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First game on the site. So I'm not sure how to act or play.

Saw that coming

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VOTE: L84Dnr

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yo flippy - I see you picked up smoking, too!

VOTE: Emperor FlippyNippy

Yo! Just a little, bout 6 a day

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Probably

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VOTE: L84Dnr

Any particular reason?

They looked at me funny

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I wish I could post emojis

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VOTE: U r a person 2

Smoker avatars unite

Ye yeee

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VOTE: L84Dnr

Any particular reason?

They looked at me funny

Better?

Meh, I’ll let it slide

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It just makes me cautious if they are newer players and you have influence with them.
I'm sure I'll get a read on you before the day is over at least.

I’m actually more likely to be lynched with them here than if they weren’t, to be honest.

This is true. Multiple times on my catch up I’m here thinking to myself. Let’s just kill flavor
I don’t think he’s scum yet but I trust him like I trust a puppie to not shit on my rug

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Vedith is probably town for playing around too.

Scum’s probably in the lurkers.

This is a good point. Nips is trying to play something on Xbox with me right now, but isn’t posting anything here. This is very curious. He has time to play other games, but not with us?

I wouldn’t use real life stuff into this.

He disappears on the site for days at a time.

Why not bring real life into this? You just did that by telling everyone your relationships with different people in the game.

BOOOM Got Em’


Btw idk who you people are

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Hmm. Idk if that’s gray area for current stuff happening. I guess it’s more like I dont like the “this guys doing this unrelated to this game, so he’s scum.”

I was just agreeing with your idea that the scum are possibly lurking now. I noticed that Nips might be intentionally lurking since he had time to do other things. Not entirely unrelated. Just an observation.

I’ve been on page 4 till early today & casually started catching up. But I’ve been lazy

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Didn’t know it got this poppin Poppin

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UNVOTE: L84Dnr

Why?

VOTE: Burkenstock

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I just want to say something about it now so it doesn't sound insane later.

You sound insane

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I think my vote is pretty solid rn so ima leave it hur

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What does QFT stand for?

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Total OMGUS

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Brother sandal is scum no way around it

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He’s not defending anything tho

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He stated a couple facts & placed his vote he didn’t say I wasn’t scum

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Exactly, the verdict is still out on Nips’ scum status. Where you (Beother Sandal) have executed multiple OMGUS votes. Even just now, when we have pointed at you with the scummy finger of suspicion, you are again trying to flip it on us.

So are you saying if Burken flips red then you’d think Flips is red?

Nips and Bake are starting to beother me with their tag teaming.

So just cos he placed a vote on burk after I did that’s a tag team?

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I mean, it is starting to seem like they're already buddies or are buddy-ing up to each other. I can easily see at least one scum between the two of them.

You're sniffing in the wrong direction buddy. I'm not buddying up with Nips. We both have the same read on Brother Sandal, that's just pure coincidence, or just smart analytic gameplay, who knows? The next thing to come from Nips' mouth could be complete shit, and if I think that then you'll know it. Just because he has a dope name doesn't mean I trust him. He was backing me up, which is sweet, I'll take all the support I can, but he did that of his own volition.

Actually you were backing me but it’s all good

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i think both of the brothers are scum, tbh

thoughts on that Dr Easy Bake?

Honestly I feel the same even tho this wasn’t directed to me, but I wanted to chime in. I just thought it’d be crazy if the brothers were scum together in their first game together that’s too wild to call D1 but we’ll see.

I get a stronger scum vibe from sandal tho

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The vadester I need to ISO but I’m being lazy

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I've had suspicions about him and easy bake for a bit. Mostly flippy because he wasn't saying too much then came in to join some fingers.

This is the first I’ve heard of it, & it’s only after you get voted.

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if Burke is town tho. Bake is scum pretty sure.

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@burk

what are your reads?

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if Burke is town tho. Bake is scum pretty sure.

Why is that?

