Anime U-Pick: King Size [SEASON FINALE...?]

[Dunnstral]

my conclusions have, as always, been accurate.

Severa was likely getting lynched today,

No he wasn't

+almost nobody who I can think of who actually has been stating much of a townread on me.

Wrong

almost nobody actually concluded that Toog was probtown

Wrong

Shape up

It *IS* a pretty grievous failing on the part of everyone, including myself, to not conclude that Toog made more sense as town than scum because their action guaranteed their lynch on D3 if scum.

I said this word for word

Stop posting

[Reasonably Psychotic]

almost is town

I insist mastina/Elena/rp should contain the two remaining

~Near

So if there are two scum left(which seems reasonable for the top end?), and no town performs any actions that kill people, I'm okay with a suicide pact between yourself and everyone you listed, as long as you go first.

2/9 3 on list
2/8
2/7 2 on list
2/6
1/5 1 on list, one scum lynched
1/4
1/3 town win

Are you confident enough in that PoE to agree to that?

-Yukiteru

[Torque]

I dont mean to attack you

I'm trying to get you to explain your thoughts even though it's probably a lost battle there

[Reasonably Psychotic]

Dunnstral, nothing you quoted disagrees with the ENTIRETY of my post. Don't do the bullshit thing of posting only a part of my sentences. There's a reason I phrase things the way I do.

-Yukiteru

[Torque]

Oi we assumed 15v4 this entire game now

isn't that too few wolves

[Torque]

Em Dunn those posts just turned out to be wrong

I don't see why its scummy

[Near x Mello]

no im not confident at all given how wrong ive been up to now

but i wouldn't allow you to lynch me regardless

~Near

[Reasonably Psychotic]

Oi we assumed 15v4 this entire game now

isn't that too few wolves

21%. It's on the low side, yes, but 5 is on the high side.

I would actually think 4:1-2:13-14, with the 1-2 being 3p that are not explicitly anti-town.

Honestly, all we KNOW is that there is at least one more groupscum out there. I'm just running with NxM's own assumptions about remaining scum to ask him to put his money where his mouth is.

-Yukiteru

[Dunnstral]

Not sure what you guys are talking about in regards to rp

They said they've been right but the data was wrong - no, they've j ust been incorrect

I'm not confident in a50 being town and would look to lynch there in the near near future

a 19 player game is in between 4 and 5 scum

[Reasonably Psychotic]

no im not confident at all given how wrong ive been up to now

but i wouldn't allow you to lynch me regardless

~Near

Why are *you* not working to reevaluate then?

-Yukiteru

[Near x Mello]

i am, you just cant see it

[Dunnstral]

Remember how near x mello kept asking "who are robert's buddies" to dissuade a wagon there

Now that they've flipped scum it turns out their answer is "The same people I was pushing before the flip anyway"

[Dunnstral]

Something to note(and possibly a note for the mod on why giving reasons for mod kills if the action occurred outside of the game thread): We can fairly confidently conclude that the scum team does not have an encryptor/day talk in any way, unless we assume that SN was trying to talk to someone who is NOT a member of the scum team OR they were trying to talk to a previous holder of their slot.

Don't agree with this method (as in I don't think it's reliably true)

I do think scum does not have day talk in this game though, but I'd point to mod meta for this mod and how a previous game of this type didn't have day talk

[Near x Mello]

we already know they dont have daytalk

[Reasonably Psychotic]

Not sure what you guys are talking about in regards to rp

They said they've been right but the data was wrong - no, they've j ust been incorrect

I'm not confident in a50 being town and would look to lynch there in the near near future

a 19 player game is in between 4 and 5 scum

Dunnstral, I was saying my conclusions were correct. The data I was drawing from(my memory/what I paid attention to) was incorrect, namely about the people who said anything about the toog slot. The fundamental conclusions though, that the bulk of the game DID NOT say anything about them, AND that Severa was very likely to be lynched today, and that I was certainly the best counterwagon option for scum!SN...those things were all correct.

