Mini 2063 - Rapier Upick Shuffle [Game Over]

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there's literally nothing scummy about those words implo

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VOTE: implosion

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Page five and people are already voting RC ok

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I hate you all

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ppl need to stop policy lynching rc it's rude as fuck

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Kappa

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Sounds like a convenient, preemptive defense of why I'm not gonna TR you

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I tilt when I get scumread for BS reasons and in that game I spent the entire game getting scumread for BS reasons

I do note that you're expecting me to scumread you

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I tilt when I get scumread for BS reasons and in that game I spent the entire game getting scumread for BS reasons

Also this isn't an excuse to have had an incorrect 100% scumread on me.
Stop trying to make excuses. You don't need an excuse, people are wrong sometimes. Just be right this time!

It takes only a cursory review of my past games to note how strong the correlation between terrible scumreads on me and my reads being wrong is.

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Yikes what?

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VOTE: Alonzo

Yikes!

Yikes what?

Later

Short answer I don't believe Alonzo really thinks Glion is scum

Lol I town read Parm regardless of Alonzo/GL flips

Are u buddying me

hey uh implo
if you're town you should explain this

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you're making yourself awfully hard to townread.

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other rc how would it feel if i told you that you rolling scum would make me very sad in this game

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VOTE: mbaki[/v[

i'll scumread you

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VOTE: mbaki

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hi lovebird what is ur alignment be

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VOTE: Parmigiano Reggiano

still scumreading mbaki but this is worse right now.

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alonzo unvoted you because he thought that mbaki's progression on you was potentially scum

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sheep me birdy

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Not entirely sure 120 is entirely honest, implo made one post between Smiley's saying he didn't have enough to scumread implo and voting implo.

Smiley, did you scumread Implo more based on 113? Why if so

this is by far the most scum indicative post in the game right now.

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Idk, I thought the same thing too, about the switch.

it's not the thought process they exhibited it's how they talked about it.

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mbaki i'll kill you d1 if you try to push on me. this is the only warning you get.

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it's strange to be implying something regarding my ability to read you on the 9th page of the game.

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pls don't do that style of posting mastina

be wordy

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fractured could be scum i guess

still not townreading chese.

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fractured is on my radar. not gonna vote for them rn.

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why is ankamius townreading me?

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feels like a really, really, really easy town read and for reasons that aren't really towny, at least regarding the easy thought process bit.

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VOTE: brigitte

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sad that you rolled scum.

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let's just not talk to each other, talking to scum you annoys me, sorry.

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i know that you don't push on me this early in day 1 as town. we both know i'm not going to out you to capitalize on that fact. so, better to just not talk to you.

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hey brigitte if you're town how would you feel about being confirmed town and getting rid of your 'sole pinging' slot

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no, i'm going to get shot n1 whether i use this or not so i'm using it today.

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????/

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as far as i'm aware you're unable to do shit to me because i'm not voting you.

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ok...

don't actually have a dayvig/desperado just wanted people to leave me the fuck alone.

still killing brigitte.

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mind explaining why you feel that your role is 'scummy as fuck'?

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also think that brigitte's reaction was +rand scum even if not glaringly scum so

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i mean

i don't think RC/you is svs

so i got that out of it as well, at least?

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hey guys I don't want to out brigitte but I know for a fact that this play doesn't come from town them and is highly likely to come from scum them. please treat today as gladiated between the two of us.

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brigitte is acutely aware of the fact that shitty early scumreads tilt me. we've discussed it, at length, outside of the game. this play doesn't come from them except as an intentional move to tilt me

as far as I can remember they haven't done something like this when i was town in several years.

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and all of their reactions after this started have only made sense from a scum pov. reaction test result was bluffcally without any attempt to deal with it in a pro-town manner. general tone and shit, the way that they're talking to me, the standoffishness with the 'hmm this is either trying to piss me off or scum'. it's scum. bla bla bla.

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i don't think that that is a question that i should be answering.

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I'm going to sleep fuck this

??????

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complete lack of any reaction here is super scum indicative as well btw. there's no attempt to engage with me or anything.
given that there's certainly no reason for them to be even close to that confident i was scum in the first place, the lack of an attempt to engage with this is a scumclaim

town them is capable of a lot more of a reaction either in terms of emoting that i'm scum or trying to sort my rxn.

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ok. we're both happy with our votes. that is good.

enough said rly

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i don't feel like i can play this game in good faith and it's not fair to the other players to stay.

replace me.

