Anime U-Pick: King Size [SEASON FINALE...?]

[Near x Mello]

I have a track record for having right reads for "dumb" reasons so I'll stick with those thank you

well youre not right this time.

[mastina]

I was one of the strongest contributors to getting Vedith lynched D1.
I was one of the strongest proponents for lynching Robert/ooba/SuperfluousNinja

Bullshit. You voted vedith very reluctantly and said you dont think hes flipping scum.

Which mind you is proof that I'm town because if I were scum I wouldn't have shown any doubts.
But I never said I was the strongest believer in getting Vedith lynched.
I said I was one of the strongest CONTRIBUTORS to getting Vedith lynched.

I pushed Vedith on the flavor point, bringing up the new evidence; I also strongly advocated that "of all our lynch candidates, he's the most likely to be scum", which I went into in EXTREME detail in my neighborhood. Speaking of, in there, I early-on pushed the point that Vedith's pushing of mastina vs. Pink Ball as TownvTown was likely just an attempt at getting cheap towncred; Torque and I actually fought about it a little. (I was right.)

You had a ton of other scumreads above Robert at all times and only pushed hik when everyone wanted to push him.

I never stopped pushing him. I never stopped pushing him at any point. I had other scumreads above Robert, yes--but these scumreads were scumreads I had plans for.

Robert's slot was my third strongest scumread.
My second-strongest was Toogeloo--who I had a plan to eliminate during the night. I never needed to push Toogeloo and my neighborhood can vouch for me when I said that I gave reasons for him being scum but said, "I'm not bringing these to the main thread right now because they would be a distraction from a slot that will resolve itself overnight", more or less.

My strongest scumread was Morality/Flavor Leaf--a push I promptly and IMMEDIATELY dropped once Severa started playing.

Hey genius.

Simple process.
I dropped my Severa, strongest-scumread, push.
I didn't push Toogeloo.
Robert was my third-strongest scumread at that point in the game.
Now who, pray tell, was I pushing if not Severa and if not Toogeloo?

and more bullshit im not going to answer to

AKA, "mastina's right and I have no way of countering it".

[mastina]

Town you would be all over her due to poe if nothing else

Ehhh fuck it.

Elena's a member of my neighborhood and I have damn good reason to believe she's town from content within.

There.

[Near x Mello]

AKA, "mastina's right and I have no way of countering it".

this alone is a scumclaim to me
You know very well that i am capable of countering each and every word you post but dont do it because it will only make you look better.
Yet you post this manipulative shit so that others get the impression you are right here.
Take notes for next time.

[mastina]

Which mind you is proof that I'm town because if I were scum I wouldn't have shown any doubts.

Exercise time.

In the last five years.

Find a single scum game of mine where I showed public reluctance when casting a bus vote.

Genuinely, seriously, challenging you to do this.

I'm pretty sure you won't find any.

Maybe further back than five years, sure.
And you will find bus votes, yeah.
But you won't see reluctant bus votes.
You'll see hard, fast, strong push bus votes where I call them scum, repeatedly, with conviction.

So when I say it's proof that I'm town.
I mean it's pretty fucking strong proof.
That I am town.

[Chito and Yuuri]

Chito: Ok. No. It's not just "mastina/elena" that is what two people are saying. I'm saying we need to look at GAMMA.

Hello all! Let’s mess the scum up shall we?

Scummy RVS entrance.

Hello all! Let’s mess the scum up shall we?

This game is remarkably shorter thanI would’ve expected lol

Scummy

I’d say you’re shit at reading me but you haven’t been Town with me in a while so I don’t know what the actual level is there

One of the few townie responses -- but compared to all the issues I have with this iso, this is not nearly enough for me.

Lame tryharding.

Scummy.

no you're not but nice try

I also find this worth filing away for later.

Scummy.

Hi I'm a mason with Clemency.
VOTE: Joan of Arc.
Scum!

Any particular reasons why?

Because you scumslipped, duh.

Where?

