Mini Normal 2062: Erinnerungen (um game over)

[u r a person 2]

yo flippy - I see you picked up smoking, too!

VOTE: Emperor FlippyNippy

[u r a person 2]

flippy feels a lot more loose than the two scum games I've seen him in

L84dnr legit feels like scum

VOTE: l84dnr

[u r a person 2]

Also the claim was the right decision to make, lets bin pers as town for now and find scum.

Agreed. He's either town or very ballsy scum. The latter seems unlikely, so he's on my town pile for now.

Policy lynch over humour? Seems a bit harsh, especially since a lot of players haven't chimed in yet.

you seem actually concerned over votes on you

like who actually cares if rvs votes are warranted.

just feels awkward in an early-scum-game kind of way

[u r a person 2]

Yeah, it's called random voting stage for a reason.

Sure RVS, but not NVS. Make up some transparently ridiculous reason for your vote at least. e.g.: "Is your avatar looking at me funny?"

meant to quote this one. the other post had nothing to do with it

[u r a person 2]

What am I supposed to do with that info, FL?

[u r a person 2]

I just wanted to see how many times I could make him post in a row.

=/

[u r a person 2]

This is the a scummiest image I've ever seen

I found a scummier one.


Also your bro is scummy af and im not sure why FL hasn't cast a vote there yet.

VOTE: burkenstock

[u r a person 2]

I'm with urap on this one. Burk has been playing the whole newbie act but has let slip a few times that he knows much more than her letting on.

VOTE: burkenstock

How do you feel about L84dnr?

[u r a person 2]

Is that why you won't vote, FL? Or do you already have a vote cast?

Here, let me ISO that for you =/

VOTE: U r a person 2

Smoker avatars unite

[u r a person 2]

Can I buddy you?

I think you're town.

@FL

[u r a person 2]

Nah, I can iso. I wanted to ask him directly.

Did you think he might try and hide or deny his current vote?

I didn't interfere in the first question, of course.

[u r a person 2]

For instance, me bringing up how scummy Burken was being made the momentum seemingly swinging towards Burken, as U R and Wilky have shown.

There’s probably a scum within the 2 of them, probably not both.

While I do think Burke would do this as scum, I don’t think he’s trying to hide that he knows how to play, he just doesn’t know the site meta. Makes him perfect mislynch bait.

I can't speak for Wilky, but I voted him as soon as I had a chance to sit down and catch up. He didn't need your help to get my vote ;P

[u r a person 2]

Makes him perfect mislynch bait.

could be, but I don't think so. He's pinged like 3 new-scum things for me at least, and only one new-town thing

new-scum
-claiming vt
-claiming newbiness
-there was another one

new-town
-exhibits paranoia over pretty nai comments

[u r a person 2]

Funniest part is, he said that after I said I have a weakness for buddying, which is why he made that post, but then I immediately stated I don’t think he’s scum.

So it worked then.

Gooood. Goood.

;P

[u r a person 2]

@FL I think you should let Burk speak for himself for a bit, mate

[u r a person 2]

@Burk we're seeing some fault lines develop. I'd love to hear your thoughts on any/all of me, wilky, vedith, l84dnr

[u r a person 2]

I am getting a lot of hate from some bunnies and the like. I cannot tell if you are ignorant like me or are taking out a pick as mafia.. I wish I could reveal myself in some way but that's the curse of vt

Like...look at this.

Have you ever seen newb scum actually play it up this much, or is it more likely newb townie who thinks it’s funny to be scummy?

NMSA in newbie 1915

[u r a person 2]

If it is true that there are 4 scum then that makes a big difference.

I get games can be tough to get into. Can you explain this part to me a little bit? Thanks mate

[u r a person 2]

Cool.

I'm an informed townie. There are 4 mafia in the game.

This

Right. I'm interested on what you think changes if there are 4 mafia. And also what the default is that there being 4 mafia requires a change from.

[u r a person 2]

I am not sure if 4 mafia makes a big difference but wilky and u r a person 2's interest in it is eerily scummy. Maybe I'm reading this wrong?

I mean, you were the one who said it would make a big difference. What did you mean, then?

[u r a person 2]

@FL what I said earlier about him not getting lynched right away even without your defending him

Well, I might have been wrong =/

[u r a person 2]

im the game

All of a sudden your play style makes perfect sense LOL

[u r a person 2]

@FL what I said earlier about him not getting lynched right away even without your defending him

Well, I might have been wrong =/

Yeah, I think he’s mislynch bait. I get the push on him, but I think that’s just the introduction to his personality.

He’s a cheeky one.

I was following that newbie game that just ended where you correctly identified Chen as town, so I don't want to dismiss your ability to identify lynch bait

But it's sooo scummy.

"eerily scummy" lol that post was like everything i look for in newb scum

[u r a person 2]

Can someone give me a quick diagram of who knows who in this game from outside of the MS website?

[u r a person 2]

thanks FL, that helps

[u r a person 2]

On one hand, he's accusing everyone of being scum and seems eager to use the newbie Burke as a scapegoat.

just to clarify, you grew up with the man, and you're saying this play from him is probably town, right?

[u r a person 2]

Cant have SK in 13p.
But when did FL become so helpful?

go read one of his newbie queue games

[u r a person 2]

They got rid of the IC position in newbie games, so I’m essentially considering this an IC game because newbs.

I dunno, maybe because I stuck my foot in my mouth answering for you, but this tracks strong for me

[u r a person 2]

Damn dude, way to make me look like weak and useless individual, only existing to be around you.

Might as well change your name to Michael Cohen

[u r a person 2]

Who’s scum?

I kind of want brother knight to give a confident town read on brother sandal and then if that happens I'm going to vote wilky

[u r a person 2]

No spelling and/or grammar issues will go unnoticed with me around.

Will you help me prep for the GMAT?

[u r a person 2]

On one hand, he's accusing everyone of being scum and seems eager to use the newbie Burke as a scapegoat.

just to clarify, you grew up with the man, and you're saying this play from him is probably town, right?

Who’s scum?

I kind of want brother knight to give a confident town read on brother sandal and then if that happens I'm going to vote wilky

@TLK

[u r a person 2]

VOTE: wilky

[u r a person 2]

Yeah its a tough call

why is it a tough call

[u r a person 2]

ok L84dnr can be town

[u r a person 2]

also i can see town!burk better.

if burk is scum, tho, then his brother probably is, too

[u r a person 2]

i mean, his mafia experience was already discussed, too.

