Mini Normal 2062: Erinnerungen (um game over)

Emperor flippyNips · Post Post #550 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:00 am

In post 546, Dr Easy Bake wrote:
In post 544, Emperor flippyNips wrote:Actually

UNVOTE:
Why are you unvoting Brother Sandal now?

He’s not worth it right now he can get sorted later. I don’t like that he’s not answering my question but posting but it’s fine he can die D2

Dr Easy Bake · Post Post #551 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:10 am

In post 550, Emperor flippyNips wrote:
In post 546, Dr Easy Bake wrote:
In post 544, Emperor flippyNips wrote:Actually

UNVOTE:
Why are you unvoting Brother Sandal now?

He’s not worth it right now he can get sorted later. I don’t like that he’s not answering my question but posting but it’s fine he can die D2

I don’t know dude, there’s no one else that gets a strong scum reading from most the people in this game. I really feel he should be the D1 lynch, if we’re wrong then we can deal with that later.

Chara · Post Post #552 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:19 am

VOTE: Scepticism
Burke could go either way for me right now.

Dr Easy Bake · Post Post #553 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:48 am

In post 552, Chara wrote:VOTE: Scepticism
Burke could go either way for me right now.

Why Scepticism?

u r a person 2 · Post Post #554 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:31 am

In post 20, Vedith wrote:Pers plays to the "book".

Is Persivul actually known for playing in a by-the-book manner as town?

u r a person 2 · Post Post #555 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:45 am

In post 96, Burkenstock wrote:Also persivul is screaming for his life over here.

Pers asked what this meant but never got an answer.

I'd still like to know

u r a person 2 · Post Post #556 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:56 am

In post 88, The Last Knight wrote:I just wanted to see how many times I could make him post in a row.

In retrospect, I really don't like the manner in which TLS disengages from his interaction with FL. Especially since FL is right that his read that FL was trying to gain towncred (pocket everyone) is incongruous with believing the mason claim. As town I don't understand the purpose. As scum, I'm wondering if it's kind of a shot across the bow. Something like, "I'm willing to take you on" with the hope that FL/others will assume that scum!TLS would be unlikely to start an early 1v1 with town!FL

In post 69, The Last Knight wrote:I just know not to take anything you say too seriously.

I find it anti-town to out your fellow Mason without them even having crumbed yet. Unless you two get your own thread and have talked about it, I don't like it. Especially since he says he's new.

So don't omgus me.

In post 70, The Last Knight wrote:
In post 68, Flavor Leaf wrote:How is it trying to pocket everyone when the immediate reaction for people after hearing it was to go after me?
Your intention isn't changed by the result. You meant to pocket and it backfired.

I'm not sure how this post plays into it. It seems to display the same lack of a grasp of when players are playing fast and loose with the truth, which could be genuine, I guess? If that's not the case then it reads as fake because with such a grasp, both lines of questioning seem unlikely to result in anything interesting. Both instances together could also be read as scum looking for a toe hold.

@FlavorLeaf

You took this second question entirely at face value in 131. Do you still read the question as genuine?

u r a person 2 · Post Post #557 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:56 am

In post 132, The Last Knight wrote:I just lacked the meta to catch the sarcasm. Thanks. I just needed that context.

In post 133, The Last Knight wrote:Okay, FL, give me your read on Burke and Nips

This follow up does strike me as townie tho

u r a person 2 · Post Post #558 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:59 am

In post 136, Burkenstock wrote:Don't certain roles get their own chats? I feel like people who probably talked early but then haven't been participating are scum plotting their secrets. I could be wrong about this..

This is probably either town indicative - I've seen a few new players assume that scum PT's are high activity, whereas a new scum in a fairly quiet pt knows it isn't

or, if from scum, indicative of scum with at least one high activity player

u r a person 2 · Post Post #559 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:01 pm

In post 138, Flavor Leaf wrote:Just pointing it out there, FlippyNips definitely said this exact same thing the first time he was scum.

You're referencing the dumb tell aspect of the post (referenced in my previous post), right? Or did flippy also reference it in relation to scum colluding over some game aspect?

u r a person 2 · Post Post #560 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:03 pm

In post 141, The Last Knight wrote:Yeah Burke is probably scum

In post 261, The Last Knight wrote:Damnit, I am getting a lot of different vibes from Wilky.

On one hand, he's accusing everyone of being scum and seems eager to use the newbie Burke as a scapegoat.

On the other, I see the scatter voting as fairly town since town would only be able to guess anyway.

When and why did your read on Burke change?

u r a person 2 · Post Post #561 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:07 pm

In post 170, wilky wrote:Burk on the other hand is almost conf scum to me already for the slips of knowledge whilst trying to pull the newbie card.

Can you please go into further detail on what slips you were referencing, even if you no longer hold this read?

u r a person 2 · Post Post #562 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:11 pm

In post 195, The Last Knight wrote:
In post 182, Vedith wrote:
In post 175, The Last Knight wrote:I want to hear more from John Marv. He's pinging me as scum.
You should interact with them in that case. Or did you just want to look like proactive?
This is me interacting with John Marv.

What do you think of the flippyNips meta discussion, Vedith?