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you know full well how i'm going to react to your play so far and have chosen to make it anyway and if you're scum i respect your right to make that line of play but i think that it's healthier to not do this.

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ok. but you should really,

really

know by now that this is not how you sort me.

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you yourself said that you can't read me when i'm like this. i concur that it is

literally

impossible to distinguish my alignments when i'm pissed off trying to lynch someone. which i objectively was regardless of my alignment.

you know that fact and still chose to make a line of play that was going to piss me off. i don't see how that's ever your town play. i feel like holistically in the past you have refrained from pushing on me outright when you've scumread me and not been sure when you've known that it would be a bad move in the gamestate. why is this game different if you're town? because at this point i just want to grudge lynch you and that doesn't feel fair to the game

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i truly cannot imagine town you expecting this to go literally any differently than it went besides me just lynching instead of replacing out. which isn't better if you're town.

so, why?

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like it's not even alignment indicative at this point i'm too unhappy with the game to play it properly town or scum. why are we here right now if you are town?

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ok. none of that answers my question of why we're here if you're town both of us knowing full well that this or some variation of this was always going to be the end result of 'hey ur my only scumread' on d1 when i expect you to be at least somewhat proficient in both reading my slot and dealing with it in general

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i'm not asking you to try to convince me that i'm town. i'm asking you to explain why you took an action that can probably be answered in a completely NAI way even.

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door #2 is you just getting lynched anyway so if you wanted the world that you claimed to want where we get to play a game together not saying anything isn't the path to it.

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whatever she's just scum kill her.

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i think rc is scum if brigitte isn't

this entire interaction really really really bugs me

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ffs

I'm going to sleep fuck this

two fuck this's and no attempt to dissuade me from the wagon which i'm assuming is what she was going for
also a rushed attempt to prove that she can prevent kills on someone which I don't understand coming from town

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less the parry more general gut feels and the multiple ffs's

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i objectively have no reason to believe that brigitte is anything besides scum though and tons of reason to believe that she's scum.

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You realize that they are not masons correct

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Are they?

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Gonna remain silent about my reads for a little while

I'm assuming I've done enough to get space enough for that

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That read is precisely the reason I don't want to give reads.

So, no. And at what point are you going to stop feeling the need to remind me that you don't townread me?

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What's your endgame? So that if you get nightkilled you can brag that you didn't misread me if I turn out to be scum? Give it a rest.

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I will egopost as well

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Hey GL what's YOUR parm read

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i'm gonna

VOTE: parmigiano again

kinda feel like if I try to stay in the back and develop my reads it'll just end with a lynch on town fractured.

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without having 100% vetted any of these townreads like i like to before i give hard townreads

alonzo, lovebird, implosion, rc town

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hahaha hearing more from lovebird

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yeah we're not lynching until there's a lot more pages than this.

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i kinda wanted to try to get more spew from parmigiano but

i'm already finding it difficult to sort the spew that exists

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not really interested in the Brigitte/Reality Check/Radiant discussion except to affirm that I buy both of Brigitte's/Reality Check's claims regarding eachother and have them both as town

I don't like! Why let them off the hook like this? If they're scum, they've bought themselves a very easy townread. But more than that, if they're scum and you're town, what could convince you to vacate that townread? Their play later on? This statement of yours bothers me

besides this which seems, like, transparently svs

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or at the very least, cheese being scum.

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lovebird is lovebird. i can gut read them with 100% accuracy sample size 6 games. i'll figure them out for suresies at some point.

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(plus the Alonzo doesn't believe in his GL scumread!! chainsaw defense, also pointing to GL. but no clear thirds)

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i would already scumread GL without any associatives

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why did you in the first place?

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i truly think gl/parm is just caught svs

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Like this, which just is like. The first line is like "look at me, i'm also one of the people who knows people in this game and is interacting w/ them to develop reads." And the second line is kind of a garbage reason to be skeptical of someone, ish? And specifically picking out mbaki and parm is like "look at me, i can choose an arbitrary subset of people because i am Town and as Town i am interested in some players more than others" and etc.

quick thought on this

don't you think it's more likely that there's a scum in the pairing?

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the {mbaki, parm} pairing i mean.

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i think it sometimes does and doesn't and my gut says it does in this situation.

