Open 750: Forest Fire (Game Over)

[RadiantCowbells]

i'm not sure why i agreed to replace into this game when i told the game mod after reading it that i was going to stay the fuck away from this shitshow. but volxen wasn't getting a replacement and essentially begged for me to join so i'll join. so for starters

rc town
buja town
vedith town

rb ?
egix ?
ttttt?

lovebird i think is scum

let's start with you lovebird

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vedith lets be a team i saw u had my slot as high town lets do something with that

we pretty much gotta, like, kill scum 2 consecutive days

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i'm like pretty convinced on the four reads i gave as not ???s

i'm currently completely out of answers on how to sort those ???s

rb i would like to believe is scum given their play but i really can't guarantee that and i see a case for either of the other two as well

if i had to force a read i would say tttt is the first one to put villa but

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classy.

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lovebird was already pushing that narrative and i know she's scum so nagl for you there rb

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how is lovebird towny whatsoever

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are u ready for this spicy, spicy meta analysis of lovebird?

if she was town she'd have been lynched by now

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do u understand from my pov

knowing you were wrong on vedith and me

and suspecting you are wrong on buja

hard to tr you

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ok

kinda get the feeling you have ttttt/egix doused and you're pushing us for the today win

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because you'd lose

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i don't think u have a lot of avenues to win this game as things are and you don't win a 1v1 with vedith

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and i mean, trying to pretend to not be informed by pretending you don't know that there's no cc is classic scum play. trying to get tcred for it is ??? what would even give you the impression that vedith is fake

or going from there: if you're doing so poorly reads wise that you believed vedith was lockscum and he was town, why hasn't it hurt your confidence on any of your other equally terrible reads

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all of this said we're lynching lovebird today

we have a reasonable-ish shot at having one mislynch after lovebird flips scum and that extra buffer would be v helpful in terms of dealing with an egix/ttttt/rb flex slot for scumpartner

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that's terrible ate and you can't expect me or anyone else in the game to fall for that if you're town

if you're town then help me see that someone else is scum, don't do... this

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build a bridge and get the fuck over it RB I replaced into this game to make the game an actual game even though I knew the lobby was dogshit and the slot i was taking is town

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you realize that you're at l-1 and i'm not hammering you, correct

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it notably doesn't prove me town if i'm scared that any of my hypothetical scumteams douses were prevented but

i want lovebird today. i know she's scum. we can lynch you tomorrow when there's a mislynch

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regardless of your alignment i'm your best chance of winning this game. play to it.

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VOTE: rb

if you've won as scum can you just tell me?

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:shrug:

i did my public service, regardless of whether my first pick team lovebird/rb was right or not.

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lovebird regardless of your alignment and rbs you're doing yourself no favors by not engaging with me.

Hi! how are you?

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oof lads

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ok well that's a scumclaim response at least

we'll see if vedith successfully prevented a kill if rb is town

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for no reason whatsoever

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i will now post

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!!!

can we discuss why you're not more concerned that I hard locktowned you in our past games and I'm scumreading you here?

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lol

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rc is scum btw

ok

i'm going to assume you're just scum muddying the waters at this point

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Hi, I read up. I'm not the firefighter. Rb, I think is definitely town though from his not believing.

I think this makes it as easy as Bu and Persivul, like I said before.

VOTE: Bujaber

VOTE: rb

:thonk:

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but, uh, why is rb scum tho

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oh noooo poor you

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i feel like i've tried to be far more reasonable than the circumstances justified

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I'm pretty sure its RC Buj if rb flips town. I also dont think we lost bc rb was the primed target I'm pretty sure

are you serious

lovebird quickhammered rb and you still think that I'm scum?

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are you really that confbiased at this point man?

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like this is all pretty academic

the game is resolved at this point regardless of what we do

but, like...

Lovebirds confusion seemed very genuine

no it wasn't lol. you need a crash course on how to read ate

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i'm just gonna stop arguing. we'll see what happens.

