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Post Post #3 (isolation #0) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:54 am

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ok. i'm town

given the nature of this setup i have 50/50 of catching scum. i will catch scum. scum know that i am going to catch scum.
scum strategy in this game is to mislynch me, 100% of the time. particularly given that the paragons will support it given that it makes their wincondition easier to remove the biggest ? in the game.

if you're town, you win by working with me and you lose by voting me or allowing scum to discredit me.
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Post Post #5 (isolation #1) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:59 am

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and paragons, because this setup doesn't allow scum to bus, when I lead on scum you'll know that I'm town or gamethrowing. going after me is terrible. don't do it.
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Post Post #6 (isolation #2) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:00 pm

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don't rvs vote. don't vote at all.
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Post Post #13 (isolation #3) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:02 pm

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I am very reasonable :]
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Post Post #15 (isolation #4) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:03 pm

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Hey Shoshin if you're pretending to be transparently scum instead of actually just being transparently scum you should say something because I was already considering voting you.
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Post Post #19 (isolation #5) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:05 pm

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I think that she is scum trying to imply I'm being more reasonable than my town meta would dictate when in fact I was being (what most people would define as) pretty
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reasonable and she was trying to force a super complex sounding train of thought for pushing on me after I already pointed out that it is scum wincondition to paint me as scum this game.
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Post Post #22 (isolation #6) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:07 pm

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I think that if she were town regardless of her thoughts on my alignment she would be a lot warier of saying something that would be likely to pick a fight with me this soon.
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Post Post #23 (isolation #7) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:08 pm

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She thinks that she can read me, fine, she certainly doesn't make these posts on the first page of the game as scum.
It's not how she would deal with a scumread on me: I think it's plausible-ish that she scumreads me because I don't think that she can actually read me, but I don't think she ever makes this set of posts as town.
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Post Post #27 (isolation #8) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:09 pm

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certainly doesn't make these posts on the first page of the game while thinking I'm scum*

Even if she were sure I was scum she'd try to extract info from me. not start a 1v1. starting a 1v1 is what she wants to do as scum, take her being scumread by paragons post flip as collateral and hope that her partner stays under the radar for paragons.
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Post Post #29 (isolation #9) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:10 pm

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In post 25, Shoshin wrote:Hmm, not sure if RC's paranoia is fake or real. He knows at this point that he's paranoid of me every game but this seems a bit too soon for it, plus I feel like he'd probably wouldn't be coming after me like this so early.

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VOTE: Shoshin

I've seen enough.
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Post Post #32 (isolation #10) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:11 pm

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Town shoshin thinks about the game outside of thread and posts things, she doesn't make posts in thread spelling out really simplistic thought processes. That's scum!Shoshin trying to towntell.
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Post Post #34 (isolation #11) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:11 pm

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In post 31, Shoshin wrote:Unvote RC, I'm town.
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Post Post #38 (isolation #12) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:12 pm

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bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit

"hey rc you're super cute i love you lets team up"

"ok (your partner) is super scum we're lynching them"

"ummm. . . . ."
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Post Post #40 (isolation #13) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:13 pm

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In post 39, u r a person 2 wrote:
In post 36, Shoshin wrote:If I were scum, I'd be trying to buddy up to RC, not mislynch him.
This makes some sense to me because as I either alignment I think I'd prefer buddying RC to 1v1'ing him
no.
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Post Post #41 (isolation #14) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:13 pm

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can't buddy me in a game where you lose when i lead on your partner.
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Post Post #44 (isolation #15) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:14 pm

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exactly. because you're scum. and you can't.
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Post Post #46 (isolation #16) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:14 pm

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I already fucking spelled out to you why that's not scums approach, enter.
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Post Post #47 (isolation #17) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:14 pm

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In post 45, Shoshin wrote:If you think I'd follow you as town, you're delusional.
as town, as in you're not? thanks.
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Post Post #49 (isolation #18) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:15 pm

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YOU CANNOT BUDDY ME AS SCUM IN A 5P SETUP WHERE I'M JUST GOING TO LEAD ON YOUR BUDDY.
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Post Post #50 (isolation #19) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:15 pm

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In post 48, Enter wrote:
In post 42, Shoshin wrote:I'm not letting you lead shit, RC.
That's a really good idea.