The game isn't that long. Put down your cook book and read it ;P

[u r a person 2]

around right now if you've got thoughts on the game

[u r a person 2]

URA rolled Scum?

I wish =/

[u r a person 2]

Why? Do you prefer playing as scum?

I always hope I'll roll scum

[u r a person 2]

good talk.

[u r a person 2]

P.edit this also works as an answer for wilky

Well
I'm town reading to differing degrees
L84dnr
You
Persivul
FL
emperor flippynipps

and I'm sheeping TLK's town read on his brother.

But if brother sandal is scum, TLK probably is, too.

So I'd say you might want to look into anybody else?

[u r a person 2]

i mean you should do you, mate

he's pretty null to me. I don't remember how FL is reading tlk, but I'm probably going to sheep there until I get a real read

[u r a person 2]

It's more subtle than this, but the best way I can describe it is that the way he's playing mediator fits my understanding of town!FL.

[u r a person 2]

vedith are you scum reading l84dr

[u r a person 2]

By the way, I have a tin foil theory that I need to flesh out a bit with ISO's and time. It may have to wait until D2 but I am becoming skeptical of a couple people here. Waiting to see what they do today and how they interact.

So you're saying you're sorting people. understood. =/

[u r a person 2]

By the way, I have a tin foil theory that I need to flesh out a bit with ISO's and time. It may have to wait until D2 but I am becoming skeptical of a couple people here. Waiting to see what they do today and how they interact.

So you're saying you're sorting people. understood. =/

QFT.

Work ended up being a lot more stressful and tiring than I planned to day so I'm off to sleep and will put a proper post up in the morning

either we're of one mind a lot this game or you're fucking with me

[u r a person 2]

i think both of the brothers are scum, tbh

thoughts on that Dr Easy Bake?

[u r a person 2]

and the other brother?

[u r a person 2]

oh

hah

yellow is prob scum, huh? not like him to avoid a game i don't think?

VOTE: yello

[u r a person 2]

how is everyone enjoying their sunday?

[u r a person 2]

im here

snow is scum probs

[u r a person 2]

oh wait i thought he had been online more than he actually has

maybe nm

[u r a person 2]

yeah somehow last time i looked i thought he had been posting elsewhere for like 3 days without posting here but didn't happen

[u r a person 2]

So you were either successful in buddying me, or whatever it is that means you were successful in getting me to see that you are town.

don't beat yourself up about it, now.

getting town read as town is all im really good at it seems

[u r a person 2]

i want to kick start this game, but I think we need the replacements first. =/

[u r a person 2]

welcome to you both

[u r a person 2]

These posts are probably good to read first for context on the game as a whole

Spoiler:

Can someone give me a quick diagram of who knows who in this game from outside of the MS website?

Allow me.

I know TLK, Burkenstock, Dr Easy Bake, and Emperor FlippyNips.

I met Dr Easy Bake 5-6 years ago, he now lives across the country, and I met FlippyNips separately from that. However, we’ve played on our Xbox’s together for about a year now.

I worked with TLK for about 8 months last year, and he’s hung out in group hangouts a couple times with FlippyNips. Not too much, though.

I met Burkenstock through TLK, because they’re brothers, and since Apex Legends came out, we mix and match play that with flippyNips, Dr Easy Bake, and Burkenstock, so they only know each other slightly.

TLK has heard stories about Dr Easy Bake and vice versa, but they’ve never even talked to each other.

I downplayed my connection to FlipNips. We worked together on film sets for about 3 and a half years now, met both of our first weeks, and then i moved down the street from him after living an hour and a half away, so I feel comfortable in hyper analyzing him.

Dr Easy Bake and I have a different relationship.

He is my number 1 fan, but I am also the bane of his existence.
I also get a sick, twisted pleasure of gaslighting him.

[u r a person 2]

@scepticism

why does wilky feel scummy to you?

[u r a person 2]

Duh that's the way I play

Interactions come first, then reads when I feel good enough

I dunno, I just read through your iso, myself

and I think 2 meaningful questions might be generous

My understanding is that if you're not contributing, you're scum.

VOTE: creature

[u r a person 2]

Is there any way to like kickstart this thing? 12 days is such a looooong day cycle! I’m ready to get this day one lynching out of the way and get some new info. I’m ready to get scummy Brother Sandal out of the mix.

I'm swamped with work right this sec but I'm gonna try and get conversation going tonight

[u r a person 2]

Pers plays to the "book".

Is Persivul actually known for playing in a by-the-book manner as town?

[u r a person 2]

Also persivul is screaming for his life over here.

Pers asked what this meant but never got an answer.

I'd still like to know

[u r a person 2]

I just wanted to see how many times I could make him post in a row.

In retrospect, I really don't like the manner in which TLS disengages from his interaction with FL. Especially since FL is right that his read that FL was trying to gain towncred (pocket everyone) is incongruous with believing the mason claim. As town I don't understand the purpose. As scum, I'm wondering if it's kind of a shot across the bow. Something like, "I'm willing to take you on" with the hope that FL/others will assume that scum!TLS would be unlikely to start an early 1v1 with town!FL

I just know not to take anything you say too seriously.

I find it anti-town to out your fellow Mason without them even having crumbed yet. Unless you two get your own thread and have talked about it, I don't like it. Especially since he says he's new.

So don't omgus me.

How is it trying to pocket everyone when the immediate reaction for people after hearing it was to go after me?

Your intention isn't changed by the result. You meant to pocket and it backfired.

I'm not sure how this post plays into it. It seems to display the same lack of a grasp of when players are playing fast and loose with the truth, which could be genuine, I guess? If that's not the case then it reads as fake because with such a grasp, both lines of questioning seem unlikely to result in anything interesting. Both instances together could also be read as scum looking for a toe hold.

@FlavorLeaf

You took this second question entirely at face value in 131. Do you still read the question as genuine?

[u r a person 2]

I just lacked the meta to catch the sarcasm. Thanks. I just needed that context.

Okay, FL, give me your read on Burke and Nips

This follow up does strike me as townie tho

[u r a person 2]

Don't certain roles get their own chats? I feel like people who probably talked early but then haven't been participating are scum plotting their secrets. I could be wrong about this..

This is probably either town indicative - I've seen a few new players assume that scum PT's are high activity, whereas a new scum in a fairly quiet pt knows it isn't

or, if from scum, indicative of scum with at least one high activity player

[u r a person 2]

Just pointing it out there, FlippyNips definitely said this exact same thing the first time he was scum.

You're referencing the dumb tell aspect of the post (referenced in my previous post), right? Or did flippy also reference it in relation to scum colluding over some game aspect?