You seem pretty aggressive considering I am actually being productive in looking for slots that are pretty low on activity. If you iso Marv, you see his posts are pretty sus. At least, that's why I decided to say anything about him.

This whole post pings me super hard and I'm having trouble explaining why

u r a person 2 · Post Post #563 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:13 pm

In post 201, wilky wrote:Yup, most newbie games.

This seems blatantly fake. I'm not sure how I missed it.

Will I find a majority, or even a single newbie game in your history that help substantiate this claim?

u r a person 2 · Post Post #564 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:14 pm

In post 201, wilky wrote:
In post 194, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 185, Burkenstock wrote:I am getting a lot of hate from some bunnies and the like. I cannot tell if you are ignorant like me or are taking out a pick as mafia.. I wish I could reveal myself in some way but that's the curse of vt

Like...look at this.

Have you ever seen newb scum actually play it up this much, or is it more likely newb townie who thinks it’s funny to be scummy?
Yup, most newbie games.

oops meant to quote the post in full

Vedith · Post Post #565 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:15 pm

In post 552, Chara wrote:VOTE: Scepticism
Burke could go either way for me right now.

Vedith · Post Post #566 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:17 pm

In post 554, u r a person 2 wrote:Is Persivul actually known for playing in a by-the-book manner as town?

Yes.
He believes that as town everything should be done by X way.
Pers is going to be town here most certainly.

u r a person 2 · Post Post #567 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:19 pm

In post 233, Flavor Leaf wrote:Even Vedith and Creature are scummy to me right now, and I am notorious for town reading them when I shouldn’t.

Are you still feeling creature scum? I'm having trouble finding a single post to town read him by.

u r a person 2 · Post Post #568 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:29 pm

In post 261, The Last Knight wrote:Damnit, I am getting a lot of different vibes from Wilky.

On one hand, he's accusing everyone of being scum and seems eager to use the newbie Burke as a scapegoat.

On the other, I see the scatter voting as fairly town since town would only be able to guess anyway.

In post 267, wilky wrote:
In post 261, The Last Knight wrote:Damnit, I am getting a lot of different vibes from Wilky.

On one hand, he's accusing everyone of being scum and seems eager to use the newbie Burke as a scapegoat.

On the other, I see the scatter voting as fairly town since town would only be able to guess anyway.
I've accused two people of being scum. Both of those slots are still my biggest scumreads

[No response from TLK and no follow up from Wilky]

This exchange feels like it has at least one scum in it

u r a person 2 · Post Post #569 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:30 pm

In post 566, Vedith wrote:
In post 554, u r a person 2 wrote:Is Persivul actually known for playing in a by-the-book manner as town?
Yes.
He believes that as town everything should be done by X way.
Pers is going to be town here most certainly.

Good to know, thanks mate.

Whatcha got for reads again?

u r a person 2 · Post Post #570 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:33 pm

In post 302, Flavor Leaf wrote:So real talk, I think Easy Bake might be scum.

He has a lot of fluff posts, but he could just be new and not know how to case scum. He was pushing Burken a little while ago.

Unlike Burke, Dr Easy Bake wouldn’t be pulling the newbie card, though. This is his first game here as well.

I think he feels really relaxed for a new player struggling to figure out how to express his views on the game. In my lynch pool atm, for sure.

Creature · Post Post #571 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:39 pm

Hi Uranus

u r a person 2 · Post Post #572 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:47 pm

In post 361, The Last Knight wrote:
In post 344, Burkenstock wrote:
In post 343, L84Dnr wrote:Nothing quite like an OMGUS vote to make my day.

@Burke, what's your Mafia/Werewolf experience? Not just on this site but as a whole?
Yeah I think its a pretty good game.
Okay. Burke is maybe scum now. This is some cheeky shit.

In post 362, The Last Knight wrote:
In post 347, u r a person 2 wrote:also i can see town!burk better.

if burk is scum, tho, then his brother probably is, too
The thing is, he's sly enough to use newbiness to his advantage, but his questions so far have been either legitimate questions or blatant jokes. I feel like those posts are sincere.

And upon further thinking, Burke is probably fucking with L8, so I don't really think Burke is scum enough for me to vote him today.

This progression feels townie. Except for the fence-sitting in the very last sentence. So slightly townie overall... he said hedging in a post discussing someone fence-sitting.

u r a person 2 · Post Post #573 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:51 pm

In post 387, u r a person 2 wrote:It's more subtle than this, but the best way I can describe it is that the way he's playing mediator fits my understanding of town!FL.

I'd amend this to say mediator/tour guide, but yeah FL is still town

u r a person 2 · Post Post #574 (ISO) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:55 pm

In post 421, Dr Easy Bake wrote:
In post 418, Burkenstock wrote:I just felt that I do not know how to read him yet. Not sure why you're scumming over to me though.

In post 419, Burkenstock wrote:VOTE: EmperorflippyNips
Burkenstock is OMGUS voting again. I'm really getting a newbie scum read from him this entire game. I know he's not new to Mafia in general, but being new to the website can be enough to cause enough paranoia for this to happen.
UNVOTE: Flavor Leaf
VOTE: Burkenstock

Are you saying that you think that he's newb scum because he's paranoid, and that paranoia results in omgus votes?

Paranoid of what?