This is...not valuable conversation Dunn. I'm a cocky bastard, and I say the things I say the way I say them specifically so I am TECHNICALLY correct. It's a waste of your time, and mine, to go over this.

With that established.

None of those posts are bad, in the way you intended them to be. None of them were scum-indicative in any way, unless you believe imprecision and inattention to detail is a hallmark of my scum play. Given that imprecision and inattention to detail is almost certainly contraindicative of scum!me, I fail to see how anything you quoted is in any way significant of my alignment in the way you are implying it is.
-Yukiteru

[Dunnstral]

Yeah I meant from a townies perspective

[Dunnstral]

Severa was going to be lynched by who?

[Dunnstral]

and that I was certainly the best counterwagon option for scum!SN...

I know

That doesn't mean you can't still be scum

It's not even a stretch, because the same theory that SN came into the thread with information and a plan on what to do applies either way, what you do have going for you is that he mentioned replacing out (he didn't bold it though, so who knows if that was real) which indicates he wasn't getting his way

[Dunnstral]

i dont get it but whatever

VOTE: vedith

~Near

VOTE: Vedith

All caught up. Not even sure how I feel about this, but letting him off the hook will always come back to haunt us later on regardless of his true alignment.

L-1

[Dunnstral]

For comparison, here's what a towny vote looks like:

VOTE: Vedith

[Pink Ball]

VOTE: Vedith

[Reasonably Psychotic]

Something to note(and possibly a note for the mod on why giving reasons for mod kills if the action occurred outside of the game thread): We can fairly confidently conclude that the scum team does not have an encryptor/day talk in any way, unless we assume that SN was trying to talk to someone who is NOT a member of the scum team OR they were trying to talk to a previous holder of their slot.

Don't agree with this method (as in I don't think it's reliably true)

I do think scum does not have day talk in this game though, but I'd point to mod meta for this mod and how a previous game of this type didn't have day talk

Agreed that it's not reliable, thus the addendum of the adverb "fairly" to describe how "confidently" we could arrive at that conclusion.

Severa was going to be lynched by who?

Feel free to look up the wagons on the Morality/FL slot which Severa was in, and note the general lack of strong townreads on the slot expressed except from Joan and Clemency, who was replaced by someone who was NOT expressing the same strong town read on the slot.

and that I was certainly the best counterwagon option for scum!SN...

I know

That doesn't mean you can't still be scum

It's not even a stretch, because the same theory that SN came into the thread with information and a plan on what to do applies either way, what you do have going for you is that he mentioned replacing out (he didn't bold it though, so who knows if that was real) which indicates he wasn't getting his way

Oh, sure. I literally never said that being the best counterwagon option for scum!SN meant I couldn't be scum with them.

I would never play this poorly as scum, or sacrifice myself for a compromised slot, but yes, being a strong counterwagon option for scum!SN to go after does not mean I could not be scum with them.

Pink Ball: Care to share some thoughts? You've been very quiet.
-Yukiteru

[Pink Ball]

I've been quiet here but active in Channels. And my reads hasn't changed since like... My first post when I replaced in, which was a great post looking at some flips.

VOTE: Elena Fisherman's Wharf

[Pink Ball]

Page 14 now. Clem and Toog are town. mastina makes me paranoid but I think she's town. Joan of Arc at first I thought "man this is the easiest scum catch of them all" but now I think she's town. Spike and Jet probtown. No good reads on other players 'cause they're far better than me (Near x Mello, Dunn, Morality and A50; I have good vibes on all 4 of them, but I can't be trustful there yet). Gamma Emerald scum gutread. Didn't like SSBF's entrance but not one of my top scumreads. Torque and Elena Fisher both scummy.

This is the post I'm referring to. Torque's read changed to town.

[Pink Ball]

And as for how the gamestate is right now, I would describe it as "town egomaniac scumreads other town egomaniac in the biggest battle of egos of the century". It doesn't matter when you read this, it fits at any point of this game.