[u r a person 2]

Yeah Burke is probably scum

Damnit, I am getting a lot of different vibes from Wilky.

On one hand, he's accusing everyone of being scum and seems eager to use the newbie Burke as a scapegoat.

On the other, I see the scatter voting as fairly town since town would only be able to guess anyway.

When and why did your read on Burke change?

[u r a person 2]

Burk on the other hand is almost conf scum to me already for the slips of knowledge whilst trying to pull the newbie card.

Can you please go into further detail on what slips you were referencing, even if you no longer hold this read?

[u r a person 2]

I want to hear more from John Marv. He's pinging me as scum.

You should interact with them in that case. Or did you just want to look like proactive?

This is me interacting with John Marv.

What do you think of the flippyNips meta discussion, Vedith?

You seem pretty aggressive considering I am actually being productive in looking for slots that are pretty low on activity. If you iso Marv, you see his posts are pretty sus. At least, that's why I decided to say anything about him.

This whole post pings me super hard and I'm having trouble explaining why

[u r a person 2]

Yup, most newbie games.

This seems blatantly fake. I'm not sure how I missed it.

Will I find a majority, or even a single newbie game in your history that help substantiate this claim?

[u r a person 2]

I am getting a lot of hate from some bunnies and the like. I cannot tell if you are ignorant like me or are taking out a pick as mafia.. I wish I could reveal myself in some way but that's the curse of vt

Like...look at this.

Have you ever seen newb scum actually play it up this much, or is it more likely newb townie who thinks it’s funny to be scummy?

Yup, most newbie games.

oops meant to quote the post in full

[u r a person 2]

Even Vedith and Creature are scummy to me right now, and I am notorious for town reading them when I shouldn’t.

Are you still feeling creature scum? I'm having trouble finding a single post to town read him by.

[u r a person 2]

Damnit, I am getting a lot of different vibes from Wilky.

On one hand, he's accusing everyone of being scum and seems eager to use the newbie Burke as a scapegoat.

On the other, I see the scatter voting as fairly town since town would only be able to guess anyway.

Damnit, I am getting a lot of different vibes from Wilky.

On one hand, he's accusing everyone of being scum and seems eager to use the newbie Burke as a scapegoat.

On the other, I see the scatter voting as fairly town since town would only be able to guess anyway.

I've accused two people of being scum. Both of those slots are still my biggest scumreads

[No response from TLK and no follow up from Wilky]

This exchange feels like it has at least one scum in it

[u r a person 2]

Is Persivul actually known for playing in a by-the-book manner as town?

Yes.
He believes that as town everything should be done by X way.
Pers is going to be town here most certainly.

Good to know, thanks mate.

Whatcha got for reads again?

[u r a person 2]

So real talk, I think Easy Bake might be scum.

He has a lot of fluff posts, but he could just be new and not know how to case scum. He was pushing Burken a little while ago.

Unlike Burke, Dr Easy Bake wouldn’t be pulling the newbie card, though. This is his first game here as well.

I think he feels really relaxed for a new player struggling to figure out how to express his views on the game. In my lynch pool atm, for sure.

[u r a person 2]

Nothing quite like an OMGUS vote to make my day.

@Burke, what's your Mafia/Werewolf experience? Not just on this site but as a whole?

Yeah I think its a pretty good game.

Okay. Burke is maybe scum now. This is some cheeky shit.

also i can see town!burk better.

if burk is scum, tho, then his brother probably is, too

The thing is, he's sly enough to use newbiness to his advantage, but his questions so far have been either legitimate questions or blatant jokes. I feel like those posts are sincere.

And upon further thinking, Burke is probably fucking with L8, so I don't really think Burke is scum enough for me to vote him today.

This progression feels townie. Except for the fence-sitting in the very last sentence. So slightly townie overall... he said hedging in a post discussing someone fence-sitting.

[u r a person 2]

It's more subtle than this, but the best way I can describe it is that the way he's playing mediator fits my understanding of town!FL.

I'd amend this to say mediator/tour guide, but yeah FL is still town

[u r a person 2]

I just felt that I do not know how to read him yet. Not sure why you're scumming over to me though.

VOTE: EmperorflippyNips

Burkenstock is OMGUS voting again. I'm really getting a newbie scum read from him this entire game. I know he's not new to Mafia in general, but being new to the website can be enough to cause enough paranoia for this to happen.
UNVOTE: Flavor Leaf
VOTE: Burkenstock

Are you saying that you think that he's newb scum because he's paranoid, and that paranoia results in omgus votes?

Paranoid of what?

[u r a person 2]

Hi Uranus

Got reads?

or thoughts on any of the things I've posted just now?

[u r a person 2]

Tin foil theory, there’s 1 scum in the brothers, and 1 scum in the Flippy Bakes team.

I think you're right on the brothers, and I think it is TLK.

I think you're right on {flippy, DEB} but I wouldn't be too shocked if it were two. I've lost a bit of my flippy read. If it is one, I think it's Deb.

I think there is also at least one in {wilky, TLK}

I think creature is just scum


I think FL, Vedith, L8, Pers are all probably town

And I'm null on the two replacements but by poe I don't think I want to lynch either today.

[u r a person 2]

Okay, that's all I'm doing right now

@Chara and Scepticism - I'd really appreciate it if the two of you could give some thoughts on some of what I've posted

[u r a person 2]

the brothers are the last knight and burke

[u r a person 2]

I can't get reads unless I interact with someone in realtime (and they don't keep calling me scum/complaining about me not having reads)

I've just posted like a page of content. Pick something and let's talk about it.

[u r a person 2]

What about two?

could have 2.
probably doesn't have more than that, tho

[u r a person 2]

What about two?

could have 2.
probably doesn't have more than that, tho

Maybe there is. Who knows.

well there are only two of them in the exchange

[u r a person 2]

So, TLK, do you think we should lynch Debbie?

[u r a person 2]

some guy

pretty sure some guy referred to me.

maybe we should all tone down the nicknames juuust a tad for the sake of comprehension ;P

[u r a person 2]

Yes, when I said "some guy buddy-ing up to the most influential dude" I was talking about DEB trying to get in FL's pocket. Assuming they aren't just both on the scum team.

oh then it was me that misread it, my b. I thought you were giving two separate thoughts there

[u r a person 2]

Now I think Nurse Hard Boil and Bland Branch could scum together. Or it's some guy trying to score points with the most influential dude in the game.

okay, so here you were saying that Dr Easy Bake might be trying to pocket Flavor Leaf and is doing so by town reading them.