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i will be tilted to infinity if the scumpartner isn't rb, we somehow live to tomorrow, and my slot gets mislynched somehow though

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lol

what a world where lovebird blatantly scumhammers someone they were hard townreading and people are calling me scum for it

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I know you're good at getting lynches. And you wanted me dead.

I really really didn't want it where my lynch is what loses town the game again, and self voting is usually from scum...

right. ok.

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lol

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lol

what a world where lovebird blatantly scumhammers someone they were hard townreading and people are calling me scum for it

Nothing in this game makes sense

if you think this it means that scum are out thinking you

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i mean lovebird just /inned to another game

so i'm going to assume she's fairly confident that scum won tonight

i'll check out now

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Momentarily surprised by that before I realized that there was mechanically no reason for scum to ignite last night

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VOTE: Lovebird

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I've had my fill of the toxicity from this game.

I will be leaving if the players cannot be reasonable and civil.

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You can't read me worth jack Bujaber even if I spent the rest of my life posting in this thread

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My issue is it's still possible that scum ignites tonight and wins and the game was hopeless from the start

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So like post RB gamethrow it's hard to muster energy

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Yeah you should out your targets but no order at end of day

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Eh

I'm honestly not sure how much difference it makes

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I can't imagine scum not igniting tomorrow regardless and unless you goated then we're in 3 way if the game is still on

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Assuming lovebird QH = no lynched douses

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I think TTTT was doused so that's good news

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I was planning to just kill Lovebird and call it a day

Do you want more from me today vedith

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Go ahead Mr. votes RC over vigg/actual scum

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Yes I did

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FTR I thought Vedith was town

I didn't just not read my role pm

Nothing I could do with Lovebird/RB

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RC is God sheep His magnificence

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No he's actually scum

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Rekt

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is it bad that I want to no lynch to troll the mod

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Actually we can use it as a deadline extension

When can either of you be on for a sustained time so we can talk 1v1

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That ignite was so dumb...

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Actually maybe not

Killing vedith sorta maybe puts me in the lynchpool

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Ok NVM I see why the kill was made

TTTT was obvtown for refusing to play anyway

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Simple answer is egix but then again Bujaber tried to go for the early endgame yesterday so

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That's a good starting point

Why were you so convinced TTTT was scum yesterday Buj?

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You guys made some bad lynches this game...

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I never actually read the game in context until now. Ok.

So first goal fmpov is to convince you guys that it's not me since I think that I'm pretty good as town and can win this if my lynch isn't in question

1) I don't push Lovebird as scum. If I'm scum Buja lynch was an easy path to victory and you can be damn sure that I have the ability to make it happen. I even had the nuclear option of CCing Vedith. I have the 100% read meta on Lovebird and I'd love to be scumbuddies with the bird. Wouldn't bus her. And her fear of me and the resultant quickhammer indicate that I'm town at any rate.

2) I don't ignite to not win. Vedith hard townread me and if I'm scum I can just sic him on Egix and if TTTT ends up saved I can argue that it was me saved instead.

3) Persivul strategic replaced out of what he thought was a loss. Same reason I townread TTTT. Sorry to use out of game stuff (not really) but yeah

4) I think I've just been obvtown.

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It's... really not hurtful.

Or at the very least, shouldn't be.

I

can

do a lot of things as scum. Why would I choose these?

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I mean. I'm probably the hardest person on site to read. No player has established the ability to read me, ever. I think stating that you can't read me should be like the baseline

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Grr I was very angery because no one vote creature so I quickhammer

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I thought you were one of few people that understood me because your own playstyle is unorthodox but I guess you've been here too long they corrupted your open mindedness.

