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Post Post #1450 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:14 pm

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kinda leaning scum is in

Enigma
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Will prob town read roster if Proffi flips scum. Kinda want to town read Bujaber but his and RCE's interactions have been really really weird.
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Post Post #1451 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:36 pm

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but lets just say that roster and Buj are town. That leaves us with both enigmas and one of flapjack or lyncan. Or maybe just RCE and both Flapjack and lycan.
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Post Post #1452 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:42 pm

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There's likely four scum though
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Post Post #1453 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:56 pm

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In post 1451, Nero Cain wrote:but lets just say that roster and Buj are town. That leaves us with both enigmas and one of flapjack or lyncan. Or maybe just RCE and both Flapjack and lycan.
so how did your read on me evolve to me potentially being scum?
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Post Post #1454 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:00 pm

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In post 1452, Creature wrote:There's likely four scum though
I know, I'm assuming that Profii flips scum here leaving 3 left.
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Post Post #1455 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:03 pm

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EOD1
Jibril
(9):
Emperor flippyNips
, RCEnigma, Sashaddin, Creature, profii, BuJaber, rosterfoster, 0verki11,
stan1ey

Vedith
(4): Nero Cain, Amor, Lycanfire, Enigma

D1 wagon:
Eyes without a face (6):
stan1ey
, Nero Cain, Enigma, RCEnigma, rosterfoster, profii
rosterfoster (3):
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, Eyes without a face, Sashaddin

EOD2
Emperor flippyNips
(8): Nero Cain, Creature, Eyes without a face, Succinct,
stan1ey
, Sashaddin, profii, Flapjack

D2 wagon
Creature (5): Amor, Enigma, Sashaddin, Lycanfire, profii
RCEnigma (4): 0verki11, BuJaber,
stan1ey
, RCEnigma

These are scum driven mislynches
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Post Post #1456 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:04 pm

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creature do me a favor pls
explain your tr on succinct for me
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Post Post #1457 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:08 pm

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In post 1453, Enigma wrote:
In post 1451, Nero Cain wrote:but lets just say that roster and Buj are town. That leaves us with both enigmas and one of flapjack or lyncan. Or maybe just RCE and both Flapjack and lycan.
so how did your read on me evolve to me potentially being scum?
Was I town reading you before? I don't even remember why. I was mostly going from Creatures list and making out the ones that im town reading. I do remember yesterday that you said something about not wanting to lynch RCE and if he's scum that could maybe be a link between you two.
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Post Post #1458 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:09 pm

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In post 1455, Enigma wrote:These are scum driven mislynches
sure but that's vague, can you be more specific about who the scum are that are driving these wagons?
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Post Post #1459 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:19 pm

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In post 1456, Enigma wrote:creature do me a favor pls
explain your tr on succinct for me
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Post Post #1460 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:25 pm

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RCEnigma
Flapjack
Lycanfire
profii????
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Post Post #1461 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:00 pm

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In post 1455, Enigma wrote:EOD1
Jibril
(9):
Emperor flippyNips
, RCEnigma, Sashaddin, Creature, profii, BuJaber, rosterfoster, 0verki11,
stan1ey

Vedith
(4): Nero Cain, Amor, Lycanfire, Enigma

D1 wagon:
Eyes without a face (6):
stan1ey
, Nero Cain, Enigma, RCEnigma, rosterfoster, profii
rosterfoster (3):
Vedith
, Eyes without a face, Sashaddin

EOD2
Emperor flippyNips
(8): Nero Cain, Creature, Eyes without a face, Succinct,
stan1ey
, Sashaddin, profii, Flapjack

D2 wagon
Creature (5): Amor, Enigma, Sashaddin, Lycanfire, profii
RCEnigma (4): 0verki11, BuJaber,
stan1ey
, RCEnigma

These are scum driven mislynches
Are you saying both jibrils wagon and Eyes wagon were scumdriven? Only my slot and Stanley are common votes on each day 1 wagon there and Stanley has flipped town with his partner on only one of those. I find it hard to believe scum avoid lynching eyes in favor of jibril.

I think this was part of the reason I made a connection between eyes and Bujaber in the first place.
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Post Post #1462 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:01 pm

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Oh and profii, I skipped over him on eyes wagon.
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Post Post #1463 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:14 pm

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profii is the only one on both miclynshes and my wagon too. He was alsp on Creature's on D2 and I kind of TR Creature now.

So unless someone can convince me otherwise I intend to vote profii as soon as everybody has checked in.
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Post Post #1464 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:52 pm

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In post 1461, RCEnigma wrote:I find it hard to believe scum avoid lynching eyes in favor of jibril.
I mean the eyes wagon was dying after myself and Enigma (there could be others, idk) voiced concern about the Eyes wagon going to fast. That is my sole reasoning for town reading him but in the back of my mind, there's a sliver of worry that he was just getting bussed. But let's just say he was town and his wagon was dying, why would scum continue to push a wagon that prob wasn't going to happen?
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Post Post #1465 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:11 pm

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In post 1462, RCEnigma wrote:Oh and profii, I skipped over him on eyes wagon.
And you being on both wagons doesn't give you pause about thinking that the same scum would vote for both wagons?
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Post Post #1466 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:12 pm