Do I have it right, now?

[u r a person 2]

Since we're discussing FL and Burke, I just want to put it out there that there is not really a world in which both of these are scum.

FL probably doesn't defend his partner early the way he defended burke early here.

FL also probably doesn't act passively like this while a real push to lynch his partner builds. He might not hard defend him, but I think he does something to spice it up

very unlikely they are scum together.

now a scum FL might white knight town!burke for a little bit before backing off to watch him get mislynched anyway, but I think FL is town.

[u r a person 2]

@FL is this scum creature?

[u r a person 2]

(it's not like anyone would ever get me mislynched even if I wasn't entertaining you enough to get free pass)

what does this post mean?

sorry for being dumb

[u r a person 2]

[No response from TLK and no follow up from Wilky]

This exchange feels like it has at least one scum in it

i'd be more likely to vote TLK over wilky given the choice.

If we're not doing creature, this coupling is where I'm headed next.

Why TLK over wilky?

[u r a person 2]

Is there anyone else here who doesn't want to just lynch Burke D1?

hi! me

[u r a person 2]

do you agree with TLK scum?

yeah let's go there

VOTE: TLK

[u r a person 2]

wilky and I are double voters, mod confirmed

[u r a person 2]

wilky and I are double voters, mod confirmed

@mod sorry this was just a cheeky way of pointing out an error in the vc

[u r a person 2]

You know what this game needs? Less people not voting anywhere

Lucky for ya'll, there is a ton of room on the TLK wagon that I am conducting

Tickets are free, and the seats are comfy

[u r a person 2]

This is my corner, and you'll hawk your knock off goods somewhere else if you know what's good for you.

[u r a person 2]

Flips vs Burkenstock is interesting.

It doesn’t feel TvT, but I feel both are mislynch bait. But they’re the ones making the cases against each other. I’m gonna do some ISO’s later and try to see what angles scum are pushing from.

I think it's Flippy vs TLK (or I want it to be)

I really think this is town!flippy

[u r a person 2]

@bake You won’t be happy with the lynch when the day is done I’ll tell you that

Like, anything you say now is taken with a huge grain of salt. We’ve backed you into a corner. You’ll say anything to get out of it. You’re trying to pivot us to Scepticism and it won’t work out for you.

wow so open minded

[u r a person 2]

I believe U R A Person was the other person to jump on there way back when.

Yeah I scum read burke til he trolled the shit out of L8, which made me (i think) get a clearer picture both of town!burke and town!L8

[u r a person 2]

To think that scum isn’t in control of this game with probable 4 scum is kind of ridiculous, tbh.

yes

great reason why we should lynch tlk

which clearly has no support from the scum team. they don't even wanna consider it.

[u r a person 2]

If it comes down to it, I’m gonna go Burken over Flippy.

good choice, but how about TLK?

[u r a person 2]

Fucking hell. Y'all got me too damn hot right now. I can't function properly while y'all are lollygagging. I'm gonna need a real doctor if this keeps up.

this is why i don't even bother trying to get grammar right on here anymore

not worth. impossible task.

[u r a person 2]

@l8 I wasn’t ready for a lynch so I took my vote off of him we had so much time so I figured why not wait, I didn’t realize we had so many lynch-happy people In this game

Lynch happy? Its been like a week.

this feels like a break in character

[u r a person 2]

Truthfully if we lose a town during this wagoning process it wouldn't be the end of the world in my opinion. It's possible that the night kill could be blocked (no idea what the special role set up is) and then we are only one town down.

Is this technical bread crumbing?

hey hot take - if you think you see a pr crumb, keep it to yourself!

[u r a person 2]

I mean it wasn't impossible for me until I got heated over this wishy/washy lynch business.

You're right. This will be the only game that happens in. my b

[u r a person 2]

@FL

Has your read on Burke changed?

Or are you just throwing in the towel?

[u r a person 2]

my town read comes from the recognition that he is trying to troll and has kept it up almost entirely

from your town read on him

from his brother's town read on him

unless it's both brothers, that read is probably correct

but if you're about facing on him, that undercuts my read a bit. esp since im scum reading TLK

So if you have more thoughts on burke's alignment I'd love to hear em

[u r a person 2]

what's the vote count on burke

[u r a person 2]

okay everybody wants info let's get some info

VOTE: burke

[u r a person 2]

oh mate, you should probably read any town game listed in my wiki before making that case

because you've just described my town game

[u r a person 2]

VOTE COUNT 1 . 5

L84Dnr

-

wilky

- Scepticism, Shiidaji, Chara, Flavor Leaf

Vedith

-

Shiidaji

- L84Dnr, Burkenstock

Chara

-

Burkenstock

- Emperor flippyNips, Vedith, u r a person 2, Dr Easy Bake

(L-3)

The Last Knight

-

Dr Easy Bake

-

Flavor Leaf

-

u r a person 2

-

Emperor flippyNips

- The Last Knight, wilky

Scepticism

- Chara

Creature

-
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Not Voting

- Creature

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to Lynch

Deadline is in (expired on 2019-03-19 12:00:00)

this can't be right. I'm definitely a player in this game who is either voting or not voting. chara is listed twice

even dropping one of the chara votes, that's still 13 names on the board (and i'm not there) so there's at least one more error, but im not sure what it is

Should be good

[u r a person 2]

of course, why?

[u r a person 2]

thanks for the fix, zulffy

VOTE: wilky

[u r a person 2]

def your ego talking

[u r a person 2]

I'm also pretty eager to end the day. So I put him at L-1. If he's a vig, that's a big blow. But plenty of people tried not to get killed. If he was something we didn't want to lose, I wish he said something sooner.

Like when? There was no intent on me and an earlier came was unnecessary outing myself only made me mafia N1 target.

Burke is definitely scum I was the chosen counter wagon once traction was gained on him again.

You're scum too

ehhh i dunno. im losing my scum read on tlk. if one is scum, the other probably is tho

[u r a person 2]

it was a terrible hammer regardless of your alignment DEB.

simply poor play.

[u r a person 2]

it was a terrible hammer regardless of your alignment DEB.

simply poor play.

It's not a poor play until the official flip comes.

it is poor play regardless of your alignment or wilky's. I'm not trying to insult you, but you should grow from this. Ask your buddy FL. I have no doubt he will tell you this was bad bad bad

[u r a person 2]

But it looks like strong scum play to me, and that’s what’s sticking out for me the most right now.

yah it does

VOTE: shiijadi

[u r a person 2]

Marv's three little bitty posts give me happy feelings

please talk to me about this and about how scepticism's posts confirmed these thoughts for you

[u r a person 2]

@insomnia

Oooh, buddy, rolled scum this game, eh?