Inb4 RC/Shoshin is scum theater
no, definitely don't let the person with the best reads lead.
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Post Post #52 (isolation #20) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:16 pm

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i literally started this game by explaining that scum would set up a 1v1 with me because it's their best shot at winning the game, scum started a 1v1 with me in a way that makes no sense as town, and then they insist that they wouldn't even though it makes literally no sense to give towncred to the person who is just gonna lead on your partner anyway?
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Post Post #55 (isolation #21) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:17 pm

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In post 51, Shoshin wrote:If you're actually town, I'm replacing out of this RC.
bc you pushed on me on page 1? if you're town we can pull back and talk about this but what you did was abject bullshit and you should expect me to scumread you for it.
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Post Post #59 (isolation #22) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:18 pm

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i dearly hope town wins and paragons lose
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Post Post #60 (isolation #23) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:19 pm

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In post 58, Shoshin wrote:The fact RC's pushing my lynch means he's scum, period. He straight-up told me he felt uncomfortable pushing my lynch ever because he'd feel too bad about mislynching me, and that he'd replace out before pushing my lynch. This is scum RC.
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Post Post #62 (isolation #24) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:19 pm

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i'm afraid of pushing on you when i'm uncertain. i'm not uncertain. nice job with the rep out thing
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Post Post #64 (isolation #25) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:19 pm

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actually it is.

town leads on scum and paragons mis-select.
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Post Post #65 (isolation #26) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:20 pm

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In post 9, Shoshin wrote:You sound very reasonable, RC.
In post 11, Shoshin wrote:Hey U2, why are you trusting obvscum RC?
In post 18, Shoshin wrote:I was going to say the same thing to you, RC.

let's discuss how this is "not pushing"
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Post Post #67 (isolation #27) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:22 pm

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In post 53, u r a person 2 wrote:I do see the logic in this argument. On the other hand, half this site scum reads you as a matter of course and paranoia.

Obviously, scum loses if you successfully lead on the partner, but if I, for example, were lynched today, maybe scum gets the win after paragons pick you because lawl-RC-is-scum~ reasons

I'm not sure that there is no path to victory for scum that don't go after you
so you state the former and don't understand why my progression is what it is and why I'm town for it?
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Post Post #69 (isolation #28) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:23 pm

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UNVOTE:

i'll unvote.

but i think that you're scum.
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Post Post #74 (isolation #29) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:26 pm

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previously on shoshinpernatural: if i rolled scum against you i would try to mislynch you
rc: the clear play for scum is to push a mislynch on me and discredit me because I'm highly likely to lead on scum if I'm allowed to play town leader
shoshin: -calls RC scum on page 1 for bullshit reasons-
also shoshin: i wasn't pushing you!!!
also shoshin: omg rc is only paranoiaing!!!!
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Post Post #77 (isolation #30) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:28 pm

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is there? doesn't seem to be.
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Post Post #79 (isolation #31) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:29 pm

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you're still not addressing why you scumread me on page 1 and you're still trying to pick apart townreads on me.
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Post Post #82 (isolation #32) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:30 pm

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In post 65, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 9, Shoshin wrote:You sound very reasonable, RC.
In post 11, Shoshin wrote:Hey U2, why are you trusting obvscum RC?
In post 18, Shoshin wrote:I was going to say the same thing to you, RC.

let's discuss how this is "not pushing"
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Post Post #84 (isolation #33) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:30 pm

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In post 82, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 65, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 9, Shoshin wrote:You sound very reasonable, RC.
In post 11, Shoshin wrote:Hey U2, why are you trusting obvscum RC?
In post 18, Shoshin wrote:I was going to say the same thing to you, RC.