Considering I am town, there isn't any and there can't be any, so you are bluffing.

Yeah this person is scrambling it seems.
VOTE: Jaune Arc

Is this a real town reaction to Joan asking "where?" I don't think so. How does that make Joan "scrambling"?

and you claiming that with your scrambling makes you scummier, as why would you scramble like that if you were unlynchable?

This doesn't actually make sense although I'm not sure it's scummy but it's not a townie thought process either

Also SSBF proly town

This is a terrible position that Gamma later backpedals in the worst way after stalling

and anti-vaxxers say vaccines are bad, so what?

I think this is a town!Creature response

This is the second thing that Gamma says that actually strikes me as slightly townie -- so no, I'm not 100% sure Gamma is scum, and I feel like there's worth having a conversation here, but this is still not nearly enough to shake my read.

Gamma what of ssbf's catch up did you like lol i dont get it

In a sec

Scummy stalling.

Tbh I like SSBF's posting a lot less now. I think I just saw walls with seemingly thought out statements and townbinned it.

What's really important here is how this relates to the N&M backpedal later, in addition to this being a scummy backpedal on a townread of scum.

Mmm I feel like Morality is town but that'll be pending his return.

why would Morality's 'return' change his alignment?

Drixx wut are your reads rn?

VOTE: Drixx
post reads or die, that's where I'm at with you rn

half of those "reads" aren't conclusive. Clarify.

I have. No excuse for him to give wishy-washy looking garbage.

scummy

VOTE: Vedith mkay

0 reason to see this as not a bus

im not trying to lynch him but ill let that aside

why is he not fakeclaiming that role? why should i automatically believe him? do you think morality is not good enough scum to play like he has played?

~Near

First off, each time I asked that exact same question, people flipped me off, so why shouldn't I do the same to you?

Second of all, here

If you look at all my games since SU2, you'll see that I doubted the hell out of my hood-mates, every single time.

Oh, and this is the reason I usually make fluff posts, because every time I try to play seriously, people shut me out.

Feeling like Joan is town.

This isn't that bad on its own but it's worth pointing out that Gamma has flipped just about every single read this game, not just the scummy backpedal on Vedith, but basically every read flip flops nonstop.

I like Near's case on Robert rn

Like, this is not that long before the flip to voting Near.

holy fucking gross
just because I miscommunicate info I'm no longer town?
VOTE: Almost50, let's fucking jam my dude

I love your honesty. here's a reward:

UNVOTE:

That was a little easy. What if I was lying?

If you had said anything else I would have suspected you were lying. This is the one and only reason I thought might make sense for that vote.

A50 is town guys.

Just putting this flip in juxtaposition.

lol whatever VOTE: Robert

this is the second time you ignore me

VOTE: gamma

~Near

Okay, my apologies but I'm watching a VOD in the meantime and I'm trying to not miss awesome moments
As for my reads I suspect Robert as stated, I also am kinda waffling on Morality/flavor

0 reason to think this is not a bus

FL's points on Near look damn solid
VOTE: Near X Mello

this is an insane flip and tantamount to a scumclaim imo

I kinda wanna just vote FL now

reminder that morality has been townread throughout this game before now

I made my Hokage Naruto reference because I’m a character like that, and I’ll show you when I become Hokage.

That’s not my role, but it’s a solid parallel. I’ve already claimed in my channel. If you still want to push me, this is going to be an extremely over the top game. My channel and I have already pretty much nearly full claimed to each other. I can protect my channel and take out scum in the process.

I’m not going to say how, but I will take out a scum alongside me when my demise eventually comes.

This is town.

as such for context

MOD DECISION: SuperfluousNinja is being modkilled

for intentionally trying to communicate with another player through PM, being aware of abusing the rules. Their alignment will now be turned into a Neutral Survivor. Their Role PM before being modkilled is shown below. As there are no critical issues that would compromise the game, game now continues normally.

