Micro 857: Burden of Proficiency Mafia

Shoshin · Post Post #350 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:38 pm

I don't have high enough IQ to follow your reasoning, MS.

Michael Scott · Post Post #351 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:39 pm

We also have a number of Paragons here and it's in their best interest to have scum lynched - so we'll have a wealth of opinions soon enough.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #352 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:40 pm

one of my strongest traits as town is my ability to not confbias on my own reads and to reevaluate when shown evidence that I'm wrong on something.

don't BoP my reads initially, develop your own reads and then show them to me, then when you've shown me the case sheep me if I still disagree.

Michael Scott · Post Post #353 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:40 pm

In post 350, Shoshin wrote:I don't have high enough IQ to follow your reasoning, MS.

I mean it's simple.
I'm town so both scum have to be in the other four slots.

Assert Saudade town: One pair in {RC, Shoshin, URAP} has to be SvS.
Eliminate all SvS pairings in {RC, Shoshin, URAP} and it contradicts the above -> confidence that Saudade is town.

Michael Scott · Post Post #354 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:42 pm

scum*, sorry.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #355 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:43 pm

this isn't the stage of the game where you think of the game like that

can you, like, read the players as individuals before you do stuff like that

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #356 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:46 pm

i really need more people giving their reads on everyone as individuals

as long as they townread me

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #357 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:50 pm

because, like, you haven't actually given reads on everyone. all you've done is discussed a mechanical strategy for the game. it's not alignment indicative at all. doesn't help me read you, or anyone else.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #358 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:51 pm

in fact i would argue that your strategy has been to give yourself as little responsibility as possible for the actual process of reading anyone.

Michael Scott · Post Post #359 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:54 pm

Well after the first skim, I'm at Shoshin > URAP > RadiantCowbells.

I would counter that "these two aren't SvS" is also a read, if not an individual read - whatever helps me win the game.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #360 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:55 pm

Are you going from towniest to scummiest or vice versa?

Michael Scott · Post Post #361 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:55 pm

My read accuracy is meh, and I'm not at all confident in these reads but if you want me to explain more about what pinged me and what I liked, I can go into detail.

Michael Scott · Post Post #362 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:55 pm

Scummiest to towniest as I see it.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #363 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:58 pm

Would definitely help me sort you to get reasons for your reads, yeah.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #364 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:07 pm

i really don't like the fact that it's like pulling teeth to get you to play the game...

Michael Scott · Post Post #365 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:10 pm

I'm in the process, man.
I have a thumb splint because of inflammation that makes typing really hard, so give me some time.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #366 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:10 pm

like i kinda feel like if you're town you're expecting me and shoshin to spoon feed you the game.

ok. sorry.

Michael Scott · Post Post #367 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:19 pm

Shoshin: Don't like her "obvscum" comment P1 when she should know it would just rile you up. I feel like she tried to push RC initially but when it failed, buddied up to him. She shaded my slot a couple of times saying we're usually "hyper posters" without considering the simple alternate hypothesis that the hyperposter within my hydra (me) was offline.

URAP: No real read here, but I'm a bit paranoid about his settling on the three being TvTvT pretty quick and being so ready to lynch from me and Saudade, while also saying he's adding nothing to the game and wants to wait for the other slots. I also figure town!URAP wouldn't be so quick to clear RC.

RadiantCowbells: I frankly can't place an agenda to this slot - I would expect scum!RC to strong-arm through the game by now. This is the only slot that was waiting to properly evaluate the game till I and Saudade appeared - which I find very towny.

Michael Scott · Post Post #368 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:22 pm

In post 366, RadiantCowbells wrote:like i kinda feel like if you're town you're expecting me and shoshin to spoon feed you the game.

Context.

If URAP is scum one of you both has to be town, so it's reasonable that if you both call him town he's likely town. I never said I'll blindly sheep you just because you say that, did I? Obviously I'd debate against it if I believed otherwise.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #369 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:23 pm

More referring to your reluctance to give reads at all and your repeated 'hey my reads arent actually that good' shtick but understood that you're having issues typing and don't wanna pressure you.

Saudade · Post Post #370 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:23 pm

15 pages...?

Saudade · Post Post #371 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:23 pm

im not reading all of that

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #372 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:23 pm

yeah fuck all the lurkers in this game

Saudade · Post Post #373 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:23 pm

how the fuck did you manage 15 pages the game just started

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #374 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:23 pm

In post 373, Saudade wrote:how the fuck did you manage 15 pages the game just started

sorry man we should have been posting more.