let's discuss how this is "not pushing"
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Post Post #89 (isolation #34) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:33 pm

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if you're town you know exactly why I feel how I feel.
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Post Post #92 (isolation #35) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:36 pm

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i don't think it's specifically paranoid of you for me to scumread you calling me scum on the first page right after I spelled out my feeling that scum's primary goal in this game is to attack my town standing.
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Post Post #95 (isolation #36) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:37 pm

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and the hastiness of it felt like you were in a rush to discredit it immediately before it really sunk in. didn't like it.
If I came into this game immediately calling you town, RC, would you have called me town?
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Post Post #100 (isolation #37) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:40 pm

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Calling me reasonable seems like something you say about someone (me) who is scum, not town.
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Post Post #103 (isolation #38) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:42 pm

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ok. i took it differently in the context of you calling me scum in the other posts.
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Post Post #108 (isolation #39) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:46 pm

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so if you think that we're tvt, do you think that we're all town?
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Post Post #111 (isolation #40) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:05 pm

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i understand that if you're town this is probably really stressful so sorry for that shoshin. i was already super on edge and when you started calling me scum I just saw red.
let's at least try to see if we can agree on who the hypothetical second scum is.
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Post Post #112 (isolation #41) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:14 pm

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oh and EE? don't talk shit about my town game.
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Post Post #114 (isolation #42) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:20 pm

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:?:
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Post Post #115 (isolation #43) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:21 pm

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you don't even know any of my recent town games lol. if you've decided that my town performance hasn't been good without reading them then good for you!
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Post Post #117 (isolation #44) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:27 pm

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I wouldn't be so scared to be wrong if people didn't policy lynch me whenever I was wrong.
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Post Post #124 (isolation #45) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:41 pm

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what changed your mind on me?
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Post Post #151 (isolation #46) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:13 pm

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In post 143, Shoshin wrote:don't think I've ever heard of someone with better D1 reads than later.
thats me
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Post Post #159 (isolation #47) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:23 pm

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In post 153, singletonking wrote:
In post 29, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 25, Shoshin wrote:Hmm, not sure if RC's paranoia is fake or real. He knows at this point that he's paranoid of me every game but this seems a bit too soon for it, plus I feel like he'd probably wouldn't be coming after me like this so early.

kk

VOTE: Shoshin

I've seen enough.
RC why did you quickvote
she pushed on me page 1
she later claimed she wasn't actually pushing on me page 1
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Post Post #162 (isolation #48) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:27 pm

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because I felt that allowing her to push on me and establish a dominant position would end in her successfully mislynching me. also I was pissed off.
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Post Post #164 (isolation #49) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:34 pm

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no comment.
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Post Post #166 (isolation #50) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:35 pm

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he thinks that me/shoshin are town and that scum are the lurkers stk and ms
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Post Post #169 (isolation #51) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:39 pm

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feel like I objectively am?
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Post Post #172 (isolation #52) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:42 pm

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if i'm paranoid about it I think that expressing that paranoia right now is unsafe because he townreads me and my standing in town isn't good enough to make an unnecessary enemy.
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Post Post #174 (isolation #53) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:44 pm

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In post 172, RadiantCowbells wrote:if i'm paranoid about it I think that expressing that paranoia right now is unsafe because he townreads me and my standing in town isn't good enough to make an unnecessary enemy.
if you need an example of this type of thought process from me, look no further than my 'townread' on northsidegal in xyzzy's game.
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Post Post #181 (isolation #54) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:49 pm

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rc and urap, you both think stk are scum, correct?
i have made no comment on my scumreads and i don't plan to until michael scott and singletonking have posted more
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Post Post #184 (isolation #55) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:52 pm

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oh i see
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Post Post #188 (isolation #56) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:54 pm

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the point is that stk is a paragon not a player.
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Post Post #190 (isolation #57) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:54 pm