Spoiler: SuperfluousNinja's Role PM

ANIME U-PICK: KING SIZE

CHIBA ERIKA

Welcome,

Robert2424, ooba

SuperfluousNinja

, your role is

CHIBA ERIKA (Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei), sided with the Youtube Copystrikers!

!

WHAT YOU HAVE

• - You have your voice and vote, use them wisely and victory is yours.
  - You have [REDACTED] as your fellow Copystrikers. You all share a
  Factional PT
  where you can talk with your teammates during nights and pregame. Your Factional PT is locked during day phases.
  - You also have a
  factional kill
  power. Decide with your teammates and confirm in your PT;
  who is going to kill whom?
  . You may change decisions until the end of the night. You may choose to not kill.
  - You are invited to join 12312312121. Click on a channel name to access it.
  - As a trained daughter of the Chiba family, your physical abilities and speed are well beyond average. You try to use your speed to confuse others.
  {(UNLOCKED NIGHT 1)You may distract another player by targeting them each night. The target will be notified that someone targeted them, but not that you did. This action has no further effect.}
  
  -
  {(UNLOCKED NIGHT 2) If there is someone targeting you (if more than one, a random person), their action will fail and they will receive this message: "Whoosh, you're too slow, the target ran away".
  [/color]
  - ETHEREAL HIDDEN SWORD TECHNIQUE - KIRIKAGE!
  {(UNLOCKS NIGHT 3)With this honed skill, any nightkills made by you will become critical and cannot be saved by any healing roles. (I'm speaking about roles like Doctor)}.
  
  -
  REMEMBER THAT SOME OF YOUR ABILITIES ARE GREYED OUT AND WILL BE UNLOCKED WHEN THE GAME REACHES THE PHASE WRITTEN IN FRONT OF EACH LOCKED ABILITIES. AT THE END OF DAY 3, YOU MAY DECIDE TO DROP THIS ROLE PM AND REPLACE IT WITH A NEW ONE. MORE INFORMATION IN THE GAME THREAD.

HOW TO WIN

• -
  You win when at least half of the living players are YTCSs (Like 2 in 4) and no hostile neutrals (if any exist) are alive.

Good luck, y̙͔̽̓ͥ̈́o͇̖͈̹̹̦̹ͯ́ͧ̔́u̢͓͙̪̓'̗̜̼͎͆͢lͣ͐ͣ̓ͫ͏̶̙̞͇̖̗͍l̳̝̪̬̀͊ͭ̂͢ ̭͍̭̰͉́̾ͭ͊ͨ͒̚̕͢n͙̗̝̙̺̘͆͋̇͆ͧ̓ͦ̆͗́ê̴̱̦͎͇̄ͫ̋̀ͅe̵̼͙̗̣͔̞͂ͮ͑ͮ̿͜͝d̵͙̹̫͚̿͆̊̄̃ͨ̊ͤͤ͟ ̞̠̜̤̪̰͖̎̿͒̂́̀i̡͈̳͎͈͖͙̥ͦ͡t̴͙̭͉̘̠̬̥͊͐͛!̐̊ͦ͌ͫ̆ͫͧ́͠҉̟̥͈̻̙̱

waow

thats not scum indicative for me. I bus weak buddies

~Near

Can back this up and Clem should too

Well, I'm almost half way to being lynched. That's a pretty big thing to put onto one guy.
Now, I could have made it equal and voted Gamma, but that would make me as bad as the people voting me!

RED FLAGS RED FLAGS

Vedith entered the game as the largest wagon--he voted Pink Ball, the largest counterwagon, and avoided voting Gamma...with this bullshit excuse.

Try telling me with a straight face that his reason for not voting Gamma Emerald isn't absolute bullshit.

Are you trying to case me here? Cos it sounds like it.

this is exactly how I would see gamma responding to a scumbuddy being modkilled as scum.

I just read this iso, and the logical development *makes no sense whatsoever*

every position flips

every read changes at the drop of a hat

every vote on scum looks like a bus

there's like, two posts, I kinda like, out of the entire iso, but I wanna say those are pretty easily faked by scum Gamma.

