Merchant's Daughter [Endgame]

[Vedith]

Okay I've made no attempts this game at all.

[Vedith]

I'm just going to wait until the PT. Let me post what I have to say there then react stay/leave as needed.

[Vedith]

I can't see all 5 going through without pairing.

[Vedith]

Actually, I changed my mind. I want to pair with Urist.

What changed it?

[Vedith]

Gamma doesn't say connected.

[Vedith]

So I was trying to discuss reads and other things with Fire. Although I was distracted half way through Fire stopped responding when I was talking about reads and asking questions / making suggestions.
I'm not sure why Town!Fire does this unless he was really busy in life of course.

[Vedith]

Gamma doesn't say connected.

Krazy and Vedith also share a tier which I feel is a sign I might be onto something.

I guess I read that differently to you.

[Vedith]

You're saying Fire didn't use your PT for shitposting at all?

None at all.
Asked me why on a read and disagreed with 2 of my reads but other than that nothing from fire.

[Vedith]

it's time

What do you want first?

[Vedith]

Dannflor

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Nancy Drew 39

Moment

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TheBrie

or

DoubtingThomas

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Something_Smart

PvtUrist (green now)

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Gamma Emerald

Dr Worm

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Pink Ball

or

Krazy

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Taly

[Vedith]

Why are me and Dann in red?

I think both of you are Scum or have high chance of flipping Scum.
I was trying to show what pair I would be confident in lynching and what pair id rather walk out than have lynch (when L1 is close For tells).

But my concern during the night is that RC had you as town and I think I should give more credit to that read as I don't have the meta with you personally.
With RC confirmed it does alter my judgement but these were my views before day 2 started

[Vedith]

But why were you scumreading either of us, prior to that?

Well I felt you were buddying up to me earlier in the game. I also thought your posts of reads or information were forced.
Dann spent all game agreeing with the louder players, pushing the quieter or more targeted players and looked to try and hide under the radar.

You should worry less to why I have/had (I'm not sure yet) you as Scum and why I should read someone else as Scum.

[Vedith]

Fair enough.
So you town read Moment?

[Vedith]

Worm I'm not going to pretend to read. Given their play is set in character they won't change for me.
PB I like for town. Nothing seems forced at all.

[Vedith]

This is curious indeed, I'd expect a little from him at least. Dis he say why he wasn't shitposting, Vedith?

Fire said the same in the PT as in here. Both today I believe

[Vedith]

Would like to see some explanations here

I'm on phone right now.
If it helps I had RC and Ank both as town. So having 6 town reads ending day 1 is actually a lot for me regardless of posts made.
The amount if posts in a game means nothing without flips

[Vedith]

I'm confident "their content doesn't feel forced" as a reason to townread someone should apply to more than just PB here.

Also it should, if I had the same for other players.

[Vedith]

I'm only making the point that in 5000 posts, you should have a better idea on whose town - if you're reading based strongly off the principle of "their reads are genuine and they don't look forced" - as you state for PB here

Why should I?
It's 5000 posts of the same shit overall. Who's dancing with all, who's Scum/town and who has what coins (removing additional game mechanics).
I have no actual voting patterns, no deaths other than Allo at that point. So no, don't tell me I should have a better idea on who's town.
Theres more to PB but I'm phone posting so I'm not going into detail yet. The same I did with Dann and Nancy.
I don't overly go into town reads because I'm more concerned about who's Scum rather than who's town.

[Vedith]

We can disagree here.

I just don't see you doing much to sort out your multiple "null-reads" or doing anything to push your "scumreads" and yet you've posted a good bit more since Second Dance started versus the majority of Pre-Dance.

I'll be waiting for your full reply to my thoughts over your readslist.

It's not disagreeing. You are telling me how I should play and I'm telling you no.

I'm not doing much to sort them? I've come back in and discussed as I said I would. The threat opened again today. Why are you in a rush for me to sort and push these reads in 12 hours?
Because I'm not bolding a name a name and saying that someone isn't playing how I like them to doesn't mean I'm not thinking over and sorting by myself. My main focus was to get a read on Fire via PT but that hasn't happened and I have a theory to why (resulting as Fire scum).
The read list I gave was a pre day 2.
And there was nothing else for me to go by with Pre dance. Why would I continue to clog the thread up with pointless shit like everyone else was?