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do you drink anything?
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Post Post #192 (isolation #58) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:54 pm

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it would be very silly to put it past me to fake the saudade/stk thing as a dumbtell and i think it would be equally silly to put it past urap for the record.
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Post Post #208 (isolation #59) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:04 pm

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link the game?
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Post Post #211 (isolation #60) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:05 pm

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oh that game ok read it.
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Post Post #216 (isolation #61) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:09 pm

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we're not lynching the hydra before they've posted, if i need to say that.
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Post Post #219 (isolation #62) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:11 pm

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reminder to all parties present that you need 3 town votes to kill scum in this game because scum aren't gonna bus.

so if i'm not supporting a wagon that you think you can get through and you think i'm town, that wagon is town too.
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Post Post #220 (isolation #63) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:12 pm

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if someone's white flag gambitting i'll figure it out.
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Post Post #224 (isolation #64) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:13 pm

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if scum are pushing each other i'll figure it out. please no one else delude yourself into thinking that white flag are gambitting for no better reason than you being so sure that someone is scum and them being lynchable
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Post Post #225 (isolation #65) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:14 pm

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although in fairness it's not really my job to solve the game for the paragons outside of killing the one scum.
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Post Post #226 (isolation #66) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:15 pm

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but my point is that i've seen game after game recently where some individual dipshit town voted against the townblock because they convinced themselves scum were bussing and lynched town.

so... don't do that
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Post Post #227 (isolation #67) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:03 pm

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i'm not especially certain on any one of my reads

but my current stance is that urap2 is scum, shoshin is town, and 1/2 lurkers is scum.
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Post Post #229 (isolation #68) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:06 pm

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yes
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Post Post #232 (isolation #69) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:10 pm

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literally nothing to do with the slip

moreso that his townread on me, as much as I liked it, felt off and I'm not sure I townread a lot of things in his play. His 'oh you are posturing but xyz' also bothered me.
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Post Post #233 (isolation #70) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:10 pm

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like most scumreads that i have my scumread is mostly that his iso, based on my experience playing mafia, holistically comes from scum more often than town.
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Post Post #236 (isolation #71) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:13 pm

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given that this is a 5p game i plan to hard meta him and everyone else, but he just felt like he wasn't really scumhunting us and was just kinda sidelining it.

really easy to call us TvT.
Do you have a hesitancy to be biased one way or another after arguing with them?
unsure what you're actually asking me.
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Post Post #238 (isolation #72) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:15 pm

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he knows.
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Post Post #239 (isolation #73) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:15 pm

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it's not even the townread on me, it's the lack of critical thinking that i felt in the play. felt like he was saying things not sorting.
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Post Post #242 (isolation #74) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:17 pm

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In post 240, u r a person 2 wrote:
In post 237, Shoshin wrote:His townread on you seems like he's just unaware of your reputation as scum, the reasoning seems plausible from town U2. But I agree the posturing point isn't good.
I have not played with scum!RC in a non-marathon setting (I don't think?)
you mean besides this game? :!:
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Post Post #244 (isolation #75) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:20 pm

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there's a concept that's really deeply important with regards to how i play mafia that's entirely out of the common understanding of the game and i think that there's a lot of it in URAP's iso and that they're probs scum

if I did a meta dive I could come to a better read on whether it's something that shows up in an alignment indicative fashion

i think that it is likely that, regardless of URAP2's alignment, I will end up with a read that I can call near lock solid on them
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Post Post #247 (isolation #76) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:22 pm

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In post 173, u r a person 2 wrote:
In post 168, Shoshin wrote:How is RC townier than me?
For like the third time, I think

I am able to get my head around his early progression and the thought process behind it. It was more convoluted than I would expect from page 1 scum

and while I imagine town!you can make that replace out comment, I can see it as a scum response. Now, I'm also getting a hard nosed feel from you that feels like the vague conception of town!shoshin that I have, and that feeling came through the whole of our earlier convo as well as this repetitive question now, so I think you're town

but there's the diff
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Post Post #249 (isolation #77) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:23 pm