It’s the feeling I get thru bakes play style. I’m scum leanin on him right now, Burke could & as flavor said be a easy misslynch Tho I’m still getting new scum but we have a good amount of time left for D1 so we can see how things play out

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Yeah I’ve been waiting all day to hear from burk.

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@Creature what are your reads?

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Btw, I do not know Flavor Leaf irl (seems worth mentioning in this game ).

Samezeees

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@burk

what are your reads?

@Creature what are your reads?

Just in case these were missed

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My votes been placed

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Actually

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Actually

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Why are you unvoting Brother Sandal now?

He’s not worth it right now he can get sorted later. I don’t like that he’s not answering my question but posting but it’s fine he can die D2

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I agree

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I also want to hear more from wilky before I decide who’s a good D1

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@chara
Who do you scum read more scept or burke and why?
How do you feel about wilky?

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@TLK
Same questions for you with the addition of Deborah
What is your read on him?

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@Bland Branch do you still feel the same about brother sandal?

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Bland branch is by far the best

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I really just wanna get something going here.

Lynching scum doesn’t matter to you?

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hmm okay so I think
bake-could be town he’s just eager and excited in his first game to get to d2
Vedith-I think could just be trolling searching for a reaction. But I think a super trolly vedith could be scum so that’s something to look out for
Burke- is a big ol' null right now. I don’t feel like a noobie scum burk would be tunnneling me like this unless he’s being coached.
If this is town Burke then he’s trying & I give him that

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I don’t know why I saw Flavor and though you were asking about my read on Vedith. Well, you’ve got my thoughts now anyways.

Thought*

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@TLK Burke’s been doing it well out of RVS so there’s a difference.

I was putting pressure on him, no point in me saying so then he’d know & it wouldn’t have the same affect

& it the way his statement was worded made it seem like he didn’t care who dies as long as someone does, although I can see that as pretty townie.

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I don’t know why I saw Flavor and though you were asking about my read on Vedith. Well, you’ve got my thoughts now anyways.

Thought*

Oh shit. Y’all should just lynch me for my agregious spelling mistake. I will not tolerate this kind of gramatical errors.

Fuckkkkkk it’s not even a spelling mistake, I just used the wrong word because I forgot the extra T. My excitement is clouding my scholastic integrity. Where am I?

You forgot a letter. #spellingmistake

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& I am not that 1 scum but if y’all want to lynch me to find that out go ahead
It’ll for sure be a mistake

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@bake You won’t be happy with the lynch when the day is done I’ll tell you that

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VOTE: Scepticism

I’ll sheep while I still can

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lol kill me then find out how scum I really am

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@flavor my guess is wilky but I should probably ISO L8, everything so far they’ve posted hasn’t been alarming to me tho

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VOTE: burke

Might as well have my vote on him if me and him are the the only possible lynches

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@chara what’s scummy about him?

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My flippy vote actually wasn't an OMGUS but the other ones were for sure spite in hindsight. I think the red flag of his in the shadows isn't being appreciated enough but it is impossible to be sure at this point. I still think it is a good idea.

I’m less in the shadows then a lot of people in the game so I don’t think that’s a good case especially for D1

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@flavor i’ve Also have been getting scum vibes from wilky but there hasn’t really been anything alarming enough to call out. I voted Burke when I felt like something was alarming enough to

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I think Wilky/L8 probably has some scum in them.

Curious. I'm leaning town on Wilky. What's your thinking here?

I’ve been lean scum on Wilky since way earlier. I feel like the Burken wagon started from me shading him, and then a couple people went on Burken, and now we’re here. If Burken is actually scum, sure, Wilky can be town, but if Burken is green, would you still think Wilky is town? He’s allowed Flips and DEBorah to take the front for the Burkenstock push to the point we’ve started calling it Flips vs Burkenstock when in actuality, Wilky is one of the founding fathers of that push.

I believe U R A Person was the other person to jump on there way back when.

