Mini 2059: Secrets of the Anuket Topaz [Over]

[NotMySpamAccount]

Can I suggest NMSA for that wagon? I expect you'll find that more productive, anyhow.

I've been reading through and honestly this is different from the other games I've played with you so since noone else has done much AI, VOTE: urap2

[NotMySpamAccount]

Why and who is that?

Notmyspamaccount. I'm not looking to set the table for him, but I've played with scum!nmsa in newbie 1915 and town!nmsa in... i think 1917?, and I think he is an ideal choice.

I'm really not ideal. I've played this identically to 1917 so far, where I was town. Same thing here.

[NotMySpamAccount]

It's not cool to vote my townreads on bad reasoning!

why is he a townread

I am not in the habit of over explaining townreads.

Cool, let's break that habit. I want info.

[NotMySpamAccount]

yay skitter is probably town because of this interaction

I agree. How is watch duty right now?

i can't see the sun anymore but I think that might be because I've lost my retinas

Ohhh no. Go see the medical unit quick!

These two have been spamming all game. I'm calling my shot now, this is the scumteam. Come join me on the urap wagon, game is already solved.

[NotMySpamAccount]

Why and who is that?

Notmyspamaccount. I'm not looking to set the table for him, but I've played with scum!nmsa in newbie 1915 and town!nmsa in... i think 1917?, and I think he is an ideal choice.

I'm really not ideal. I've played this identically to 1917 so far, where I was town. Same thing here.

You had zero posts here when I made this post.

Are you arguing that at the start of 1917 you also had zero posts before you posted?

Yes, I am absolutely certain that I hadn't posted before my first post.

[NotMySpamAccount]

VOTE: NotMySpamAccount

No explanation at all, this is OMGUS.

These two have been spamming all game. I'm calling my shot now, this is the scumteam. Come join me on the urap wagon, game is already solved.

last game, as town, you couldn't even find a read for like half of D1, lol. What changed?

I so don't buy this confidence as coming from town!you

Surprise, I'm changing up my style to find one I like.

[NotMySpamAccount]

Also leaning town on skitter.

[NotMySpamAccount]

Surprise, I'm changing up my style to find one I like.

How would you describe your new style?

rn trying to play more confident and deliberately provoking arguments.

Also leaning town on skitter.

why?

Playing similarly to what I've seen town!skitter play before.

VOTE: NotMySpamAccount

No explanation at all, this is OMGUS.

These two have been spamming all game. I'm calling my shot now, this is the scumteam. Come join me on the urap wagon, game is already solved.

last game, as town, you couldn't even find a read for like half of D1, lol. What changed?

I so don't buy this confidence as coming from town!you

Surprise, I'm changing up my style to find one I like.

You aren't voting me.
And you are pure posture right now.

Everything you have posted reads as fake.

I'm voting urap, your scumpartner, because he seemed scummier earlier.

[NotMySpamAccount]

This is scum NMSA.

Go read his first like 5 posts in 1915 and 1917 and I think it will be pretty clear to anyone here.

I'm voting urap, your scumpartner, because he seemed scummier earlier.

This is still posturing.

These are scum, they're piling on to me because I don't have enough of a meta to easily defend my play.

Pedit:

This isn't someone with a year's worth of games thinking about their meta. They're still finding their play style, and this is an obvious evolution of their scum game, but a serious stretch from their town game.

Still finding my playstyle, exactly. I don't really like my townplay so far, except the fakehammer in 1917. I fail to see how it's an obvious evolution of my scumplay though.

Btw if no one knows what I mean by posturing. Posturing is an act. It is when people pretend to make themselves into something they aren't. You could be posturing with a overinflated case. You could be posturing about your confidence level. The act itself doesn't mean scum. But when all a person is doing is posturing. I go "why is that person just putting up an act the whole time?"

I only have two games completed on here, I'm still making my playstyle up as I go along.

Pedit 2:

This isn't someone with a year's worth of games thinking about their meta. They're still finding their play style, and this is an obvious evolution of their scum game, but a serious stretch from their town game.

I don't know of this persons meta. But I believe you when you say this isn't how they normally play.

Why do you believe urap and not me?

[NotMySpamAccount]

Playing similarly to what I've seen town!skitter play before.

in what way?
also what's prompting your new style?

kinda textwally, not much. New style because I felt like it

[NotMySpamAccount]

I'm voting urap, your scumpartner, because he seemed scummier earlier.

eli5 why urap was scummy earlier

Not nearly as much content as in previous games.

It would be easier and more compelling for people to just go read like 10 posts but

In 1915 NMSA came in with an act. They played up the whole newbie thing (they have some outside experience), going so far as to claim VT in their first post saying "It's okay to say this, right?"

In 1917 they were town and they had a far less awkward, far breezier tone. There was zero posturing. Even under pressure and a decent way into the game they stood firm on not having any reads.

Here we once again have an act. It reads just as false as 1915, just with a different shtick. It's scum nmsa

Here I actually have reads, unlike in 1917, because here you and Brigitte are acting scummy. Also, here I'm acting because I want to try a new playstyle on for size, and actually saying clearly that I'm acting differently intentionally, rather than playing weirdly with no explanation.

Pedit:

Why do you believe urap and not me?

Because you have been obviously acting. Considering it looks like you dropped your act maybe you can give me some genuine thoughts you have on the game instead of giving me fake!NMSA

Do you actually consider me and urap2 a team for instance?

Yes, though less so than earlier given your reactions.

Here we once again have an act. It reads just as false as 1915, just with a different shtick. It's scum nmsa

yeah he's being posture-y and like over-confident here

i skimmed the first few posts of 1917 and id on't really see that there, he was more chill and willing to sheep and was like hyper-aware that he's new and might not be super great at the game so he was like willing to sheep you and tttt

I'm not sheeping urap this time because I can actually play more this game and urap is crazy scummy.

Pedit:

Playing similarly to what I've seen town!skitter play before.

in what way?
also what's prompting your new style?

kinda textwally, not much. New style because I felt like it

you think the text-walling is town indicative for me?
i'm *pretty* sure we talked about how it isn't for me in 1915, and that i'm more likely to textwall as scum than town?

Fair point. I'm too lazy to go back and check, but I'll take your explanation and put you back as null.

[NotMySpamAccount]

It really seems like you dropped half of the act. Now the act is just your reads which look pretty artificial and don't make sense. How is urap2 crazy scummy for instance?

I swear I've said this a few times already. Very little content (ubtil I pressured him of course), and traded spammy posts with you a lot.

[NotMySpamAccount]

Not nearly as much content as in previous games.

a) why is this scummy in a general sense
b) i didn't read 1917 but in 1915 he repped in like late day1 and there was already content for him to work with; of course he'd immediatley have more content as a replacement than as a player starting the game wiht everyone else; int his context i'm not sure this is scummy at all

also UNVOTE:

a) he was town in previous games
b) fair point, but in 1917 iirc he started off with content fairly early.

It really seems like you dropped half of the act. Now the act is just your reads which look pretty artificial and don't make sense. How is urap2 crazy scummy for instance?

I swear I've said this a few times already. Very little content (ubtil I pressured him of course), and traded spammy posts with you a lot.

How is that scummy? If you point to meta I am going to ask you how this game is similar to any game you point to and consider that we are still less than 24 hours in the game as a factor for whatever meta reasoning you give.

See above for why it's scummy.

also he's since had more content (namely pushing you) so does that factor into your read at all?

Yeah, he seems vaguely townier, considering switching the vote to Brigitte.

[NotMySpamAccount]

a) he was town in previous games
b) fair point, but in 1917 iirc he started off with content fairly early.

There is no way that this isn't manufactured. I replaced into 1917 at page 8

oh wait crap he's right. yeah, urap is going closer to null. disregard my terrible memory.

Pedit:

Where is the link for 1917? I don't see it in the mini theme list?

Newbie 1915 and 1917 are the ones I've been referencing, my only completed games.

[NotMySpamAccount]

Also, before I forget, VOTE: Brigitte

[NotMySpamAccount]

Also, before I forget, VOTE: Brigitte

If you were scum reading us for our interactions early, and you no longer scum read me, why are you still scum reading Brigitte?

another good point, but she was wasting space early, which led to my scumread on both before I called you two as scumteam.

[NotMySpamAccount]

There seems to be pretty big differences in play from both of you so far from 1917.
I don't know what to make of it.

not really. In all three games I catch scum pretty early on and then push it to a lynch ;P

*two

[NotMySpamAccount]

So I'm extremely tired and unable to focus on anything, which is why I'm here right now instead of studying. I can't get a handle on the Enter/Reck thing at all for some reason, so I'm not going to have much useful to say here until later in the game. Clearly the playstyle change didn't work out great. Because of this, I'm considering replacing out so y'all can have a useful player instead of dead weight in this slot. Do you guys want someone else or do you want me to stay? I'll answer anything you ask me if I have the time, but please don't make me do a full reread. Fire away while I've got a few minutes.

[NotMySpamAccount]

After reading through stuff, here's a readlist:

Lady Angel: 3 posts, 2 of which are RVS. The other is a question that could be answered by reading the game. Scumlean for lurking.
Nimueh: Not much posting here either, just finding reasons not to vote me. Weird. Not much info, but again slight scumlean for lurking.
Enter: I had a townlean here, but it's a scumlean now after an iso. My own reads confuse me sometimes.
urap2: Started with a scumlean here, after the iso it's a townlean based on how he treated my initial (admittedly fairly scummy) play etc.
skitter30: Townlean, she's playng the same as she has in the other games I've played with town!skitter.
Chara: 2 posts with no content. Not pretending to have content either, so null here.
Reck: Don't know his meta, can't tell if this is how he normally plays but town maybe?
Flubbernugget: I don't like much about the slot other than the name, but I'm willing to buy that he's sick and that it's preventing him from playing much. Null.
tris: Intersting slot, lots of questions but not many answers, and very few post that make it to two lines long. Not sure what to make of it.
tictac: Few posts, mostly some form of "I like this." In short, I don't like this. Scumlean here, and a team with Enter might make sense given how they approached my wagon. I don't want to make any associations before a flip though I guess.
Branson: Nothing from the slot before the alt switch. I like 369, it's a point I wouldn't have thought of, but it rings true. Not many posts, but a townlean.
Brigitte: 95 is still bad. I really don't like this slot, might be bad reasoning but I really don't see much content coming out of it.

I'm actually fine keeping my vote on Brigitte for now.

[NotMySpamAccount]

I highly doubt you will actually be lynched at this point. Very rarely have I seen a highly active game (which I very much intend for this to be) result in the Lynch of a player who got bandwagons coming out of RVS

I don't understand. You think he's scum, but you don't think he will be the lynch.

Do you want today's lynch to be NMSA?

Yes. I do.

I want NMSA to be lynched today, I don't think he will be lynched right now. Based on experience the wagon on him will dismantle before reforming again if he will be lynched, though. Very very rarely do I see a wagon coming out of RVS resulting in a Lynch.

Ugh. Sorry for yesterday, I was really out of my element. Let's fix this, starting here:

1. I love wagons. I love wagons made for good reason, I love wagons made for bad reason, I love wagons made for seemingly no reason whatsoever. I like to see who's willing to get on and push, who's resistant, and why. So of course I'm going to push to see who's willing to get on and who's not, offering whatever reason I can to be on it. After my push to see if we could get one more vote on NMSA yesterday I didn't get much positive response, just a bit of resistance, so for that reason, I think my time here is done. I'm going to save these:

Wow, didn't see this transition coming. /s

If/when nmsa flips scum, you're a partner. This is simply transparent.

And when I flip town, what is he?

[NotMySpamAccount]

NMSA

Talked about his posting in stream of consciousness, but don't like his vote on Brig, don't like his vote on urap2, he seemed OMGUS-y at first, his posts felt contrived and fake, but he says he's trying something and he posted reads.

rn trying to play more confident and deliberately provoking arguments.

Talk about this.

Your read on me is flipping around too fast, I can't tell if you think I'm scum or not because every other post you switch from "NMSA seems townie" to "NMSA seems scummy," often depending on who you're talking to. My gut scumread is solidifying.

VOTE: Enter

The playstyle change is to see if I can be more effective at gathering information as town, and at spreading misinformation if I roll scum in the future.

[NotMySpamAccount]

This is town, chara. He's voting with me because he's town and he's trying to sort me and help me

Calling this a buddy attempt is a bit of a stretch, I think. It makes pretty good sense in context.