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You will almost certainly not be able to place what it is
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Post Post #250 (isolation #78) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:25 pm

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Oh your only scum game was the FA one
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Post Post #253 (isolation #79) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:28 pm

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So you're saying you'd prefer scum

There goes lower activity level in your 1 scum game as potential towntell
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Post Post #255 (isolation #80) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:31 pm

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@others is urap always this IIOA as town?
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Post Post #257 (isolation #81) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:33 pm

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Spends so much time talking about setup details and much less about his actual reads
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Post Post #260 (isolation #82) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:36 pm

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In post 251, u r a person 2 wrote:Oh I'm not even going to try, but I'm going to ask that you explain it if you end up pushing me to a lynch over this cloaked reason
Also think that caring about the reason is scum indicative
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Post Post #261 (isolation #83) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:39 pm

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Feeling better and better about urap scumread
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Post Post #263 (isolation #84) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:40 pm

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Ok time to read town games and verify the difference
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Post Post #265 (isolation #85) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:41 pm

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In post 262, u r a person 2 wrote:but I won't explain why

Why wouldn't you?
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Post Post #269 (isolation #86) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:43 pm

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How do you know mhmsith0
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Post Post #271 (isolation #87) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:44 pm

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My pet scumtell is present substantially in his town game as well :(
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Post Post #276 (isolation #88) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:49 pm

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In post 273, u r a person 2 wrote:
In post 271, RadiantCowbells wrote:My pet scumtell is present substantially in his town game as well :(
Does that mean you can explain it now?
No way Jose
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Post Post #278 (isolation #89) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:50 pm

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Shoshin don't vote without asking me first pls
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Post Post #281 (isolation #90) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:00 pm

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Pls don't :(
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Post Post #282 (isolation #91) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:00 pm

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I'm not like sure about urap but I think they're decent town equity as of right now
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Post Post #284 (isolation #92) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:04 pm

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I am amazed by my own iso in this game
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Post Post #286 (isolation #93) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:05 pm

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Shoshin did your read on Urap change during meta?
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Post Post #290 (isolation #94) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:10 pm

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I'm not reading everything right now b/c for all I know one of the remaining players will be lolobvscum and I won't have to bother

I dug for specific things in his VT games and found them
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Post Post #293 (isolation #95) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:11 pm

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I lean all of us being town and scum having not acted yet
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Post Post #295 (isolation #96) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:12 pm

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In post 292, Shoshin wrote:
In post 290, RadiantCowbells wrote:I dug for specific things in his VT games and found them
What'd you find?
That his waffliness and the LAMIST IIOAy stuff are NAI
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Post Post #296 (isolation #97) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:13 pm

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Sorry about my thread entrance Shoshin
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Post Post #299 (isolation #98) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:16 pm

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I think we'll see, I guess
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Post Post #301 (isolation #99) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:22 pm

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In post 58, Shoshin wrote:The fact RC's pushing my lynch means he's scum, period. He straight-up told me he felt uncomfortable pushing my lynch ever because he'd feel too bad about mislynching me, and that he'd replace out before pushing my lynch. This is scum RC.
This is really dishonest though

Walk me through your thought process making this?
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Post Post #304 (isolation #100) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:26 pm

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That is a pretty severe misinterpretation at best
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Post Post #307 (isolation #101) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:27 pm

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I don't want to mislynch you but that doesn't mean I rep out because I think you're scum.
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Post Post #309 (isolation #102) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:29 pm

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Stk what does that say to you about uraps alignment this game
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Post Post #310 (isolation #103) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:37 pm

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As a reminder to the paragons

The best strategy for you guys is to lynch scum today because barring extremely niche circumstances one can simply lynch whoever was off wagon and win.
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Post Post #311 (isolation #104) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:38 pm

