Micro 851: Baby Too Much Scum (Game Over)

[Vedith]

Wait, this started?

[Vedith]

Well, at least I'm confirmed town.

[Vedith]

I didn't get a message

[Vedith]

I think a mass claim will help the game prod along.

[Vedith]

Can I get a free town pass day 2 if I do?

[Vedith]

VOTE: BBMolla

[Vedith]

Yes, tomorrow we lynch Reckoner.

[Vedith]

What a mess.
Sorry Molla but you're lying.

[Vedith]

Did you just hammer the confirmed town?!

[Vedith]

*throws down shade ready for day 2*

[Vedith]

I'm voting there btw...

[Vedith]

I'm helping \o/

[Vedith]

Is Molla not hammered yet? I thought he was.
For a "PR" he's very quiet to how it expect him to be.

[Vedith]

I'd lynch Reckoner

[Vedith]

Because that slot is not town.

[Vedith]

i am town so you're an idiot

Being an idiot has nothing to do with your alignment.

[Vedith]

explain how any of that play between me n bbmolla yesterday is a scumpairing

You're probably SK, not Scum.

[Vedith]

oh im not sk either and if i were i wouldnt advocate leaving them both alive adn taking the 50/50 shot

You mean when it was obvious that we were lynching anyway?
Trying to use this to justify yourself spells SK even more.

VOTE: Reckoner

[Vedith]

VOTE: Vedith

POE.

Fair analysis.

[Vedith]

I had some real analysis that you cut out here.

I wasn't actually being sarcastic btw.
I don't see negative motive to your post.

[Vedith]

I'd More likely to be SK than Scum.

[Vedith]

Thought that too but I'm not strong in feeling it so just left both options open.

That's fair. I like the thought process to it.

[Vedith]

VOTE: Segaco

[Vedith]

It's most likely Reckoner. If you're going to lynch there today I'll take the sneaky opportunity to join

[Vedith]

I don't give big boy words, but I know that non town normally get angry and try to get personal with me when i call them out.

Learn where you played wrong this game and improve next game. \o/

[Vedith]

like unless someone is functionally retarded, any person here as SK would've made that shot last night so i dont see how it specifically reflects back on me

The kill doesn't. Your play does.
Unlucky this game.

[Vedith]

AtE is always NAI but keep trying with it.

\o/

[Vedith]

Oh no, you stopped being 'useful', to whatever this tragic response to being called SK is.

Moving on. I'll happily lynch Reckoner if the wagon is there.

[Vedith]

Who's L1?

[Vedith]

It's 4 to lynch, not 3.

[Vedith]

which would make the other mafia somewhere in {Not_Mafia, Vedith, brassherald, GeminiTwin12}.

Lol?

[Vedith]

Oh, I'm bad at math.

But you're pretty good at expressive arts \o/

[Vedith]

Ew

[Vedith]

Reckoner needs the mafia alive as long as possible. Did you notice the only player they don't have as Mafia possibility is the actual mafia partner?

[Vedith]

Brass, I like you. So I'll be nice here.
Sort it out.

[Vedith]

The SK cannot have the only other anti town lynched.
Lynch in town, take it to king maker and hope for the win.

[Vedith]

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VOTE: BBMolla

So fake

It's simple, he's obvscum

He didn't, he was talking bollocks

BOLLOCKS

BOLLOCKS

ZZZZzzzz molla is obvious pls just lynch

If you ever think NM is anything but town SK here, you're not town.

[Vedith]

Nah

[Vedith]

You mean the sinking ship that NM put the hole in?

[Vedith]

How does it go from 2 votes onto Molla to a 3rd vote from Brass to a fake hammer (which was the nail in the coffin and the fake reaction being the hammer) to just trying to benefit?

[Vedith]

On page 2 of all pages.

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You

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Read

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The

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Same

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Game

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As

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Me

[Vedith]

Right?

[Vedith]

Lol?

[Vedith]

[Vedith]

Don't worry, it will come back round to lynching on track my friend.

[Vedith]

Come on buddy, don't be like that just because I'm right.

[Vedith]

Don't get mad pal, after this game we can laugh over it.

[Vedith]

Bringing this back because It would be ironic if Reck IS the third.

Well, it is Reckoner.
Why would town ever get so angry to someone calling them Scum or town in such a mild way.

And that list of Scum is just tragic.

[Vedith]

wow great quality insight

See, mentioning them as SK is really triggering them because it's true.