Nah, it doesn't really to me. This sounds like scum covering their bases in case someone calls them out. I hate to doubt urap's reads, since they seem to be accurate in my experience, I'm starting to think urap is either wrong, scum, or we're reading two different games.

[NotMySpamAccount]

Ok rn Lynch order (and sort order ) today for me:

NMSA -> Reck -> Lady Angel -> Nimueh -> flubb

A lot of these are lurkers. If you're in this list let's talk. I especially want you on one side or the other of the skitter/reck wagon

Chara you shared on nimueh how do you feel about the other low post count players. Flubb, Lady Angel does anyone know either of them and know if they're likely to play like this as scum?

Pedit please talk to me flubb. Why did you vote and unvote reck?

Aand as I could have predicted, flipping back to "NMSA is scum" from the earlier, more moderate readlist.

[NotMySpamAccount]

Please point out where I called you town, NMSA

You don't directly, but you imply that you find my assertion about playstyle reasonable and that you like that I gave a readlist in 450.

[NotMySpamAccount]

boop

tbh I might not until I have a reason to

What is it with people this game not wanting to post reads.

boop

tbh I might not until I have a reason to

You're not the first person I've seen with this mindset

But I don't understand it at all.

Might as well try to hit a baseball blindfolded

Exactly.

boop

tbh I might not until I have a reason to

You're not the first person I've seen with this mindset

But I don't understand it at all.

Might as well try to hit a baseball blindfolded

that's ok, I have better aim and timing when I can't see the ball or can focus my eyes specifically to where I already know the path will be

This is BS. I'm starting to scumlean here.

now that i look at it again, nmsa's read on Nimueh is sort of strange to me. finding reasons to vote nmsa is bad according to nsma, but the slight scumlean comes from lurking instead of that?

nmsa, would appreciate a response to this when you're back.

Nimueh was finding reasons NOT to vote me, which was odd given context, but with very few posts, the lurking was scummier.

[NotMySpamAccount]

VOTE: NMSA

Not even done with my reread but urap knows I wouldn't fall for this, even if I were scum. Also

@nsg v/la until Saturday

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yay skitter is probably town because of this interaction

I agree. How is watch duty right now?

i can't see the sun anymore but I think that might be because I've lost my retinas

Ohhh no. Go see the medical unit quick!

These two have been spamming all game. I'm calling my shot now, this is the scumteam. Come join me on the urap wagon, game is already solved.

Also correct me if I'm wrong because I have no experience in setup spec, but this game probably has more than two scum in it, right? with 13 people? This was a legit dumb!tell I think. He's only played newbie games up until now and they have 2 person teams.

Hmm yeah. This didn't occur to me. I don't have nearly enough time for a proper readthrough, but I'm definitely townreading urap2 now, his play has developed into what I'm used to from town!urap at this point. I definitely don't see the motivation for the tris fakehammer, I've pulled that before, but the only reason to do it imho is because the wagon is under significant pressure, and the fakehammer could fit in the progression the game was going in. The fake lolhammer came out of nowhere, I would have checked it anyway, this seems like either bad play (which I wouldn't expect coming from the alt of an experienced player, which I think someone said tris is) or scum trying to get towncred.

[NotMySpamAccount]

Nimueh is refusing to answer questions, is claiming that Enter is misrepping, and is in fact doing the same thing. Back up your claims with evidence instead of strawmanning. Nimueh is scum.

VOTE: Nimueh

[NotMySpamAccount]

@NMSA Could you talk to me about my read on you in 943 and 848? How does my read mesh with your true motivations, etc. Thanks mate

@everyone else I know there are questions for me outstanding, and I'll get to them this afternoon.

Honestly yeah that's pretty accurate. I did kinda think you and Brigitte might be the scumteam, but not as confidently as I acted. Reads are definitely my weak point (probably a big problem), especially day 1 when I don't have any confirmed info besides my own role. If I survive to day 2, I'll be able to do a lot more analysis.

[NotMySpamAccount]

Nimueh is refusing to answer questions, is claiming that Enter is misrepping, and is in fact doing the same thing. Back up your claims with evidence instead of strawmanning. Nimueh is scum.

VOTE: Nimueh

No but you’re probably something I won’t say.

I already did. Do I keep having to spam the thread with the post where I already answered his question, despite him insisting otherwise?

I might be more likely to take it back if you quoted both his question and your answer, to make it clear that you did in fact do so. If you do not, I will continue to assume you are scum.

[NotMySpamAccount]

@NMSA Could you talk to me about my read on you in 943 and 848? How does my read mesh with your true motivations, etc. Thanks mate

@everyone else I know there are questions for me outstanding, and I'll get to them this afternoon.

Honestly yeah that's pretty accurate. I did kinda think you and Brigitte might be the scumteam, but not as confidently as I acted. Reads are definitely my weak point (probably a big problem), especially day 1 when I don't have any confirmed info besides my own role. If I survive to day 2, I'll be able to do a lot more analysis.

Was I wrong about anything?

Not really, except that I would say I'm not demotivated. I just switched back to my natural persona which is slightly more lurkerish, so there's less content than if I had kept going with what I tried early on.

[NotMySpamAccount]

There was a WEEK of gameplay before you got here, Nimueh, and you've been here a couple hours. Your narcissistic belief that the game thread revolves around you baffles me. I've pushed other slots, I've read other slots, and I have a reasonably decent reads list all of which are things that cannot be said for you. I'm not death tunneling you, you came in here halfway through the game day and you pretend that nothing has happened but my read on you. The fact that you're so stubbornly blind to the fact that EVERYONE ELSE has been reading this game and developing repertoire with the other players (except elbirn) is ridiculous to me. There is more to this game than the few pages since you showed up. I know some people don't like to roll scum, but that's no excuse for throwing the game because of it. Get your head out of your rectum and play the game and quit with this ignorant crap. It's disgusting and annoying.

You can keep insisting I’m scum until hell freezes over and continue to insult me to excuse you terrible play since I started posting more but it doesn’t make it true.

You have the lion’s share of this blame. At least I’m sick, what’s your excuse?

I think you're sick, but that your response was pretty scummy. And a reaction is exactly what Enter has been trying to provoke all game.

[NotMySpamAccount]

Nim and Brig are scum. At least one of Enter and Ank are town. I'll willingly wagon Nim or Brig at any point.

[NotMySpamAccount]

Nim and Brig are scum. At least one of Enter and Ank are town. I'll willingly wagon Nim or Brig at any point.

unfortunately nothing you're scumreading nim for is ai
(not that i know how to read either but yeah)
i'm undecided wrt brig atm

scumreading nim for refusing to do what I asked, despite making it clear that I would continue to scumread

[NotMySpamAccount]

Nimueh is refusing to answer questions, is claiming that Enter is misrepping, and is in fact doing the same thing. Back up your claims with evidence instead of strawmanning. Nimueh is scum.

VOTE: Nimueh

No but you’re probably something I won’t say.

I already did. Do I keep having to spam the thread with the post where I already answered his question, despite him insisting otherwise?

I might be more likely to take it back if you quoted both his question and your answer, to make it clear that you did in fact do so. If you do not, I will continue to assume you are scum.

I’d rather deal with your post directly, if that’s okay with you. From what I’ve gathered, Enter seems to be of the false impression that I’m seeking a free pass for being sick and think that should somehow make me immune from votes, which is something I’ve never even suggested. He misconstrued

repeatedly

my explanation about my reasoning for initially voting Tris. What I said was I didn’t think it was townie, if it was the SOLE reason for her vote and she agreed and unvoted me. I’m happy to continue to address your concerns but I can’t deal with someone who continues to misrep me and twist my words, which is why I’d rather respond to you, than Enter.

Specifically this is the big problem. It's not okay with me. I said so. You didn't do what I asked. Nim is scum.

[NotMySpamAccount]

Nim is leaning scum for me after reading ISO, but basically none of the reasons that NMSA has given. Nor Enter (I think? Need to reread his reasons).

Need to flesh out my thoughts on it at some point because its not sorted out completely.

How To Agree With a Read For Towncred Without Supporting the Player Accurately Scumreading You 101.

[NotMySpamAccount]

Nim is leaning scum for me after reading ISO, but basically none of the reasons that NMSA has given. Nor Enter (I think? Need to reread his reasons).

Need to flesh out my thoughts on it at some point because its not sorted out completely.

How To Agree With a Read For Towncred Without Supporting the Player Accurately Scumreading You 101.

They really need to make that class have a shorter name.

Okay. Scum 101.

[NotMySpamAccount]

Nim is leaning scum for me after reading ISO, but basically none of the reasons that NMSA has given. Nor Enter (I think? Need to reread his reasons).

Need to flesh out my thoughts on it at some point because its not sorted out completely.

How To Agree With a Read For Towncred Without Supporting the Player Accurately Scumreading You 101.

They really need to make that class have a shorter name.

Okay. Scum 101.

I thought this was an elective?!
Scum 101 is a required course.

It's required for you.

[NotMySpamAccount]

Nim and Brig are scum. At least one of Enter and Ank are town. I'll willingly wagon Nim or Brig at any point.

unfortunately nothing you're scumreading nim for is ai
(not that i know how to read either but yeah)
i'm undecided wrt brig atm

scumreading nim for refusing to do what I asked, despite making it clear that I would continue to scumread

Because I got tired of repeating myself yesterday, ad nauseum.

All you did was claim that you had answered the wuestion. You never actually showed me or anyone else where you did so. If you do not, in your next three posts, quote me what post had the question, what post had your answer, and why it is valid, I will put you at conf!scum and you will not leave that point until you die.

[NotMySpamAccount]

Nim is leaning scum for me after reading ISO, but basically

none of the reasons that NMSA has given

. Nor Enter (I think? Need to reread his reasons).

Need to flesh out my thoughts on it at some point because its not sorted out completely.

Okay.

I think you and NMSA are partners here. What do I win?

This is 1.

[NotMySpamAccount]

Nim is leaning scum for me after reading ISO, but basically none of the reasons that NMSA has given. Nor Enter (I think? Need to reread his reasons).

Need to flesh out my thoughts on it at some point because its not sorted out completely.

How To Agree With a Read For Towncred Without Supporting the Player Accurately Scumreading You 101.

Nice distancing.

This is 2.

[NotMySpamAccount]

Nim is leaning scum for me after reading ISO, but basically none of the reasons that NMSA has given. Nor Enter (I think? Need to reread his reasons).

Need to flesh out my thoughts on it at some point because its not sorted out completely.

How To Agree With a Read For Towncred Without Supporting the Player Accurately Scumreading You 101.

They really need to make that class have a shorter name.

Yep, I called it. I want bragging rights.

That's three. I gave you fair warning here:

Nim and Brig are scum. At least one of Enter and Ank are town. I'll willingly wagon Nim or Brig at any point.

unfortunately nothing you're scumreading nim for is ai
(not that i know how to read either but yeah)
i'm undecided wrt brig atm

scumreading nim for refusing to do what I asked, despite making it clear that I would continue to scumread

Because I got tired of repeating myself yesterday, ad nauseum.

All you did was claim that you had answered the wuestion. You never actually showed me or anyone else where you did so. If you do not, in your next three posts, quote me what post had the question, what post had your answer, and why it is valid, I will put you at conf!scum and you will not leave that point until you die.

you made two posts after that, which I marked:

Nim is leaning scum for me after reading ISO, but basically

none of the reasons that NMSA has given

. Nor Enter (I think? Need to reread his reasons).

Need to flesh out my thoughts on it at some point because its not sorted out completely.

Okay.

I think you and NMSA are partners here. What do I win?

and

Nim is leaning scum for me after reading ISO, but basically none of the reasons that NMSA has given. Nor Enter (I think? Need to reread his reasons).

Need to flesh out my thoughts on it at some point because its not sorted out completely.

How To Agree With a Read For Towncred Without Supporting the Player Accurately Scumreading You 101.

Nice distancing.

This post makes three. Nim is conf!scum her own choice.

[NotMySpamAccount]

*by her own choice

[NotMySpamAccount]

is NMSA and Nimueh like blood related?

?

[NotMySpamAccount]

i don't think she read the post where you made your ultimatum yet

Wouldn't she have seen it in a pedit at least once though?

[NotMySpamAccount]

is NMSA and Nimueh like blood related?

