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Post Post #925 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:11 am

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thanks for letting us know that your team has a strongman.
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Post Post #926 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:12 am

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In post 923, BuJaber wrote:
In post 921, RCEnigma wrote:So damned if I do damned if I don't basically?

Damned if you refuse to acknowledge our argument.

You're making it sound like your read on joges mattered when it didn't.
Again it wasn't about my read on Joges at all. But my issue is that Nero framed it that way and then it was run with like some holy gospel.

It would take me flipping in addition to Vedith's flip for people to go "oh we were poking at nothing and that's what it turned out to be, weird."
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Post Post #927 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:13 am

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In post 925, Nero Cain wrote:thanks for letting us know that your team has a strongman.
Stop talking. Jesus Christ.
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Post Post #928 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:13 am

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but its so funny to mess with you.
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Post Post #929 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:14 am

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Clearly it wasn't taken as gospel if only nero and I seemed to care
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Post Post #930 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:15 am

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In post 919, BuJaber wrote:
In post 910, Nero Cain wrote:What's my motivation here?
Shading people on the wagon while dispelling any TMI tell against you?

You don't see that that's a possible scum move?
Exactly how does me mistakenly reading someone as town and then noticing that there was no evidence to support my position shade anyone? I've heard that the key to successfully arguing is to never admit fault but I like to keep things honest. I could theoretically scum read someone for scum reading Jibril but I don't think I ever did that.
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Post Post #931 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:16 am

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In post 923, BuJaber wrote:
In post 921, RCEnigma wrote:So damned if I do damned if I don't basically?

Damned if you refuse to acknowledge our argument.

You're making it sound like your read on joges mattered when it didn't.
You can see why I would feel this extended discussion would be an easy narrative for scum to provoke considering I know my alignment correct?

It's unfortunate even if Nero is town because one of us absolutely has to be flipped at some point. Scum never kills either of us, and if he is scum that's his out. So us both being town may even be worst case.
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Post Post #932 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:22 am

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In post 930, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 919, BuJaber wrote:
In post 910, Nero Cain wrote:What's my motivation here?
Shading people on the wagon while dispelling any TMI tell against you?

You don't see that that's a possible scum move?
Exactly how does me mistakenly reading someone as town and then noticing that there was no evidence to support my position shade anyone? I've heard that the key to successfully arguing is to never admit fault but I like to keep things honest. I could theoretically scum read someone for scum reading Jibril but I don't think I ever did that.

The shading would come post-flip of course.

So far you've just gone after rce though which would have probably happened no matter what jibril flipped.
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Post Post #933 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:27 am

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Yes, I've talked about no one other than RCE in 100+ posts. like really? :igmeou:
In post 932, BuJaber wrote:The shading would come post-flip of course.
but it didn't happen. I saw my mistake and corrected it. So how is it scummy again?
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Post Post #934 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:34 am

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An actual scumcase + vote? Only rce so far.

And yes so far you haven't been faulting people for the lynch so it isn't scummy, but I couldn't have known that day 1 now could I? Your behavior around jibril was scummy you're just not following through with it and I'm taking into consideration or else I'd have beeen voting you right off the bat
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Post Post #935 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:48 am

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So you're basically saying that I'm scummy no matter what b/c I didn't jump at your TMI case and mistakenly town reading her and the only reason you aren't voting me is b/c I caught my mistake and didn't blame others for scum reading her. Correct?

Although, you do know that there practically has to be scum on the wagon unless you think that was an all town wagon and all the scum didn't vote her. So do I get scumread if I think ppl are scummy for scum reading her b/c that's kinda the impression I got. What about others?
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Post Post #936 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:50 am

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Fun fact: so far RCE has called me scum with both Joges and Jibril.
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Post Post #937 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:00 am

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In post 935, Nero Cain wrote:So you're basically saying that I'm scummy no matter what b/c I didn't jump at your TMI case and mistakenly town reading her and the only reason you aren't voting me is b/c I caught my mistake and didn't blame others for scum reading her. Correct?

Although, you do know that there practically has to be scum on the wagon unless you think that was an all town wagon and all the scum didn't vote her. So do I get scumread if I think ppl are scummy for scum reading her b/c that's kinda the impression I got. What about others?

No I am saying that now I can't use that tell to scumread you because you've made it invalid by not following through. So now there's no scum-motivation for your jibril townread.

I can scumread you for other things if I see them.

Others scumreading people on the wagon would be nai.

It's not you nero personally, it's just you happen to be the one townreading jibril for no reason
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Post Post #938 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:07 am

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I was null reading her when I noticed my mistake but I also didn't feel like your TMI case was impressive.

Could you, as scum, throw shade at me for not wanting Jibril till the very end? What makes me more suspicious than other non-Jibril voters?
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Post Post #939 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:10 am

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How do I stop seeing posts from a user?
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Post Post #940 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:15 am

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Nero Cain wrote:I was null reading her when I noticed my mistake but I also didn't feel like your TMI case was impressive.

Could you, as scum, throw shade at me for not wanting Jibril till the very end? What makes me more suspicious than other non-Jibril voters?
Fair question. I was focused on you too much. Not talking about or voting for jibril is far worse probably. And we might have one or two people who scumread her but didn't vote worth looking into.

I'll have to reread some ISOs because that requires finding what isn't there. In the meantime we do have the pool of actual voters and we can flip scum there for associatives.
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Post Post #941 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:15 am

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FOE list but that doesn't work in games or you could just you know, not sign up in games I'm in. Not sure why you have your panties in a wad. Its a game, I'm playing the game. It's nothing personal.
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Post Post #942 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:16 am

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In post 939, RCEnigma wrote:How do I stop seeing posts from a user?
By one of you dying.

There's another way but it probably breaks a rule.
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Post Post #943 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:25 am

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or maybe its just some
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designed to get ppl to not want to vote you b/c you are claiming that I'm bullying you or something. IDK
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Post Post #944 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:22 am

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In post 815, BuJaber wrote:I think you and RCE are opposite alignments. That was pretty clear from before.
How can you tell if 2 people are different alignments? Town always fight with town too, so I think it more accurate to say they're not scum together.
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Post Post #945 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:41 am

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In post 874, Enigma wrote:Would vote atm: emperor and rooster
Can you elaborate? I have emperor as null and have a town lean on roster.
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Post Post #946 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 5:11 am

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In post 941, Nero Cain wrote:FOE list but that doesn't work in games or you could just you know, not sign up in games I'm in. Not sure why you have your panties in a wad. Its a game, I'm playing the game. It's nothing personal.
It's just a playstyle clash I dunno, your posts are like nails on a chalkboard.
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Post Post #947 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 5:14 am

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In post 801, rosterfoster wrote:Well I suck at mafia. Flip makes me pretty sure eyes is town.

VOTE: Stan1ey
I thought Stanley made this post but I was wrong. Still curious which flip made eyes town and why exactly?
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Post Post #948 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 5:27 am

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In post 931, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 923, BuJaber wrote:
In post 921, RCEnigma wrote:So damned if I do damned if I don't basically?

Damned if you refuse to acknowledge our argument.

You're making it sound like your read on joges mattered when it didn't.
You can see why I would feel this extended discussion would be an easy narrative for scum to provoke considering I know my alignment correct?

It's unfortunate even if Nero is town because one of us absolutely has to be flipped at some point. Scum never kills either of us, and if he is scum that's his out. So us both being town may even be worst case.
I do not like this -- reads like someone trying to set up a 1v1 and then get out of it when the other person flips town.
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