[Vedith]

Hii

Oh nice, we have plenty of time~
Pretty sure we'll do just fine. Probably.

Well now, lets see, lets see...
My first vote goes to VOTE: Clemency!
Because it rhymes

I still stand by my previous post.

VOTE: Gemini

I, too, stand by your hi

Things movin' slow, let's see what can be done

everything about these interactions here are making me um gross

Why don't you like crumb jokes dearest Reckoner? Is it because the crumb joke reminded you of the loneliness of being the one and only SK?!
I see, I see. I understand *pat pat*

UNVOTE: Clemency
VOTE: Reckoner

Allow me to end your suffering. I will miss you very much :<

Oh, rip the rest of the day.

Yes, tomorrow we lynch Reckoner.

That wouldn't be nice, I find Reckoner to be a very nice human.

To be clear bbmolla is being voted because of their earlier postings, because their obv scum? I'm asking because of the wagoning that happened earlier, which still feels icky.

How does it feel icky? I don't see anything weird Gomini

With the claim wording I don't really think mr bbgun is the fbi person, but we shouldn't be lynching a fbi claim anywa--

for real
lynch me if i'm wrong
(oh wait i cant be)

That's even worse, don't claim FBI agent D1!! If you die we will have no way to catch the cereal muncher!! Good thing bbgun still holds his claim, now the cereal has to choose between you two. But still, bad!

VOTE: Clemency

And you doing that is also bad! For all you know he could be trying to protect you by counter claiming. Voting him breaks the purpose!
Plus, since it is unlikely the poor lone SK would claim FBI now, we should be voting outside you two anyway. At best we got a 3/6 chance of getting an evil dude.

UNVOTE: Reckonee
VOTE: Gemini

This guy, for example. I don't like how he's acting.

This apparently means that Reckoner town reads and rules them out as both SK and Scum, but yet the remaining 4 are just in possible Scum/SK.

There s no logical way to see Reckoner as town here.

[Vedith]

not mafia would totally bus bbmolla that hard d1

But SK now?

[Vedith]

piss off. you're either scum or so goddamn arrogant that you can't see how stupid you are

Why can't I be both if I'm Mafia?
If I'm mafia I'm hunting for the SK anyway. Yet you make it sound like I can only be wrong as town if it's my true thought.

[Vedith]

im not responding to vedith anymore in this game because he's acting like such a massive, total cunt that i cannot respond in a peaceful manner because i fucking hate cunts

so instead i will put him on ignore

SK triggered because Reckoner cannot argue anything I am saying.

[Vedith]

AtE is always NAI.
Never forget and I can show examples if people disagree.

Town get angry just as much as Scum get angry.

[Vedith]

I would have killed clem \o/

[Vedith]

oh im not sk either and if i were i wouldnt advocate leaving them both alive adn taking the 50/50 shot

oh im not sk either and if i were i wouldnt advocate leaving them both alive adn taking the 50/50 shot

You mean when it was obvious that we were lynching anyway?
Trying to use this to justify yourself spells SK even more.

VOTE: Reckoner

I really don't give a fuck.
Nobody has given a single goddamn reason for me to be SK. No reasons. No cases. Just empty votes or fingers pointed my way. Or Vedith being a gigantic asswipe.

If anyone actually had things to point out to me, maybe I could engage and respond. But no, 7 pages of bullshit, an irritatingly fast D1 without much to dig into, and then D2 is just "reck sk lol" with no reasons and I'm fucking over it.

I don't really expect to be able to defend myself against the wind, so instead I'll just get angry about it so when I flip town I can be indignant as fuck about how wrong everyone was. It's one small satisfaction I take away from games where people push me based on nothing. At least I can point out how idiotic it is later.

[Vedith]

Vedith you're clearly a Nickleback fan, don't get upset or it's trrruuueeee.

I once dabbled in the fine arts

[Vedith]

Don't care

[Vedith]

ALLERGIES!

[Vedith]

Is that some huge bang theories reference? Never watched it.

[Vedith]

Oh.

[Vedith]

ew

[Vedith]

\o/

[Vedith]

So, what stage are we at?
Segaco giving reads will be good.
Also thoughts on you being town read by Reckoner?

[Vedith]

Exciting stuff

[Vedith]

Tom Clancy Jr can take over.

[Vedith]

Lol let's just lynch Segaco already.

[Vedith]

How are you today, Brass?