?

read your posts, you both are like on the same kind of wavelength.

But I'm not scumreading you and NMSA.

[NotMySpamAccount]

I reread Nimuh ISO three times just see if I could sort this out. And all I am getting is something seems off about the interactions between her and Enter. Not sure what is sending of flags here.

Oh this just keeps getting me better and better. lmao

Nim is bussing Brig.

[NotMySpamAccount]

SKITTER. TELL ME WHAT READS TO GIVE THESE TWO!!!!

Ask yourself two questions. Did I make it clear what I wanted from Nim? Did she respond as requested? That should help you sort her.

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ngl i kinda want to vote nimueh; she feels really flat here for her and i'm kinda surprised that she's not scumreading enter here tbh

pedit

WHY ARE YOU ASKING MY OPINION!!!!!!

I DONT TRUST MYSELF RIGHT NOW!!!

chill. regardless of alignment you need to calm down and read isos for reads or something. don't flail.

[NotMySpamAccount]

this is surreal.

What do you think of Nim refusing to answer my questions, and her developing read of me and Vrig as the scumteam?

[NotMySpamAccount]

that's fine, just knowing you have is enough to lower the possible people you can be down to two people anyways

and btw that means that them playing like this is NAI

I would still tr you here, even if I hadn’t played with you before but obviously that helps.

i feel like the ank townread is lazy and/or undeveloped too

True, almost all of my posts yesterday could be categorized that way. However, my read on her hasn’t changed.

Don't try to use this as an excuse for not answering my questions.

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Ank, even though I think ur scum.
Ur good people. +5 honorary town points to you.

explain?

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She is pretty nifty.

details pls?

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VOTE: nimueh

What made you decide?

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idk rn
she feels kinda flat for her, and more ... going-through-the-motions-y
that could be a function of being sick, idk
her read on me and on ank are very shallow too

flat in what way?

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Nim and Brig are scum. At least one of Enter and Ank are town. I'll willingly wagon Nim or Brig at any point.

unfortunately nothing you're scumreading nim for is ai
(not that i know how to read either but yeah)
i'm undecided wrt brig atm

scumreading nim for refusing to do what I asked, despite making it clear that I would continue to scumread

Because I got tired of repeating myself yesterday, ad nauseum.

All you did was claim that you had answered the wuestion. You never actually showed me or anyone else where you did so. If you do not, in your next three posts, quote me what post had the question, what post had your answer, and why it is valid, I will put you at conf!scum and you will not leave that point until you die.

But you don’t want to vote the person you think is my “buddy”? Why is that?

*popcorn*

because you're scummier, especially since you ignored the ultimatum entirely

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Actually now that it's pretty much confirmed who Nim is, I wonder if my usual tell will work this game too.

Who is Nim? Is she the alt of someone I should know?

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Actually now that it's pretty much confirmed who Nim is, I wonder if my usual tell will work this game too.

Who is Nim? Is she the alt of someone I should know?

Nim is the alt of somebody I have a very good success rate in reading.

who though?

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Actually now that it's pretty much confirmed who Nim is, I wonder if my usual tell will work this game too.

Who is Nim? Is she the alt of someone I should know?

Nim is the alt of somebody I have a very good success rate in reading.

who though?

is there a custom of not revealing alts' usernames?

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Nim is leaning scum for me after reading ISO, but basically none of the reasons that NMSA has given. Nor Enter (I think? Need to reread his reasons).

Need to flesh out my thoughts on it at some point because its not sorted out completely.

How To Agree With a Read For Towncred Without Supporting the Player Accurately Scumreading You 101.

They really need to make that class have a shorter name.

Yep, I called it. I want bragging rights.

That's three. I gave you fair warning here:

Nim and Brig are scum. At least one of Enter and Ank are town. I'll willingly wagon Nim or Brig at any point.

unfortunately nothing you're scumreading nim for is ai
(not that i know how to read either but yeah)
i'm undecided wrt brig atm

scumreading nim for refusing to do what I asked, despite making it clear that I would continue to scumread

Because I got tired of repeating myself yesterday, ad nauseum.

All you did was claim that you had answered the wuestion. You never actually showed me or anyone else where you did so. If you do not, in your next three posts, quote me what post had the question, what post had your answer, and why it is valid, I will put you at conf!scum and you will not leave that point until you die.

you made two posts after that, which I marked:

Nim is leaning scum for me after reading ISO, but basically

none of the reasons that NMSA has given

. Nor Enter (I think? Need to reread his reasons).

Need to flesh out my thoughts on it at some point because its not sorted out completely.

Okay.

I think you and NMSA are partners here. What do I win?

and

Nim is leaning scum for me after reading ISO, but basically none of the reasons that NMSA has given. Nor Enter (I think? Need to reread his reasons).

Need to flesh out my thoughts on it at some point because its not sorted out completely.

How To Agree With a Read For Towncred Without Supporting the Player Accurately Scumreading You 101.

Nice distancing.

This post makes three. Nim is conf!scum her own choice.

VOTE: NMSA

textbook OMGUS

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*by her own choice

Interesting, that you haven’t even tried to refute what I’ve been saying.

I was tr you until you slipped by linking me with Brigitte. No way you are town here.

Interesting, that you haven't even tried to answer my simple question.

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is NMSA and Nimueh like blood related?

?

read your posts, you both are like on the same kind of wavelength.

But I'm not scumreading you

and NMSA

.

What?

I'm not scumreading myself, obviously.

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SKITTER. TELL ME WHAT READS TO GIVE THESE TWO!!!!

Ask yourself two questions. Did I make it clear what I wanted from Nim? Did she respond as requested? That should help you sort her.

Why did you link me and Brigitte? I’m not letting you worm out of this.

Because both of you were scummy, though Brigitte is becoming marginally less so by comparison with you.

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ngl i kinda want to vote nimueh; she feels really flat here for her and i'm kinda surprised that she's not scumreading enter here tbh

pedit

WHY ARE YOU ASKING MY OPINION!!!!!!

I DONT TRUST MYSELF RIGHT NOW!!!

chill. regardless of alignment you need to calm down and read isos for reads or something.

don't flail

.

I legit can’t tell anymore if this is bussing or not but you voting me and persisting in ignoring the elephant in the room, is pinging my scumdar off the charts rn.

the elephant in the room being?

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this is surreal.

What do you think of Nim refusing to answer my questions, and her developing read of me and Vrig as the scumteam?

Why are you continuing to ignore my question?

You have 0 reason to link me and Brigitte here, other than we’re both being pushed

.

You continuing to ignore this, is scumclaiming.

Keep reading, this readthrough is too slow for me.

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The annoying part about this is that nothing I say will get across to Nim until she's read for another 10 minutes, by which time there will be even more for her to respond to.

Pedit:

i don't understand the narrative nimueh is pushing rn

Nor do I.

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Honestly, Nimueh's crappy play is making me want to win this game so bad just to prove she's wrong.

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that's fine, just knowing you have is enough to lower the possible people you can be down to two people anyways

and btw that means that them playing like this is NAI

I would still tr you here, even if I hadn’t played with you before but obviously that helps.

i feel like the ank townread is lazy and/or undeveloped too

True, almost all of my posts yesterday could be categorized that way. However, my read on her hasn’t changed.

Don't try to use this as an excuse for not answering my questions

.

Sorry, this isn’t working. You continuing to deflect my question about you linking me with Brigitte, is looking really realy bad for you rn.

keeeeeep reading

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Stop

Responding

Until

She

Is

Caught

Up

I'm sure she can read faster than I can post.

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VOTE: nimueh

Bad vote Skitter, I’m 100% flipping town.

Oh wow, Nim says she's town, must be town I guess.

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Stop

Responding

Until

She

Is

Caught

Up

I'm sure she can read faster than I can post.

Yeah but I'm not interested in reading a back and forth that's 2 pages apart on both sides

That's almost impossible to keep track of and literally useless

idk aboout useless but fine. have 30 minutes without me. once everyone's caught up, we can have meaningful conversation again

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SKITTER. TELL ME WHAT READS TO GIVE THESE TWO!!!!

Ask yourself two questions. Did I make it clear what I wanted from Nim? Did she respond as requested? That should help you sort her.

Why did you link me and Brigitte? I’m not letting you worm out of this.

Because both of you were scummy, though Brigitte is becoming marginally less so by comparison with you.

So, you’re saying you don’t see any partnery interactions between us then?

Because this is really not a good answer to my question. Sr both of us isn’t the reason I’m voting you,

linking us together

, is.

I think Brig is scum because she acted scummy, and that you're scum becasue you acted scummy. It's really not that hard to understand.

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ngl i kinda want to vote nimueh; she feels really flat here for her and i'm kinda surprised that she's not scumreading enter here tbh

pedit

WHY ARE YOU ASKING MY OPINION!!!!!!

I DONT TRUST MYSELF RIGHT NOW!!!

chill. regardless of alignment you need to calm down and read isos for reads or something.

don't flail

.

I legit can’t tell anymore if this is bussing or not but you voting me and persisting in ignoring the elephant in the room, is pinging my scumdar off the charts rn.

the elephant in the room being?

You told Brigitte to stop “flailing” or something, which is why I think you two are linked. also that uberweird “course” exchange earlier.

flailing as in posting uselessly about how you can't get a read. the "course" thing was me scumreading her sarcasticly.

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You just answered your own question. It wasn’t at all cool what you said and yes, you absolutely do owe me an apology for that.

I don’t engage with anyone who uses mean-spirited attacks on me.

Lol, you attacked me first.

*punches me
*me punches back

I don't talk to people who punch me

Your self-awareness is 0

Where did I attack or “punch” you?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphor

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I don't know what to do with this information.

Don’t threaten me with that or I will seriously consider replacing out.

Why would I threaten you with it?

Good, well I know that NMSA has been pushing for this.

Btw, why are you voting Tictac?

care to explain?

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ngl i kinda want to vote nimueh; she feels really flat here for her and i'm kinda surprised that she's not scumreading enter here tbh

pedit

WHY ARE YOU ASKING MY OPINION!!!!!!

I DONT TRUST MYSELF RIGHT NOW!!!

chill. regardless of alignment you need to calm down and read isos for reads or something.

don't flail

.

I legit can’t tell anymore if this is bussing or not but you voting me and persisting in ignoring the elephant in the room, is pinging my scumdar off the charts rn.

the elephant in the room being?

You told Brigitte to stop “flailing” or something, which is why I think you two are linked. also that uberweird “course” exchange earlier.

flailing as in posting uselessly about how you can't get a read. the "course" thing was me scumreading her sarcasticly.

So, why isn’t your vote on her then, if you think she’s “flailing”?

because, as I have said, you'rs scummier

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ngl i kinda want to vote nimueh; she feels really flat here for her and i'm kinda surprised that she's not scumreading enter here tbh

pedit

WHY ARE YOU ASKING MY OPINION!!!!!!

I DONT TRUST MYSELF RIGHT NOW!!!

chill. regardless of alignment you need to calm down and read isos for reads or something.

don't flail

.

I legit can’t tell anymore if this is bussing or not but you voting me and persisting in ignoring the elephant in the room, is pinging my scumdar off the charts rn.

the elephant in the room being?

You told Brigitte to stop “flailing” or something, which is why I think you two are linked. also that uberweird “course” exchange earlier.

flailing as in posting uselessly about how you can't get a read. the "course" thing was me scumreading her sarcasticly.

So, why isn’t your vote on her then, if you think she’s “flailing”?

because, as I have said, you'rs scummier

None of that explains why you thinked we’re linked.

I'm not linking you for your interaction together. I'm calling you both scum because you both acted scummy.

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@NMSA, You can read us as both scummy without linking us, you know.

That's what I've been doing.

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Not much time to post, but skitter is a strong townread, and it should be easier for everyone else to see now why Nim and Brig are scum.

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I was gonna vote Brig... then I saw L-1 and was gonna declare intent to hammer... then it became unnecessary. I have one question for Brigitte now:

WHY

Selfhammering is clearly antitown. Why not claim at L-1 and try to keep yourself alive for the town? Oh wait, because you're scum. Because only scum selfhammers.

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creature is still sketchy imo
i'm pretty sure this is flipping town tbh

chara's town
elbirn i think is probably town
urap2 was town so xtoxm is town but he himself is kinda null
enter was townie iirc but i don't super much on succint
i lost my townread on reck at some point
ank townread i think is still there

i don't have a read on flubber really
tris i think is quite a lot scummier in the event of a brigitte townflip

nimueh idk
and i'm blanking on someone but i don't remember who it is offhand

Yes hello you're blanking on me.