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That means that having read discussions with us and not privately is very :]
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Post Post #313 (isolation #105) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:41 pm

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In post 42, Shoshin wrote:I'm not letting you lead shit, RC.
In post 45, Shoshin wrote:If you think I'd follow you as town, you're delusional.
Were these frustration posts or sincere
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Post Post #315 (isolation #106) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:49 pm

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Do you still think that you can read me?
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Post Post #319 (isolation #107) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:51 pm

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I really don't think you can meta me, StK, so...
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Post Post #320 (isolation #108) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:51 pm

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Like in terms of how I'd read myself

Every towntell I can think of is present this game
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Post Post #321 (isolation #109) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:52 pm

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In post 318, Shoshin wrote:
In post 315, RadiantCowbells wrote:Do you still think that you can read me?
Yes, until proven otherwise.
Not talking to you ftr
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Post Post #323 (isolation #110) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:58 pm

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I think you have correctly locktowned me enough when I've been town that I think you can read me, but I doubt that calling me scum will do you any good.
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Post Post #325 (isolation #111) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:01 pm

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it's much easier to correctly call me scum than to actually do anything with it.
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Post Post #327 (isolation #112) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:02 pm

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not that a lot of people can do the former.
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Post Post #329 (isolation #113) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:07 pm

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ftr i'm not lock on you being town.

we really need the absentee slots to not be absentee.
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yiiiiiiiiikes
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Post Post #332 (isolation #115) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:14 pm

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more analysis less questions to test the waters please.
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Post Post #333 (isolation #116) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:15 pm

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literally every question on that list looks like it's trying to test the waters for different lynches and gauge where you want to go.
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Post Post #336 (isolation #117) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:15 pm

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i do.

it's more important if you're town that you show that you're town than anything else.
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Post Post #339 (isolation #118) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:30 pm

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btw i'm staying up for this

so if it's not coming let me know so I can sleep x_x
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Post Post #342 (isolation #119) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:33 pm

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i'm curious how you exclude shoshin/URAP because I've paranoiaed on that being a possibility several times.
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Post Post #345 (isolation #120) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:35 pm

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Why are you relying on me? @_@
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Post Post #347 (isolation #121) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:36 pm

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I mean I suppose but it's always good to get second opinions. particularly given if they're both scum I was alone getting pocketed by both of them for the entire thread so far.
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Post Post #352 (isolation #122) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:40 pm

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one of my strongest traits as town is my ability to not confbias on my own reads and to reevaluate when shown evidence that I'm wrong on something.

don't BoP my reads initially, develop your own reads and then show them to me, then when you've shown me the case sheep me if I still disagree.
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Post Post #355 (isolation #123) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:43 pm

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this isn't the stage of the game where you think of the game like that

can you, like, read the players as individuals before you do stuff like that
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Post Post #356 (isolation #124) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:46 pm

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i really need more people giving their reads on everyone as individuals

as long as they townread me :P
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Post Post #357 (isolation #125) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:50 pm

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because, like, you haven't actually given reads on everyone. all you've done is discussed a mechanical strategy for the game. it's not alignment indicative at all. doesn't help me read you, or anyone else.
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Post Post #358 (isolation #126) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:51 pm

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in fact i would argue that your strategy has been to give yourself as little responsibility as possible for the actual process of reading anyone.
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Post Post #360 (isolation #127) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:55 pm

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Are you going from towniest to scummiest or vice versa?
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Post Post #363 (isolation #128) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:58 pm

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Would definitely help me sort you to get reasons for your reads, yeah.
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Post Post #364 (isolation #129) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:07 pm

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i really don't like the fact that it's like pulling teeth to get you to play the game...
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Post Post #366 (isolation #130) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:10 pm

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like i kinda feel like if you're town you're expecting me and shoshin to spoon feed you the game.

ok. sorry.
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Post Post #369 (isolation #131) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:23 pm