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like it's the kind of thing scum!GL would feel more confident putting TvS than SvS or TvT

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i just had a thought of alonzo/gl/parm and the entire scumteam's just been distancing like crazy

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hmm

could everyone else be town

the of the milennia

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btw

when i said everyone else

i meant

everyone else besides gl/alonzo/parm

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i find it easy to see everyone who isn't in the {ankstina/brigitte} hood as town if i look for it

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that said... GL does seem to be the best vote right now given that I think parm/alonzo have stronger ties to GL specifically than each other

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but do I even scumread alonzo.

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idk. associatives look bad but i'm not sure that they're scum. feel a lot better about the others.

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i think parmigiano >>>>> GL >>> other people starting with... not sure

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Not entirely sure 120 is entirely honest, implo made one post between Smiley's saying he didn't have enough to scumread implo and voting implo.

Smiley, did you scumread Implo more based on 113? Why if so

not really interested in the Brigitte/Reality Check/Radiant discussion except to affirm that I buy both of Brigitte's/Reality Check's claims regarding eachother and have them both as town

I don't like! Why let them off the hook like this? If they're scum, they've bought themselves a very easy townread. But more than that, if they're scum and you're town, what could convince you to vacate that townread? Their play later on? This statement of yours bothers me

these are the kind of posts that make me start claiming guilties on people

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I don't like! Why let them off the hook like this? If they're scum, they've bought themselves a very easy townread. But more than that, if they're scum and you're town, what could convince you to vacate that townread? Their play later on? This statement of yours bothers me

I swear I remember scum!Yume making a post 90%ish the same as this.

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VOTE: Lovebird

What is going on with the biiird

what is this post and why does it exist

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Ok...

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Ok

Feeling better about exactly GL Alonzo Parm

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Alonzo acting like Lovebird was a power player who is underperforming this game is amusing

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I'm not even voting you...

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Like I think the fact that everyone rush wagoned you over Parm says quite clearly that he's more likely scum than you but if I fight it and you're scum I get quicklynched tomorrow and it's not worth throwing my slot into jeopardy for

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viewtopic.php?p=10678064&user_select%5B ... #p10678064

Let's talk

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In terms of Lovebird not posting enough here... ok

What was so town mvp about her that game

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Umm...

I nibbled at the green shoots of their blossom

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Alonzo/Parmigiana is the actual wolf wolf pair I think

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Lovebird can we discuss the nibbling at the green shoots of your blossom?

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lol

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RC is the closest I have to a confident townread

Guiltylion is the next closest

so not really no, this game hasn't progressed in a way that allows me to get trs easily

if RC can soul read Lovebird and has them as town, and you have RC as town, why vote Lovebird?

i definitely dont have lovebird as town fwiw just seems like an odd process

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You do think I'm literally the greatest ever right

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Shhhh

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other rc I think my vote will be on lovebird for the rest of the day

is this ok

No!!!,!!?"-+_8

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No bullying

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I feel very bullied

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No

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Stop it

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I've deither drank too much or not enough for this

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Fujc you

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Duckyoyfuck qhorw

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I'm mad

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Bot c eddie s with me

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Vote cheese wiyih me

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Alonzo is ok l ave the bird alone

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No

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What,?

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Shur up angela

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This is Dwight schrute and I am the assistant regional manager

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No

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Fuck this gNw

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I'm dearly hoping this was all just a meme

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Slash did if thrif but moe

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Ok???

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I refuse to townred you fuck this

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Spanish!!

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I actually had a minor panic attack over thsi...

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What

No I just didn't want to damage my town winrate based on your slot getting potentially dayvigged when a scum one could have you baka

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I didn't post that

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I'm not even sure how to feel

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Do you love me

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I would have won that game, if you didn't replace in

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not if I'm on the other team you won't

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lovebird was my fake mason buddy

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Still prefer parmigiana vote but I suppose I support Alonzo wagon

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Not sure what you're asking me

Also super confused why everyone but parmigiano is getting wagoned

VOTE: parmigiano

Starting to get wary of that fact and want to take the sure scum flip

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the posts that i already addressed as super good reasons to scumread them + the fact that, as i pointed out, everyone but them keeps getting wagoned

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yes

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GL why don't you vote parmigiana with me

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making it awfully hard for me to townread you

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Does anyone townread parmigiano

Can they explain why

Parmigiana how do you feel about my push on you?

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Varsoon I think it's bad for the games health to engage with you for reasons and I'm not particularly concerned with you endgaming as scum so...

