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Post Post #493 (isolation #0) » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:09 pm

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hello everyone! i should be able to read everything by tonight. let me know if there's anything interesting to look at.
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Post Post #501 (isolation #1) » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:58 pm

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i've been stalking Flavour Leaf for a few weeks now.
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Post Post #547 (isolation #2) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:36 am

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In post 140, Flavor Leaf wrote:@TLK - Burke’s driving me crazy with this talk. You KNOW he’d say literally all of this as scum, and be okay with it being scummy.

I’ve literally seen him feign noob towniness before in real life, but I’ve seen him be a big town noob too.

Everything that he posts makes me want to scream that he’s scum :lol:
i've just gotten here and i have to agree with the feeling.
but so far, the game seems rather casual. it's kind of a nice change of pace. glad i jumped in.
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Post Post #548 (isolation #3) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:41 am

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was fully expecting to just assume Flavor Leaf is scum for this game (i think he knows why) but he's ended up as my only townread so far.
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Post Post #549 (isolation #4) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:48 am

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L84Dnr is town, Creature's probably scum. that's three, this game's fun.
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Post Post #552 (isolation #5) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:19 am

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VOTE: Scepticism
Burke could go either way for me right now.
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Post Post #611 (isolation #6) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:53 am

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In post 579, u r a person 2 wrote:Okay, that's all I'm doing right now

@Chara and Scepticism - I'd really appreciate it if the two of you could give some thoughts on some of what I've posted
i'll do that.
i think there's at least two scum in Scept/Creature/Easy Bake. Creature doesn't get a wagon because it's not as useful for reading him. i'd lynch him if i'm very sure he's scum, which i think he could be. but for now i'm okay given him another chance just to be completely sure.

Easy Bake is just generically scummy.
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Post Post #612 (isolation #7) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:57 am

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Scept just gives me a not-town feeling. the reason for scumreading wilky (who isn't that towny, yes) doesn't feel very good here, might be the way he gives "short posts that lack oomph" as a reason to justify what is actually a gut read as he said. seems like extraneous information and if i was going to go all the way on it i'd say it's there as justification a gutread doesn't need.
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Post Post #613 (isolation #8) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:01 am

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In post 605, Dr Easy Bake wrote:Overall here are my reads:

Most Dolphinately Scum In My Opinion:
Brother Sandal (read my previous posts)

Possibly Scum:
The First Queen (leaning towards not though)
Creature (scummy behavior but I’m entertained and don’t want them gone first day)
nippyFlips (could go either way for me, too flippy)

Probably Town:
i m an animal 4 (only reason not definite is the smoker avatar)
Persivul (only reason not definite is because they’re so quiet, only 16 posts, and I don’t truly grasp this whole “by the book” thing)
Early for Lunch (just a gut feeling)

Most Dolphinately Town In My Opinion:
Bland Branch (too damn helpful)
Vedith (just a gut feeling)

I’m unsure about the rest of ye.
this is either trolly town (and i'm not referring to the name jokes) or just scum. why did you decide to make a readlist here with your reads as they are?
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Post Post #617 (isolation #9) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:18 am

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In post 614, Dr Easy Bake wrote:I mean other people have posted similar lists so I thought it’d be a good way to let y’all know my thoughts and a good way for me to organize and work out my thoughts. I don’t know what about it makes me scummy.
a number of the reads seem rather arbitrary. i suppose gut-based reads are fine.
i'll admit i didn't think about someone new to forum mafia simply copying the readlist format they saw a bunch of other people doing, even without strong backing for a lot of the reads.
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Post Post #620 (isolation #10) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:28 am

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when you have very few strong reads, yes, i find it surprising.
but as Flavor pointed out, this is sort of like a newbie game. and a lot of players just like doing them anyway.
i personally don't find them useful when a lot of the reads are just "eh i might as well put this player here". at that point it becomes more about finding a place for that player than actually reading them.
does that make sense?
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Post Post #623 (isolation #11) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:37 am

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hm, i think Easy Bake's inched out of my scumlist.

and yes, i didn't mean i thought you were doing it randomly, but personally i'm more interested in the reads you really believe in and less in the ones that could go either way. think i'm in the minority there.

regarding Burke: i believe Flavor when he says Burke is capable of using his newness to his advantage.
however, the way Burke has done it reminds me less of scum trying to use that to justify themself. i'd need to really comb the posts to explain why but you're right in that it feels contradictory (and is) in the things he chooses to know already/have to ask about.
it's really very sloppy. comfortable at scum or not, i think if Burke's scum he's too comfortable.
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Post Post #625 (isolation #12) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:54 am

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you know, now that you bring up the confidence issue, i do see it. (perhaps you did before and i forgot.)

especially the way he's acted upon getting votes.
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Post Post #671 (isolation #13) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:31 am

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Creature, how are you reading me?
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Post Post #677 (isolation #14) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:13 am

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In post 673, Flavor Leaf wrote:I don’t see Burken as the lynch for the day.