[Vedith]

The SK is Reckoner though.

[Vedith]

VOTE: Reckoner
Let's just get rid of this spot. It's a tactical replace out and at least then we lynch SK.

[Vedith]

@Vedith What's making you believe that Reck is SK over Segaco?

@NM opposite question, What makes Segaco SK over being mafia?

I don't want to have to metaphorically flip a coin here but

Reckoner was looking to not lynch Molla when Clem counter claimed. Scum don't do this in any way.
Its a win win though Reckoner either claims it should be seen as towny to suggest that (already did 151) and the lynch plus NK goes through. Or the lynch doesn't happen? Clem is killed because it was obvious that Molla wasn't town and then town waste a lynch on Molla.

It's standard shit. The reaction from Reckoner was just loan out of proportion. I came into the day being called Scum/SK because that is the point.
It looked to be Reckoner playing the AtE card, which I get it, a lot of players fall for that shit and AI it.

Segaco as Scum also has interest in not lynching the SK as much as SK doesn't want to kill/lynch the Mafia.

And look, they are both town reading each other and pushing lynches away from their slots.

[Vedith]

I feel like I should hate 313 but I actually like it.

[Vedith]

Depends who the SK hits.
But it would be in favour of both Mafia and SK to lynch the other.
And obviously town lose if not SK.

So lynching you today would just solve that.
Tell me why you think Segaco is scum/SK though.

[Vedith]

But what did you see that made you think that?

[Vedith]

And you think SK?

[Vedith]

Okay, explain to me why I should vote Segaco over you?
Because killing the SK is better than Mafia so I wanted to know if this is what you were aiming for.
Unless just think that im the SK but just a harder lynch for the day.

I'd like to believe it if you are, so work with me on your reasons.

[Vedith]

sheeping nm a townread
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sega's vote pattern, accusing gemini of being sk and specifically sk (i have townread on gem), accusing me of being his main mafia suspect

What's wrong with thinking someone is directly mafia or SK?
I think you are directly SK. Is that bad in itself?

[Vedith]

I feel like the actual SK would be content with any misslynch.

[Vedith]

nm makes no sense as SK or Mafia.

[Vedith]

one of the things that stood out in ISOs was how sure it sounded from ved & sega in thinking that gem & I were sk or mafia. that part is still bothering me but we have 9 days & nm is making me paranoid being so quiet

Of course I think you're SK I've explained in my ISO.

[Vedith]

Because it's been said already. SK want a mis lynch on town today.
I believe that NM believes that Segaco is not town. So why would as SK he want to lynch there today?

[Vedith]

and how would that answer my question?

lol?
I just explained why he's not SK.

[Vedith]

Okay so towns interest is in killing the SK.
I am claiming Mafia here so let's work out who's town out of you 3.

[Vedith]

Let's see what everyone says from here.

[Vedith]

Because I don't want SK to win by me getting lynched.

[Vedith]

I have bussed in every single mafia game I have.

[Vedith]

I can do it when at my PC but I have a lot of Scum games. None from this year but 2017.
I've even day vigged my Scum partner in a game for credit.

I'm not the best Scum buddy to have.

[Vedith]

No problem.
I just tried to look via phone but it's annoying.

So why should I not think that you're the SK here Mr. Brass?

[Vedith]

Okay Brass isn't the SK I think.
So nm, Segaco why should we not consider you as the SK?

[Vedith]

Segaco why you no SK though?

[Vedith]

Okay Brass.
Here are my last 5 Scum games that I find via phone.
I excluded 2. 1 I was solo mafia in 5p and one I recently just finished being Scum but there was a hidden mechanic in the game making bussing worthless

viewtopic.php?f=52&t=71753

viewtopic.php?f=53&t=73108

viewtopic.php?f=84&t=72847

viewtopic.php?f=84&t=72441

viewtopic.php?f=84&t=72196

The 5th one I barely bus. But you can see a pattern.

[Vedith]

But we both know that doesn't work out for you Brass.

[Vedith]

I assume you read the games I posted, correct?

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To at least a skim over I mean.

[Vedith]

It's fine.
I'm pretty sure that NM is SK and Brass is mafia.
The first link I posted should explain why I'm not actually mafia.

VOTE: No lynch

Segaco you should do no lynch now too.

Pedit shame

[Vedith]

I wanted a reaction test, and Brass thinking I was SK there made him putty into my hands.