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This makes chara and succinct the main points of interest on the brigette wagon

Why? Because they were on the end of that wagon?

I wish Brigitte had hardclaimed BEFORE she self-hammered because reasonable chance whomever hammered after that, would be scum.

I wasn’t online for most of yesterday, I thought we would have one more day. I’m still not tr Skitter but Brigitte flip makes me feel worse now about NMSA. Considering his hard scumread on me and Brigitte and knowing it was Brigitte on the chopping block and not me, why did he only consider voting her at L-1?

I can’t help wondering if I had been the leading wagon instead of Brigitte, would his vote also have been on Brigitte then?

Nah, it would've been on you cause I thought (and still think) you're scum.

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the turn around on nmsa was incredibly townie and i don't think it comes from scum

his very very early game and how he pushed nmsa was also pretty townie and nuanced and i don't think scum!him pushes a mislynch that way (or lolbusses a partner that way) or says things like 'if he flips town i know i'm the lynch tomorrow' (which he said repeatedly) - if scum!him is aware enough of the gamestate that he knows that a mislynch would result in his own lynch i odn't think he's confident enough to push it as aggressively as he did, and the whole push started too early and was too hard to be a bus (and the turn-around on nmsa didn't happen at the time i feel like it would have if it had been a bus)

mindmelding at various points of the game (esp. wrt the ank/brigitte thing)

there was probably more but if there is it happened long enough ago that i'm blanking

I wouldn't say it was incredibly townie, just a bit townie. It feels like you're trying to take advantage of game length and the replace-out to defend yourself by tring a general(?) townread.

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I don't think either Elbirn or xtoxm have said anything about their vote on me today?

Around here-ish is when I feel the lynch was locked into tris/brigette. Maybe I'm wrong on tris, then.

Hmm? What about the vote count indicates I'm town?

--------------------------------

Have I said that I townread Nimueh? Because I do.

VOTE: succinct for now. I need to reread chara wrt the brig wagon

What is this vote about?

I wouldn't say it was incredibly townie, just a bit townie. It feels like you're trying to take advantage of game length and the replace-out to defend yourself by tring a general(?) townread.

it was incredibly townie, and it's a read i've had since like page30, or whenever it happened, so saying i'm giving a popular read just now to defend myself in the present is kinda silly, esepcially as i'm saying it when others are questioning their reads on the slot - if i'm trying to conform my read to others, as you're suggesting, now is not the right time to reaffirm my townread on him

Yes, what he said wrt that, makes absolutely no sense, especially since he considered you a “strong townread” earlier. This complete 180 on you for this “silly” reason, is why my vote is currently on him.

I like this.

VOTE: NMSA Explain more your thoughts on skitter.

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I'm starting to lean a little town on Flubber. It's weak, but it seems like there might be a genuine process there.

I was sheeping someone's fairly reasonable argument, iirc. I've kinda lost the thread of this game tbh, can't think straight about it. Not sure how t defend my vote, cause I can't remember why I made it.

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This is rapidly looking like Nimueh was the scum I wrongfully townread

This is a scumtell

What specifically is the scumtell? The fact that she didn't answer the question, or something else?

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I still don’t understand why you are even sr me at this point. I am not dping anything similar to what you have sr me before. All I do know if that your read on me is dead wrong here. If you flip me, you have to promise that you will never claimed to be able to accurately read me ever again. Deal?

Entirely regardless of Ank's case, this is just ridiculous. Even on the off chance that Nim is town, which I highly doubt, one misread doesn't mean you can never claim to read someone accurately again.

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Do you have evidence that she does it as scum

Absense of doing something as town is not a good argument unless there's a damn good reason it's scumindicative

This is where my playing under this account is hurting this game. :/

I demanded Skitter respond to my questions regarding the disparity between 1636 and 2514 for damned good reason. I understand why you don’t understand why this is such a big deal to me but trust me on this. It makes absolutely no sense for Skitter to ever sr me for “overreacting” to votes on me. I’m sorry, short of outting myself, I can’t explain my case better but I know what I know and that is scummy af to me. But like I said, on the chance I misreading her post, I want her to either confirm or debunk my suspicions of her based on that.

Now you know what it's like when someone's not answering your questions despite your demands.

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@NMSA what are your reads on people now?

Hmm kinda mixed up cause my interest in this game kinda plummeted when activity did, so I'm not super confident with these but here ya go.

Nim is scum, I've made my arguments for this already. Pretty much my only strong read, especially since my sr on Brig fell through.
Elbirn idk, not enough to sort yet. null
Succinct, not sure, but a mild tr here bc of Enter
Xtoxm, same as above, slightly stronger tr bc of urap2 who I can maybe read slightly better from experience
skitter, was a tr, sheeped someone on a sr cause I was demotivated, null.
Chara, I have no clue, don't ask, I can't read the slot to save my life, null
reck, slight tr for tone, not much here
flubbernugget, not sure, I could see either, more involved interaction will help the read
tris, maaaayyybe a tiny sr for weird gut reasons, can't explain it
Creature, same as Elbirn
Apparently Branson is back instead of Ank, I have a lot of catching up to do, tr here, seems mildly legit

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where it's inevitable those scum will be lynched*

that was awkwardly worded, sorry

I usually default to scumslips are nai, but this one seemed different for some reason????

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Also of note is that the original NMSA wagon is the only time that all three of them aren't voting different people or unvoted entirely

Based on how scattered all the votes were in general even when there was a concentrated push on 1-2 slots, and considering they all never voted together even at the end of the day 1 wagons, that's indicative to me that there's something here

I believe tris is town and the wagon was mostly town lead (barring skitter, I think the unvote was a mistake if she was scum here)
Succinct wouldn't be scum with this
Neither would Chara
Nor xRECKONERx
Elbirn is probtown

Flubbernugget/Xtoxm/Nimueh > skitter30 > NMSA > Creature

This is roughly where I'm at

I like this, not sure why though

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I've completely lost my will to win this game, it died after the D1 lynch, and now it feels like diving into a pool of molasses just reading the thread. I'm perfectly willing to sheep Ank or skitter or someone if it will just get this game to the end or at least to a point where the game is moving fast than 2 posts a day. If Ank is scum taking advantage to lead town astray, then screw it the scumteam deserves the win because I just don't care enough anymore. VOTE: Flubber, I hope it's not L-1 or a hammer cause I'm sure not checking.

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I've completely lost my will to win this game, it died after the D1 lynch, and now it feels like diving into a pool of molasses just reading the thread. I'm perfectly willing to sheep Ank or skitter or someone if it will just get this game to the end or at least to a point where the game is moving fast than 2 posts a day. If Ank is scum taking advantage to lead town astray, then screw it the scumteam deserves the win because I just don't care enough anymore. VOTE: Flubber, I hope it's not L-1 or a hammer cause I'm sure not checking.

AUGHHH I WANT TO WRITE OFF NMSA SO BAD BUT THIS

IS

SO

FUCKING

TERRIBLE

sry, I was worn out and sick of how boring the game got, act how you wish I suppose, because if I were scum this would be useless wifom making me untrustable

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oh it's never too early for me to get paranoid

what a mood

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Trust for today at least?

If we don't lynch scum then I won't lead d3 unless the thread just completely dies

I'm fine with this

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Just noting here

Skitter has been sorting
Chara has been sorting
Nimueh has been sorting
Reck has been sorting
Creature I will trust the townreads of
Succinct has been sorting
tris has been sorting

NMSA is just... there
Elbirn had a sketchy return to the thread

Flubber has had really wooden contributions that make no sense
Xtoxm is just... wild flailing

Mostly agree, I'm "just... there" because I'm even worse at scumhunting in a nearly dead game without motivation than I usually am. idk about reck sorting, it's more reck getting mad, which seems to be his method of sorting. can't read anyone else at all.

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I don't really say this enough in games

Whenever I feel like I have a confident solve in a game and enough scum properly pegged to be able to push town into a win, I'm always much more afraid of getting NKed and town being thrown off track without me there than of getting my scumreads lynched

I don't want to get these lynches because I forced people to sheep me with no other choice

I want town to be set up to be able to get them without me there at all

And having someone who can hold a lot of influence over the rest of the town fall prey to a paranoic mindset as a solve is being put into effect is one of the single worst scenarios I can think of

I want to avoid that scenario much more than I want either of these lynches

If ank isn't town I will

literally

eat my hat

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VOTE: Flubber L-1

wait no VOTE: xtoxm

i think flub is town

Why?

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speaking of elbirn
he's done literally nothing in the past week now

Still hasn't.

I think this is scum #3

So you agree with my solve?

i kinda think elbirn is town tbh

Explain?

I’m townlocking Creature, Ank and Chara. Thanks Elbirn. <3

Not me?

I’m actually thinking now that everyone save Xtoxm, Elbirn and Flubber are town. Flubber at least in part due to associatives.

Your solve's compatible with mine, if you'd add NMSA in.

i really don't think Flubber/Elbirn/Xtoxm is ever a team here.

What about Flubber/Elbirn/NMSA?

What posts are your scumread on me based on?

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I like both Flubber and Xtoxn wagons and I'd predict about one total scum between both of them.

"about" does this mean you're fairly cinfident it's SvT? if so, which is more likely to be scum? how likely do you think it is that both are scum, or neither? I would agree with this statement if "about" were replaced with "at least"

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Creature I will trust the townreads of

-_-

I have a very bad track record of reading you, sorry :V

Then why do you trust his townreads?

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I like both Flubber and Xtoxn wagons and I'd predict about one total scum between both of them.

"about" does this mean you're fairly cinfident it's SvT? if so, which is more likely to be scum? how likely do you think it is that both are scum, or neither? I would agree with this statement if "about" were replaced with "at least"

Oh, I meant if we sum up both wagons, we'd have about one scum among the voters (because most of them are varying degrees of townread).

Ah ok, I see what you mean now. The questions still stand though, anyone feel free to answer them.

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Creature I will trust the townreads of

-_-

I have a very bad track record of reading you, sorry :V

Then why do you trust his townreads?

If plenty of players with more experience than you showed to be confident on one player being town, would you trust them?

ok, again I misunderstood.

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Mom dad stop fighting

I'll admit it, I laughed. Seriously though, we need to pick one of Xtoxm and Flubber and lynch. Even if it's not your preferred lynch, those two are the only ones being lynched today and we all know it. Just pick one and get it to L-1 for a claim ath the bare minimum. I'd prefer flubber, but

@mod can we have a vote count?

I want to see which one is currently bigger, and then sheep it until we get somwhere.

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You're fine mate I'm just a dork
Vote NMSA I don't want him near lylo

I'm not gonna sheep a lynch in lylo, I'm not that stupid. I just want a lynch on one of flubber or xtoxm because at least one is scum and needs to die.

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You're fine mate I'm just a dork
Vote NMSA I don't want him near lylo

I'm not gonna sheep a lynch in lylo, I'm not that stupid. I just want a lynch on one of flubber or xtoxm because at least one is scum and needs to die.

What am I missing that makes this dichotomy true
Because it sounds to me like you're bullshitting

I assume you voted me and don't want me near lylo because you think I'll make a thoughtless vote on town because I want a lynch and allow scum to quickhammer? I wanted people to sheep one lynch today so that we could at least get one, onstead of letting the two wagins that are likely both scum be derailed and not get either. I wouldn't do something just for the sake of getting a lynch in lylo cause that's suicide half the time.

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I think we're talking about two different things. I want to know why you say that necessarily one of xtoxm/flubber is scum. Forget the lylo comment

Oh ok I see. I pretty much agree with Ank on that stuff, flubber is refusing to contribute anything and xtoxm is being needlessly antagonistic.

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I'm gonna goahead and agree with Ank that town cohesion is done for. I'm crazy suspicious of the flubber claim, but I'm willing to lynch xtoxm just to see. VOTE: xtoxm If we can't get a lynch within irl today or tomorrow there's no way town has a chance bc we'll never agree enough on anything.

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I'm moving to Xtoxm if it gains another vote.

Ok. It's a lynch I like anyway. VOTE: xtoxm

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Okay, whatever

VOTE: Xtoxm

oh ok

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VOTE: xtoxm

crap did I just hammer without claim?