[u r a person 2]

Gut tells me this reaction comes from town. Do you agree?

Sure it could come from town. And your reason for town reading it seems thought out.

I'm not sure why it would be outside an average scum range, though.

But it looks like strong scum play to me, and that’s what’s sticking out for me the most right now.

yah it does

VOTE: shiijadi

You are voting an informed townie claim on day one, hope you realise what you're doing

Well, it's day 2, but yeah, I am fully cognizant of where my vote is!

Is that claim why you are are conf!towning them?

[u r a person 2]

@shiidaji what are your thoughts on Insomnia right now?

What are your thoughts on him considering you conf!town?

[u r a person 2]

Scum claims informed townie on first page? Bolded?

Explain to me why this seems so far-fetched to you, please. Maybe I'm missing something.

[u r a person 2]

Send me one scum game where Persivul claims anything as scum, bolded, on day one, on the first page and after you'll tell me you didn't find anything, convince me why he'd start doing it now.

VOTE: urap2

You're making my post seem scummy and you're trying to throw shade on me, when my read makes perfect sense

lol this is a ridiculous request

I'm simply asking you why you don't think it's likely. Are you saying that you went back and looked to see if he had claimed informed townie as scum, and that when you saw that he had not you decided to believe the claim based on meta?

Or do you believe that it would be a bad play for scum to make, generally?

Or is it something else?

[u r a person 2]

Not a bad play, but it puts you on the spotlight for sure. Plus, it makes sense he's conftown. He gave the information that town needed and then because he was sick and probably didn't feel like playing. I don't see scum replacing like that, especially because nobody was suspicious of him.

These are good posts, they don't ping scum to me. I don't get why an informed townie would wait. You have one job which is to send information . Informed townie, right? Why'd he keep that to himself, especially knowing he could be killed n1.

I'm not arguing that it wasn't correct for town!Pers to claim his information right away. If he is town, I think it was absolutely correct. But I'm also not seeing the downside of doing it as scum.

If I'm hearing you correctly, and please correct me if I'm wrong, you're town reading him because you don't think scum!persivul would put himself in the spotlight, because you town read his replace-out, and because his posts feel town-indicative to you.

That's a fair basis for a read, but I'm not sure why it makes you so confident in your read on him that when I didn't conf!town him, you threw a vote on me for it. I also don't understand what the post being in bold really has anything to do with the read, but you've brought it up a few times?

[u r a person 2]

Urap, do you have any reads on Chara?

Looking back, I think Chara's focus on creature was town-indicative.

I like their push onto TLK

I like their push off of Flippy

I like their questioning of Shiidaji's town read on your slot

Chara looks town af

[u r a person 2]

the thing I don't love most about chara's iso is the vote on wilky, but who am I to judge on that one?

[u r a person 2]

Oh another reason for a TR on chara is the night kill (I guess it doesn't have to be a night kill, but I doubt we have TWO vig or vig-type roles, so what did kill him if not nk?)

I don't think Chara is happy to let the night kill be creature since scum knew they were looking for a traitor.

What do you think about Chara, Insomnia?

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@insomnia

Oooh, buddy, rolled scum this game, eh?

talk about what pinged you here?

VOTE: TLK

Nothing had pinged me up until this post.

After this post I'm getting some pings. The pers read feels fake. Well, the read doesn't feel fake, but the reasoning and interaction with me around that read feel fake.

I could get on board with scum!tlk tho. I didn't like a lot of their iso d1 and I don't like them trying to link themselves at the hip with DEB

What are your thoughts on insomnia?

[u r a person 2]

URA is probably town

and what are your thoughts on insomnia? the player, not habitual sleeplessness.

[u r a person 2]

I'm not sure on Chara. They're pushing a scum agenda on Me/Creature/DEB on post 611 and then on 623 they clear DEB and their town read on my slot and on creature "gets better" after 623.

I'm not sure how to read them at the moment

because they claimed 2 scum in that post, but they ended up pushing a TLK scum agenda and clearing every single person on 611 (at least for the moment). They've also voted for Wilky despite not giving any sort of opinion on the slot.

That's why I'd like to ask @Chara if they have any more scum reads other than TLK at the moment. I am at a null right now on Chara, comfortable with my current town reads, they're the most obvious ones for me.

Everything bolded is IIOA (information instead of analysis), which in my experience often comes from scum. I get that from this you got a question from this, and that's good, but when you're done engaging with Chara I would like to see some analysis to turn this narrative into a read.

[u r a person 2]

Was you on Dinner Donner thing, URA?

Nope nope

[u r a person 2]

Okay, insomnia you want to use the

Spoiler:

tag instead of the

tag for stuff like that

[u r a person 2]

Okay, insomnia you want to use the [ spoiler=]tag instead of the [ spoiler]tag for stuff like that

I don't know how that works xD

when you made that big post you used the [ spoiler] tag, right? just put an equal sign in there.

if you're using the button in the reply page, it's one to the right of the "spoiler" tag.

spoiler tag:

This makes a black redacted style line and makes your multiquotes look awful. Also this is nearly impossible to use on mobile

spoiler= tag:

Spoiler: spoiled!

This makes one of these nifty boxes! anything you put after the equal will be the name of the spoiler. In this case, "spoiled!"

[u r a person 2]

I wouldn’t have caught Creature ever this game.

He’s my blindspot. Let’s try to NKA. Who kills Creature but doesn’t think he could be their traitor?

TLK, shiidaji, insomnia slots

but I'm only saying this because those are my top scum reads atm


ummm you by your own reasoning

probably not vedith, i know they've played together some at least

probably both brothers and DEB because I don't expect them to know much about creature

probably not chara

i don't know enough to speak on anyone else

[u r a person 2]

I can understand I am a scum read for you at the moment so you associate the NK with me. But I repped in day 2. Your analysis should be on Scept and not insomnia. I wasn't here day one.

so there was the top part of the post where I just gave my scum reads and then said these are just my scum reads

and then there is the second part where I gave an actual answer!

[u r a person 2]

I was insomnia’s alt reading him.

The flip, the Wilky wagon, his push on Shidaji yesterday, the Creature flip.

can you clarify this? I can't make heads or tails of what you're saying in the first line

[u r a person 2]

You'll have to be more explicit with dumb!me

but we're clear now right? or do you want me to rewrite the post?