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No one has tried to wagon you

I have been on cheese all day

And as everyone here can attest when I push people they tend to get wagoned

Cheese? Doesn't seem to be happening

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Perhaps I've been too gentle thus far

Sometimes the hand of fate must be forced

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If Alonzo flips town I'm calling the shots tomorrow and I'm going to be as forceful as I need to be to make that happen.

If I'm dead between then and now, it's because scum didn't want that so still lynching my scumreads tyty

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You're voting Alonzo.

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I would say you're bussing

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Available to talk right now no later this evening sure

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I feel like we're gonna Lynch town I'm gonna be nked and mbaki and others are gonna encourage people to forget I existed

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I 100% know Alonzo better than anyone else here

And I can't confidently say what his alignment is

I think that if you tell yourself that you can you're lying

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I have one full scumread and one mehscumread on his list

That said I think Varsoon is also more leanscum than leantown

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Oh two meh scumreads

Yeah this town is playing like ass right now

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Like I am basically writing off bad reads or pushing them in bad ways as a scumtell in this lobby because everyone is doing one or both

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In a few hours sure

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I'm just venting right now

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Brigitte placement is very silly to me but ok

Parmigiano needs death

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I think that Brigitte hiding in the neighborhood where I can't sort them and trying to pocket you is very scum motivated and I would expect them to fool you as scum

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Ftr I also scumread Varsoon but I'm not voting the HoMM3 player D1

That would be sacrilege

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Do you play HoMM3?

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This goes to both of you

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I'm not sure what he is.

That's why I'm reluctant to hard defend him.

I'm assuming he's town more bc he's the counterwagon to scum cheese

But like if I call him town and he flips scum cuz the wagons were SvS then I get lynched tomorrow instead which is no bueno

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Because you're scum?

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This lobby is kinda aids

So much open wolfing so little scumlynching

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Ok

I officially townread alonzo

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I did, they parried me

mbaki should I be townreading you

who has told you this is town RC?

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Literally no one townreads me this game is

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I didn't even read your post yet implo

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I mean I did now, but.

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tomorrow i'll be useful

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hey varsoon what's your favorite town in homm3

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if i don't like your answer you're getting lynched today

if i do like your answer you have immunity

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sun?

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alonzo's town btw

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michael scott i'm leaning town on as well

so

rc/rc/ms/alonzo/implo/lovebird/johnnyenglish

probably a d1 game solve townblock

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i should separate those into tiers because i'm not quite as sure in a few of those but

it's a good starting poitn

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wrong game

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i truly think that parmigiano flips scum and simultaneously breaks the game wide open.

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i still think that brigitte's push on me is both open wolfing and a scumclaim. particularly given that it's still going on. there's really no explanation for that coming from town. they make statements about how they feel about me ("you do know I feel like I'm walking around eggshells") as opposed to exhibiting it through their actual play and actions. there's no reason for them to be scumreading here and a shit ton of reasons for them to be townreading me here.

not a single engagement that they have made with me felt like they were actually trying to sort me, they just feel like they want to call me scum and not have it questioned.

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i think that people who aren't me need to push brigitte hard to give a reason for why they are scumreading me because I do not think that they can possibly justify having that read at this juncture.

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they aren't a player who can get away with just hiding behind 'ooh big spooky radiantcowbells its good as scum kill it with fire'

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they're also well aware that i prefer to avoid pushing on them and creating conflict with them and in fact i have a personal rule about nightkilling them as soon as possible.

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Sleepy

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ok varsoon isn't a today lynch

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i think this game has a policy of not wagoning anyone that i think might actually be scum

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holistic doesn't have a w

i rest my case

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oh i guess it is a variant spelling huh

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i think that we are not actually getting wagons on scum because people are busy murdering townies for doing eye catching things

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why can't i get a wagon going on him

not a single scum wants to get me to mislynch someone and then take the free, inevitable mislynch on me for having led on town?

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getting a parm wagon going will be a struggle. that's how you know it's a good wagon

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ms wagon would actually not be a struggle at all, a lot of people scumread them, including most of hte people in my lynchpool

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i don't want to wagon parm i want to lynch them

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Or a very bad one.

Funny because my unpopular scumread in dance was Nancy and we all see how that worked out

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Or a very bad one.

Funny because my unpopular scumread in dance was Nancy and we all see how that worked out

It's easy to only use points that support your case and ignore ones that refute it.

My finished games this year have been pretty fucking spectacular thanks.