You may have started the Sandal fire (I honestly don't remember and am not about to go digging to see if you did) but I have been fanning that shit for days. Someone starting a push doesn't definitely mean their scum, whether they are right or wrong. He could have just been trying to get shit started as I have been for HOURS. That being said I'm not trying to clear Wilky. I just don't want anybody on y'all's minds unless its Brother Sandal or Icy Nips.

They’re*

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If Burken is actually scum, sure, Wilky can be town, but if Burken is green, would you still think Wilky is town?

Sure. Town lynches town. Being on a mislynch doesn't make you scum. Pushing the wrong wagon doesn't make you scum.

This.

What about it? People say “this” all the time and never clarify if it’s townie points or scummy

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@l8 I wasn’t ready for a lynch so I took my vote off of him we had so much time so I figured why not wait, I didn’t realize we had so many lynch-happy people In this game

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L8 isn’t the Lynch for today #ShutItDown

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I’ll only settle for Burke or TLK

Or maybe wilky if someone has a good case

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Howdy partner’ !

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All the damn time,.

Alll the damn time.....

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How’s the skim going?

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Hi flip

VOTE: wilky I want this.

I would loveee, to hear why

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Flavor Leaf too TBH

Also who do you not want to lynch?

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@flavor i’ve Also have been getting scum vibes from wilky but there hasn’t really been anything alarming enough to call out. I voted Burke when I felt like something was alarming enough to

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Flavor Leaf too TBH

Also who do you not want to lynch?

This still

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Sorry being a little impatient

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Honestly, I could Lynch L8. He’s making solid points, but he’s very black and white with everything except when it’s convenient for him, a la the Wilky defense.

His push towards Creature he definitely had the better side of logic, but the points didn’t make Creature scum.

Why are you town reading Flips?

your L8 read is the thing i keep coming back to not really understanding.
why is the Wilky defense convenient for L8 in a world where Wilky is town, first of all?
you're pretty committed to this scumread but i wonder if it's a bad gamestate read. i'm not good at reading gamestates, but i'm pretty fair at accruing townreads.

I feel like L8’s defending Wilky because I’m scum leaning Wilky, and this trying to hatchet me out of it so I can’t push my scum reads without having it turn on me.

You can generally tell when I’m town when I have zero support following me, and I’m kind of off on my own.

When has L8 defended wilky?

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hi all i'm catching up today

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Okay I'm willing to listen.
I wanted to vote DEB today to see how they reacted. I can tell you it was very poorly though.

b4 that, what was your read on TLK at the very end of Day 1? The reason I feel less confident in townreading you is because of how biting your comments were towards TLK near twilight yet you seem to be hem-hawing on his alignment rn.

Spoiler: Vedith End of d1

Once again a wagon. But it feels desperate more so than actual scum reading.

Couldn't the same be said about you?

TLK talks about Wilky eager to end the day whole putting Wilky at L1.
Let's just take that in for a moment.

I have no reason to be desperate. So I don't think that applies.

If you're Scum buddy is at L2 of course you have reason to be desperate.

If you or Wilky can prove that Wilky has done these things too, please do.

If I can prove he has done things?
What?

Wilkys posting looks town. If you actually read his ISO it looks like he's making progression on his reads which Scum just don't do, even more so day 1 as they don't want to be stuck with reads.

Voting in someone outside of your town pool doesn't mean it's Scum motivated.
I've swapped my votes plenty, why are you not putting the pressure on me for it?

Green flip means I lynch in DEB or TLK.

I'm also pretty eager to end the day. So I put him at L-1. If he's a vig, that's a big blow. But plenty of people tried not to get killed. If he was something we didn't want to lose, I wish he said something sooner.

15mins between the last 2 votes and no intent or posting to even try and get this.
If Wilky is a town PR don't go blaming this on Wilky.

And how the fuck can you use Wilky being eager to end the day and then say this?