[u r a person 2]

he was insomnia's alt, i don't see how that's confusing!

lol

[u r a person 2]

TLK fabricated his Wilkis scumread as an opportunistic vote when he noticed the town flow pushing towards a Wilkis lynch.

It's completely possible for your read on a player to shift over time. Flavor Leaf did on L8. It is however absurd to imagine that TLK thought Wilky was Town, then on a re-read confidently proclaimed Wilky as scum, with no new Wilkis posts to help change his mind.

Finally we'll take a look at his vote post in a second so I can talk about why it's scummy.

I also think TLK is scum, and this is probably scum indicative

But I dunno if it's absurd. I've done an about face on more than one occasion myself.

[u r a person 2]

TLK feels like self-conscious scum to me here and I will try to explain why. Despite originally townreading Wilky's ISO, then scumreading that same ISO now, TLK makes no mention of what changed his mind in the first place. What he liked before that he didn't like now. Instead, he makes incisive comments that have not been mentioned before in what feels like an effort to be original.

okay, this is a more compelling way of stating it for sure.

[u r a person 2]

Also, after TLK typed "wool over its eyes.", he thought it necessary to press enter, type "I'll vote there.", press enter AGAIN, and then vote Wilky. This doesn't feel like the TLK I was introduced to at the beginning of the game, it's self-conscious. I have personally found some newbie scum to be afraid of just outright sheeping or naked voting, especially those that have not established a "Creature"-like sense of quick posting. To them, it would seem out of character to just quick vote. Thus they overcompensate with posts like this.

as is this. if tlk is scum, you probably flip town, huh?

[u r a person 2]

So who's reading Burkenstock as town and why?

I'm reading him as slightly less scummy. He could just be n00b town. Still in my scum pile though.

Right now I'm favouring our sleepless friend. The reasoning behind his vote is rubbish and smells synthetic.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Insomnia

This is certainly a good vote

[u r a person 2]

~A TLK lynch will provide some information. His main interactions were with FL in the first posts of his. Scum don't usually talk with each other or ask each other questions that much, so if TLK flips scum, then FL is probably town, which would be of great help with my reads, since I find FL to be a hard read. If he flips town, then his read on Burk is legit and we get rid of an easy mislynch coming from scum and anyone pushing Burk would be automatically suspicious.

Interesting description of a tlk lynch. I think I would lynch him because he's probably scum more-so than for the information.

feels like a read on a partner's wagon

[u r a person 2]

~I advocate a L8 lynch because he's been pushing the same slots as TLK has, except for Flippy. They have both focused on scum hunting amongst lurkers (Scepticism / John Marv) and they have also both voted for FL, once again. So if one of them flips scum, the other has a high chance of being scum. If TLK flips scum, L8 becomes suspicious for trying to derail the wagon that Shidaji, an informed townie claim day 1 is trying to start on TLK. Another reason as to why I feel L8 is a good lynch is because, looking at his ISO I can see him being very reluctant when it comes to pushing anyone. He votes and then unvotes and doesn't insist on a lynch. Also, he was not on the wilky wagon, which I know sounds weird, but from my experience, scum don't hop on wagons day one because they think they get extra town points. Especially when they say stuff like:

if above is true, it spews l8 as town

[u r a person 2]

VOTE: TLK

This is a great lynch for today. If it flips scum, and I really think it will, it basically lock towns Shiidaji for me, which is good.

[u r a person 2]

~I advocate a L8 lynch because he's been pushing the same slots as TLK has, except for Flippy. They have both focused on scum hunting amongst lurkers (Scepticism / John Marv) and they have also both voted for FL, once again. So if one of them flips scum, the other has a high chance of being scum. If TLK flips scum, L8 becomes suspicious for trying to derail the wagon that Shidaji, an informed townie claim day 1 is trying to start on TLK. Another reason as to why I feel L8 is a good lynch is because, looking at his ISO I can see him being very reluctant when it comes to pushing anyone. He votes and then unvotes and doesn't insist on a lynch. Also, he was not on the wilky wagon, which I know sounds weird, but from my experience, scum don't hop on wagons day one because they think they get extra town points. Especially when they say stuff like:

if above is true, it spews l8 as town

Mind explaining how it does?

I meant the post above this post.

If you are scum

and if you are low key shading the tlk wagon by calling it a high-information lynch (which yes, seems like praise, but is really a back-handed compliment because if you thought tlk had high scum-equity on its own you would probably make that the highlight)

and then follow that up with a push on L8,then L8 is probably town.

Yes, it's pre-flip associations, but I think it's worth while to have out there.

[u r a person 2]

~I advocate a L8 lynch because he's been pushing the same slots as TLK has, except for Flippy. They have both focused on scum hunting amongst lurkers (Scepticism / John Marv) and they have also both voted for FL, once again. So if one of them flips scum, the other has a high chance of being scum. If TLK flips scum, L8 becomes suspicious for trying to derail the wagon that Shidaji, an informed townie claim day 1 is trying to start on TLK. Another reason as to why I feel L8 is a good lynch is because, looking at his ISO I can see him being very reluctant when it comes to pushing anyone. He votes and then unvotes and doesn't insist on a lynch. Also, he was not on the wilky wagon, which I know sounds weird, but from my experience, scum don't hop on wagons day one because they think they get extra town points. Especially when they say stuff like:

if above is true, it spews l8 as town

So to clarify,

If the conclusion in 1212 is correct, then the passage quoted in 1213 probably spews L8 as town

[u r a person 2]

Rereading this excerpt from Shiidaji's post helped me realize what exactly was being said, and it just sounds like such a reach. I finished a paragraph and gave space to vote because votes are significant enough to get their own paragraph, in my opinion.

I press the enter key to organize my thoughts better. I think I have breaks in almost all my posts longer than two sentences. Its just how I type, since I basically learned to type on osrs and wow. Not to mention any form of instant messaging, the basis for most communication for almost everyone, requires constant "enter" key spam. It's simply not AI.

yeah, I would have focused more on the "I'll vote there" then on the use of line breaks, but his conclusion is solid, imo

[u r a person 2]

Semantics. I guess posting Shiidaji's scumslip in Bolded Yellow wasn't enough push.

I must have missed the scum slip entirely. quote the post?

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Gotta say though, Insomnia, you do post a lot more and have good logic from what I can see. You have a tough legacy to live up to though. I want to like you but I don't think you can scum your way out of this, if that is the case. I have to take everyone one of your posts into account along with the seven or so left over from your predecessors.

I don't understand this. What legacy does he have to live up to?

