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In post 25, Shoshin wrote:Hmm, not sure if RC's paranoia is fake or real. He knows at this point that he's paranoid of me every game but this seems a bit too soon for it, plus I feel like he'd probably wouldn't be coming after me like this so early.
no, definitely don't let the person with the best reads lead.
Of the three active posters I've played with before, I trust Urap over either of you. I don't know shoshin so that says nothing about her, but your reads were terrible last time we played.
There's not much to talk about. RC is still going at shoshin hard even without the vote, and my initial reaction is that it probably isn't SvS.
What reason does he have to stop going at her hard until someone else comes in the thread? You haven't given good reason for him to shift to you, and it would be really awkward for them to both agree to invite each other and then shut up.
In post 92, RadiantCowbells wrote:i don't think it's specifically paranoid of you for me to scumread you calling me scum on the first page right after I spelled out my feeling that scum's primary goal in this game is to attack my town standing.
I think if you're at all self-aware you probably expected that SOMEONE would scum read you for claiming that anyone scum reading you is scum in post 1
I don't think he is, though. Which is why I think his reads can't be trusted.
Naw. I don't think your town game is bad. I don't know that your reads are bad. I know you have a tendency to lose your sense of self and get far more paranoid than you should be and you spend more time in your own head than you do in the game now. You play like you're so scared to be wrong you won't let yourself be right. I want you out of your head playing the darn game. I don't want a repeat of marathon, and that's where it looks like this is heading. There's nothing personal here, I respect you as a person and a player, I just also want you playing your best, and the paranoia kills me. So does the relentless talking yourself up.
In post 149, Aubrey wrote:I’m tired of reading this idea that Paragons are going to just pick RC because he has a history. I’m not going to do that. If he does scummy shit, yea I’ll be nominating him. But voting someone because they solely have a rep is poor judgment.
In post 25, Shoshin wrote:Hmm, not sure if RC's paranoia is fake or real. He knows at this point that he's paranoid of me every game but this seems a bit too soon for it, plus I feel like he'd probably wouldn't be coming after me like this so early.
I agree that urap is probably town and I'll admit my thought process is a bit biased towards Paragon Game. My argument is that we flip shoshin and then if she flips scum, then RC is also scum. RC doesn't set up a game state in which both lurkers look very bad in the scenario that he is town.
If Shoshin flips town, then I think scum is both lurkers yesterday.
Yeah. I wanna say it's RC and Shoshin over anyone else. Shoshins early post are strangely antagonistic, IMO, and RC drops his scum read on her far too easily.
Also RC is weirdly pushing Saudade right now without any real actual push - he's just trying to get on Saudades nerves, it looks like, without actually pushing him as scum.
This especially - and the fact that she said it was a joke later - is pinging me. I doubt it's actually a joke in any sense of the word, it foreshadows the upcoming fight quite well, almost as if it is planned, and Shoshin can call out RC for being scummy because she knows he is scum.
Also RC seems to be very much trying to shirk responsibility for his reads, which isn't something I expect him to do - usually I expect him to attempt to solo carry the game
YOU CANNOT BUDDY ME AS SCUM IN A 5P SETUP WHERE I'M JUST GOING TO LEAD ON YOUR BUDDY.
This is over the top
In post 51, Shoshin wrote:If you're actually town, I'm replacing out of this RC.
This is over the top and an attempt at buddying
In post 58, Shoshin wrote:The fact RC's pushing my lynch means he's scum, period. He straight-up told me he felt uncomfortable pushing my lynch ever because he'd feel too bad about mislynching me, and that he'd replace out before pushing my lynch. This is scum RC.
Feels weird the way he had to go out of his way to say "town wins" when the only purpose of this post is to say that he doesn't want the paragons to win
None of Shoshins early posts read as town really at all. Or natural, even. Like every single one of them reads like this fight was planned, she's intentionally going over the top, and she has no intention of actually lynching RC. Both these players are supposedly (I don't know shoshin, so I'm not sure on her) strong enough to know you have to have an actual argument and neither of them work to build this.
RC knows he keeps a read after a 1v1 so he's trying to fake holding it here. Why say it, though? Why call her scum? Why unvote at all? Remember that RC voted Shoshin before shoshin voted RC. It's not like RCs vote is a response to Shoshin at all. He really doesn't have a reason to invite here
I'm saying with the way things look right now there has been a solid amount of shade thrown on both lurker slots. Giving the players that put that shade on your slot the power to control your reads feels like a bad move
The way the game was heading, MS and Sausage looked scummy before they even posted.
Telling the players who are making you look scummy when you haven't posted a thing is rarely going to end in victory if you're scum.
This especially builds towards what I'm talking about, actually.
If MS is scum he wants to be dismissive of RC as a scum hunter due to the fact that the game is in a place where everyone is looking very closely at MS and Saudade to be scum.
In post 516, Shoshin wrote:It feels like paragons want RC lynched so they don't have to sort him. I don't see Enter's analysis coming from a genuine attempt to sort the game.
This is more of what I was talking about up there, but I'll address some down here since y'all are probably curious
@Shoshin I have never at any point in time suggested we lynch RC
Also why would I not sort the game. This argument is bad and you should feel bad.
You're missing the larger more important part of my posts, RC. I'm still trying to sort you. Do you disagree that Shoshin is likely scum and MS is likely town?