Nah, this is probably town Creature. I have a blind spot for him, though.
blind spot notwithstanding, i'd like to hear why this is town Creature.
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Post Post #681 (isolation #15) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:30 am

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i don't think the meta is right. it isn't that scum Creature doesn't post. he's perfectly capable of continuing to fluff as scum.

i'm in agreement that i don't want him lynched day 1, however. if he's town he can show it evenrually.
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Post Post #682 (isolation #16) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:44 am

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on a second look i think i'm scumreading him less than i was. Creature does seem pretty relaxed here and i actually think the "i'm funnier when i'm town" bit is true.

and i know you don't really read me well, but i was wondering what you thought, Creature.

to whoever asked, i'm scumreading Burke and Scept about the same. but we're slowly working through.
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Post Post #683 (isolation #17) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:47 am

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In post 568, u r a person 2 wrote:[No response from TLK and no follow up from Wilky]

This exchange feels like it has at least one scum in it
i'd be more likely to vote TLK over wilky given the choice.
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Post Post #686 (isolation #18) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:55 am

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Creature, i've metadived you in previous games and i'm aware you can post content as scum. don't pretend you haven't before. :>
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Post Post #687 (isolation #19) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:56 am

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In post 684, u r a person 2 wrote:Why TLK over wilky?
posts and .
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Post Post #692 (isolation #20) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:09 pm

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In post 689, Flavor Leaf wrote:This isn’t even literally my meta on him.

Creature will even bring up that that’s typically his meta and he hates that people think he’s that surface.
i don't think i'm understanding then. you don't think his meta is surface, or you do? i'm saying it isn't as obvious as his reputation states all the time (though sometimes it is) but your description of his meta seems rather surface.
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Post Post #694 (isolation #21) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:11 pm

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In post 688, Creature wrote:Meh, whatever. So why were you complaining about me not posting content again?
because i think town you does more of it in a way i can follow, unless you're not into the game. which i've also seen happen.
but that's tendencies and not a hard and fast rule. hence why i'm not gunning for your lynch.

pedit: what is that last post responding to, Flavor?
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Post Post #695 (isolation #22) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:12 pm

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In post 690, Flavor Leaf wrote:I feel like I always get gut scum read on you Chara.
do you?
maybe we have more games together than i'm remembering right now.
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Post Post #696 (isolation #23) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:13 pm

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disregard that question, i missed TLK's post to you there.
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Post Post #700 (isolation #24) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:20 pm

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i remember that game too. it haunts me.
was more asking about games where we were town together and you gutscumread me, however. the one where you were scum is very fresh in my mind precisely because of my clear getting lynched.

don't feel much like talking more about Creature, as my argument has never been that he must be scum here for meta, but rather that he's not out of his scumrange. i'd rather see him chat with other players. he may dislike being scum but he isn't so poor at it that he lurks a game from start to finish every single time.
and i also could see him being town here for what i said earlier.

do you agree with TLK scum?
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Post Post #734 (isolation #25) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:16 am

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VOTE: TLK
Nips wagon isn't good.
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Post Post #735 (isolation #26) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:18 am

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In post 729, The Last Knight wrote:Hmm Nips would make sense. But if this is true, I don't think Dr Easy Bake is scum. I'll put my vote here.

VOTE: Emperor flippyNips
why does Nips make sense? simply for not making waves?
why does your Doc scumread now not matter in the face of this?
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Post Post #738 (isolation #27) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:25 am

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Nips suddenly getting three votes consecutively on the basis of not making a stir doesn't make me think the wagon is likely to flip scum.

Flavor: do you have a read on Vedith?
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Post Post #765 (isolation #28) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:38 am

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In post 763, L84Dnr wrote:Burkenstock's my bet too. I can make a case for Flippy but not nearly as strong a case.

Scepticism's been awfully quiet for somebody who voted based on low activity.

VOTE: Scepticism

Hey Scepticism, pipe up! Hopefully before you get replaced.
i could still go for Scept here, especially if 4 scum is legitimate. (which i lean towards.)

but what's your opinion on TLK?
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Post Post #766 (isolation #29) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:40 am

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In post 755, Flavor Leaf wrote:Vedith is probably town. I feel like as scum he’d be more focused somewhere.

And he said he’s paranoid of me because I’m so townie
can you go into this more? scum Vedith wouldn't be sheeping a wagon here?
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Post Post #789 (isolation #30) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:25 am

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In post 784, Emperor flippyNips wrote:VOTE: burke

Might as well have my vote on him if me and him are the the only possible lynches
TLK wagon is there for the forming.
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Post Post #790 (isolation #31) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:29 am

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In post 776, Flavor Leaf wrote:I think Wilky/L8 probably has some scum in them.
why's that? i'm townreading L8 and wilky doesn't have anything i especially dislike.

of nips and Burke i don't know if i have a strong preference. i'm not sure what that means in relation to TLK, either.
push comes to shove i think i'd prefer a Burke lynch over nips. but that's without taking into account that Flippy wagon was started by Burke and then sheeped, and if Flippy is town i'd say one of the followers is more likely scum.
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Post Post #791 (isolation #32) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:30 am

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still think Bake is town, too. does a scum newbie really follow his scumread's preferred wagon like this? but it doesn't seem like he's taking that part into account anyway, and i kind of believe it.
he felt town earlier, too.
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Post Post #792 (isolation #33) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:32 am

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in the end i'd prefer a wagon that wasn't Burke or Flippy. TLK is better, Scept is also better. i disagree with Flavor that Scept is a fall guy. doesn't feel that way to me with the way that Flippy and Burke's wagons are.
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Post Post #793 (isolation #34) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:37 am

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i certainly understand the "i want a wagon" mindset but if you don't care too much who the wagon is on, it's going to hit town. scum are going to vote to lynch town and with that mindset it's so very easy to vote for a mislynch and say "i wasn't townreading him, that's all."