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VOTE: xtoxm

crap did I just hammer without claim?

No, Xtoxm did.

yeah I see that now

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So clearly my late unnecessary hammer vote is gonna look like opportunistic scum trying to get towncred if xtoxm flips scum, is there any good way to avoid accidental hammering, or should I just read through the whole thread before voting?

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aren't you replaced out?

Yeah, and since this is his first slip despite being gone for a while, it makes me wonder if this isn't intentional. Could there be a role that involved replacing out, or is that too meta to be legal?

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Well then. This changes a lot. Given the aforementioned case on why tris is town, and the fact that I know I'm town, reck almost certainly scumreads two town players. Even if I'm not obvtown, tris is because Flubber and scum in general wouldn't be that suicidal. This means reck is more likely than average to be scum. VOTE: reck

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okay, good points on NMSA.

Flubbernugget: I don't like much about the slot other than the name, but I'm willing to buy that he's sick and that it's preventing him from playing much. Null.

This is a really gross null read that hand waves having to provide real content on Flub by leaning on out of game stuff.

flubbernugget, not sure, I could see either, more involved interaction will help the read

Another fence sit on Flub later on.

Also of note is that the original NMSA wagon is the only time that all three of them aren't voting different people or unvoted entirely

Based on how scattered all the votes were in general even when there was a concentrated push on 1-2 slots, and considering they all never voted together even at the end of the day 1 wagons, that's indicative to me that there's something here

I believe tris is town and the wagon was mostly town lead (barring skitter, I think the unvote was a mistake if she was scum here)
Succinct wouldn't be scum with this
Neither would Chara
Nor xRECKONERx
Elbirn is probtown

Flubbernugget/Xtoxm/Nimueh > skitter30 > NMSA > Creature

This is roughly where I'm at

I like this, not sure why though

Now Flubber's in the town pile? Conveniently parroting Ank? Makes sense with NMSAscum/Anktown

I've completely lost my will to win this game, it died after the D1 lynch, and now it feels like diving into a pool of molasses just reading the thread. I'm perfectly willing to sheep Ank or skitter or someone if it will just get this game to the end or at least to a point where the game is moving fast than 2 posts a day. If Ank is scum taking advantage to lead town astray, then screw it the scumteam deserves the win because I just don't care enough anymore. VOTE: Flubber, I hope it's not L-1 or a hammer cause I'm sure not checking.

I'm not sure about this. Knowing the Flubber flip it kinda changes how I felt about it at the time. Would NMSA really come in and post an effortless post like this just to bus a scumbuddy?

VOTE: Flubber L-1

wait no VOTE: xtoxm

i think flub is town

Why?

And then questioning my townread on Flubber... someone NMSA agreed was town earlier... after saying he was null?

There's no read progression on Flubber and it's really weird to me. Null, null, now suddenly I agree with Ank that Flubber is town despite giving no reasons... then show up, vote him out of nowhere, and question why Reck is townreading him?

@NMSA: Can you talk me through your read progression on Flub?

Sure. As you guys can probably tell by my crappy play and join date, I'm new and bad at reading people, so I usually start off games with very few strong reads unless someone has been really scummy. I had no clue on flubber for a while because he had barely posted because he was sick. I had a positive gut reaction to Ank's post, and I was fine agreeing since I still had nothing on Flubber at that point. My flubber vote (which would have confirmed five town had he actually been lynched) came at a time when I hated the level of activity and just wanted the game to start moving or end. When you flipped your vote from flubber (who ended up flipping scum, incidentally) to xtoxm (who ended up flipping town, incidentally), I thought it looked odd enough to ask you why. Your response was extremely useful and explanatory, and not at all a passive-aggressive way of avoiding it.

VOTE: Flubber L-1

wait no VOTE: xtoxm

i think flub is town

Why?

ive explained this already im not going to do your work for you

What a nice, effective, pro-town way of answering my question. I can't remember if I did this already, so VOTE: reck.

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i think i'm decent enough at reading gamestates that i could sense what i would need to do to make that happen but i don't think i'm good enough at scum to actually do it well if that makes sense

i kinda tried pulling something kinda similar in the last extradition mafia actually (tried to not-bus a50 for most of the game; pretty sure nobody thought we were aligned in the end; i got caught for other reasons) but what i would have had to do here is on another level i think; don't think scum!me could pull it off

the way i did here

like i'm *very* hyper-aware of where that line is and i know how to get close to it but i'm very scared of going overboard at the same time

but this is all self-meta so :shrug:

Typo or scumslip? or am I misreading it?

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Okay maybe we can just lynch nmsa

Said Elbirn, without voting. By all means, lynch me, but get reck tomorrow. (scum!me could say this, hoping you guys wouldn't follow up, gaining towncred. that would give reck some towncred as well I think, but not much. given the risk of town actually lynching me, scum!me wouldn't like the odds, and probably wouldn't say it. this would be wifom if I were scum, but it's something to think about nonetheless.)

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i mean really?

I have no clue how to recognize a scumslip, so I may as well point it out to people who do.

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Something keeps bugging me about Ank. I don't know what it is. Every logical bone in my body says she should be town but I keep getting premonition flashes of "this is the mastermind that pulled this whole thing off" and it eats away at me. I think Ank's continued reprisal of "omg this is so outside my scum range" is what's really bugging me. I hate self meta, especially when it is repeated over and over as a way to clear yourself as town.

I don't think scum would post this

maybe not. it definitely rings town initially, but it doesn't fit with his other posting so far. I don't know his meta, does reck usually (for lack of a better word) get angry like he did a few times?

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As much as I would like to believe the "scum mastermind" theory if this were a story, I think it's just too unlikely that anyone actually pulls that off given how close it got. I'll review the vote progression on flubber though to see if it makes sense.

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yes

Pedit: @3561

ok. that post seems kinda out of character then.

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So having looked at flubber's votes, it looks like (up to the fakeclaim) creature and succinct were on him the whole way. skitter hopped on and off. Ank was there for a bit but left for xtoxm. I just realized how much this sounds like innuendo dangit. This suggests skitter could be distancing maybe.

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gonna go reread Chara's d3 iso, see if I find anything

pedit:

it fits tonally

he was just proven wrong on a read that was highly contested, so it makes sense that he's a lot less intense now than he was

the content itself hasn't really changed, just the way he's delivered it

I see what you mean. Is that another feature of his meta?

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So Chara seems townie to me, and I've decided to do a proper readlist for the first time in a while. That's incoming soon hopefully.

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Gut reads:

Elbirn: ehhhhhhhhhh I can't tell but maybe scum or misled town????
Nim: scumlean from ignoring my questions d1, but close to null from later posting
Succinct: I have no clue. Mild tr from Enter.
skitter: townlean from tone????
Chara: townlean from d3 opening, seems hard to fake but idk
reck: scummy, don't like the mildly illogical push on me/tris
tris: not enough content today, tr from voting Flubber?? or something I can't remember even though I just reread all the d2 vcs I is a dumb
Creature: No clue, not enough content, fear of lurkers means a small sr
Ank: town from the flubber push

purely logical readlist incoming soon maybe if I don't get bored/tired.

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Actually I'm too tired to do good logical analysis that'll have to wait. In the mean time please anyone who's on hmu with any questions you have.

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i think i'm decent enough at reading gamestates that i could sense what i would need to do to make that happen but i don't think i'm good enough at scum to actually do it well if that makes sense

i kinda tried pulling something kinda similar in the last extradition mafia actually (tried to not-bus a50 for most of the game; pretty sure nobody thought we were aligned in the end; i got caught for other reasons) but what i would have had to do here is on another level i think; don't think scum!me could pull it off

the way i did here

like i'm *very* hyper-aware of where that line is and i know how to get close to it but i'm very scared of going overboard at the same time

but this is all self-meta so :shrug:

Typo or scumslip? or am I misreading it?

Okay maybe we can just lynch nmsa

Said Elbirn, without voting. By all means, lynch me, but get reck tomorrow. (scum!me could say this, hoping you guys wouldn't follow up, gaining towncred. that would give reck some towncred as well I think, but not much. given the risk of town actually lynching me, scum!me wouldn't like the odds, and probably wouldn't say it. this would be wifom if I were scum, but it's something to think about nonetheless.)

i mean really?

I have no clue how to recognize a scumslip, so I may as well point it out to people who do.

So having looked at flubber's votes, it looks like (up to the fakeclaim) creature and succinct were on him the whole way. skitter hopped on and off. Ank was there for a bit but left for xtoxm. I just realized how much this sounds like innuendo dangit. This suggests skitter could be distancing maybe.

Gut reads:

Elbirn: ehhhhhhhhhh I can't tell but maybe scum or misled town????
Nim: scumlean from ignoring my questions d1, but close to null from later posting
Succinct: I have no clue. Mild tr from Enter.
skitter: townlean from tone????
Chara: townlean from d3 opening, seems hard to fake but idk
reck: scummy, don't like the mildly illogical push on me/tris
tris: not enough content today, tr from voting Flubber?? or something I can't remember even though I just reread all the d2 vcs I is a dumb
Creature: No clue, not enough content, fear of lurkers means a small sr
Ank: town from the flubber push

purely logical readlist incoming soon maybe if I don't get bored/tired.

If you think Skitter might have “scumslipped” or is “distancing”, then how is she still a townlean for you?

it's a gut reads list. it's based mostly on tone and however I'm feeling at the time. also notice the 4 question marks. I also said in a post you even quoted that I don't know how to recognize a scumslip.

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P.edit, yeah I agree about NMSA. I don’t see that he has either the game experience or scum expertise to likely pull off that kind of gambit, so I’m leaning rn to him being a probable mislynch. But his read on me, unlike Skitter’s has not been STATIC. Do you understand my point, @Tris? It’s not about whether or not she thinks I might be scum or not, it’s the total lack of any kind of progression on my slot thoughout the entire game, same is true for her Creature read. It’s like nothing I’ve posted in the entire game has imapcted her read on me, one way or another and having played with town!Skitter before, I’m having a great deal of trouble believing it’s real. It has read like a fake confibias to me, with Ank being the bar that lets her vote me or not. Ank trs me, she votes elesewhere. Ank srs me, bam, she votes me without a second thought. And her earlier reasons for voting me, read as contradictory to me. I’m both scum for over/underreacting to votes on me, pretty much. @NMSA, I honestly still don’t know for the life of me, exactly what question. you believe I was ignoring. I thought Tris already satisfactorily explained that?

Anyway, I will trust Ank/Creature reads. Ank was right about Flubber and Creature/Brigitte. So I am willing to re-evaluate but for rn, Skitter seems like the best vote and I’ve laid out my case why.

I don't remember what the question wa exactly, but htat's beside the point. The point was that at the time, you answered the wuestion with "I'd rather engage with you directly" when I said in the first line of the post that I'd scumread you if you didn't go find a relevant quote.

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As much as both of his main pushes skeeve me out reck looks better after his reads list than before. The fake anger thing I pointed out stemmed from the fact that I really didn't see anything that looked like provocation from me or Enter to actually irritate him in any reasonable way. It made his posting seem like he was more playing to a character than being genuinely crass. That was why I decided to unvote for him when the wagon was forming. I wanted as few irritants to reck at the time to see what he would and wouldn't get pissy about. That ended up being moot by the LAL push anyway.

As previously mentioned, I'm liking urap for scum. His pushes off the nmsa wagon were basically just a few new votes and wagon solicitations. And when nothing happened, they just tried the same thing with a new head. It's not really a productive way to try and form reads and doesn't come off as actually trying to solve the game.

Ank is looking pretty scummy too.

:THONK:

So I just had a thonk, and I see only two general possibilities. Scumteam is flubber/reck/(Elbirn or an inactive), or it's flubber/Ank/irrelevant cause the IC claim was planned and Ank really is the mastermind we haven't been looking for and this post was distancing to help conftown Ank and town has no chance. Obviously the second is a long shot, but it's possible. Discuss.

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3150 was made at 12:50 pm.

So NMSA actually voted for Xtoxm twice but since the second vote was post-hammerUNVOTE: , it wouldn’t get counted, approximately 7 hours before Xtoxm self-hammered.

So, Reck can probably only be scum with Elbirn and Skitter probably only with NMSA, so gun to head, I think scum is Flubber/NMSA/Skitter.

I think NMSA “hammered” because he knew his vote wouldn’t be counted post-hammer and that no one would notice but thankfully Tris caught that.