I look forward to you waiting. I will do it but trust me when i say this, you low key trying to intimidate me into providing it in detail is not why I will

[Vedith]

lol I'm trying to intimidate you all of a sudden? @Vedith

I don't vibe or understand the thought process behind your reads, and with the points I've made about your readslist in my post (4390 or 4391?) - it reads as very coincidental and easy-to-make given the gamestate.

Well, I'm here for when you want to actually put forth some thoughts. *thumbsup*

"Lol oh no I wasn't"
Cool.

No, your point was I should have more sorted players because there are 5000 post. Which is a moronic way to see it. 50 posts, 5000 posts I read people how I read them.
Did you have concern about my Dann or Nancy short and unexplained reads? No.
Yet that was never the point of concern here.
So it's not about my reads not having an understanding , its just down to me reading that slot as town.

[Vedith]

your multiple "null-reads"

Also can you explain this part a bit more?

[Vedith]

What were all the yellow and orange color markings for your read then? Did I miss something?

Krazy is my only null outside of Work (who I'm not counting).
I was wondering if you meant that but since when do null get multiple colours on reads.

And what do you mean you're waiting for my response?
I answered and said I will but I'm on phone. Are you not reading what I'm putting?
Or was there a particular part you want me to answer before?

[Vedith]

Nancy who should I vote?

[Vedith]

I think this is Scum Fire.
I walk in 3 hours in that case. I'm controlling how it goes between us and I already said to you that the PT was for you to impress me as much as it is for me to impress you.

[Vedith]

Town Fire would have left there.
I'm 100% happy for us to be the ones going today.

But everyone is to drop read lists before I walk. Take it as a Scum claim if I do not walk

[Vedith]

Assuming you mean Worm here and that somehow you got phone autocorrected

Correct.

[Vedith]

I'm sorry Fire. Too late!
You know you always have a place in my heart but you rolled Scum. And it pains me to see you in pain.

[Vedith]

I'm going out! I'm drinking a shandy top and then I'm coming home reckless!
I want all reads in following posts from all players

[Vedith]

I see more than 3 colors here. You didn't label or specify what each color meant.

Common sense would suggest that orange isn't null like yellow though.
Im sure you have been in enough games where people use the term town lean and Scum lean.

1) So what does orange and yellow mean in terms of your read? Dr. W is the same color as Krazy, so is he null too?
2) I don't follow your townread on me because a big portion of the stated reason behind it in this game is on meta, and we haven't played before.
3) Nancy/Dann are scum for you I'm guessing since they're red? But you're not pushing that? Nor the DT/TheBrie scumread?

1 - I already stated this
2 - when do I say because of meta? Why are you making up reasons here?
3 - I've already said about this.
I am unsure to why you are acting dumb in this situation?

I also don't follow because the last time you gave reads - Nancy was at the top. 489. I know this was awhile ago, but you gave no indication on how this changed... aside from maybe RC/Ank's NK?

Given that I requested Nancy dances with Krazy or Dann would be the indication that my opinion changed? I also said that my reads had changed more than once pre dance.
I didn't even have any other content during this point how did you miss It?

Fire isn't in your readslist either, so I can't evaluate how your pair has communicated outside of that you both are (jokingly?) wanting to suicide.

This is no joke. I had him as null but now Scum.

Also this, why ask Nancy for where she wants you to vote when you're not townreading them?

Again you are refusing to read what I am saying and I feel its intentional.
I have made it clear this was pre dance reads and that I am unsure on Nancy now.
However, if I think Scum I want to discuss with her opinions to learn the motives and see if I'm wrong.
People who don't interact with their Scum reads aren't trying to sort Scum in my opinion.
And I proved I do this with my interaction with Ank when I Scum read her.

Im not sure what this matters because I'm leaving the dance shortly.

Nice one trying to twist everything I said though and ignoring the main comments I'm making.

[Vedith]

@Vedith

Overall I think we're onto some sort of same page. just I'm left handed and you're right handed.