i dislike the Flippy wagon because it feels exactly like that sort of compromise. he isn't a major scumread for anyone as far as i can see.
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Post Post #865 (isolation #35) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:11 pm

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In post 855, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’d just like to bring up the mere fact that there is ZERO support for the L8 wagon, yet I’m not being targeted.
why would anyone target you? your invitation to do so was so blatant i would've been floored if anyone had. you picked a wagon there was no support for while being pretty townread. nothing happening is the least surprising outcome to me.
i just don't see the conclusion here or really why L8 is scum.
TLK wagon is the one being ignored here.
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Post Post #901 (isolation #36) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:33 pm

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my impression of scum Flavor is a sweet talker. i think it's feasible town Flavor would be wary of being sheeped on a wrong read, while scum Flavor would not be spewing his thoughts the way he has here.

really interested in your Scept townread, particularly how you got Marv town.
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Post Post #902 (isolation #37) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:34 pm

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oh, and the scumread on me too, you can talk about that.
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Post Post #903 (isolation #38) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:36 pm

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VOTE: Wilky
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Post Post #904 (isolation #39) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:39 pm

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In post 839, Flavor Leaf wrote:Honestly, I could Lynch L8. He’s making solid points, but he’s very black and white with everything except when it’s convenient for him, a la the Wilky defense.

His push towards Creature he definitely had the better side of logic, but the points didn’t make Creature scum.

Why are you town reading Flips?
your L8 read is the thing i keep coming back to not really understanding.
why is the Wilky defense convenient for L8 in a world where Wilky is town, first of all?
you're pretty committed to this scumread but i wonder if it's a bad gamestate read. i'm not good at reading gamestates, but i'm pretty fair at accruing townreads.
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Post Post #905 (isolation #40) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:43 pm

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In post 795, L84Dnr wrote:
In post 765, Chara wrote:
In post 763, L84Dnr wrote:Burkenstock's my bet too. I can make a case for Flippy but not nearly as strong a case.

Scepticism's been awfully quiet for somebody who voted based on low activity.

VOTE: Scepticism

Hey Scepticism, pipe up! Hopefully before you get replaced.
i could still go for Scept here, especially if 4 scum is legitimate. (which i lean towards.)

but what's your opinion on TLK?
I'm just concerned that it's another wasted vote because Scepticism is about to be replaced.

I haven't seen anything obvious from TLK but haven't looked very hard TBH. What's your case against him?

I think that Flippy's a bad Day 1 mislynch. Look at the pattern of votes with me, Flippy and Burke:

- I vote Burke
- Burke OMGUS votes me
- I unvote Burke
- Burke OMGUDSTM unvotes me
- Flippy votes Burke for that
- Burke OMGUS votes Flippy

The easy explanation for that pattern is that Burke is n00b scum, which I still favour. His play is almost entirely reactionary.

If either I or Flippy are scum that makes a lot less sense. It could be a shitty attempt to wagon town but we'd have to have pooched it pretty badly.

We could all be town but that's hard to reconcile with Burke's style.
sorry L8, i missed this post. i pointed out some TLK posts i didn't like earlier but i can get a better case for you in the morning.

as far as an L8 scumread goes, i can't muster it. only in a lategame deep scum sort of way. and only in a paranoid "his play is too solid to be town" sort of way. in other words, without flips that correspond to him being scum in his play here i find it very hard to pursue.
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Post Post #907 (isolation #41) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:47 pm

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Burke's so hard to read. he's happy with every wagon but i don't know him well enough to say if that's scummy or not.

Burke, what's your read on me and TLK?
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Post Post #908 (isolation #42) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:48 pm

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and why you have said read would be good too. i have to sleep. <3
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Post Post #911 (isolation #43) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:55 pm

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you'll have to be a whole lot sexier than that, Shii. your gut might be broken, though. i heard ginger is good for that.

pedit: i appreciate the answer nonetheless. and i replaced Yellow Snow.
why don't you want to lead onto TLK?
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Post Post #912 (isolation #44) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:57 pm

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In post 909, Shiidaji wrote:Marv's three little bitty posts give me happy feelings and then Scept re-affirmed my read when he replaced in. In fact, Scepts replacement in comparison to yours is a big reason why I think you're scum!
so is it gut, or is there something more? i want you to dig deep and bare your soul to me. we can make this an enemies to lovers romance if you really want.
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Post Post #917 (isolation #45) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:07 pm

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In post 901, Chara wrote:my impression of scum Flavor is a sweet talker. i think it's feasible town Flavor would be wary of being sheeped on a wrong read, while scum Flavor would not be spewing his thoughts the way he has here.
how accurate is this?
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Post Post #921 (isolation #46) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:09 pm

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i don't know, i find Shii to be somehow magnetic, like a troublemaking man every woman gets the urge to fix.
is this... love?!
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Post Post #924 (isolation #47) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:13 pm

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i don't have very many games with you, but in this list i believe the only other player i have a significant history with would be Creature. Persivul i've played with as well, but he's gone.
to answer you Shii, i don't believe Vedith and i have significant experience together. i've seen him around the site, but that's all.
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Post Post #929 (isolation #48) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:22 pm

