Open 749 | Vengecop - Over!

[Dannflor]

lowkey worried if this is wrong that draco has been setting me up for a endgame lylo 1v1 all game, since that's the only scum I can see out of the remaining. But it's not likely at all and I'll just cross that bridge if it comes to it - or I'll just get invest and be IC for lylo anyway, scum probably wouldn't want to nk me at this point so I'm a safeish investigation

rlly doubt this is a town flip at this point tho

[Draco Lucky]

Meh. I’d probably pontificate more here if I thought there’d be another day.

Can we end this now? Worms play today has all been LAMIST.

-Slaxx

[xwing]

your wish is my command..
VOTE: dr worm

[Draco Lucky]

bangarang! do we win?

-U2

[xwing]

i really hope so, i dont want to be in lylo..i cant stand the pressure of choosing wrongly..
i wish PP and i exchanged places rn..he doesnt want IC but is fine in lylo..
im the opposite..i dont wanna be the IC in lylo but fine in other days..

[Dr Worm]

DR WORM was TROWN!!

[xwing]

@_@

[Dr Worm]

TRUE I DON"T LIE!!

[Draco Lucky]

then DR WORM should make his CHRECKK COOUNT

-U2

[northsidegal]

Votecount 4.Final

Target	Wagon
Dr Worm (3)	Draco Lucky (1005), Dannflor (1016), xwing (1052)
xwing (1)	BBMolla (971)
Not Voting (1)	Dr Worm

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch. Dr Worm has been lynched.

Mod Notes:

xwing is V/LA on weekends.

[northsidegal]

As expected, the drive-by shooting of PenguinPower in broad daylight had sent shockwaves throughout the city.

There was an immense outcry from the public, and pressure was put on Internal Affairs from the media and upper management both.

The Mafia had sent a strong message. Internal Affairs knew they had to send a similar one.

Despite multiple doubts and only circumstantial evidence, Dr Worm was detained and brought in for questioning.

Events were clearing coming to a head, and both sides of the law were getting desperate.

Dr Worm was lynched. He was a

Vengecop

.

Night 4 begins now and ends in

(expired on 2019-03-09 16:30:59)

.

Edit: Apologies, this might be delayed by ~1 hr.

(expired on 2019-03-09 17:30:59)

[northsidegal]

Internal Affairs couldn't get a confession out of Dr Worm.

What they did get from him, however, was testimony. He swore on his life, from all the years he had known him – BBmolla was an honest cop.

BBmolla is aligned with the

Town

.

Things had been so crazy lately.

Ever since the beginning of this whole Mafia controversy, people had been dying, being arrested and getting fired left right and center.

He knew that obviously things couldn't continue as they were with the corruption, but as he got into his car he wondered if it was even worth going to work in the morning.

His last thought before the bomb detonated was "Hm, engine's taking a while to turn over."

Draco Lucky was killed. They were a

Vengecop

.

Day 5 begins.

[northsidegal]

Votecount 5.1

Target	Wagon
-	-
Not Voting (3)	xwing, BBMolla, Dannflor

With 3 alive, it takes 2 to lynch. The Day 5 deadline is in (expired on 2019-03-19 17:37:59).

Mod Notes:

xwing is V/LA on weekends.

[BBmolla]

Are you fucking kidding me

Why would you clear me

[Dannflor]

vote: xwing

[Dannflor]

rlly wish I had been iced like worm said he would but whatev

Things are clear now

[Dannflor]

Tbh I’m low key intoxicated and not at home but I will real post in like 24 hours

B.B. I believe in you bby

[xwing]

VOTE: dannflor

worm why would you clear bb..shoulda investigated me or dann for sure win..
what's done is done though..
bb, you've suspected me for a while, but im not the last scum..
i broke my not posting on weekends for this.. @_@

[BBmolla]

Hit me with reasons why the other is scum

[xwing]

cliffnotes version: you're conf!town, i'm town, hence dann is scum.

[xwing]

dann played a good scum day, i only started majorly suspecting him at the latter parts, specifically during my post 880..in my iso you'll see im waffling on him a lot, as he's usually an easy town read for me..i thought he was sheeping/pocketing me early on (which, indeed he was..but hindsight is 20/20)..i think i should have trusted my instincts more..

look at his posturing before the end of the day, shading draco slot in case i got copped..guy knows how to cover his bases well..
also im biased coz i now know he's scum, but his "drunken" last posts sound so LAMIST to me..with the "i shoulda been copped" and "i believe in you bb"..to borrow PP's words..YUCK..

almost all the rest of the players got me as town, except you and half of draco..that's why im here..

[Dannflor]

dann played a good scum day, i only started majorly suspecting him at the latter parts, specifically during my post 880..in my iso you'll see im waffling on him a lot, as he's usually an easy town read for me..i thought he was sheeping/pocketing me early on (which, indeed he was..but hindsight is 20/20)..i think i should have trusted my instincts more..

lol

I played a good town game. Ok, maybe not perfect because I didn't obv town as much as I could have early on, but I attribute that mostly to lack of time that coincided with this game. The fact that I lowkey suspected all three members of the scum team D1 has me feeling really good though

I ended up clearing you later, but that was mostly because of Slaxx's insistence that you were town. I trust him as a player and was fairly confident his slot was town so his read on you shook me.