Like I do not see the above posts coming from someone that just said "TLK I'm not sure" and wants a case from me.
I want Chara URA and Flippy to weigh in on this.

im having alot of mixed feelings about vedith rn, i kind of have a scum lean on him just cos i find the way he's posting sort of erratic but a couple people in this game have been that way, & from what i know of vedith he's bit of a troll making it hard to get a read on him.

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hi all i'm catching up today

Did you have a good birthday? \o/

pretty good can't complain thanks for asking

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Also, after TLK typed "wool over its eyes.", he thought it necessary to press enter, type "I'll vote there.", press enter AGAIN, and then vote Wilky. This doesn't feel like the TLK I was introduced to at the beginning of the game, it's self-conscious. I have personally found some newbie scum to be afraid of just outright sheeping or naked voting, especially those that have not established a "Creature"-like sense of quick posting. To them, it would seem out of character to just quick vote. Thus they overcompensate with posts like this.

as is this. if tlk is scum, you probably flip town, huh?

Rereading this excerpt from Shiidaji's post helped me realize what exactly was being said, and it just sounds like such a reach. I finished a paragraph and gave space to vote because votes are significant enough to get their own paragraph, in my opinion.

I press the enter key to organize my thoughts better. I think I have breaks in almost all my posts longer than two sentences. Its just how I type, since I basically learned to type on osrs and wow. Not to mention any form of instant messaging, the basis for most communication for almost everyone, requires constant "enter" key spam. It's simply not AI.

i understand hitting enter often to make things more legible for everyone & myself later if need be

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Gotta say though, Insomnia, you do post a lot more and have good logic from what I can see. You have a tough legacy to live up to though. I want to like you but I don't think you can scum your way out of this, if that is the case. I have to take everyone one of your posts into account along with the seven or so left over from your predecessors.

I don't understand this. What legacy does he have to live up to?

What can't he scum his way out of? The post you quoted?

The legacy of John Marv and Scepticism being scummy af.

And I mean that he sounds town, but that's just because he might be good scum.

So I'm saying that even if he is good at scum, the people he had to sub in for screwed him over.

i dont know how you got scummy af if they hardly said a word then replaced out they were both big fat nulls to me

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i feel like the L8 vs. Insomniac could be TvS not sure about TLK v Insomniac

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@TLK i mean i've been busy, trying to post when i can. also lurking doesn't always mean scum.

i understand not liking lurkers but that doesn't mean they're scum. once it can be identified as active lurking i feel that's different, but that's not the case here

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Couple pages behind again I’ll be on tonight to read thru

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VOTE: flavor leaf

I’m gonna trust person and park my vote here

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Like, literally, one scum flip today, essentially clears me, and then we get my result tonight, which essentially forces either another hard block on me or they kill me.

It only helps scum to kill me off here at this point because town should see why scum HAVE to kill me off today.

@Chara/Vedith/DrEasy - Please see why scum HAVE to come at me today...it’s literally just Flips/L8.

Flips was lurk pushing Burken day 1. He made a false push on me just now and fit the narrative to fit their side.

L8 probably just told him to vote, tbh.

We go one of them today, and I’m cleared.

Fabricated.


Plus Idt I really lurked at all day 1 I missed a day phase cos y’all kill TLK super quick. & it’s not a false push I’m going off of what person said and how you’ll say almost anything to stay alive. So even if you’re town pretty much whatever you say is gonna be ignored by me due to that fact.

Only thing that could make me want to kill someone other than you would be an actual slip or more convincing argument made by someone else.

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I’m honestly just not reading much of what you said so I missed it. Like I said most of what you say is gonna be ignored. I responded to what stuck out to me

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I said I’m going off of what person said pretty sure I made that clear

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I also feel like it’s just about time you rolled scum in a game you’re in w/ me. If I’m wrong oh well it’s a lesson

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Like, literally, one scum flip today, essentially clears me, and then we get my result tonight, which essentially forces either another hard block on me or they kill me.