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In post 926, Shiidaji wrote:alrighty Chara well I hope someone here I like knows you well so I can gossip w them about you! Probably tomorrow midday. You're not getting lynched D1 anyway so if you're actually town I'm sure we'll get along just fine eventually!
we're already getting along just fine.
i hope you find someone to gossip about me with.
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Post Post #930 (isolation #49) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:25 pm

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why did this game have to get fun at 3am?
why does my heart beat so fast whenever Shii posts..? why won't Shii notice me.....?
the Marv townread is pretty wild, it'd be good to explain both of those reads. Shii didn't reply when i asked why i was scum, either, or what us two replacements have to do with each other.
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Post Post #935 (isolation #50) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:35 pm

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it's okay, Shii's playing hard to get.
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Post Post #938 (isolation #51) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:42 pm

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it is worth noting that i don't often play Normals. the only reason i repped in was because i was trying to get a scumgame in. i asked to replace in for Marv first, but was too late and got the slot after.

i figure the odds of one of the lurking slots being scum was high-ish. the one i ended up replacing in for was town, so barring some extremely towny behaviour from Scept, it's probably never going to leave my scumlist.
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Post Post #940 (isolation #52) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:46 pm

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it's like the Monty Hall problem but with replacement slots. and only two doors. and no goats.
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Post Post #999 (isolation #53) » Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:10 pm

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i'm really surprised if that's a scumkill after what i said about Creature being in his scumrange.

i also don't really blame Deb for the hammer. were this a proper newbie game i would have warned about asking for claims, but i wasn't thinking about that in spite of all of the players here new to the site.

don't lolhammer at L-1. give intent and get a claim. if wilky had had his chance to claim we could have lynched someone else, because disloyal vigilante is a ridiculously strong PR you have no choice but to let live to see if they hit some scum or not.
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Post Post #1087 (isolation #54) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:27 am

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In post 1027, u r a person 2 wrote:@insomnia

Oooh, buddy, rolled scum this game, eh?
talk about what pinged you here?

VOTE: TLK
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Post Post #1088 (isolation #55) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:28 am

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but i also find it towny. there's an ego to it that i think comes far more from town who feels justified in what he says than scum who is happy to have apparently gotten away with hammering the vig.
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Post Post #1089 (isolation #56) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:34 am

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In post 1041, Shiidaji wrote:after Scept and Flippy did. I assumed this was during Chara's catch-up, which meant Chara was keeping up with the thread and trying to "fit in" with what's going on currently instead of focusing on their re-read to discern scum. That feels self-conscious to me.
i always keep up with the thread while catching up. if players are online and posting i'll have one tab to keep an eye on that and the other to keep reading, because reading is boring.
and yes, i wanted to get a word in on the Flavor joke.
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Post Post #1092 (isolation #57) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:37 am

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In post 1041, Shiidaji wrote:I like quick curt comments like this and generally townread them when they seem brash and posted without thinking. That's reflected in my D1 Creature read. The wagon vote, a read that I agree with and a read that I know is correct, and the prod dodge that isn't some long-winded excuse followed by a replacement all lean me towards town. To me scum are more inclined to provide fluff or false content to fill out their prod dodge posts because it helps them coast more smoothly. That is where my head was at!
i can understand this as a townlean i suppose, but it all feels fairly weak. it's very very null to me.
voting with your thoughts at the time is something, though. but i didn't find Scept's replacement to be anything but underwhelming.
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Post Post #1096 (isolation #58) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:44 am

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In post 1090, insomnia wrote:I'm not sure on Chara. They're pushing a scum agenda on Me/Creature/DEB on post 611 and then on 623 they clear DEB and their town read on my slot and on creature "gets better" after 623. I'm not sure how to read them at the moment because they claimed 2 scum in that post, but they ended up pushing a TLK scum agenda and clearing every single person on 611 (at least for the moment). They've also voted for Wilky despite not giving any sort of opinion on the slot. That's why I'd like to ask @Chara if they have any more scum reads other than TLK at the moment. I am at a null right now on Chara, comfortable with my current town reads, they're the most obvious ones for me.
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and i certainly never cleared Creature. i said FL shouldn't be townreading him, because he was certainly playing in a way that could be his scumgame, and the only reason i didn't wagon him D1 was because i knew Creature would be obvious given more time. he doesn't respond in any good way as town to a wagon, so that form of interrogation would be useless.
i consider myself pretty good at reading him.

as for the wilky vote, he was a nullish scum read, and only because i didn't have much reason to think he was town. i'm annoyed that i didn't think to warn anyone about the L-1 issue, because i joined the wagon to better read wilky and those on the wagon. i expected someone on or off it to question my vote for precisely the reason of my not mentioning him much beforehand. and then things happened while i was offline.
i should've thought about the gamestate better when trying that, really. i don't think he was very towny but his claim would have been a 100% "lets wagon someone else".
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Post Post #1098 (isolation #59) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:51 am

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u2: i didn't like Scept, still don't like insomnia. i thought his reaction to you questioning his Pers read was over the top and i'd call him a good candidate for scum given his posting and my reads on the rest of the list.
it's not a very strong read, though. i'm more comfortable trying to find more players i can write off as town and then making a PoE based on that.

it's mostly that really hit me as defensive, because if insomnia's read makes so much sense he has nothing to fear from one player throwing shade.
and the post about me is more one i don't fully understand because it doesn't feel like he actually parsed half the posts in my ISO.

pedit: i like easy to read players.
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Post Post #1108 (isolation #60) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:05 am

