Official Pokémon Sun and Moon (S&M) Thread

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i really like the cat
i was about to wonder aloud why the fire starter is always the best

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litleo looks plain and forgettable

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litten seems like it'll be a dark (or ghost) secondary type which IS a bit boring since we have houndoom already
interesting that rowlet already has two types from the getgo

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inb4 people complain the game does something disrespectful to native cultures

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gosh that commercial is downright predatory

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what message is more commercialist than "you can have friends if you buy this thing"

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what a world what a world

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mmm
it was just a joke
but maybe im salty
i remember feeling left out a lot when i couldn't obtain games at the pace of other kids in the neighborhood
while obsessed with a particular game, they'd only play with others who had it

in related news, it looks like the 2ds is getting discounted soon
that'll be my opening to pick up the gen vi games

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not sure i understand your question
im saying that the 2ds will be cost less soon, facilitating my own engagement in the recent and upcoming generation of pokemon

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i love the rowlet evos!
incineroar is cool too!
primarina is fine, a bit like milotic, but rather boring
overall approval for these starters compared to other generations

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would you guys like me more if i got this game or like the same

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finally my chance to get on xreckonerx's gooder side

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waiting through the animations for the ORAS elite four was very very annoying

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really wish my character wouldn't black out when he loses
it just seems kind of melodramatic
let's go back to whiting out

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pokemon emerald was the best pokemon game, if only because of its battle frontier

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though i spose the gen iv frontier was about as good

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if you liked the gen 2 remake, then you liked gen 4

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dartrix seems to be the line going through an emo phase?

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i like incineroar but it seems only one step away from another fire/fighting starter

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don't really care about the typings as long as the designs are good
even if it is another fire/fighting!

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u mean

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Hell, I'll design it.

hey man no need to sour a good idea

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lol of all things that's your beef

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meh
i think ur just a hater

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im sorry but it's just so boring

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catching them all is too easy when the gts is fair game
a few weeks ago (over thanksgiving break?) i finished the hoenn pokedex in oras, and now the process seems so mechanical that i can't motivate myself to go on and finish the national
it feels like playing pokemon go

a lot of goals — their charm comes from wondering if you can really pull them off
when the process is laid out in front of you, in a manner that makes it simple, you really start to wonder if you'd be better off doing something more interesting

at least competitive is still hard

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she folds her arms?
how memeable

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but pseudolegendary already means something different from that...

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but yeah i get it
below mythical (ie event exclusive) and most legendary pokemon and above pseudolegendaries, there's a class of legendaries that are as rare as the standard legendary but less, er, distinguished by their base stats and/or lore

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though bulbapedia doesnt class type: null as a legendary
and it seems to evolve
does the thing breed?

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torchic

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well
do u have a 2ds or 3ds

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the mud horse reminds me of animal farm

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you give me such existential angst

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ultra!?!

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this popped up

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im so proud of u
and maybe even a little jealous

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do you think pokemon is as popular as ever

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lol when i was a kid i used to wonder why the people at these things were so old
now i get it

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I seem to have a robust interest in figuring out what would be the most systematic way to study a game like this one - specifically to find a battle strategy for the video games that's competitive against real people

One idea I had was iterations of bots that execute different battle strategies - defined with some explicit decision tree - that maybe I test at a place like Showdown. While this seems a decent approach for *testing* strategies, it seems a poor approach for strategy discovery, limiting me to just what I can imagine. Ideally I could pursue some kind of analytic approach, but it's tough to consider where one might start on that. Maybe I'm just not ready yet. Another possibility is consulting with regular players and experts and so on. But that defeats the point, and locks strategy to conventional wisdom, though requiring enough detail to support bot implementation and getting quantitative feedback through bot performance could be a decent corrective.

There's a way cognitive scientists come up with computational models of decision processes and maybe if I just get around to finding out how they do that, I'll have a better idea of what can be done here.

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Ideally it's the optimal strategy that humans can understand/apply, and that bots can test. Definitely not interested in a black box AI, but rather a verifiable model of high-quality play.

There's an image somewhere of a really simple decision tree that the pokemon blue battle AIs followed when you encountered them. I want a process for finding that given relevant facts about the metagame, except the decision tree is actually effective.

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was probably gonna throw it into randoms

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i keep getting bronze geodudes someone save me

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it's so cheap that it isn't worth it
also this is the wrong thread

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also have a nintendo switch thread!