It only helps scum to kill me off here at this point because town should see why scum HAVE to kill me off today.

@Chara/Vedith/DrEasy - Please see why scum HAVE to come at me today...it’s literally just Flips/L8.

Flips was lurk pushing Burken day 1

. He made a false push on me just now and fit the narrative to fit their side.

L8 probably just told him to vote, tbh.

We go one of them today, and I’m cleared.

So out of all the posts I’ve made, the thing that stood out was something extremely hidden in the middle, and then i was misrepped with it too.

I clearly said lurk pushing, which meant he was here pushing, but he got stuck on the word lurk.

This is scum pushing me because his partner told him to.

#WRRONNG

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VOTE: flavor leaf

I’m gonna trust person and park my vote here

False. You said you’re gonna trust Person, not go off what he said. There’s a difference.

Person has a soft guilty. It’s not a matter of trusting what Person said. The result is tainted, and that’s the point of the role, to cause confusion like this because it’s not hard guilty.

Like my role, and Wilky’s Role before. There’s a lot of soft guilties.

Also, L8’s literally the only town player to not have some kind of modifier? He’s just scum.

I mean I feel like they’re both the same thing.

I also don’t know what soft guilty and all that means so I’m not paying attention to it.

First person he investigated.

SCUM.

Now you are the second person he investigated and he got the same readings that he did on the first on you

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How many prs can be in a game?

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How many prs can be in a game?

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I have a odd distrust for vedith

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I think it’s just naturally. I don’t necessarily think you’re scum this game

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I read this game a little bit during the night phase, and a player that stood out to me was DEB. I don't feel like enough people are really talking about that slot in general. I'll give a post with more information sometime later today, but I figured I'd point this out in case someone wants to go look into him as well.

Yeah I’ve been feeling off from bake but I could see it coming from a town bake let me iso him and flavor

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The quick days I wasn’t here y’all got town

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Okay I’m fine with killing him

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sounds like one of us is bad luck.

It’s the smoking

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All in favor of a nurse hard boil execution say, I!

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Well that’s fine me neither

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It’s not like I voted you tho. You were ready to kill quick I held onto it so you weren’t quick lynched while I was gone in case you are town

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My target will be Ras \o/

Like you’re tunneling him? Or are you announcing what you’re gonna do in the night time

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@RAS Well It was mostly a reaction test for burk. Except for 784 it felt life & death especially with all the quick hammers going on.
Also if I’m not asked to explain myself about something chances are I’m not going to

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i think no matter what my decision on option 2, flippy would need to be lynch option 1. once again this hinges on a reexamination of Flavor's flippy defense.

I don’t get how after looking at flavor & I go back and forth makes you think I’m scum? I parked my vote didn’t take it off. I never got close to trying to kill L8 cos I knew he was town. Flavor kept pushing that he was scum if he was my partner I would of at least said a little about how L8 did some small thing that is scummy.

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Wel I haven’t really gotten a scum read from chara, ras, vedith or deb
But he was the last on my town list leaning towards scum so I was down to see what people thought of his lynch
I’m gonna take a dive into who’s alive a bit later

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If that’s how you really feel

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VOTE: Emperor flippyNips.

I’m a waste of time I’m town. I don’t think you’re scum so we should work together. It’d be really crazy if you’re scum & have been playing the way you have right now. Coming in immediately and parking your vote on flavor which made me feel more certain on killing flavor. Although I was riding off of what person had said

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@DEB
@chara
@vedith
who are your two biggest scum reads?
& who are your most towniest town reads?

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@DEB
who are your two biggest scum reads?
& who are your most towniest town reads?

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I don’t really like the way Nips is responding to RAS’s vote.

What’s there not to like?

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@DEB
@chara
@vedith
who are your two biggest scum reads?
& who are your most towniest town reads?

DEB or Chara as Scum
Both you and RAS as town.

I'm still not able to fully commit for another day.

Okay but when you can..
What do you find scummy from chara?