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In post 1101, insomnia wrote:I exaggerated on the clear part, but it seemed you had conflicting thoughts regarding Creature being scum. Am I wrong? You've also said you don't want them lynched day one,because he can clear himself as town. So claiming that you don't get the nk on him because you said he was in his scum range despite having conflicting thoughts is not a failproof reason to tr and I can see you using that as a reason to get out of a lynch.
my thoughts there aren't very conflicting. half of those posts you quoted are me doing things like questioning TRs on Creature (like FL, whose meta i didn't agree with at all) or explaining why he could absolutely be scum here. he even tried to say he had posted content so i shouldn't be scumreading him, when both he and i know scum Creature can post content.
i've mislynched Creature before so i simply wanted to be sure. if he'd continued to play today like he had day 1 i'm sure i would have lynched him. if he's a player i feel i can surely catch, of course i'm going to wait on lynching him until i'm 100%. there's no reason to rush into it.
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Post Post #1109 (isolation #61) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:06 am

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In post 1105, insomnia wrote:Here Chara:

Newbie 1918 - Scum game won by le moi
Donner Dinner Party - Town game, ez scumhunt
is this your only scum game?
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Post Post #1115 (isolation #62) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:09 am

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and why would scum me want to get out of a lynch on Creature? if that's what you meant.
he was a traitor, i would not have known he was on my team.
and avoiding the lynch on him only to then nightkill him makes even less sense, because the only reason to avoid that lynch would be A) i figured out he was the traitor, or B) i wanted to mislynch him later.
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Post Post #1116 (isolation #63) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:10 am

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In post 1111, insomnia wrote:I can't respond to that question, rules.
yes you can. i'm talking about completed games.
is this your only completed scumgame viewable on mafiascum?
better?
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Post Post #1117 (isolation #64) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:11 am

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In post 1112, Vedith wrote:Insomnia replaced in for PvT as Scum in that branching mafia and I lynched him \o/
In post 1113, Vedith wrote:But it was already set as a Scum slot.
In post 1114, insomnia wrote:
In post 1113, Vedith wrote:But it was already set as a Scum slot.
Yeah, so it was mainly me messing around, it's not my usual scum play
okay, so the newbie was it.
if Vedith says you're easy to read i'll listen when he does get his read, but with only one real scumgame i'm going to take the meta with a grain of salt.
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Post Post #1125 (isolation #65) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:20 am

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In post 1118, Flavor Leaf wrote:I wouldn’t have caught Creature ever this game.

He’s my blindspot. Let’s try to NKA. Who kills Creature but doesn’t think he could be their traitor?
your idea of Creature's meta is wrong, that's the problem. i'm fairly confident my idea about him is right.

and that's an avenue i like. if this
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pedit: i could have sworn you were scumreading L8. when did that change?
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Post Post #1133 (isolation #66) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:24 am

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he was insomnia's alt, i don't see how that's confusing!
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Post Post #1146 (isolation #67) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:15 pm

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it had nothing to do with u2's post, no.
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Post Post #1173 (isolation #68) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:58 am

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i'm developing such a headache but i think Shii's case is good. huzzah. also haven't given the Vedith thing the time it deserves but i haven't found him very towny so far.
please poke me on this later if i forget.
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Post Post #1246 (isolation #69) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:00 pm

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In post 1231, The Last Knight wrote:
In post 1042, insomnia wrote:
In post 1021, u r a person 2 wrote:
In post 1019, Flavor Leaf wrote:But it looks like strong scum play to me, and that’s what’s sticking out for me the most right now.
yah it does

VOTE: shiijadi
You are voting an informed townie claim on day one, hope you realise what you're doing
In post 1048, insomnia wrote:Send me one scum game where Persivul claims anything as scum, bolded, on day one, on the first page and after you'll tell me you didn't find anything, convince me why he'd start doing it now.

VOTE: urap2

You're making my post seem scummy and you're trying to throw shade on me, when my read makes perfect sense

I was getting pinged by the posts leading up to this, but I like this post from you, Insomnia. Although, that's because it's true, for your posts do seem scummy leading up to this point.

It feels like you're trying to gain town points by arguing so heavily in favor of conftown Shiidaji. And then you become aware of it after the fact. Stinks, man.

I'll vote there.

VOTE: Insomnia
i like this from TLK.
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Post Post #1248 (isolation #70) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:06 pm

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i'm liking TLK's posting in general a lot more today.
as well. and when he throws back to previous stances he's had it feels like a genuine memory of a read rather than something he came to after the fact.

pedit: let's see.
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Post Post #1250 (isolation #71) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:09 pm

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In post 1247, u r a person 2 wrote:@chara What do you think about him basically contradicting that post in the next post?
i see what.. might be viewed as a contradiction, but it doesn't look like one when i think about it.
he's saying insomnia makes posts that sound towny, an indicator of good scum, but which won't be enough to overwrite the scummy behaviour of previous slots. and that it looks like he's trying too hard for towncred, and using Shiidaji slot for towncred.

am i misunderstanding/missing something?
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Post Post #1258 (isolation #72) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:42 pm

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In post 1254, u r a person 2 wrote:And I wish I hadn't asked you before finishing with TLK because he basically just took the out, but I get ansy =/
i had thought about waiting to answer because it might give him an out, but... everything i said was just a summary of what TLK had already said, so i don't think there was an out to take.