I'm helping \o/

[Vedith]

Oh. Then as town you really should no lynch.

[Vedith]

But there's no rush atm I guess

Although it's solved.

[Vedith]

\o/
Make sure you kill Brass, nm.

It's proven I would never claim Mafia in that situation.

[Vedith]

But there's no rush atm I guess

Although it's solved.

It isn't if you think I'm scum but whatever.

I like you Brass, I really do.
But you failed the test :<

[Vedith]

You will always have a special place in my heart <3

[Vedith]

But it wasn't just from that.
The moment you thought I was SK and you were safe from the night kill, you wanted to no lynch.

Your entire reaction to me claiming Mafia was scummy.
Segaco passed and I already said nm is never Mafia there.

[Vedith]

Civ \o/

[Vedith]

Well, I know you're wrong, that's all I need for my happiness. And you'll see it to

I'll give my apologies after if I'm wrong.
But I think I'm right.

[Vedith]

Okay \o/

[Vedith]

Brass, as I said, I like you.
But more you post to defend now more you look Mafia :<

[Vedith]

Oh look, I was wrong on Brass.
So, impress me both if you.
Of course, if either of you think im SK then say and ill impress you. \o/

[Vedith]

Wouldn't it be more sincere if I say it after game when you know if I'm SK or town?

[Vedith]

I wouldn't have ever claimed mafia as Mafia there.
Only as town or SK.

Wouldn't the kill outside of you and me suggest the SK is either me or you?

[Vedith]

Also if I was king maker i'd give it to who I like more. Not who puts effort in. Because I'm Vedith \o/

[Vedith]

I think you might be SK.
And you released that I wasn't Mafia.

But NM killing Segaco makes sense as he probably believed that was Mafia.
Or maybe was hoping for a 1v1v1.

Or maybe you wanted a 1v1v1.

Who the fuck knows.

[Vedith]

I can confirm that I'm not SK.
I kill you every day there and continue to push nm as SK.

I'm pretty much confirmed.
Vote yourself and ill prove it.

[Vedith]

I wish I were SK. I only joined this game because I really wanted to be SK. I have stayed because it has been quick.

I only joined to play with you.

[Vedith]

Should I hammer test you and vote nm?

[Vedith]

But do you think it's beneficial for me to do?
If you think I should then I will.

[Vedith]

I am town so I think you should! \o/

[Vedith]

In all honesty I don't think nm changes my mind on anything and probably just chucks a vote down anyway so I might do it.
I think and I read.

But I'd have you over nm as town atm.

[Vedith]

I will not hammer test you

Back to equal

[Vedith]

I'm town

[Vedith]

\o/

[Vedith]

Right now I have nm as +1 town for trusting me.
What have you done for nearly, Brass?!

[Vedith]

Lately not nearly \o/

[Vedith]

A compliment wouldn't go a miss.
Say something nice about me!

I think nm has great fashion.
I think Brass was the fastest kid at school.

See!

[Vedith]

I'd rather just lose the goddamn game because you are being too stubborn than need to do favors for a win.

Come on now it's a joke. I thought you of all people would appreciate it

[Vedith]

Okay I'll stop joking around sorry.
In all honesty I'm favouring you over nm.
Let me think.

[Vedith]

By favour I mean as town.

[Vedith]

So here's what I'm directly thinking.
Personally I think Brass realised I was fake claiming and therefore doesn't see me as Mafia. Nm really doesn't look like he's Mafia so a kill on Segaco is the best option.

Nm probably strongly believed Segaco as mafia but outside of that thought that Brass could have been it. So it's a harder choice here.

I don't actually see that as much rellevence yet but I'm thinking!

[Vedith]

I noticed what you meant.
Im still at work and be up for a long time so I'll pass this game until tomorrow.

[Vedith]

Okay I'm going to vote.
Anyone want to add anything before I do or should I go ahead?

[Vedith]

I feel like the player i chlse as SK is going to be town and ill make a lot of people very sad.
But I am very happy because you are all beautiful players and all are winners in my book \o/

[Vedith]

Wrong! Everyone is a winner regardless.

[Vedith]

I'm hoping that's just a joke

[Vedith]

VOTE: Brass

If I'm wrong I'll add it to the apology after flip! :<

[Vedith]

Sorry Brass! I apologies for calling you mafia and voting you :<
Don't be mad though, we all had fun \o/

Thanks for modding all and well done nm!

You are all beautiful players.