[Vedith]

Okay, Vedith, Gamma, why is Worm scum?

Again, worm is null.
I didn't say we have the exact reads. But Worm should be considered a lynch to anyone not town reading PB because worm is playing in character and character only.

[Vedith]

I just got in and going to write my post.
Anything people want to add?

[Vedith]

More that I'm not looking at Gammas reads and want to hit my head against a wall.
I have PvT and Taly in the same spot, I just think Taly is just trying to play and get under my skin.

You have moved up more in my books from RCs read and from what Fire said in the PT.

Moment doesn't appeal to me as town at all and given that I think Brie has a high chance of Scum, I'd probably suggest lynching here sooner than later.

The only names I would move higher or lower by 2 Tier+ is Dann/PB/Fire and obviously Worm to null.

Other than that all the reads are within 1 Tier of what I think.
Gamma is also high town for me right now.

[Vedith]

The dance gets underway, the beat is low and everyone looks nervous to engage in the first official dance.
I look up at Fire in that stunning mankini as my jaw drops. I decide to walk towards this Angel.
Ounts ounts ounts ounts the beat flickers between each footstep taken until I reach my destination.

"Would you care to dance, ma lady?"
Fire let's out a roaring giggle the echos past the music.
I try to swallow the embarrassment away.
"Is that a yes?"
Fire takes my hand dragging me to the dance floor.
Ounts ounts ounts ounts the strobe light flinging past my eyes with each flash showing Fire exploring a different dance move.
"You're pretty good at dancing, and cute" I shout over the overwhelming music, as the music lowers. My voice echos over the now busy dance hall to a silent crowd.
Brie and Dann laugh at my humiliating comment as my face goes red.
I catch a few of my friends giving Brie and Dann the stink eye after seeing their outrageous reaction.
I turn to Gamma, PvT, PB and Taly and thank them for being great friends.

The next song begins, it's a slow one. This is my shot to show off my slow dance moves.
After receiving enough grief, I remember that I'm dancing with the best looking lady at the dance.
I swing my head back to Fire to expect open arms ready.
I see Fire talking to a tall, handsom, bad boy looking rogue as I reluctantly make my way over.
"F-Fire?" I stand my ground "Would you like to dance to this song?"
Fire laughs hysterically while putting her arms around this, this thug! I let out a painful scream, my eyes showing a demand on why.
"I don't dance with losers! And I already saw the cool kids laughing at you" Fire explained while brushing me off again.

My heart received a sharp pain as if a candle was being held against it. I can't believe that because of these horrible people, Brie and Dann I'm now dateless and left looking like a total reject.

I start to cry. "This was going to be my year!" I sob.

I'm not standing for this! I brush past my friends and run out of the dance hall.
As I leave, Moment and DT fist bump as if a job well done.

And all of this while Dr Worm break dances in the middle of the floor as if no one is watching.

Leave the dance

[Vedith]

It's all good Taly, sometimes it just gets like that in games no need to apologies. Overall I totally understand the suspicion on my slot.
I'm really hoping you're town as I think you are strongly town.

All the players in this game are beautiful and i wish you all luck and fun. \o/

[Vedith]

lol i got vedith to leave a townie.

WINNING!

I don't know if this is you bragging I'm wrong or confirming Scum :p

[Vedith]

bragging that u got me wrong son.

If that's the case, one day I'll get it right.

[Vedith]

unless u did the unexpected scum move of leaving the dance like i have done.

then u have :surprised Pikachu: me

No I'm not that ballsy

[Vedith]

Thanks Fakegod really fun game. I always love this style of game.
Well done Scum on the win \o/

I still danced with the prettiest lady, so who's the real winner here?

[Vedith]

Scum can't solo lynch even with 8 coins, since the cutoff is 9 to lynch. I don't really think the scum strategy of yolo hammering town in dance 1 is a good strategy

Exactly this.

[Vedith]

No PB, you're the best \o/

[Vedith]

What was the original offence? I didn't read it.

[Vedith]

If it helps Nancy, I believe you. \o/
And if you didn't mention it I would never have known, so I take that as a positive win win between us.