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Post Post #225 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:14 pm

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although in fairness it's not really my job to solve the game for the paragons outside of killing the one scum.
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Post Post #226 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:15 pm

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but my point is that i've seen game after game recently where some individual dipshit town voted against the townblock because they convinced themselves scum were bussing and lynched town.

so... don't do that
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Post Post #227 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:03 pm

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i'm not especially certain on any one of my reads

but my current stance is that urap2 is scum, shoshin is town, and 1/2 lurkers is scum.
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Post Post #228 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:06 pm

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Do you still scumread me
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Post Post #229 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:06 pm

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yes
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Post Post #230 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:08 pm

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U2 feels townish to me. Why scum?
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Post Post #231 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:09 pm

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In post 227, RadiantCowbells wrote:i'm not especially certain on any one of my reads

but my current stance is that urap2 is scum, shoshin is town, and 1/2 lurkers is scum.
Talk about this?

Is it because he rode the slip for so long? Because I'm going to admit that I didn't catch it and the person who caught it caught on urap2 first.
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Post Post #232 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:10 pm

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literally nothing to do with the slip

moreso that his townread on me, as much as I liked it, felt off and I'm not sure I townread a lot of things in his play. His 'oh you are posturing but xyz' also bothered me.
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Post Post #233 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:10 pm

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like most scumreads that i have my scumread is mostly that his iso, based on my experience playing mafia, holistically comes from scum more often than town.
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Post Post #234 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:11 pm

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Hm, ok I'll look again.
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Post Post #235 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:12 pm

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Do you have a hesitancy to be biased one way or another after arguing with them?
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Post Post #236 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:13 pm

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given that this is a 5p game i plan to hard meta him and everyone else, but he just felt like he wasn't really scumhunting us and was just kinda sidelining it.

really easy to call us TvT.
Do you have a hesitancy to be biased one way or another after arguing with them?
unsure what you're actually asking me.
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Post Post #237 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:14 pm

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His townread on you seems like he's just unaware of your reputation as scum, the reasoning seems plausible from town U2. But I agree the posturing point isn't good.
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Post Post #238 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:15 pm

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he knows.
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Post Post #239 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:15 pm

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it's not even the townread on me, it's the lack of critical thinking that i felt in the play. felt like he was saying things not sorting.
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Post Post #240 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:16 pm

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In post 237, Shoshin wrote:His townread on you seems like he's just unaware of your reputation as scum, the reasoning seems plausible from town U2. But I agree the posturing point isn't good.
I have not played with scum!RC in a non-marathon setting (I don't think?), but I'm aware of his reputation, and I respect that he is undoubtedly excellent as scum. So if your read is based on me not knowing who RC is, you should probably reevaluate.
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Post Post #241 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:16 pm

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I intend to hard meta players as well. I was skimming through U2's scum game earlier but I need to take a closer look when I feel the energy.
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Post Post #242 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:17 pm

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In post 240, u r a person 2 wrote:
In post 237, Shoshin wrote:His townread on you seems like he's just unaware of your reputation as scum, the reasoning seems plausible from town U2. But I agree the posturing point isn't good.
I have not played with scum!RC in a non-marathon setting (I don't think?)
you mean besides this game? :!:
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Post Post #243 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:17 pm

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In post 242, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 240, u r a person 2 wrote:
In post 237, Shoshin wrote:His townread on you seems like he's just unaware of your reputation as scum, the reasoning seems plausible from town U2. But I agree the posturing point isn't good.
I have not played with scum!RC in a non-marathon setting (I don't think?)
you mean besides this game? :!:
oh, you ;P
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Post Post #244 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:20 pm

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there's a concept that's really deeply important with regards to how i play mafia that's entirely out of the common understanding of the game and i think that there's a lot of it in URAP's iso and that they're probs scum

if I did a meta dive I could come to a better read on whether it's something that shows up in an alignment indicative fashion

i think that it is likely that, regardless of URAP2's alignment, I will end up with a read that I can call near lock solid on them
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Post Post #245 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:21 pm

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Can you link a post containing this thing? I'm not asking you to explain it, I just want an example
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Post Post #246 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:22 pm

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But I can say that I am looking forward to you being able to read me at NSG-levels, so gogo meta read. My wiki is 100% up to date.
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Post Post #247 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:22 pm

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In post 173, u r a person 2 wrote:
In post 168, Shoshin wrote:How is RC townier than me?
For like the third time, I think

I am able to get my head around his early progression and the thought process behind it. It was more convoluted than I would expect from page 1 scum

and while I imagine town!you can make that replace out comment, I can see it as a scum response. Now, I'm also getting a hard nosed feel from you that feels like the vague conception of town!shoshin that I have, and that feeling came through the whole of our earlier convo as well as this repetitive question now, so I think you're town

but there's the diff
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Post Post #248 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:23 pm

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thanks mate
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Post Post #249 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:23 pm

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You will almost certainly not be able to place what it is
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