treat Xtoxm as probtown now.

Pedit: I agree not killing PP is a bad move, but they did do that. Can you quote the posts where they claimed to doc him and retracted it?
Unless scum tracker X prob town, yeah. Pretty sure I already said that.
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Post Post #9562 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:01 pm

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In post 9560, Thanos wrote:I'm kinda lost, thinking I shouldn't have signed up for a game this large. I hard townread DrewVa and decided I'd just sheep them, but then scum shot them so I'm motivated more now instead of replace out.
It's a mini now. start from scratch, using mechanical shit to narrow down.
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Post Post #9563 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:04 pm

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In post 9562, Jingle wrote:It's a mini now. start from scratch, using mechanical shit to narrow down.
Yeah I'll put in a lot more effort going on :D
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Post Post #9564 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:29 pm

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Emperor flippyNips
: -
Alonzo, DrewVa, Xtoxm, Cheeky Dancer

The Last Knight
[3]: -
Karmeleon
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Emperors New Groove
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Ramcius

UnaSlot[3]: -
Almost Chara
, Elsa Jay,
The Last Knight

JingleSlot[2]: - davesaz,
Thanos

Xtoxm [2]: -
Mcqueen
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Something_Smart

DrewVa (Nancy Drew 39/DVa)
[2]: - JingleSlot,
BrightEyedFish

Ramcius
[2]: - Gamma Emerald, Nero Cain
Profii [1]: - RCEnigma
BrightEyedFish [1]: - Nev and max
RCEnigma [1]: - UnaSlot
Elsa Jay [1]: - Profii


D1 VC for reference.
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Post Post #9565 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:29 pm

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Accidentally greened Xtoxm but whatever.
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Post Post #9566 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:55 pm

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Currently alive: Thanos, Jingle, Profii, Davesaz, UnaBombah, Elsa Jay, Gamma Emerald, Xtoxm, Nev and Max, RCEnigma, Nero Cain. 11 in total. 3 being scum.

Taking out myself in the equation, I'll rank the remaining 10 from most townie at the top and most scummy at the bottom.

Jingle (I gave Charge Transfer)
Nero (Sounds awesome and townie)
Dave (fruit from Penguin confirmed by penguin)
Xtoxm (claims fruit from loyal Penguin)
Thanos (Seems townie)
Una (gave me weak)
RCEnigma (helped me shit on BEF)
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Nev (... No comment)
Gamma (keep trying to remember contributions)
Profii. (Icky)

I agree completely that Profii's gotta go. Hell, I argued early on his role was most likely for scum but got shut down and I forgot about it. But Nev and Gamma both claim protectives and that gives me pause.

RC I thought was town with how he shut down Fish in the Bonus room with me, but with the knowledge of Fish flipping, that makes that way harder to justify.

So currently if we take Xtoxm's word and the fruit isnt a scum gambit: Dave and Xtoxm are confirmed town. Nero and Jingle appear the most townie. Thanos is also getting pretty townie.

Scumread within Gamma, Nev, Profii, Una(?), and RCE.
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Post Post #9567 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:31 pm

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In post 9529, Elsa Jay wrote:
profii wrote: So it's Jingle + Elsa + ? for me.
In post 9525, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 9499, Elsa Jay wrote:So I guess Nev is legitimately the only Town Protective in this basically role madness. Sigh.
You're looking more and more like scum the more people flip green .
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Post Post #9568 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:33 pm

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In post 9531, Thanos wrote:
In post 9528, profii wrote:DrewVa was strongly advocating me as a big town read of theirs, so if I am scum, why do i kill them when Bef is going to get mislynched anyway - i'll let someone else make sense of that.
BEF ML guarantees you get lynched, DrewVa would've certainly not hesitated to Lynch you once BEF flipped.

As to why they were shot - the usual? They were townread widely, also solving the game.
Why though? I am really really certain TLK said the wrong thing on purpose and that is what my entire lynch will be based on - scum are just taking advantage
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Post Post #9569 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:35 pm

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Oh, so I should have listened to Scum telling me to kill myself, Profii? (In game context for the win).

Really though, if BOTH scum lied about voting last and second last, that'd just be stupid. I just like living anyway and he was so obvious he wasnt voting it hurt.
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Post Post #9570 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:37 pm

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In post 9533, Thanos wrote:
In post 9528, profii wrote:the actual thing going on is PP said he was going to target 1 of 3, one of whom was scum, so PP had to die in case he did target the scum in the 3 -> Jingle
Why not N&M? You're town on them because they're the only claimed protective so far?
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In post 9528, profii wrote:blah blah blah blah blah
I'm gonna read this on some other day when I'm less drunk. But you're still prbscum.
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Post Post #9571 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:45 pm

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In post 9569, Elsa Jay wrote:Oh, so I should have listened to Scum telling me to kill myself, Profii? (In game context for the win).

Really though, if BOTH scum lied about voting last and second last, that'd just be stupid. I just like living anyway and he was so obvious he wasnt voting it hurt.
I said at the time that scum were never gonna fall in line because that means

Lynch 1 Town + 1S
NK = 1 T

= a 2 for 1

S_S must of had a reason to put his hand up because he obviously sacrificed himself for something but the benefit is slightly more Town death

Lynch 1T + 1T
NK = 1T
Lynch 1S (S_S)
NK = 1T

Is a 4 for 1 which is better (not accounting for I think the failed NK - this just highlights the lie bought more Town death)


There is nothing to say you lied about your vote too because we caught 2 scum in 1day - why we never followed up and lynched you sooner god only knows
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Post Post #9572 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:00 pm

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I lost a fair bit of interest in this game but, here goes.

I think Elsa jumped up a fair bit in my list based on the boonus round, sure it could have been an act to play me but she seemed to genuinely believe Bef was scum as did I with the dayvig.

Profii has to flip at this point so eh. Still think he could be town.

Jingle probably isn't scum, I'll trust drewva on this read. For now.

Xtoxm just town. Dave town.

Don't remember what made Thanos mechanically town, I missed that class.

Una being upfront with his claim and theta sorting duck before that looks town with my screwed claim.

Who does that leave? Gamma, Nero, nev?

Gamma and Nero voting together as scum would have been the only pair to do so day 1?

Also Profii and Elsa were both present eod day 1 while no one else at the bottom of that votecount was around. 4 votes doesn't seem like enough to push a Lynch through but is probably worth trying for so it's interesting why Profii is solo voting Elsa EoD and scum isn't countering the flippy wagon at all.
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Post Post #9573 (ISO) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:02 am

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This game with the last 2-4 flips we got makes no sense to me unless someone who is "controlling" the game is scum.
So lynch Jingle and never hear the end of it post-game? :lol:
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Post Post #9574 (ISO) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:04 am

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If I had ANY motivation in me, I'd check how we ever got sidetracked from lynching Elsa (way back then), or N&M (not sure when).
There's likely something there.
Also, as stupid as it is, Elsa should just be scum at this point.
Which would actually fit with scum!Jingle considering how they were spewing something like "mechanically not correct lynch" on them. :yawn:
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