What can't he scum his way out of? The post you quoted?

[u r a person 2]

Although, that's because it's true, for your posts do seem scummy leading up to this point.

Not trying to be a dick but in this post you seem to be saying you think Insomnia's posts look scummy, but then in the below quote you seem to be saying that you're scum reading his predecessors.

Since I'm scum reading both of you and predisposed to view this as an effort to distance yourselves, could you please walk me through where your read is coming from?

Maybe quote a couple posts that seem townie and why and the posts that formed your scum read?

[u r a person 2]

sorry, this was supposed to be the "below post" that I was referencing:

The legacy of John Marv and Scepticism being scummy af.

And I mean that he sounds town, but that's just because he might be good scum.

So I'm saying that even if he is good at scum, the people he had to sub in for screwed him over.

[u r a person 2]

Yeah, sure, just a sec. I'm sure there's something.

Mainly, I just wanted to like him because he was posting. I lost track of who replaced who and then put it all in context, hence the post about putting it in perspective with the other two before him.

But give me a sec and I'll find something that I liked too.

Is 1240 the follow-up to this?

If not, what happened to this?

[u r a person 2]

@chara What do you think about him basically contradicting that post in the next post?

[u r a person 2]

i see what.. might be viewed as a contradiction, but it doesn't look like one when i think about it.
he's saying insomnia makes posts that sound towny, an indicator of good scum, but which won't be enough to overwrite the scummy behaviour of previous slots. and that it looks like he's trying too hard for towncred, and using Shiidaji slot for towncred.

am i misunderstanding/missing something?

The whole read feels wrong to me because the first two slots didn't post much, and none of it was a blatant scum claim, right? Heck, the scummiest thing about the first two slots to me is the lurking and the replace outs. And neither of those is super scummy on its own, right?

So now we've got this high activity poster in the slot, and my instinct - and i think a town instinct - would be to form a read off of the new content.

But in previous posts he says that he thought insomnia's posts were townie, but is still giving more credit to the lurk outs of the predecessors?

And the progression is weird where he thinks the posts are townie, but he can't outlive the predecessors, but he also finds insomnia's posts scummy and... it just doesn't sound like an actual thought process.

And I wish I hadn't asked you before finishing with TLK because he basically just took the out, but I get ansy =/

[u r a person 2]

That was technically the follow up, yeah.

Those are bits that you found townie from insomnia, right?

[u r a person 2]

And I wish I hadn't asked you before finishing with TLK because he basically just took the out, but I get ansy =/

i had thought about waiting to answer because it might give him an out, but... everything i said was just a summary of what TLK had already said, so i don't think there was an out to take.

and i was also scumreading Scept, so the read doesn't exactly surprise me. scumreading lurky/wooden content isn't especially odd from TLK, i think.

yeah that's fair. I might be a little tunneled here. It's just that all game I've been getting the same scummy vibes from TLK as from his brother, just without the troll-aspect that makes me think burke could be town.

As either alignment, TLK is doing exactly what I would advise town to do when under pressure, and that is a point in favor of town!tlk.

[u r a person 2]

That was technically the follow up, yeah.

Those are bits that you found townie from insomnia, right?

Okay, so it seems like you're trying to get me to say that Insomnia looking into my iso makes him townie.

No, that's not what I'm saying.

I simply saw he was looking into me, asked someone else about me, and then asked me for my read on someone else. All of this, without posting his read on me. I just got curious what the result was.

And then never found a post to quote that I liked. It was more of the tone and the volume of posting. But that's about it. The content itself just comes off pretty scummy now that I have come to that conclusion.

Specifically though, the stuff about how he calls himself out for being scummy can be seen as town, but in full context he seems scum.

I really wasn't trying to set you up. It didn't seem like they were posts you liked, which is why I asked if it was the follow-up. It didn't seem like it was. The bolded is reasonable.

[u r a person 2]

L84Dnr - Insomnia (1199)
The Last Knight - Shiidaji (1001), Chara (1087), U R A Person 2 (1214)
Insomnia - L84DNR (1176), TLK (1231)

Not voting: Flippynips, Vedith, Burkenstock, DEB, Flavor Leaf,



Here's an

unofficial

vote count.

Chara, I know I only asked you about like one post from TLK, but where does your read as a whole fall atm? town or scum

[u r a person 2]

town, now.
i thought he was pretty scummy earlier, but this day i think his posting has really picked up.

I got that impression, I just had noticed you were still voting there.

[u r a person 2]

@TLK I'm looking forward to seeing whatcha got tonight

@Shiidaji What do you think about TLK these last few pages?

[u r a person 2]

But I never understood why Burke and I had to be lumped together. It feels like you're only saying it because we're brothers (something that I think should be avoided imo). I don't think I missed you saying anything about why this is a causality argument, so if you could explain what you mean that'd be great.

This is my main gripe with you.

Well, right or wrong, the thinking is that you've probably been lied to your face by Burke more than anyone in the game, and if you end up town reading scum!burke - especially when burke is playing a trolly style like this - you're probably scum.

and i did mention it somewhere. Something about you growing up with the guy.

Do you think this is a fair expectation of you?

[u r a person 2]

order is irrelevant. Town are people I'm probably never voting.

Town
L84Dnr
Flavor Leaf
Vedith
Chara

Not town
Burkenstock
The Last Knight
Shiidaji
Insomnia
Dr Easy Bake
Emperor flippyNips

[u r a person 2]

order is irrelevant. Town are people I'm probably never voting.

Town
L84Dnr
Flavor Leaf
Vedith
Chara

Not town
Burkenstock
The Last Knight
Shiidaji
Insomnia
Dr Easy Bake
Emperor flippyNips

just looked at this again.

insomnia should have been in the town pool

[u r a person 2]

order is irrelevant. Town are people I'm probably never voting.

Town
L84Dnr
Flavor Leaf
Vedith
Chara

Not town
Burkenstock
The Last Knight
Shiidaji
Insomnia
Dr Easy Bake
Emperor flippyNips

just looked at this again.

insomnia should have been in the town pool

nm wrong game. still a scum read here

[u r a person 2]

order is irrelevant. Town are people I'm probably never voting.

Town
L84Dnr
Flavor Leaf
Vedith
Chara

Not town
Burkenstock
The Last Knight
Shiidaji
Insomnia
Dr Easy Bake
Emperor flippyNips

just looked at this again.

insomnia should have been in the town pool

nm wrong game. still a scum read here

Which game though?

I think it would be against site rules to answer =/ Might have even been against rules to say "wrong game" but what's done is done.