and i was also scumreading Scept, so the read doesn't exactly surprise me. scumreading lurky/wooden content isn't especially odd from TLK, i think.
"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
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Post Post #1259 (isolation #73) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:43 pm

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In post 1254, u r a person 2 wrote:And the progression is weird where he thinks the posts are townie, but he can't outlive the predecessors, but he also finds insomnia's posts scummy and... it just doesn't sound like an actual thought process.
what i got from it was he thinks they sound towny, not that he thinks they're towny. i also thought insomnia's concentration on Shii being conftown was strange.
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Post Post #1265 (isolation #74) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:03 pm

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town, now.
i thought he was pretty scummy earlier, but this day i think his posting has really picked up.
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Post Post #1268 (isolation #75) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:19 pm

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UNVOTE:
so i was.
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Post Post #1303 (isolation #76) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:38 am

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In post 1301, Shiidaji wrote:I like to picture it in my head that they think they are well equipped to mislynch me eventually That or because my D1 reads fit into their agenda for today.
i might actually agree with this considering where your reads were at the time. but you've been continually sorting since you got in which is a good indicator for you being town, if i hadn't already been townreading you.
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Post Post #1304 (isolation #77) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:41 am

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does insomnia have a counterwagon right now? i'm not sure of the count.
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Post Post #1306 (isolation #78) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:54 am

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thanks for reminding me this was a Normal.
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Post Post #1322 (isolation #79) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:34 pm

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In post 1314, Shiidaji wrote:Chara hi honey how do u read none of L8, TLK nor URA making a kneejerk reaction fuss abt my insomnia vote? I just said I need to reread everything about his latest interactions, and the last time i mentioned the insom slot I said I had a townread on the slot.
i'm not sure how much to get out of it, since upon a reread of interactions having a read change doesn't really surprise me.
and would they make a fuss about you voting their preferred lynch?
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Post Post #1323 (isolation #80) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:35 pm

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In post 1317, The Last Knight wrote:Bruh, what happen?
echoing this, unless i missed something.
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Post Post #1326 (isolation #81) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:55 pm

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didn't know that about L8. interested to see what he has to say about it given your context.
and i assume you mean you had insomnia slot as your biggest townread up until now.
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Post Post #1350 (isolation #82) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:09 pm

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mod: v/la this weekend until sunday.
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Post Post #1351 (isolation #83) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:12 pm

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In post 1335, The Last Knight wrote:UNVOTE: Insomnia

Okay hold on. Let's chill a sec until a few people say some shit. It's been almost two days since some people spoke up. I want to hear what they have to say.
locktownimg this if insomniac flips town.
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Post Post #1352 (isolation #84) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:14 pm

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VOTE: Vedith
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Post Post #1355 (isolation #85) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:02 pm

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you're not confident flips is town anymore?
i also don't have any amazing scumreads but that's the usual. i'm confident enough in Shii town that i'm willing to play by his rhythm.
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Post Post #1357 (isolation #86) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:47 am

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didn't like Vedith's focus on Deb for the hammer and how he quickly backed off on it. i don't see a lot of belief in his reads and i didn't really like the TLK vote.
haven't seen much reason to have him as town.

might pop in a few times over the weekend.
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Post Post #1406 (isolation #87) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:29 pm

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i see my name. hi!

i'm also not seeing scum Flavor Leaf here. especially over calling both wagons town. considering i'm also feeling like voting off wagon, and how much he tryhards as scum making me not consider it scum-indicative, it's just not really hitting for me.

i can see how it could come off as insincere, but i think this is just closer to town him in how he isn't fervently trying to get you back on his side, but is just being honest about what he's doing right now.

i know Flavor is aware enough of his meta to fake it, but there's nothing here that i'd look at without flip evidence that he's trying to distract from a buddy.

i'll look at TLK again, i have a little time. but my Vedith vote makes me happy and i'd like him to get more scrutiny. it doesn't feel he's had any.

pedit: you're both still talking about me! i love it.
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Post Post #1408 (isolation #88) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:31 pm

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did you really? what changed your mind on him?
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Post Post #1410 (isolation #89) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:33 pm

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i don't know if i believe you. i know you said he was your blindspot, but you were townreading him. and even the meta i gave amounted to assuring that i could scumread him with certainty (or realize i was wrong) given more in-game time.

pedit: okay, i see.
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Post Post #1414 (isolation #90) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:39 pm

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now, the other two things aside, why would i hate you for it? that'd be pretty silly.
Flavor, would you vote Vedith with me?

pedit: staying quiet while the two of you debate townreads on me is a physical impossibility. i also love talking about myself.

peditx2: :<
i said i'd take another look at TLK.
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Post Post #1415 (isolation #91) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:41 pm

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L8 has a lot of posts in isolation i might have a tendency to scumread, but overall i think he's more likely scum than town.
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Post Post #1416 (isolation #92) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:42 pm

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...more likely town than scum is what i meant.
might go to bed after all.
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Post Post #1418 (isolation #93) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:44 pm

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In post 1278, insomnia wrote:L8 has me as a scum read and you are agreeing with him. You contradicting yourself twice in a row now is concerning, mainly because I get pushed by L8 so you cling on this push with him to get suspicion off of you. You're a rather opportunistic fella, I see.