What exactly are you trying to say with this

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Also why were you so sure TTTT was town give raisins

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Err scum

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I didn't have a read on clemency

I didn't actually consider that he might be scum #3 when I was sure of two scum

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I thought you were the third because I thought you should have realized that creature at the very least was scum and creature Alonso never seemed to want to Lynch you tbh

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I changed my manner of speaking to conform to site expectations way back in 2013 tbh. I still play my ideal playstyle when I can get away with it but most often when I play the style of towngamw that best gets me town wins I get lynched for it

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BuJ: Throws unwarranted shade at Persi early on. I think that him characterising Milk v Slaxx as scum theatre is very shady. As I believe I've mentioned before, "You are choosing to side with the wrong team" really bugs me. But to be fair 296 does give me some pause. Scum lean.

Love: Most of her content involves quoting stuff and asking questions or saying "that's towny/scummy". I can see some original thoughts in posts such as 516 though. Slight town lean.

Persi: I find it a bit strange that he questioned Slaxx for voting me only after he'd voted me himself. His play here feels a bit different from my previous games with him. Not really anything specific I could point to though. Also I think him changing his mind about Slaxx D2 was a bit fishy. Slight scum lean. (Btw I'm not reading anything into his replacement request)

rb: His play in the early game felt reminiscent of my first game with him, where he was scum ("more x votes please" comes to mind) but since then. I do quite like the look of his D2 twilight posts though. Slight town lean.

4Ts: Their whole ISO has a lot of filler posts which is NAGL. I notice that they've started writing more in their posts this Day phase, which is a little bit better, but I haven't forgotten about their opportunistic-looking votes. Very slight scum lean.

Vedith: (FTR this is disregarding the FF claim) I still think that him having a sudden turnaround with regard to rb and TMCK was very odd but apart from that I find it hard to take issue with his posting. So yeah, slight town lean.

Is it bad that I want to TR rb just because of how genuine his frustration feels

Hi, I read up. I'm not the firefighter. Rb, I think is definitely town though from his not believing.

I think this makes it as easy as Bu and Persivul, like I said before.

VOTE: Bujaber

Feel like bringing these up

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I thought you were the third because I thought you should have realized that creature at the very least was scum and creature Alonso never seemed to want to Lynch you tbh

I didn't focus on creature but I suspected rb a lot. Called it out in rvs even

Alonzo I had as null with a lean scum coz he can obvtown but didn't

I realized that from inside the game.

I didn't closeread for #3 after I had the first 2

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Bringing up the random ass rb townreads that correlate to his being doused

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RB is so bad that he tried to gamethrow and probably didn't even succeed at that

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Vedith said I get hammer so I get hammer \o/

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At the risk of seeming LAMIST I'm not hammering anyone without egix showing up

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-conftown-

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I mean

I'm not sure what convinces me to vote buj right now

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Egix why was it so hard to townread me

I feel like fypov the choice between me and buja is obvious

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why did you take a middle ground position today when you locktowned me yesterday

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.......why?

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Ok....

You realize that TTTT lynch yesterday ends the game so it doesn't matter...

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Ok

VOTE: egix96

If you're town you're not even trying.

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I mean if you're scum you're not even trying either

But uh

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Wouldn't be overly surprised if this is wrong but you are impossible to not lynch with your play today alone

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Like if you're just a worthless townie in general and our MU game was representative rather than a blip then fine but I'm not actually townreading buja and I still find it difficult to contemplate not lynching you as a player who is generally good at sorting lynchbait.

If you're town here you should reconsider your playstyle

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Ok that's good

I thought I remembered people saying positive things about your town play and I'd have been annoyed if you double woated in games with me

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Sry about my replace in

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Town wins this setup

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And it didn't require an entire lobby of the strongest players of their era

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no

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I don't support changing rules to stop people being idiots

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Like I wouldn't play this game because town would try to policy me D1

But I wouldn't change the game because of it

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hi i'm rccc

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Pls don't BoP me next game when I don't lead on scum twice consecutively

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I wouldn't say the onus is on the mod to enforce that so much as I wish people would realise rolling over and being mislynched as town is bad.

the worst thing you can do as town is allow yourself to be mislynched.

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like

all the mislynches in this game were pretty stupid