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Jibril/eyes
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Post Post #1467 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:14 pm

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Enigma's post is a fine start but we need to go back to before RCE started his pool of scum and compare it to after. Somebody intentionally left the pool I just don't remember who.
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Post Post #1468 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:32 pm

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In post 1455, Enigma wrote:EOD1
Jibril (9): Emperor flippyNips, RCEnigma, Sashaddin, Creature, profii, BuJaber, rosterfoster, 0verki11, stan1ey
In post 1455, Enigma wrote:EOD2
Emperor flippyNips (8): Nero Cain, Creature, Eyes without a face, Succinct, stan1ey, Sashaddin, profii, Flapjack
His pool is like literally the entire playlist (unless I'm misunderstanding something) except for himself and Lycan who were on neither of the two town mislynches. Scum intentionally avoiding town wagons so they look better?

The only players to be on both ML wagons were Creature, Profii, and Sasha. Stan too but he was town so its not like VCA is all that accurate.
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Post Post #1469 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:51 pm

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In post 821, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 811, Nero Cain wrote:follow up: you got your pet lynch and Vedith also fliped town so what does this say about me, Joges and RCE?
Not sure what it says about Joges honestly, you're probably town considering the flips.

I won't quote multiple posts but the one about Vedith claiming tpr by claiming not vt, same read here. Focusing on the wagon specifically I probably put Bujaber as town, roster as town, Nero town, emperor tentative town, Lycan is town regardless of the wagons for today.

So I'm running on the assumption that scum also took Vedith's claim at face value considering he was the nk. People that flipped from Vedith to Jibril {Roster, Bujaber, I'll include Nero and explain why in a bit} higher probability for town. It doesn't matter which wagon they push as scum since both are a mislynch. Vedith defense against roster ended with more voices siding with roster so I think it's something scum could have pushed to a Lynch. It's sort of a large enough group that it probably townspews those 3 slots.

Emporer pushing for jibril and sticking to it is also townie, to my knowledge his meta is lurky just in general. So it's an attention grab that I don't think Scum!Emporer goes for. I don't have a deep read on this slot though.

Nero was active EoD and counting down. Also inteded to hammer before Stanley sniped it. The counter argument here is that scum is fine with a no Lynch if Nero didn't want to be associated with the wagon but it raises too many questions the following day so I'll take his intent and add him to the jibril wagon making him another slot that flipped from Vedith to Jibril.

The slots that leaves are {creature, sashaddin, Profii, overkill, Stanley}

I'll get around to isoing and reading up after my shift. Initial thoughts are that Stanley is the most suspicious. Immediately points to the early voters without much to base it on. Calling out the number of scum on the wagon pings as weird too, possibly tmi. If Stanley is scum here I think it's probable there's a partner on the back end of the wagon.

Profii pings me for the nightkill, it's one he goes for as scum imo. I don't remember much of his day 1 to be honest, I wasn't super interested in the game.

I kind of have to defend my slot from the big bad Nero today though so I guess I'll get invested a bit more.

His pool is large so he tried to make it smaller by looking at the intersect.

That is fine by itself. But the problem is he did it during the same day, which means that any scum who read this could just say "I was voting Jibril, I will not vote for Flippy" and avoid being in RCE's pool.
Now that could either be RCE signalling to his buddies not to put themselves in the pool (no need to explain the WIFOM of doing this publicly), or he's town that gave away a critical part of the day 3 VCA.

It would have been really obvious if someome had voted flippy before the quoted RCE post above and then unvoted, but unfortunately only two people voting for flippy at that time: creature and stanley, and creature didn't unvote.

Also you saying I'm not doing anything this game is fucking rich coming from you creature. What have you done that you're actually proud of? You barely posted in day 1 and day 2 you chose to flip a coin instead of joining a wagon that would have actually been helpful to flip.
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Post Post #1470 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:53 pm

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In post 1465, BuJaber wrote:
In post 1462, RCEnigma wrote:Oh and profii, I skipped over him on eyes wagon.
And you being on both wagons doesn't give you pause about thinking that the same scum would vote for both wagons?
Disregard this I misunderstood what you said to Enigma
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Post Post #1471 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:21 pm

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Yeah yeah yeah, creature is town and Stanley flipped. Profii, overkill, sashaddin are the remaining slots and 2 of them townread me so, no regerts.
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Post Post #1472 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:23 pm

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In post 1464, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1461, RCEnigma wrote:I find it hard to believe scum avoid lynching eyes in favor of jibril.
I mean the eyes wagon was dying after myself and Enigma (there could be others, idk) voiced concern about the Eyes wagon going to fast. That is my sole reasoning for town reading him but in the back of my mind, there's a sliver of worry that he was just getting bussed. But let's just say he was town and his wagon was dying, why would scum continue to push a wagon that prob wasn't going to happen?
If he was also town then scum probably have the numbers to push either Lynch through but want to avoid voting together. Why is that?
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Post Post #1473 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:26 pm

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Well maybe not, sashaddin and Profii have been pretty inseparable.
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Post Post #1474 (ISO) » Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:37 pm

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In post 1471, RCEnigma wrote:Yeah yeah yeah, creature is town and Stanley flipped. Profii, overkill, sashaddin are the remaining slots and 2 of them townread me so, no regerts.
What's your point?
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