So many scum slips coming from you, TLK
mayhe i'm still interested in insomnia after all. why did i stop liking the wagon?
i think it was because it felt inevitable and inevitable usually equals town, but maybe that was premature.
but that means rereading so many pages and i'm too tired. i'll do it after my V/LA ends.
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Post Post #1421 (isolation #94) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:07 pm

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do you think he's capable of doing that every time?
i'm always wary of one-game meta.
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Post Post #1422 (isolation #95) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:09 pm

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i don't know about other players, but my own scumgame zigzags wildly in quality (along with my towngame) so even if he had one good one i don't know if i'd use that to say every one after that must also be really good.
not to mention i don't think insomnia has done anything particularly "bad" so far.
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Post Post #1581 (isolation #96) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:30 pm

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did i miss the reason we're voting Flavor over the Vedith guilty specifically?
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Post Post #1582 (isolation #97) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:31 pm

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i'll be honest, some of the claims are going a little over my head. i'm going to do better and look at the setup properly now.
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Post Post #1583 (isolation #98) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:31 pm

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In post 1581, Chara wrote:did i miss the reason we're voting Flavor over the Vedith guilty specifically?
i just realized it was because u2 died and his results are confirmed. carry on.
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Post Post #1584 (isolation #99) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:34 pm

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so in terms of flipped roles there's a goon, a traitor, a disloyal vigilante, and a 3 shot loyal neighbourizer who successfully baited the scum kill once he was out of shots. (good job u2)
unless i missed that he claimed limited shots, but i don't believe he did. anyway, it isn't important.

and flavor claims odd-night disloyal even-night loyal something.
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Post Post #1586 (isolation #100) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:38 pm

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In post 1569, Flavor Leaf wrote:Can you just wait...I’m in the city.

Burkenstock slot, i have a soft inno on you
why are you telling players you have specific innos on them rather than telling the thread what your results are? townies already know they're townies.
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Post Post #1587 (isolation #101) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:39 pm

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In post 1585, Flavor Leaf wrote:Night 1/2 Loyal Night 3/4 Disloyal Vanilla cop.
thanks for the clarification.
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Post Post #1612 (isolation #102) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:00 pm

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i have too much of a headache to properly read this all right now, but i would like to say i'm really, really enjoying it.
let's not rush the lynch here until i can actually read it all. i won't be mad if you don't listen to that, but there's the request. <3
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Post Post #1742 (isolation #103) » Sun Mar 31, 2019 12:28 pm

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hey friends, going to try to not be absent today. in fairness i think both of the quick days i wasn't here ended in scum lynches, but i'd still like to participate. :>
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Post Post #1744 (isolation #104) » Sun Mar 31, 2019 12:35 pm

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sounds like one of us is bad luck.
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Post Post #1752 (isolation #105) » Sun Mar 31, 2019 4:26 pm

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pros: player we want alive is alive.
cons: zero chance of stopping the kill.
considering the chance of a nokill i'm not sure what's optimal. but i'm okay discussing it at the very least.
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Post Post #1764 (isolation #106) » Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:22 pm

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In post 1761, RAS wrote:I should mention that I've put in no effort whatsoever into reading Chara, and I'm hoping that they will post more today so I can get some type of interactions with that slot. However, I want to focus on the two players who I've had the chance to interact with before going into reading that slot if I can help it.
you'll see plenty from me, provided we don't rush the day. i've been rather busy irl.
i just got quicklynched because i had a shift, so i would appreciate it not happening again. just push me while i'm online and you'll see i'm town. <3

(see you all tomorrow.)
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Post Post #1765 (isolation #107) » Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:24 pm

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so RAS replaced Burke.

i've been townreading DEB so i'll have to see why he's scum.
i'm suspicious of Vedith but i'm pretty sure interactions with Flavor clear him. i'll need to actually look. agree he doesn't die today.
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Post Post #1773 (isolation #108) » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:40 pm

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thanks for reminding me that i called two scum in .
when i have some time tomorrow i'll look into whether i was right on the third or right in my reassessment (where i moved him to town) of DEB.
game is moving slow because we happen to be busy, i think. should clear up shortly.
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Post Post #1774 (isolation #109) » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:45 pm

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after going through the rest of the post and reminding myself i why i townread DEB, i think i still do.
we have one scum to find and three dead scum to comb for interactions. i'd find it pretrty embarrassing if we lost in the endgame here so i'd also urge everyone not to rush the day. this isn't the time to get more information, it's the time to carefully comb the information we already have to find the final scum.
RAS is already doing that. i'm wary of the slot because it's Burke, but i also believe his contributions have been good so far. i'll need to look at the interactions properly myself, but for now it's a thumbs up from me.
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Post Post #1775 (isolation #110) » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:49 pm

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right, and you asked about interactions with Vedith, RAS. i'm going to do a proper joint ISO of those two tomorrow as well. i seem to remember them having fairly natural conversations.
i do want to look into why Flavor chose to attempt to mislynch L8 instead of Vedith, his soft guilty. it's either that he figured out Vedith's claim would make lynching him hard, knowing that the scum kill was performed by a ninja so Vedith had to be a protective, or Vedith is his buddy. i find the former more likely but this is based off of memory and my memory is quite bad.
Flippy i need to look at more in general. i was sort of sheeping Flavor's behavioural townread before and that obviously isn't something i should be doing now.

if we can get a scumpool down to two players we win. so that's what i'll be trying to do.
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Post Post #1776 (isolation #111) » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:53 pm