So rn, I want to vote for one of them I think.

UNVOTE:
At that point I was just careless and it didn't occur to me that I might have accidentally hammered, much less that the hammer had already happened.
VOTE: NMSA

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idc

I feel like I'm the first NK for most scumteams here anyways so I'm just going to assume every day is my last

I think this setup is mountainous right? So no tprs in this game. If you are, it would likely mean that your reads are probably on the right track.

Oh good Nim scum slipped. We can just vote this and win yes?

Hmmm along with the weirdly fast flip on me, my sr on Nim might be coming back... would flubber/reck/nim make sense?

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You know

Fuck it, I'll just deal with the heartbreak post-game

Elbirn - Nimueh - NMSA - Creature should have all the scum.

add reck and take me out and I'm with you 100%. Also I think Elbirn is right here, and it goes with my current gut read so VOTE: Nimueh

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idc

I feel like I'm the first NK for most scumteams here anyways so I'm just going to assume every day is my last

I think this setup is mountainous right? So no tprs in this game. If you are, it would likely mean that your reads are probably on the right track.

Yeah, I thought it was, because Mod was the captain and sample role pm, was a crewman, just like Brigitte and Xtoxm flip.

And same as my own as well.

What, and you can't imagine "First Mate" as flavor? bs

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There are 3 Mafia and 10 Vanilla Townies.

yes, but the trick is that we weren't told that was the setup till here, which is decidedly not on pg1

wait nvm

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No, it doesnt spell out mountainous. Spelling it out would have been posting in the op: 'this game is 10:3 mountainous

It means it's flavor and if it was meant to describe the setup it would have been explictly stated somewhere in the op.

You're also

changing your story

wrt where you got the notion of 'mountainous' from - it was originally from your role pm and brigitte's flip

Pedit ffs i didnt say i was scumreafing you for this

emphasis mine

LaL, Nim is scum

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Hey you're doing that thing
We're playing a game. Theres nothing personal about this.

I see what you're saying about the setup; my issue with it is that I dont see that as being a conclusion I would have drawn, and that makes it hard for me to believe that it's a conclusion you came to. There are games that have flavor where the mod is a N0 kill and that have a vanilla town flipped and never have I gone "oh wow this must be mountainous". So that makes it hard for me to see what you're saying as being so obvious. Yaknow?

So, you think I’m scum because I came to fypov a different logical conclusion that you did and in some alternate universe, that somehow constitutes a “scumslip”.

Answer carefully, you may want the frame this post-game.

He'll only have to if he's town. There's only one way for Nim to know for certain someone is town.

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This is frustrating. I can't think clearly about the game with all this noise. Goodnight.

Sorry but I’m not scum here and I will not be mislynched, without trying to defend myself. I’m sorry if I made too many posts about that. :/

I just go eat my dinner and I come back to that. It kind of threw me for a loop because I don’t even understand how making obvious logical inferences from the setup spec pg 1, makes me scum here.

not obvious, see the first mate idea I had, it would still have been valid after the brig flip

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3150 was made at 12:50 pm.

So NMSA actually voted for Xtoxm twice but since the second vote was post-hammerUNVOTE: , it wouldn’t get counted, approximately 7 hours before Xtoxm self-hammered.

So, Reck can probably only be scum with Elbirn and Skitter probably only with NMSA, so gun to head, I think scum is Flubber/NMSA/Skitter.

I think NMSA “hammered” because he knew his vote wouldn’t be counted post-hammer and that no one would notice but thankfully Tris caught that.

So rn, I want to vote for one of them I think.

UNVOTE:

At that point I was just careless and it didn't occur to me that I might have accidentally hammered, much less that the hammer had already happened.

VOTE: NMSA

Meant for that stuff to go outside the quote, my bad.

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idc

I feel like I'm the first NK for most scumteams here anyways so I'm just going to assume every day is my last

I think this setup is mountainous right? So no tprs in this game. If you are, it would likely mean that your reads are probably on the right track.

Oh good Nim scum slipped. We can just vote this and win yes?

Hmmm along with the weirdly fast flip on me, my sr on Nim might be coming back... would flubber/reck/nim make sense?

No.

Can you explain what you think about reck at least?

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You know

Fuck it, I'll just deal with the heartbreak post-game

Elbirn - Nimueh - NMSA - Creature should have all the scum.

add reck and take me out and I'm with you 100%. Also I think Elbirn is right here, and it goes with my current gut read so VOTE: Nimueh

You voted Xtoxm 7 hours before he self-hammered approximately, then you fake hammered him. I changed my vote because I incorrectly thought you stayed on Flubber until that time and it cleared you.

And why is Creature scum, other than sheer bs opportunism on your part?

because I can't read Creature at all from meta obviously, and I have a slight gut scumread from tone+activity

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idc

I feel like I'm the first NK for most scumteams here anyways so I'm just going to assume every day is my last

I think this setup is mountainous right? So no tprs in this game. If you are, it would likely mean that your reads are probably on the right track.

Yeah, I thought it was, because Mod was the captain and sample role pm, was a crewman, just like Brigitte and Xtoxm flip.

And same as my own as well.

What, and you can't imagine "First Mate" as flavor? bs

Did you read that post? Did you see any “first mate” mentioned anywhere? No, all you saw was nsg Captain and crewmates. Nice WIFOM though.

Is a first mate not part of the crew? Funny, I almost make the mistake of thinking "crewmen" applied to everyone on the crew, including the Secret Agents we know exist.

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This is frustrating. I can't think clearly about the game with all this noise. Goodnight.

Sorry but I’m not scum here and I will not be mislynched, without trying to defend myself. I’m sorry if I made too many posts about that. :/

I just go eat my dinner and I come back to that. It kind of threw me for a loop because I don’t even understand how making obvious logical inferences from the setup spec pg 1, makes me scum here.

not obvious, see the first mate idea I had, it would still have been valid after the brig flip

Brigitte flipped crewman, like my role pm, like in the setup spec on the fiirst page of this game, so what’s your point exactly?

that after that flip, there could still have been a first mate

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Votecount 2.5

Flubbernugget(5)

~ Creature(47), Succinct(15), NotMySpamAccount(25), skitter30(110), tris(16)

Xtoxm(2)

~ Chara(66), Nimueh(172)

tris(2)

~ xRECKONERx(25), Elbirn(32)

Chara(1)

~ Flubbernugget(43)

Ankamius(1)

~ Xtoxm(29)


Not Voting (1): Ankamius(219)

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch. The Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2019-03-19 23:56:59).

Mod Notes:

skitter30 is V/LA on weekends.
Nimueh is V/LA while sick.

Scumteam has to be Elbirn/Reck. I think it’s Flubber/Elbirn/Reck and I’ve solved the game. If I’m right, I want bragging rights.

I really need to stop doubting myself. I am not terrible at this game. It just took me awhile - okay, a very long while but I eventually got there. \o/

Congrats on being the second person to think of this.

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You were literally locktown until you scumslipped
And then I did in fact reconsider my read
I am sorting you
You're just scum.

Please lynch this. No way in hell does this kind of post ever come from town.

Just tell us who’s your partner? Is it Reck or someone else?

I disagree, someone annoyed by your posting style could be town and post this if they believed the scumslip, which isn't as crazy as you seem to think.

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Votecount 2.5

Flubbernugget(5)

~ Creature(47), Succinct(15), NotMySpamAccount(25), skitter30(110), tris(16)

Xtoxm(2)

~ Chara(66), Nimueh(172)

tris(2)

~ xRECKONERx(25), Elbirn(32)

Chara(1)

~ Flubbernugget(43)

Ankamius(1)

~ Xtoxm(29)


Not Voting (1): Ankamius(219)

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch. The Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2019-03-19 23:56:59).

Mod Notes:

skitter30 is V/LA on weekends.
Nimueh is V/LA while sick.

Scumteam has to be Elbirn/Reck. I think it’s Flubber/Elbirn/Reck and I’ve solved the game. If I’m right, I want bragging rights.

I really need to stop doubting myself. I am not terrible at this game. It just took me awhile - okay, a very long while but I eventually got there. \o/

Congrats on being the second person to think of this.

Sorry, who was the first then? I probably missed it.

me, it's in my iso

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At least 1 and probably 2 of reck/elbirn/nim are scum. lynch one today, we win, or one leaves tonight, and we determine if the last is scum or not. that's how we win this. leaning towards scum!reck, so I'd lynch there today. also, people going on about my fakehammer, I didn't even realize I had already voted, that's how low my motivation to care was

[NotMySpamAccount]

No time to read, [/b]@mod v/la till Monday

if one of reck/nim/elbirn isn't dead when I come back, someone has explaining to do

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At least 1 and probably 2 of reck/elbirn/nim are scum. lynch one today, we win, or one leaves tonight, and we determine if the last is scum or not. that's how we win this. leaning towards scum!reck, so I'd lynch there today. also, people going on about my fakehammer, I didn't even realize I had already voted, that's how low my motivation to care was

can you explain using actual words why you read me as scum

Your play seems very anti-town, as if there's nothing really happening. I think that's what it was at the time. I've been gone for the weekend and my reads have reset. It's time to redevelop them.

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Scumteam has to be Elbirn/Reck. I think it’s Flubber/Elbirn/Reck and I’ve solved the game. If I’m right, I want bragging rights.

again, ill ask: what part of me/flub interacting makes sense SvS

uh the fact that you badly townread him the whole time he was alive and refused to vote him

there is more subtext to interactions than TOWN MAN DEFEND BAD MAN TOWN MAN BAD MAN

ok what subtext do you think i'm ignoring in this specific context?

the way he and i interacted does not look SvS (then again im probably biased)

like, townies accidentally defend scum all the time. look past it.

ah yeah this was it, the "vote flubber," "wait no he's town, vote someone else" posts make no sense

[NotMySpamAccount]

Ankamius has requested replacement.

Votecount soon. Sorry, the votecounter seems to have run into some issue.

well craap bye Ank we're screwed now

[NotMySpamAccount]

what changed your mind on your interactions looking really bad?
why weren't you suspicious of mine?

not sure i follow?

i think in general my play of "being on the wrong wagon every day and specifically staying off flub" is bad play and im ashamed of it

however, i think the interactions between me n flub arent svs if you really look at them with a deeper critical eye

"deeper critical eye" can you play like this instead of like a troll?

[NotMySpamAccount]

Hello!

hello

[NotMySpamAccount]

Is this a normal game? Where was the kill Night 1?

Why does it say that scum "escaped" Night 2?

Flubbernugget, Secret Agent, escaped Night 2

I'm gonna assume she finds out about the setup later.

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I already know Flubber flipped scum, sadly.

how?

[NotMySpamAccount]

welcome Tohru. sorry to see you go, Ankamius.

I think this game is as simple as "more / bigger posts = town, worse posts = scum".

oh ok I know now you read new posts during your reread

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it's listed as a mini theme, this isn't a Normal.

pedit: i understand that, though it's a little hard to connect to your thoughts when they lack context. post numbers of quotes would help because it's hard to do anything with a contextless day 1 read that will likely be irrelevant by the end of your catchup.

agree. hopefully this changes

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welcome Tohru. sorry to see you go, Ankamius.

I've completely lost my will to win this game, it died after the D1 lynch, and now it feels like diving into a pool of molasses just reading the thread. I'm perfectly willing to sheep Ank or skitter or someone if it will just get this game to the end or at least to a point where the game is moving fast than 2 posts a day. If Ank is scum taking advantage to lead town astray, then screw it the scumteam deserves the win because I just don't care enough anymore. VOTE: Flubber, I hope it's not L-1 or a hammer cause I'm sure not checking.

AUGHHH I WANT TO WRITE OFF NMSA SO BAD BUT THIS

IS

SO

FUCKING

TERRIBLE

This is top quality considering Flubber is actually scum.

which post, mine or reck's?

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How is NMSA still alive over Brigitte and Xtoxm who were miles townier?

cause I have reasons for what I do instead of insulting everyone's play with no evidence

[NotMySpamAccount]

VOTE: Elbirn

ISO'd Succinct. Ehhhhhhhh.

why so many vote changes? I want reasoning.

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Just realized. We ought to be careful about putting someone at L-1. If they're town, and there is mafia off-wagon, they could quickhammer and then leave the following night.

