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Post Post #3200 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:47 am

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In post 3198, Near x Mello wrote:
In post 3196, Reasonably Psychotic wrote:almost nobody actually concluded that Toog was probtown
speak for yourself

how many times did i say toog is town?

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Wisdom, you should know by now that I ignore the conclusions arrived at by people who don't give reasons for those conclusions, OTHER than to push them to give me the reason for their conclusion.

Regardless. Small % of total game was like "OH YEAH THEY MUST BE TOWN BECAUSE OF THAT!"; large % of the total game is town; therefore, town DEFINITELY did not all arrive at that conclusion; so, how does SN plan to differentiate?

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Post Post #3201 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:49 am

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sn focusing on Toog is moot, i agree

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Post Post #3202 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:51 am

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In post 3201, Near x Mello wrote:sn focusing on Toog is moot, i agree

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I actually think it might be town indicative.

Their drive has just enough of an "eager townie chasing his own tail" vibe to it.

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Post Post #3203 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:52 am

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more than anything else sn; youre arguing town wouldn't target toog because that looks stupid to do.

Given that town do stupid things all the time, its silly to make that assumption and use it as basis for anything

Town won't play like youd want them to.

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Post Post #3204 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:53 am

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In post 3201, Near x Mello wrote:sn focusing on Toog is moot, i agree

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I am not focusing on Toog. I’m focusing on the circumstances surrounding his death.
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Post Post #3205 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:53 am

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thats what i meant

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Post Post #3206 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:56 am

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In post 3203, Near x Mello wrote:more than anything else sn; youre arguing town wouldn't target toog because that looks stupid to do.

Given that town do stupid things all the time, its silly to make that assumption and use it as basis for anything

Town won't play like youd want them to.

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Oof. Your counter-argument is that town is stupid? I just perused through Mastina’s ISO who was apparently a leading proponent of targeting him at night. Mastina is clearly not at all stupid...Mastina has been one of the biggest and most detailed contributors to this game. It cannot both be true that Mastina is stupid and that your angle here is legitimate.
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Post Post #3207 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:58 am

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you misunderstand. People arent stupid, they just do stupid stuff because they think they're smart and theyve solved everything

Their actions are stupid, not themselves

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Post Post #3208 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:59 am

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In post 3206, SuperfluousNinja wrote:
In post 3203, Near x Mello wrote:more than anything else sn; youre arguing town wouldn't target toog because that looks stupid to do.

Given that town do stupid things all the time, its silly to make that assumption and use it as basis for anything

Town won't play like youd want them to.

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Oof. Your counter-argument is that town is stupid? I just perused through Mastina’s ISO who was apparently a leading proponent of targeting him at night. Mastina is clearly not at all stupid...Mastina has been one of the biggest and most detailed contributors to this game. It cannot both be true that Mastina is stupid and that your angle here is legitimate.
Town is stupid. Period.

I don't think anyone would argue that town, as a whole, is not stupid.

Individuals can be intelligent, and they can also be wrong.

Mastina is, yes, an individual who I would question in this regard because I expect better from her, but I do also have reasons(expressed in this thread for you to read whenever you get to that part of the game) to believe she's town.

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Post Post #3209 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:59 am

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In post 3202, Reasonably Psychotic wrote:
In post 3201, Near x Mello wrote:sn focusing on Toog is moot, i agree

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I actually think it might be town indicative.

Their drive has just enough of an "eager townie chasing his own tail" vibe to it.

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Post Post #3210 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:01 am

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In post 3207, Near x Mello wrote:you misunderstand. People arent stupid, they just do stupid stuff because they think they're smart and theyve solved everything

Their actions are stupid, not themselves

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But isn't that what you're doing, mostly?

And then when the people you're tunneling flip town, you don't say 'Oh, I was wrong, I am re-evaluating'. Instead, you cling to your beliefs no matter what, and when you lose because of it, you handwave it away, saying something like 'I don't mind losing as long as Player X was lynched'
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Post Post #3211 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:03 am

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In post 3210, Joan of Arc wrote:
In post 3207, Near x Mello wrote:you misunderstand. People arent stupid, they just do stupid stuff because they think they're smart and theyve solved everything

Their actions are stupid, not themselves

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But isn't that what you're doing, mostly?

And then when the people you're tunneling flip town, you don't say 'Oh, I was wrong, I am re-evaluating'. Instead, you cling to your beliefs no matter what, and when you lose because of it, you handwave it away, saying something like 'I don't mind losing as long as Player X was lynched'
Joan, did you expect to have no vote today? Is this a result of your role, or someone else's actions?

Mastina: Same question, but about your loved modifier.

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Post Post #3212 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:05 am

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Must be nice to think you're smarter than all of us combined and that we should sheep you, no questions asked.

p-edit: Yes, I did that. Because my other ability activates if I do that.
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Post Post #3213 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:06 am

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In post 3207, Near x Mello wrote:you misunderstand. People arent stupid, they just do stupid stuff because they think they're smart and theyve solved everything

Their actions are stupid, not themselves

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This is not at all a convincing argument.