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In post 1745, RAS wrote:His first read list can be found at Post 605 (isolation #75). FL is nowhere to be found on this list despite the amount of interactions these two players had with each other.
would like to point this out.
Deb's list here is hard to read, but Flavor is on it. listed as "Bland Branch".
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Post Post #1777 (isolation #112) » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:57 pm

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flippy might be in my lynchpool no matter what.
preliminary pool would be flippy, and if he flips town, RAS. but it would mean RAS is playing a great game. it might just be flippy.

i think no matter what my decision on option 2, flippy would need to be lynch option 1. once again this hinges on a reexamination of Flavor's flippy defense.

i was wrong to townread Flavor for so long, but his flip (and what he said) does tell me that the Creature kill was nothing more than Flavor earnestly believing Creature was town. it's too incriminating otherwise and i don't think a double-bluff in trying to frame himself is a good idea (though possible).
regardless, it does mean Flavor was the final decision on the kill.

that's probably all that's worthwhile to talk about without some actual rereading. good night!
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Post Post #1808 (isolation #113) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 4:22 pm

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hello everyone, sorry about this.
echoing Vedith here. and yes i will give a better look at Vedith/Flavor interactions too.
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Post Post #1868 (isolation #114) » Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:10 pm

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hi friends. extremely sorry for my absence last game day. i don't know if it would have changed anything since i was leaning to voting Flippy, but not participating at all certainly didn't help.

rushing this day would be pointless, but i am thankful i was protected as i fully intend to find the last scum today and lynch it. going for a full look at this relatively short game is best as i haven't looked at it in a while.
i did expect i might have been killed last night, so thank you Vedith. i'm pretty townread and haven't made up my mind on who the scum is here (because i haven't really been here) so it would make sense.
i might have wondered why scum picked such an obvious kill target, but the likelihood of them believing Vedith's bluff about RAS is there.
going to look at the possibility of scum Vedith as well, but that's for completion's sake.
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Post Post #1869 (isolation #115) » Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:12 pm

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who hasn't fullclaimed besides me?
i'm going to be doing ISOs anyways, but i may as well ask.
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Post Post #1870 (isolation #116) » Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:17 pm

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wow, i really haven't been on a single lynch wagon.
things to look at first: RAS's Flavour Leaf vote, and DEB being on the two mislynches but absent from the scum ones. so, context.

but most of my thoughts right now are really hampered by how little time i've had to look at recent posts, so i'll prioritize that.
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Post Post #1871 (isolation #117) » Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:21 pm

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it should be obvious, but please don't vote yet. talk about things with me first.
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Post Post #1881 (isolation #118) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 4:26 am

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In post 1879, Vedith wrote:
In post 1854, Emperor flippyNips wrote:I targeted him in hopes so I could see the last scum
but I used the wrong ability
I guess
So tell me, why shouldn't I lynch you today RAS?
he said he chose the wrong ability, meaning Voyeur.
and that is how Voyeur works. he should have seen a protect action if you protected him on night 3.
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Post Post #1882 (isolation #119) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 4:32 am

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In post 1878, Vedith wrote:I was confirmed seen by L8 on the same night.
So I can't be lying here. Nips even said he chose the wrong power.

So RAS is trying to lynch me on a false reason.
you were seen by L8 visiting the scumkill, so you could be lying here. there's no actual proof your action was a protect action. it's pretty clear by what RAS brought up.

Flippy said he chose the wrong power because he intended to catch the last scum, but he never said he didn't pick Voyeur.
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Post Post #1883 (isolation #120) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 4:37 am

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In post 1820, Emperor flippyNips wrote:First night I followed shiidaji cos I didn’t like the way they played I saw them do nothing
Second night I tracked person & saw him target fl
Third night I used voyeur on person again cos I thought it’d tell me who killed him but all I got was he was killed
it's pretty clear cut really. i actually can't think of an explanation besides Vedith just being scum, and it looks like Vedith couldn't either.

i'm going to send a hypothetical about what flippy's Voyeur would get on a player who was protected and killed on the same night, but it shouldn't matter. thanks RAS.
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Post Post #1885 (isolation #121) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 4:43 am

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Vedith could not have been blocked, because L8 saw him visit.
if it was a strongman kill, L8 still would have caught it on the watcher. a ninja kill is the third option, and required for Vedith to be town.
but flippy's same voyeur action disproves this. he should not have seen the ninja kill, he should have seen a protect action. unless you can come up with a normal role that would facilitate this.
going to wait for 100% confirmation from the mod, but i believe this is over.
"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."
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Post Post #1887 (isolation #122) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 4:45 am

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yes, but L8 would have seen the strongman anyway, so we have double confirmation it didn't happen.
"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."
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Post Post #1889 (isolation #123) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 4:52 am

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i think he NKed to simply make it look like he had protected me. it would have worked if i had been planning to not actually read the game fully. but i didn't have to because of you pointing out flippy's result first.
"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."
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Post Post #1891 (isolation #124) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 4:55 am

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no-killed and night-killed have the same abbreviation, and that's terrible.

maybe the reason was just to argue that they would never do it.
"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."
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Post Post #1896 (isolation #125) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:32 am

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VOTE: Vedith
alright, we're good to go.
"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."
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Post Post #1898 (isolation #126) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:50 am

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and for what it's worth, i appreciate that Vedith didn't actually give up anywhere. fight to the end, and all that.

don't count the self as giving up, either.
thanks for making this easy, RAS.
"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."
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