Town post

contrasted with:

No time to read, [/b]@mod v/la till Monday

if one of reck/nim/elbirn isn't dead when I come back, someone has explaining to do

Why are you in such a hurry? We are nowhere near deadline and the #1 widely read obvtownread, just replaced into this game.

I hadn't read anything, I was leaving for the weekend in lterally 5 minutes, so I didn't know about Ank's repout. reck/nim/elbirn contains at least one and most likely 2 scum, I gave y'all the weekend to get one. It's not that hard.

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No time to read, [/b]@mod v/la till Monday

if one of reck/nim/elbirn isn't dead when I come back, someone has explaining to do

I know I’m town and this post is screaming, Reck mislynch.

why not a mislynch on anyone other than reck from those three? You could, if you were town, be unhappy about me pushing a mislynch on you. And if I were scum, leaving my vote on reck but getting one of the other two mislynched would be a decent way to get towncred. I would have a fantasatic motive for a mislynch on someone other than reck if I were scum, but you only defend reck. could the team be flubber/nim/reck, with nim gunning for an elbirn mislynch?

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You know

Fuck it, I'll just deal with the heartbreak post-game

Elbirn - Nimueh - NMSA - Creature should have all the scum.

add reck and take me out and I'm with you 100%. Also I think Elbirn is right here, and it goes with my current gut read so VOTE: Nimueh

At least 1 and probably 2 of reck/elbirn/nim are scum. lynch one today, we win, or one leaves tonight, and we determine if the last is scum or not. that's how we win this.

leaning towards scum!reck, so I'd lynch there today

. also, people going on about my fakehammer, I didn't even realize I had already voted, that's how low my motivation to care was

But his vote is still on me. He wants Reck flipped but is voting me, so he can get towncred when Reck probably flips town.

Elbirn probably escapes.

And my mislynch follows.

NMSA escapes and scum wins.

What do I win?

wait is my vote not on reck? if not, VOTE: reck also pls give reasons for why this is the necessary progression of hte next few days, or you win nothing

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How is NMSA still alive over Brigitte and Xtoxm who were miles townier?

Okay, I'm 100% current.

Here we go:

tohru

Reckoner
Chara
Nimueh

tris
Creature
skitter30

-
NMSA
Succint
Elbirn

VOTE: Elbirn

fwiw, i think nim is town. i just can't with the spamposting and hyperantics

Scum!Reck never makes this post. What are the odds that the only two people voting me and one pushing Reck are my two current strongest scumreads?

NMSA isn’t very happy with Ank replace in.

I didn't even know about it.

[NotMySpamAccount]

Correction: Creature is actually probably town.

Scumreads don't change.

@Nimueh, @Chara, @Reckoner, would really appreciate more votes on Succinct please.

I think you guys want this game to end way more than I do, so let's cooperate. I really do not want to make this hard, considering what you guys have been through so far.

why is creature town?

[NotMySpamAccount]

Maybe you could, I dunno, give a single reason why anyone should vote Succinct?

I hate alts.

agree with this. Why is Succinct scum?

[NotMySpamAccount]

Elbirn
Succint
Chara
NotMySpamAccount
tris

It's 5p LyLo, two of you are scum, the rest of us are treestumps. If you lynch someone wrong, you lose (not in practice, but let's do like this).

idk why neither of nim and reck aren't here, but I would vote elbirn in this thought experiment

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Maybe you could, I dunno, give a single reason why anyone should vote Succinct?

I hate alts.

Sure. Apart from his abysmally low postcount, post quality, and thereby remarkably poor contribution to the game, I also have not been able to find a single reason to townread him in a 150-pager. Looking at his ISO, it's scummily-barren, he isn't trying to gamesolve or have the conviction that town would. I did think Elbirn was scummy, however, after re-examining and eliminating my biases, I conclude that Succinct is more likely to be scum.

If I could bet right now, I'd be betting a good amount of money on Succinct to flip scum.



Oh, and, please do take that negativity out of here. We've already had enough players replace out of this game as it is.

I honestly see what you mean. Now I'm uncertain on Succinct too hggggghhghgh

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To put it in other terms, Succinct was never

pushing

Flubbernugget, he was only

voting

him.

Again, I had the same doubts as you yesterday, which was why I hesitated temporarily switched back to Elbirn. But upon re-analysis I believe this is the best conclusion.

ok I see what you mean. Succinct is ack in my lynchpool for tomorrow, probably not otoday tho

[NotMySpamAccount]

What posts are your scumread on me based on?

Most since replacing in; prominent offenders: 2273, 2668, 2801.
Since then, 3065 as well.

I am going to IC tomorrow

Can we please agree to speedlynch Flubber tomorrow when this is inevitably shown false?

Pretty sure we all know it's bs, but we're all going to let him prove it regardless.

VOTE: NotMySpamAccount

then again everyone fell for the stupid IC claim

Pardon:
I did not.

I still prefer this as a scumbuddy:
VOTE: NotMySpamAccount
And still think Elbirn's the third.

if the IC claim actually was a plan (i don't know if it was.) then the scum 'mastermind' is here. hence the votepark, because there was a plan to move.
vote change post: believes Flubber is lying and that the IC claim is fake, but immediately moves and sighs about scum him living another day. considering this is Succinct's only scumread, i wonder why they didn't go harder on it, or consider

why

scum Flubber decides to try and live another day for seemingly no reason.
the reason this is significant is because of Succinct's apparent lock-belief in Flubber scum. haven't looked at the timing of the change yet; will do so.

second post: needs to remind the thread that they didn't believe Flubber was actually going to IC. this looks like an attempt to show they never thought Flubber was going to flip town.
this also fits with scum knowing Flubber was going to escape. Succinct wants the best interactions/distancing with Flubber.

hmmm good points here

[NotMySpamAccount]

i was really townreading Enter so i need to reconcile that.

this is the problem though, Enter was a tr for a while. I also flipped my reads on him a lot though, so I could def see Succinctt as scum.

[NotMySpamAccount]

if i really think you're right on him being town, i'll vote Succinct.
tris and NMSA are town for other reasons, tris moreso, and skitter and Ank are town. Creature really is and Nim's patterns still fit what i think is town.
scum Reck not wanting to go after Nim here is a good point but i feel he would have other options (it seems like NMSA eternally gets votes) so i'm uncomfortable locktowning him based on that alone.

Okay, I’m liking this post more. But you need to see it from mpov which you’re obviously not. Considering that I’m being currently voted by at least one horrible town and another slot I sr, can you seriously not understand why you being even remotely hedgey on me, doesn’t completely reassure me?

Because if you do, you would clearly see why your frustration at me, is obviously misplaced. Yes Tris is also hedgey on me but I have other reasons to think she’s town here.

Who's voting for you?

NSG hasn't posted a votecount since Day 3, I think.

Yes, she said the vote counter is broken or something?

Elbirn voted me for dumbass reasons and NMSA immediately jumped onboard. That’s the main reason why Chara’s defensiveness is irritating to me. I’m sure if she had two votes on her, she would not find her posts very reassuring if I made them. Why? Because it is my very strong current belief that scum is trying to set up Reck/me mislynches. Therefore anyone both pushing Reck and not townlocking me, who I can’t townlock for other reasons, can’t help pinging me.

I am displeased with Elbirn and NMSA's manner of playing the game. But with a heavy heart I must announce that they can be town, and am therefore tasked with the insurmountable responsibility of trying to prove that to the rest of you.

I do wish they were lynched Day 1 and Day 2 instead of Brigitte and Xtoxm. Their play is definitely ?

Unfortunately I also have to rally to them to help me lynch Succinct. *sigh*

I think I'm always scumread early regardless of align,eant, I should find a way to fix that.

[NotMySpamAccount]

Creature

>

skitter30 > tris = Ankamius

>

Nimueh >

Xtoxm = xRECKONERx = NotMySpamAccount = Elbirn = Chara

(need more on all of these)

>

Flubbernugget = Brigitte

Barring further info.

VOTE: Brigitte

Has Succinct ever explained his Flubber scumread? He magically arrived at this readslist on his 3rd post. But, coincidentally, votes Brigitte, who flips town, rather than the one who was scum.

I don't know about you guys, but this looks to be more fake than Grandma Nelly's teeth!

I like both the argumenat and the simile.

[NotMySpamAccount]

Spoiler:

if i really think you're right on him being town, i'll vote Succinct.
tris and NMSA are town for other reasons, tris moreso, and skitter and Ank are town. Creature really is and Nim's patterns still fit what i think is town.
scum Reck not wanting to go after Nim here is a good point but i feel he would have other options (it seems like NMSA eternally gets votes) so i'm uncomfortable locktowning him based on that alone.

Okay, I’m liking this post more. But you need to see it from mpov which you’re obviously not. Considering that I’m being currently voted by at least one horrible town and another slot I sr, can you seriously not understand why you being even remotely hedgey on me, doesn’t completely reassure me?

Because if you do, you would clearly see why your frustration at me, is obviously misplaced. Yes Tris is also hedgey on me but I have other reasons to think she’s town here.

Who's voting for you?

NSG hasn't posted a votecount since Day 3, I think.

Yes, she said the vote counter is broken or something?

Elbirn voted me for dumbass reasons and NMSA immediately jumped onboard. That’s the main reason why Chara’s defensiveness is irritating to me. I’m sure if she had two votes on her, she would not find her posts very reassuring if I made them. Why? Because it is my very strong current belief that scum is trying to set up Reck/me mislynches. Therefore anyone both pushing Reck and not townlocking me, who I can’t townlock for other reasons, can’t help pinging me.

I am displeased with Elbirn and NMSA's manner of playing the game. But with a heavy heart I must announce that they can be town, and am therefore tasked with the insurmountable responsibility of trying to prove that to the rest of you.

I do wish they were lynched Day 1 and Day 2 instead of Brigitte and Xtoxm. Their play is definitely ?

Unfortunately I also have to rally to them to help me lynch Succinct. *sigh*

That would be an awesome mechanic. Yeah, let’s swap horrible NMSA and Elbirn and bring back Brigitte and Xtoxm. I’m all for it.

I still think Elbirn is scum and NMSA is only town due to clear anti-partner associatives. Elbirn lied. He claimed to townlocked me, when the closest he ever got to that, is you can be town for now but if I sr you, we be cool crap.

admittedly, Elbirn caught you in a lie too

[NotMySpamAccount]

that wasn't very succinct

^

[NotMySpamAccount]

Yes, she said the vote counter is broken or something?

Elbirn voted me for dumbass reasons and NMSA immediately jumped onboard. That’s the main reason why Chara’s defensiveness is irritating to me. I’m sure if she had two votes on her, she would not find her posts very reassuring if I made them. Why? Because it is my very strong current belief that scum is trying to set up Reck/me mislynches. Therefore anyone both pushing Reck and not townlocking me, who I can’t townlock for other reasons, can’t help pinging me.

That would be an awesome mechanic. Yeah, let’s swap horrible NMSA and Elbirn and bring back Brigitte and Xtoxm. I’m all for it.

I still think Elbirn is scum and NMSA is only town due to clear anti-partner associatives. Elbirn lied. He claimed to townlocked me, when the closest he ever got to that, is you can be town for now but if I sr you, we be cool crap.

I dunno, I think Chara’s AtE seems genuine, where as Elbirn’s is just posturing. The only thing that gives me possible pause about it, is would scum!Elbirn really be that nasty? Would he really employ character assassination as a method to mislynch me? I’ve witnessed scum do it, so meta reads would be most useful in that regard. Like I know for me, I wouldn’t do that as scum but I’ve seen it happen and been on the receiving end of it.

.....Okay.

1. I've told you that I have zero interest in interacting with you any further. Stop taking cheap swipes at me from the sideline, its openly toxic and miserable.

2. I never lied and you repeatedly stating that I did is horseshit. Stop it. You were town to me, even if I didnt verbally suck your dick about it in thread. I sincerely had you as town because you are capable of decent analysis, except for when anyone disagrees with or scumreads you in which case your ability for intelligent discourse vanishes. The fact that you put me from town to lockscum and your most confident scumread solely in reaction to me scumreading you is fucking absurd. And earlier when I implored you to just be fucking chill: that was a call for fucking

civility

instead of this toxic bullshit you pull. That you want to turn that into a bizarro world reason to push me is fucking insulting.

3. I'd tell you to point me to any character assassination I've done considering I was doing my best to be civil previously, but hey I guess now you can just point everyone to this post so fuck me I guess.