Turns out my gut instinct was correct:

sorry micc, i didnt get what you're saying..
are you suggesting that we should have a consensus target on who we want to investigate?
scum would just kill that guy then right?
sorry didnt really get what you were saying even after multiple reads, can you kindly reword it for me?

@dr worm: what's your plan?

@creature, why is it a great start??

@bbmolla, why the self vote? you need some help there?
VOTE: bbmolla

This post pinged me hard at the very beginning of the game just because it was such a large departure from the meta I had on xwing.

For comparison, here is xwing's first post in the other game I've played with him where he was town:

Spoiler:

im here..not finding much to comment on atm..

Haschels tryharding reads town

i will agree for now..

It's too elaborate to fake

I mean it's not that hard. I have only played one game.

I'm not liking this hardcore defence of me. Feels a bit like trying way too hard to find townieness from what I said. As if he

knows

I'm town.

VOTE: Dannflor

i agree it seems like dann is *trying* to pocket, but his later posts seems fine..

I always believed that naked votes during RVS are Status quo for noob mafia

I naked vote in RVS frequently as either alignment. It's no big deal.

for me, naked votes are NAI this early too..

Gamma is null at best and slightly scummy for not following the game closely enough.
It's not the subject of the vote that I take issue with. It's that it's naked after Dann said he thinks scum are more inclined to post reasons with their votes than not.

@gamma ^
what do you think?

town!xwing on entrance is a lot less agenda driven, he's cautious and sends out feelers and frankly just fence sits. Furthermore, town!xwing was extremely hesitant to vote and didn't even place down his first vote until post #198 in that game when he became more confident. Contrast that to his entrance in this game, it's like night in day. Here he comes in much more aggressively hiding behind a guise of looking productive while asking (what I pointed out at the time to be) a lot of useless questions. Then he couples this empty aggression with a vote on the bbmolla wagon, despite the fact that town!xwing refused to vote until page 8 in Winter's Sacrifice due to having no strong scum reads. The play style and agenda behind entering the game is just so different

Granted, that's meta based off of one game, but it's what set me off on xwing at the start and I think I was right and Slaxx was just paranoid.

Also big lol at "

i only started majorly suspecting him at the latter parts

"

true, you start throwing shade at me as soon as I post my reads at the beginning of the day and realize there were several problems with your play. But your sudden shift to a scum read on me is based entirely off the fact that I called you a mixed read? Your logic was that I should be able to read you easily, but we've only played one other game together (Winter's Sacrifice). I called you out on this later, so you backed off here:

@dann: maaaaaaan i dunno anymore..your latest post seemed townie and i didnt feel any malice/shading behind it..i cant find something inconsistent or untrue there..i thought we've been in more games but maybe im just recalling wrongly zzzzz.. @_@

[Dannflor]

Right now xwing is trying really hard to get you to see me as having a "good scum game" instead of actually looking for possible mistakes in my play because he knows he's kinda in a hole after the last few days. If you look at his iso it's not to hard to see some of his more unnatural moves, particularly his shifting read on me. When compared with his town play it feels very different. + his associatives are terrible (some reasoning for this is in my post #809)

[Dannflor]

look at his posturing before the end of the day, shading draco slot in case i got copped..guy knows how to cover his bases well..

This doesn't even make sense. Based on Dr Worms reads, he was never going to investigate BB or xwing (at least that's what he outwardly expressed). His doubts laid on me and Draco. Therefore, scum is forced into killing one of us. I got a little paranoid of Draco because if the game didn't end right there, I felt it was likely he'd been setting me up for a 1v1 with his constant shade towards me (again not due to me play but due to associations with Micc that he never explained)

Obviously my paranoia got the better of me there, but it doesn't really make sense for me to be shading Draco as scum there. If I'm scum, I'm forced into pocketing him. Based on Worm's reads, there was a pretty good chance Worm would investigate either me or Draco. If I was scum, I'd know the game was over if I was investigated, which meant I would have had to play for the scenario where Draco is investigated. Why the hell would I be trying to antagonize a likely IC as scum in lylo??

[Dannflor]

also im biased coz i now know he's scum,

but his "drunken" last posts sound so LAMIST to me..with the "i shoulda been copped"

and "i believe in you bb"..to borrow PP's words..YUCK..

worm why would you clear bb..shoulda investigated me or dann for sure win..

Like I think you're actually just flinging shit and trying to get BB paranoid of me no matter what tactics you use

You were not in a great spot after the Junko flip. I ended up town reading you based on the weird behavior from Junko, but the flip did not put you in a good spot, and in fact made the U2 half of Draco suspect you very hard. You expected one of me or Draco to be investigated, and decided I'd be an easier lynch than Draco in lylo, particularly with Slaxx's suspicion of me this game and your "waffling" on me.