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More referring to your reluctance to give reads at all and your repeated 'hey my reads arent actually that good' shtick but understood that you're having issues typing and don't wanna pressure you.
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Post Post #372 (isolation #132) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:23 pm

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yeah fuck all the lurkers in this game
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Post Post #374 (isolation #133) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:23 pm

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In post 373, Saudade wrote:how the fuck did you manage 15 pages the game just started
sorry man we should have been posting more.
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Post Post #376 (isolation #134) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:24 pm

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o
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Post Post #378 (isolation #135) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:25 pm

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no only 36%
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Post Post #380 (isolation #136) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:27 pm

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that is to be determined
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Post Post #388 (isolation #137) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:30 pm

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oi saudade

the fact that i put all 3 of your mason buddies together preflip when you were trying to distance should say something meaningful about the fact that i was actually doing
something
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Post Post #389 (isolation #138) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:30 pm

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i just... always scumread masons.
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Post Post #394 (isolation #139) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:32 pm

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umm
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Post Post #397 (isolation #140) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:33 pm

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ok i'm lying to you i'm actually not radiantcowbells at all
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Post Post #399 (isolation #141) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:33 pm

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Hi, now I'm RadiantCowbells. How are you doing?
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Post Post #402 (isolation #142) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:34 pm

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I'm looking forward to your 100% read on Saudade by the way, Shoshin.
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Post Post #404 (isolation #143) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:35 pm

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In post 403, Saudade wrote:
In post 398, Michael Scott wrote:I was outlining a process by which I could safely arrive at that conclusion independent of your posting
which is...
Determine that there is at most 1 scum in the other 3 players in the game.
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Post Post #406 (isolation #144) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:36 pm

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ty based saudade
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Post Post #409 (isolation #145) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:36 pm

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No, I wasn't. Michael Scott was. I was listening to Keane and eating bread with Nutella on it.
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Post Post #411 (isolation #146) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:37 pm

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:o
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Post Post #414 (isolation #147) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:38 pm

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I think I have a meaningful read on my mother's alignment IRL. I think that she's town.
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Post Post #417 (isolation #148) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:39 pm

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I think that my box of kleenex is town-aligned.
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Post Post #418 (isolation #149) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:40 pm

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Saudade can you get reads on everyone in this game including singletonking tyvm
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Post Post #421 (isolation #150) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:42 pm

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@Shoshin, interested in your spicy 100% read on Saudade.
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Post Post #422 (isolation #151) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:42 pm

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Saudade I need 1 read from you and that's your Shoshin read. ty for your service.
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Post Post #424 (isolation #152) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:43 pm

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she's my lawyer on retainer.
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Post Post #426 (isolation #153) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:45 pm

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hey sau what's your favorite shot?
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Post Post #429 (isolation #154) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:48 pm

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i'm disgusted and am strongly considering voting you
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Post Post #431 (isolation #155) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:49 pm

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quite simply, i should.
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Post Post #433 (isolation #156) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:51 pm

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me? i have a lot to think about. I think that i have an opinion on what the solve is but I'll think about it before I go in with it.
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Post Post #437 (isolation #157) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:55 pm

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I asked what his favorite shot was and he said he didn't have one then named an Israeli rifle instead
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Post Post #556 (isolation #158) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:46 am

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ty for scumreading me and bursting another happy hey I'm actually getting townread bubble
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Post Post #557 (isolation #159) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:02 am

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Hey MS I think that the struggle that I had to go through to get your reads and explanations for those reads is scum indicative. I'm also not townreading your play for any other reason. Talk to me about that?
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Post Post #558 (isolation #160) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:04 am

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Enter you would find my posting super natural if I was scum

The fact that it doesn't come across as natural is if anything a towntell
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Post Post #559 (isolation #161) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:05 am

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Regarding pretty much everything else that you said

You don't understand how I play mafia
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Post Post #569 (isolation #162) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:58 am

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URAP you also SR Michael Scott correct?