[u r a person 2]

yeah FL meant that the order within the tiers wasn't relevant, but the tiers themselves were. It's a fairly standard thing on this site, so don't feel bad about missing it.

VOTE: insomnia

Insomnia is still hitting the notes for what I understand to be his scum game. can figure out tlk later

[u r a person 2]

hey ura you're not scum with TLK right?

nope he's not my partner

[u r a person 2]

oooh spicy

[u r a person 2]

makes more sense why you made a vote count - i like it

[u r a person 2]

UNVOTE: Insomnia

I don’t even scum read the guy.

Scums on the wagon.

do you have a read on him at all?

[u r a person 2]

VOTE: Vedith

why

[u r a person 2]

I see what you're saying Chara, but I dunno, I kind of think that reversal - especially considering it's a sheep of a town read - is within vedith's town range.

If we're not doing Insomnia today, I'd prefer TLK still I think

VOTE: TLK

But Insomnia does need to be lynched at some point.

[u r a person 2]

I repped in at the beginning of the day, but whatever, I’ll just wait to get at L-1 and then claim because people don’t listen to me even if I make scum cases, like ever

Where are you at, mate? Lurking out doesn't feel like the Insomnia I've come to enjoy playing with =/

[u r a person 2]

However, your post on me looks like a crappy excuse to move the wagons.

says the guy who presented as trying to hammer a slot and then immediately called that slot town =/

I've had a town read on you all game, could you explain what happened there?

[u r a person 2]

okay, makes sense, but then you called him town, which doesn't make sense. whatever, you claim pr, and I didn't want to lynch you anyway

how about we lynch TLK?

[u r a person 2]

Like, I'm pretty confident in scum!insomnia. When he's scum there is a disconnect between his thought processes and mine that I just can't bridge. The logic he uses just repels me, and it's actually difficult for me to read it. I dunno if that makes sense. I'm still trying to put it into words.

But you don't wanna do insomnia, let's do TLK, ya?

[u r a person 2]

I feel like they’re both town.

gross

[u r a person 2]

Nah. It’s gross that people don’t think this, tbh, but then I realize people just cant analyze as well as I can. Their wagons look exactly like scum keeping the wagons even, which kinda incriminates Vedith a little bit for me.

Wagon analysis is kinda one of my things.

Yes, this post was meant to shade people. No one in particular, though.

Do you town read them by their play at all?

[u r a person 2]

You really don't come off as pissed off, imo. You read to me like you're having fun making these posts.

[u r a person 2]

L8 looks to me like he's doing what he knows how to do to progress the game. Vote somebody to make them post.

I agree, both TLK and insomnia read scummy.

Let's lynch one of them.

[u r a person 2]

Idk why you’re trying to convince me

Frankly, I've been questioning my read on you since your dramatic display and push off of the insomnia wagon, and this whole bravado thing is stoking that paranoia. I was hoping you'd reconsider because I'm wondering if this isn't a way of getting the spotlight off of a partner

[u r a person 2]

Could be. I’d make a better case if that were the scenario.

I’ve semi thought you’ve been trying to pocket me all game, though.

Great, so let's lynch scum and rekindle our love

[u r a person 2]

Why is Chara not a town read for you?

[u r a person 2]

Urap, do you have any reads on Chara?

Looking back, I think Chara's focus on creature was town-indicative.

I like their push onto TLK

I like their push off of Flippy

I like their questioning of Shiidaji's town read on your slot

Chara looks town af

This and also I remember having another pro chara thought earlier but I don't remember it now

[u r a person 2]

I mean, Chara was 100% correct on Creature by meta wise, but traitor doesn’t necessarily mean that that’s true.

I feel Chara’s townie for some of their perspectives on certain slots, like “this is why blah blah” i guess that’s basically what you said but in worse out words

traitor is why it's town indicative

if chara was right on creature, why kill creature?

Unless creature wasn't the night kill, but that opens a host of other questions. I think it was probably the night kill

[u r a person 2]

when we lynch outside of {insomnia, TLK} and I'm nightkilled, lynch em both please

FL is too frustrating when he's like this. I'm going to bed.

[u r a person 2]

hammer this and then lynch Insomnia tomorrow

[u r a person 2]

What is Super Saint?

[u r a person 2]

lolol

tomorrow we lynch insomnia or I rage

[u r a person 2]

vedith, if he flips scum, they are definitely partners.

Don't you remember him pushing off of TLK's lynch? I brought it up earlier.

either way tho, I want insomnia tomorrow

[u r a person 2]

but tbh, I don't think TLK is flipping scum after the claim. I think we just lost both FL and TLK

[u r a person 2]

So guys, how's everyone doing? good? good. Here's a thing you should know:

I'm a three-shot loyal neighborizer.

I've used my ability twice

and I have no one in my neighborhood. =)

Insomnia was my night 1 check
Flavor Leaf was my night 2 check.

I'll leave ya'll to find the last scum

VOTE: insomnia

[u r a person 2]

Spoiler: red check crumbs

@insomnia

Oooh, buddy, rolled scum this game, eh?

So who's reading Burkenstock as town and why?

I'm reading him as slightly less scummy. He could just be n00b town. Still in my scum pile though.

Right now I'm favouring our sleepless friend. The reasoning behind his vote is rubbish and smells synthetic.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Insomnia

This is

certainly

a good vote[/quote]

Like, I'm pretty confident in scum!insomnia.

When he's scum there is a disconnect between his thought processes and mine that I just can't bridge.

The logic he uses just repels me, and it's actually difficult for me to read it. I dunno if that makes sense. I'm still trying to put it into words.

But you don't wanna do insomnia, let's do TLK, ya?

[u r a person 2]

fixed formatting

Picked insomnia n1 shamelessly because of the rep out, and I picked FL last night because his bit about himself reminded me a lot of Morality in his latest scum win

Spoiler: red check crumbs

@insomnia

Oooh, buddy, rolled scum this game, eh?

So who's reading Burkenstock as town and why?

I'm reading him as slightly less scummy. He could just be n00b town. Still in my scum pile though.

Right now I'm favouring our sleepless friend. The reasoning behind his vote is rubbish and smells synthetic.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Insomnia

This is

certainly

a good vote

Like, I'm pretty confident in scum!insomnia.

When he's scum there is a disconnect between his thought processes and mine that I just can't bridge.

The logic he uses just repels me, and it's actually difficult for me to read it. I dunno if that makes sense. I'm still trying to put it into words.

But you don't wanna do insomnia, let's do TLK, ya?