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Post Post #3214 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:09 am

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So, singletonking was in the channel Torque and I did; the reason he died is that he targeted Severa, and per singleton's PM, that means Severa's death killed singleton.
I among others targeted Toogeloo, explaining that death.

That doesn't explain how BOTH Ankamius AND Severa died last night, tho.

Neither of them had an ability which would kill themselves as far as I can tell.

Ankamius is probably the scum factional kill, Severa probably a vig-kill, but I wouldn't call the vig inherently scum or town so don't write it off as being town yet also don't auto-lynch it; depends on the player claiming it or if it goes claimed at all.

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In post 3149, Tatsuya Kaname wrote:
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mastina becomes Loved!

Until the end of Day 3, mastina requires one more vote to be lynched!
This was not from any action of mine; I didn't do this. I don't know who did it, either, since nobody in my neighborhood has yet claimed responsibility for it.
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Post Post #3215 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:16 am

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In post 3213, SuperfluousNinja wrote:
In post 3207, Near x Mello wrote:you misunderstand. People arent stupid, they just do stupid stuff because they think they're smart and theyve solved everything

Their actions are stupid, not themselves

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This is not at all a convincing argument.


VOTE: Near x Mello
convincing or not thats the truth

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Post Post #3216 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:17 am

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In post 3153, Reasonably Psychotic wrote:@mastina: reevaluate?
Ankamius was always the scum nightkill here, regardless; she was immensely obvtown, she's incredibly logical, and was also fairly influential; there isn't a single player here who was going to be more nightkillable. It's hard to really sheep her, though, because her stances pre-RC-coming-in were incomplete and most of her work post-RC-coming-in was largely sheeping him.

I can try, but her surviving neighborhood members would be better suited to the task--except, Joan's out of the thread right now. If I recall correctly, Pink Ball's a member there, so maybe he can communicate what Ankamius's full thoughts were?

RC had reason to die coming from both alignments; there are town reasons he'd be dead and scum reasons he'd be dead. Without having a gauge of which caused his death, it's impossible to really tell where he was right and where he wasn't. Most of his reads relied on Spike/Jet being scum when they weren't. Even among those that didn't, Toogeloo was a scumread of his that flipped town. I can take a look, there, but I'm not sure what to really get from it.

I want to trust them, in other words, but I don't trust my ability to trust them, if that makes sense; if I try, I'm more likely to be spitting in the face of their reads than honoring their reads.
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Post Post #3217 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:19 am

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I am still in that thread, and still able to post both there and in the main thread, though.
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Post Post #3218 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:19 am

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In post 3158, SuperfluousNinja wrote:Ok so anyway, let me give you more of an actual introduction....

The only player I know here is Almost50 who I played with a few months ago. Otherwise the rest of you probably don’t know me and I don’t know you. Personally I don’t view this as a problem because I give 0 shits about meta and any meta-analysis. My reads are always entirely based on the situation and the motivations behind them. In fact it always amuses me to no end when people freely hand out playbooks to the scum team when they openly discuss “behavior X is towny of him and behavior Y is scummy”. So don’t count on me participating in any meta analysis here.

I have a few gut reactions but keep in mind that I didn’t officially inherit this role until late-ish last night and have only had about 2 hours to read up on over 3000 posts. My reads will come eventually. It does also help simply to get involved so I’m hoping to poke my head in a lot during these first few real-life days to get a better sense of you all.

Finally, anime is just an excuse for adults to keep watching cartoons and I don’t know a damn thing about anime. Shoot me.
Alright as if there were really any question...

VOTE: SuperfluousNinja.
Robert was playing in a way which loosely suggested he was scum, and the flake reeked of being an apathetic scum flakeout.
ooba's utter in-and-out without so much of a word of analysis reeked of being an apathetic scum flakeout.
And this entrance is a scum entrance.
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Post Post #3219 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:19 am

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mastina youve been wrong on both toog and fl. Is it time to apply bop yet?

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Post Post #3220 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:21 am

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In post 3170, Reasonably Psychotic wrote:Interesting that the first vote placed by someone who claims to have no idea about the game state is on a slot that has a decent chance of being the alternative to their own wagon.
Yes indeed.
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Post Post #3221 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:22 am

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that statement by rp was awful. SN has barely been here to know which wagon is likely to go through

Seeing you agree is more awful

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Post Post #3222 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:23 am

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Mastina, I think you misunderstood my reevaluate comment.

I was noting what NxM is, that part of your PoE pool has been established as town, and asking if you were going to reevaluate said pool/what changes you were making.

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Post Post #3223 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:24 am

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In post 3221, Near x Mello wrote:that statement by rp was awful. SN has barely been here to know which wagon is likely to go through

Seeing you agree is more awful

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Post Post #3224 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:25 am

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how does a mastina/rp/elena team sound, guys?

Mastina pushes rp but forgets about it and starts tunneling town, and keeps elena as a townread for bs reasons. Elena and rp already made sense as buddies. I like it.

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