Not asking you to vote right now just clarifying
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Post Post #570 (isolation #163) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:01 am

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In post 567, Saudade wrote:Come back here you weird giraffe zebra mix I want a dance with you
:?: :!: :dead: :igmeou: :shifty:
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Post Post #573 (isolation #164) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:19 am

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yes
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Drinking on a weeknight ayyy
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Post Post #582 (isolation #166) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:14 am

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Shoshin has a scum reputation?
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Post Post #586 (isolation #167) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:22 am

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Yeah but if I help him just lynch two obvious scum where's the glory for him right? It's just all me and him sheep in me right?
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Post Post #587 (isolation #168) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:23 am

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In post 585, Enter wrote:UNVOTE: Shoshin

VOTE: Michael Scott

VOTE: Saudade

Since U R A PERSON TOO! cannot be scum with saudade that makes the game super easy
Didn't we establish how this was a terrible basis for reads
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Post Post #592 (isolation #169) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:25 am

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I don't even know what to say to you because I'm not sure if you're impapctrying to win or if this is all about negative environmental impact
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Post Post #593 (isolation #170) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:25 am

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No stop
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Post Post #594 (isolation #171) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:25 am

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No yougurt
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Post Post #596 (isolation #172) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:26 am

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Stiot
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Post Post #597 (isolation #173) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:28 am

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Fuck off pillbog
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Post Post #600 (isolation #174) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:31 am

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Wtf????
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Post Post #601 (isolation #175) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:33 am

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You ait giraffe??
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Post Post #603 (isolation #176) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:39 am

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Sign.
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Post Post #614 (isolation #177) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:09 pm

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I'm town fuck off
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Post Post #615 (isolation #178) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:12 pm

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In post 608, Saudade wrote:
In post 607, Enter wrote:RC and Shoshin both say they're not scum
RC says white flag gambit cannot happen this game
u r a person 2 is pushing Saudade as the lynch
=> Michael Scott and Saudade are scum.

Saudade wrote:Are you playing bad on purpose?
Yes, I'm trying to be lynchbait. What's your read on me?
That you're terrible at this game
Live it already
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Post Post #616 (isolation #179) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:13 pm

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Do w all have British accents this game
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Post Post #617 (isolation #180) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:13 pm

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Ok but

I'm town

Ever
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Post Post #618 (isolation #181) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:14 pm

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I'm town leave me alone until.tomorrow pls
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Post Post #619 (isolation #182) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:15 pm

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Ok nevermind but just

Give me a day
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Post Post #620 (isolation #183) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:16 pm

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Not on the townnthunfnvu like
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Post Post #621 (isolation #184) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:17 pm

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Nvm not posting.
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Post Post #623 (isolation #185) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:28 pm

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No
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Post Post #626 (isolation #186) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:42 pm

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What
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Post Post #627 (isolation #187) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:42 pm

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Oh lik ok uge! Iti
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Post Post #628 (isolation #188) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:42 pm

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I get it*
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Post Post #629 (isolation #189) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:43 pm

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Didn't I ask you to an MS read
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Post Post #631 (isolation #190) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:59 pm

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But wait what
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Post Post #638 (isolation #191) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:04 pm

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Maybe I'm just obvtown ok??
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Post Post #639 (isolation #192) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:05 pm

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Will what is that a scumclaim
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Post Post #641 (isolation #193) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:07 pm

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Wtf?????
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Post Post #642 (isolation #194) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:07 pm

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Who is the best Shoshin anywya
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Post Post #644 (isolation #195) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:09 pm

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I'm not falling for anyone
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Post Post #652 (isolation #196) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:16 pm

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Wait what did this thing
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Post Post #654 (isolation #197) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:17 pm

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Atvlwaysbyou tried right?
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Post Post #656 (isolation #198) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:17 pm

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It's fine I don't have to do anything.
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Post Post #659 (isolation #199) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:19 pm

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Always townread me
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