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@DEB
who are your two biggest scum reads?
& who are your most towniest town reads?

You're the only one who I'm really reading as scum right now. Like I said before, I don't like the way you responded to just recently getting voted.

So everyone else is for sure town to you no way around it?

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I don’t really like the way Nips is responding to RAS’s vote.

What’s there not to like?

You're the only one who I'm really reading as scum right now. Like I said before, I don't like the way you responded to just recently getting voted.

I don’t feel like you answered my question, you said the same thing in a different way

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What’s scummy about it?

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I’ve only really dug into RAS and want to think he’s town, off of memory chara is town to me but it probably wouldn’t hurt to dig a bit. I want to trust vedith and that was before he said I’m town so it’s not just cos of the pocket. Honesty bake I thought from the beginning had scum in him but I didn’t want him to die early on, then he started to get townie. So once I’m done digging I’ll drop my vote on who I think should die

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You’ll see them change when I bleed green

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I don’t feel like there’s any reason to hold my role so close I’ve used all my shots anyways
I’m a JOAT.
The only real use I got out of it was I confirmed person was town after night 2 when he said he used his role on flavor because I saw him do it.

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First night I followed shiidaji cos I didn’t like the way they played I saw them do nothing
Second night I tracked person & saw him target fl
Third night I used voyeur on person again cos I thought it’d tell me who killed him but all I got was he was killed

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Yeah one shot.
Voyeur
Tracker
Follower

Yeah everything you’ve said makes sense

VOTE: vedith

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L-1

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That’s a fail for town

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I F'n hate this website cause I tried to go back to the night where URAP died before writing all of that, and Flippy should've seen Vedith visit URAP that night considering that L84Dnr saw Vedith visit URAP.

This should confirm Flippy as scum here. I think you would agree, Vedith.

VOTE: Flippy.

Read Post 1512 and Post 1820.

Either way, this game is won.

Why would I of seen vedith visit person when I targeted person???

I would of had to target vedith to see that he visited person

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I'm not clearing Vedith. My gut says he's town but my PR says he's scum.

The PR's gave me a soft guilty. I'm simply acknowledging that my read may have been tampered with. Vedith may have popped in to say "Hi" to URAP last night for entirely innocent reasons and somebody (Ninja, Ascetic, etc...) that I can't track was responsible for the NK.

This is precisely the same line of reasoning that you've been using to infer JOATs, ascetics, blockers, stoppers, etc... so calling me for it is pretty damned odd.

Bottom line: We have soft guilties because we know that scum may have PRs that can mess with our results. The exact nature of those scum PRs isn't something that we can determine without further information, so speculating about what they might be isn't really getting us anywhere.

Are y’all talking about this? This is the only time I see that L8 mentions vedith

[Emperor flippyNips]

If you're town here Nips this is the second game in a row you are voting me when I'm more or less confirmed town.

In case I see you are town when I’m dead.
Whoops. I don’t trust most people the whole game even when person first came on the scene talking about his pr I didn’t trust him. I went along with it we lynched scum then I targeted him in hopes so I could see the last scum but I used the wrong ability I guess, first time being a JOAT. It made sense to vote you cos why is there that many prs in this game

[Emperor flippyNips]

Nips is not going to prevent his lynch as town.

Nah cos I was fuckin sleeping. Not much I can do there.W

When I put you at L-1 I stated it cos I still wanted to hear from you still to more or less confirm it. If you’re scum I wanted to see how you’d wiggle out of it.
I really don’t see how there’s that many PR’s for town so even tho I was kinda cozy in your pocket that didn’t make sense so I voted you too

[Emperor flippyNips]

A few post-game comments:

– I'd like to apologize to Flippy for the quick lynch. I misread what your role did entirely, and you can put the blame on me for that one. I was all over the place that day, and I should've just taken it slow. I know it ultimately won us the game, but there's still no excuse for

It’s all good I see how there was a mix up

Good game everyone! It was fun