Yeah Frozen Angel, do not sign up for a game I'm in ever again, under any alt, idgaf, every time i play with you is the literal worst experience

Just fucking go away

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Succinct

do you have anything original to say about succinct?

[NotMySpamAccount]

I actually don't know. Your scumteam actually played a pretty strong game to obscure that last scumbuddy, I'll say. Credit to your partner.

Alternatively, it's because I'm not scum and

actual

scum're taking advantage.

I've found evidence that you've confirmed yourself as scum in that quotewall you posted, so thank you for that. Right now as you're well aware, this is the stage of the rhetoric war where you try to avoid being lynched today such that you can escape immediately after. Unfortunately, unlike most games, this is a final-ultimatum sort of war? I (and town) lose if you escape; but your team loses if I lynch you. Usually in normal games everyone gets two chances.

what evidence?

[NotMySpamAccount]

Nimueh is FA?

News to me.

*Somewhere Ank is laughing her ass off at this*

this almost feels like a gameo f meta-mafia tryin to figure out if nim is lying about being FA, which would be the best way toconceal her identity if she were FA. idk though, no experience with either of you.

[NotMySpamAccount]

Whoa. Calm down, stop town-infighting, and vote Succinct with me.

Skitter is rebuking me for absolutely no good reason and throwing unwarranted shade on Reck and now Chara wants me to feel guilty for pointing this out? Well, fuck that! Between Skitter and Elbirn and now Chara. ENOUGH already!

Yeah, this game has multiple distractions. Vote Succinct with me, let the game end, and everyone breathe a sigh of relief, or if you guys are still feeling bitter, then leave the game.

I’m going to take a break before I say something to either Chara/Skitter/Elbirn, that gets me in trouble.

All 3 of you owe me a fucking aplology. Don’t fucking come at me again with this garbage, EVER!

{response deleted because I'm not gonna get involved with this}

[NotMySpamAccount]

This discussion has long stopped being about finding scum and game solving but instead extrapersonal and hot tempers.

If you are lost and do not feel that you are in the mood to think, if you are exhausted, or if you are fatigued from the game, please vote Succinct with me and end this.

screw it, this game is toxic, I don't even care anymore, VOTE: succinct to get out of this game

[NotMySpamAccount]

This is a terrible game, if someone could just vote succinct rn and get us out of this geadache I would be very ppreciative

[NotMySpamAccount]

Spoiler:

Nimueh is FA?

News to me.

*Somewhere Ank is laughing her ass off at this*

this almost feels like a gameo f meta-mafia tryin to figure out if nim is lying about being FA, which would be the best way toconceal her identity if she were FA. idk though, no experience with either of you.

Nimueh is FA?

News to me.

*Somewhere Ank is laughing her ass off at this*

this almost feels like a gameo f meta-mafia tryin to figure out if nim is lying about being FA, which would be the best way toconceal her identity if she were FA. idk though, no experience with either of you.

This line of inquiry is not fruitful, and I'm sorry I suggested who the alt may be, that was out of line. We should all drop this topic.

I honestly don’t have any issues with you at all. I didn’t realize that you thought I was someone you had prior issues with and now that I know it wasn’t me, I’m cool about it.

can you pls vote succinct to end this nightmare? toeuhfehs (not even gonna try to spell it) gave a good enough reason. Mafia is supposed to be fun, and this game has been the opposite. It needs to end, and if scum win, they win.

[NotMySpamAccount]

This discussion has long stopped being about finding scum and game solving but instead extrapersonal and hot tempers.

If you are lost and do not feel that you are in the mood to think, if you are exhausted, or if you are fatigued from the game, please vote Succinct with me and end this.

screw it, this game is toxic, I don't even care anymore, VOTE: succinct to get out of this game

This is a terrible game, if someone could just vote succinct rn and get us out of this geadache I would be very ppreciative

Why did you become like this right after doing a string of posts?

all the toxic bs with nim/chara/elbirn etc. gave me a headache. When I finished my readthrough I decided I didn't care enough to go all out trying to win this trainwreck. I just want succinct dead to bring the end closer, since there's a good enough reason succinct is scum.

[NotMySpamAccount]

Yawn, feeling like we're going to mislynch again

Inb4 Succint selfhammers

Who do you think is scum?

I didn't like NMSA's entrance rn. It was something like:

*does a string of posts* AAAH END THIS GAME NOW

You think, we should vote him?

Nah, I want to see what's going on with him.

put your money where your mouth is and vote me cowards. when I flip town I'll be out of this, and tbh I welcome it. in the mean time, vote succinct, and if he flips town you can lynch me for the loss if you really feel like it.

pedit: look at torueh's posts

pedit 2: yes I would have voted anyone remotely scummy

[NotMySpamAccount]

impressive. in less than 40 minutes you went from guaranteeing skitter/elbirn as scum to lockscumming me. you're fishing for mislynches if you're scum, and if you're town, then I never want to play with you again, because you're the worst player I've ever seen. lynch me if you want, but don't blame me if you lose a locktown and your easiest scumlynch to nk and escape tonight. when you make a stupid lynch and lose, don't blame me.

[NotMySpamAccount]

let's say for a thought experiment then that I do the "impossible" and flip town. who do you lynch tomorrow? I want this recorded for analysis if you do manage to get the votes to lynch me. I'll assume a failure to answer this hypothetical in your next post is a scumclaim.

[NotMySpamAccount]

well then I guess that's a scumclaim. VOTE: Nimueh

[NotMySpamAccount]

My only regret is that I won't be able to post my mockery of you when I flip town.

[NotMySpamAccount]

My only regret is that I won't be able to post my mockery of you when I flip town.

You wont.

flip town.

I'd like someone to do my mocking for me then, please make sure it's as vicious as possible, I want town!Nim to be ashamed, and scum!Nim to be lynched.

[NotMySpamAccount]

let's say for a thought experiment then that I do the "impossible" and flip town. who do you lynch tomorrow? I want this recorded for analysis if you do manage to get the votes to lynch me. I'll assume a failure to answer this hypothetical in your next post is a scumclaim.

I’ll risk it. In any other setup than this one, I might look at this differently but in this setup, demanding to be lynched, IN ORDER To END A GAME That WOULDN’T END With ONE MORE MISLYNCH And YOU KNOW It.

It only ends for YOU

.

Sorry but this gambit can only work once per game and Flubber already beat you to it. I’ll take my chances because I know I caught you.

It’s a disingenuous question because you know before I realized you blatantly scumclaimed, I was suspecting Elbirn/Skitter, so why feign ignorance here? That won’t happen though, because either the game (hopefully) ends with your lynch or bad town mislynches and lets you escape.

If you're so sure I'm scum, how come the game only "hopefully" ends with my lynch? Why not say it like you mean it?

[NotMySpamAccount]

Spoiler:

Nimueh is FA?

News to me.

*Somewhere Ank is laughing her ass off at this*

this almost feels like a gameo f meta-mafia tryin to figure out if nim is lying about being FA, which would be the best way toconceal her identity if she were FA. idk though, no experience with either of you.

Nimueh is FA?

News to me.

*Somewhere Ank is laughing her ass off at this*

this almost feels like a gameo f meta-mafia tryin to figure out if nim is lying about being FA, which would be the best way toconceal her identity if she were FA. idk though, no experience with either of you.

This line of inquiry is not fruitful, and I'm sorry I suggested who the alt may be, that was out of line. We should all drop this topic.

I honestly don’t have any issues with you at all. I didn’t realize that you thought I was someone you had prior issues with and now that I know it wasn’t me, I’m cool about it.

can you pls vote succinct to end this nightmare?

toeuhfehs (not even gonna try to spell it) gave a good enough reason. Mafia is supposed to be fun, and this game has been the opposite.

It needs to end, and if scum win, they win.

How is this ever a town post?

What townie ever says,

“It needs to end, and if scum win, they win”?

In the meantime, please humour me by answering this question. I’ll wait.

this townie. I'm sick of your bs play. I want this game to end as quickly as possible. preferably with your lynch tomorrow.

[NotMySpamAccount]

let's say for a thought experiment then that I do the "impossible" and flip town. who do you lynch tomorrow? I want this recorded for analysis if you do manage to get the votes to lynch me. I'll assume a failure to answer this hypothetical in your next post is a scumclaim.

I’ll risk it. In any other setup than this one, I might look at this differently but in this setup, demanding to be lynched, IN ORDER To END A GAME That WOULDN’T END With ONE MORE MISLYNCH And YOU KNOW It.

It only ends for YOU

.

Sorry but this gambit can only work once per game and Flubber already beat you to it. I’ll take my chances because I know I caught you.

It’s a disingenuous question because you know before I realized you blatantly scumclaimed, I was suspecting Elbirn/Skitter, so why feign ignorance here? That won’t happen though, because either the game (hopefully) ends with your lynch or bad town mislynches and lets you escape.

If you're so sure I'm scum, how come the game only "hopefully" ends with my lynch? Why not say it like you mean it?

By “hopefully”, I mean SPECIFICALLY your lynch. I do 100% mean it but I can’t control that. I do know town will win, with your lynch but I obviously don’t know that will happen.

oh ok, hopefully referred to my lynch rather than game ned

[NotMySpamAccount]

I'll admit I played bad, but I'm almost always pretty scummy even as town. I still don't get how I managed to scumclaim without posting, since your read chaneged without me doing so.

pedit: that's what I thought you meant

[NotMySpamAccount]

I'll admit I played bad, but I'm almost always pretty scummy even as town. I still don't get how I managed to scumclaim without posting, since your read chaneged without me doing so.

pedit: that's what I thought you meant

When Flubber made that fake IC claim, everyone said, if he’s lying, we lynch him tomorrow but as you know, there was no tomorrow, because he escaped.

Town never calls for the game to end, because “it’s a nightmare” and considers it okay,

if scum wins

. Particularly in THIS setup. Creature wasn’t even voting you att you made that post, so why the extreme overreaction if you’re town? And yes, I’ve witnessed scum, say “vote me” as a gambit but it was so over the top. Both Succinct and Elbirn had votes on them and you had NONE but neither of them reacted that way.

guess which town just called for the game to end because it's a nightmare etc.

[NotMySpamAccount]

mafia is supposed to be fun. this game was not, in large part because of you, Nim. please lynch me. I'll even keep up the pattern and self-hammer if you guys get me to L-1.

[NotMySpamAccount]

None of what you quoted was a scunslip, nim

Please dont go back to SR'ing skitter shes being obvtown

Theres tons of resistance to succinct wagon (see: the elbirn counterwagon)

Nmsa is lynch bait

Nmsa dont self hammer its ducking abhorrent, that's right, ducking abhorrent because fuck spellcheck

Work time bye

good enough for me, VOTE: succinct, let's get a lynch

[NotMySpamAccount]

skipping past the multiple pages of nimueh posts that i'm not reading, fi there's something important in there lmk

nothing inportant besides nim screaming that I'm scum because I wanted this nightmare game to end

[NotMySpamAccount]

skipping past the multiple pages of nimueh posts that i'm not reading, fi there's something important in there lmk

nothing inportant besides nim screaming that I'm scum because I wanted this nightmare game to end

If you really wanted out of the game that badly, you’d just replace out, wouldn’t you?

Normally yes, but under the circumstances I don't want to force someone to read 170 pages of garbage while defending themselves from stupid arguments like yours.

[NotMySpamAccount]

I have a bad feeling that we’re going to lose this game because of Ank replace out, because no one will listen to me or Creature.

no, if we lose, it'll be because nobody listened to anybody, and we compromise near deadline on mislynches.

[NotMySpamAccount]

Why do i again feel like it'll be impossible to get 6 votes on succinct for no discernable reason?

@chara @tris why exactly are neither of u voting succinct rn?

idk, the resistance to it feels kinda weird. also happy scumday!

[NotMySpamAccount]

skipping past the multiple pages of nimueh posts that i'm not reading, fi there's something important in there lmk

nothing inportant besides nim screaming that I'm scum because I wanted this nightmare game to end

If you really wanted out of the game that badly, you’d just replace out, wouldn’t you?

Normally yes, but under the circumstances I don't want to force someone to read 170 pages of garbage while defending themselves from stupid arguments like yours.

Because I caught you.

is anyone as certain as nim is that I'm scum? or is the consensus that I'm more likely lynchbait? asking for a friend. who happens to be me.