This slot should go today.

Thankies.

[Near x Mello]

no it shouldnt. you need to play with gamma more.

[Chito and Yuuri]

Chito: No. You need to give me one reason to townread Gamma other than "I said so." Don't insult Gamma's townplay by implying that this level of incoherence is characteristic of her towngame.

Gamma is not town based on meta so stop pretending like she is.

[Torque]

My preference after SN flipped is Near x Mello > Gamma > A50

Tbh I think the game should end after them 3 dying so uh

[Near x Mello]

shallow as hell

[Near x Mello]

like in what world do i play like this as scum

[Near x Mello]

you cant even read me and you want to be trusted on people like mastina

[Torque]

the most obvious conclusion is most likely true conclusion
and the most obvious conclusion was your d1 vote looked like a bus vote on vedith and kept saying "robert is scummy" but pulling the lynch away from them

i've seen RC being the "most obvious scum", called him out, was right. "In what world do I play like this as scum" has no meaning and you know it

[Torque]

you cant even read me and you want to be trusted on people like mastina

People that I care enough to convince to townread mastina already do on their own accords lul

[mastina]

Spoiler: Extensive list of scumgames last five years

mystery box of silver
more songs
A Story Revisited
Minuet's Trio
Turn of Camn
XP Mafia
Organization XIII
Inventions Mafia
Newbie 1814
WWF Mafia
The Mystery At King's Landing
Civilization Mafia
Green Day UPick
Star Wars Rogue One
UNI MUM
Disney Villain
Inorganic Chemistry
molliegeddon
World of Mafiacraft
Newbie 1465
NY 172
Paranoia
Book of Shadows
Attack on Titan
Left 4 Dead
Micro 264
Micro 242
Micro 241
Micro 226
Mini 1530
Theater Season Mafia
Micro 195
Newbie 1378
Anything Goes
Shadows and Lights
The Walking Dead
Void Mountain Nightless
Buzzword Bingo
Micro 116
The Mind Reader
Playing With Fire
/in-vitational 15
Politics Mafia
Discworld Mafia

There maaaaaay be a mini normal or two not included, all alts are excluded, any hydra I didn't post on my main is excluded, but this is a pretty extensive list of my scumgames.

[mastina]

(And yes I did just spend all of that time compiling these, it's not something I have a list of for convenient reference.)

[Near x Mello]

yep torque thats exactly how i bus

[Chito and Yuuri]

Chito: Why can't we all just join hands, sing kumbaya, and lynch gamma emerald?

[mastina]

like in what world do i play like this as scum

Honestly I wouldn't say it's so much that you're scum.

As it is you're just getting in the way of progressing the game towards a town victory.

I wanted to lynch SuperfluousNinja--you fought me there.

I want to lynch Almost50--you're fighting me there.
An alternative lynch is Gamma Emerald--you're fighting Chito/Yuuri there.

If I thought the town would genuinely be better off lynching you as a policy-lynch in spite of knowing you're town?

I'd be awfully tempted to take that, yes.

[mastina]

Chito: Why can't we all just join hands, sing kumbaya, and lynch gamma emerald?

We can as a compromise but dammit let me fight for lynching Almost50 first.

[mastina]

like in what world do i play like this as scum

A question, mind you.

You utterly ignore when it's applied to me.

I've a proven track record of NOT playing this way as scum.

You discard it all.

And you're surprised when someone wants you dead?

Can't have your cake and eat it too, m'friend.

[Near x Mello]

Youve proven shit, youre playing exactly like you play as scum

[Joan of Arc]

You asked me to form a convincing argument as to why mastina is town. Well, I can't, because if the record of her games doesn't count as sufficient proof to you, then nothing I can provide will.

[Joan of Arc]

Therefore,



Steven out.

[Joan of Arc]

Oh, and let me tell you something, bub.

If mastina is indeed scum, then guess what? You are the one person whose chance of lynching her is closest to zero.