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Post Post #4725 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:44 pm

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Here's how the game I think is going to go at the moment. Assuming we have nothing groundbreaking and we assume 4 scum:

1) We lynch Mastina and she flips town. I would probably be next on the chopping block given I'm a vanilla townie and have nothing to really prove my innocence besides my play, but even people think that's somewhat scummy. After that it'd be a 6p and we'd hopefully kill A50

2) We lynch Mastina and she flips scum. The next likely lynch would be C&Y or Joan/A50 we'd be able to lock a few people out of even being scum and have clears along the way. The game would basically be solved.
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Post Post #4726 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:44 pm

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In post 4724, mastina wrote:
In post 4720, Elena Fisher wrote:Pedit: mastina can you do me a favor and take a step back from the computer for 10-20 minutes then come back? I'll happily explain to you after that.
(bleeped because bleep the mod) that.

I. am. being. (bleeped because bleep the mod). lynched.

YOU ARE PART OF THE (bleeped because bleep the mod) LYNCH.

You want me to (bleeped because bleep the mod) calm down?

THEN (bleeped because bleep the mod) UNVOTE ME.
Need I remind you, Pink Ball promised to hammer me when I got to L-1?

So me being at L-2 now.

IS EFFECTIVELY ME AT (bleeped because bleep the mod) L-1.
LYNCH, MINUS ONE VOTE.

Don't (bleeped because bleep the mod) forget that, and Pink Ball absolutely WILL jump on at the first available hammer opportunity.
Don't delude yourself into (bleeped because bleep the mod) thinking otherwise.
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Post Post #4727 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:45 pm

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In post 4724, mastina wrote:
In post 4720, Elena Fisher wrote:Pedit: mastina can you do me a favor and take a step back from the computer for 10-20 minutes then come back? I'll happily explain to you after that.
(bleeped because bleep the mod) that.

I. am. being. (bleeped because bleep the mod). lynched.

YOU ARE PART OF THE (bleeped because bleep the mod) LYNCH.

You want me to (bleeped because bleep the mod) calm down?

THEN (bleeped because bleep the mod) UNVOTE ME.
If I unvote you will you do as I just requested?
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Post Post #4728 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:46 pm

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In post 4725, Elena Fisher wrote:1) We lynch Mastina and she flips town. I would probably be next on the chopping block given I'm a vanilla townie and have nothing to really prove my innocence besides my play, but even people think that's somewhat scummy. After that it'd be a 6p and we'd hopefully kill A50
And how, pray tell, do you obtain that gamestate?

By praying Chito and Yuuri isn't (bleeped because bleep the mod) lynched?

Good luck with that.
In post 4725, Elena Fisher wrote:2) We lynch Mastina and she flips scum. The next likely lynch would be C&Y or Joan/A50 we'd be able to lock a few people out of even being scum and have clears along the way. The game would basically be solved.
And yet you fail to follow that to the (bleeped because bleep the mod) conclusion.

I don't have (bleeped because bleep the mod) viable scumbuddies.

So HOW, precisely, is the game (bleeped because bleep the mod) solved?

It's (bleeped because bleep the mod) not.
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Post Post #4729 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:46 pm

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In post 4727, Elena Fisher wrote:If I unvote you will you do as I just requested?
Leave for half an hour?

GLADLY.
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Post Post #4730 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:47 pm

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UNVOTE:
Cya in 30 then.
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Post Post #4731 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:48 pm

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no matter how many times you say otherwise, chito/you is perfectly viable
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Post Post #4732 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:48 pm

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Also.

People keep saying that empty (bleeped because bleep the mod) logic of.
"If we lynch mastina, it breaks the game open".

Why do they (bleeped because bleep the mod) apply that logic to me.

And not think about the effect on other players?

What an Elena lynch does; what a Near x Mello lynch does; what an Almost50 lynch does.
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Post Post #4733 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:48 pm

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In post 4730, Elena Fisher wrote:UNVOTE:
Cya in 30 then.
KK last post, you ninja'd me. <3
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Post Post #4734 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:51 pm

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In post 4728, mastina wrote:And how, pray tell, do you obtain that gamestate?

By praying Chito and Yuuri isn't (bleeped because bleep the mod) lynched?

Good luck with that.
Chito and Yuuri wouldn't be an awful alternative but it wouldn't be the first choice.
In post 4728, mastina wrote:And yet you fail to follow that to the (bleeped because bleep the mod) conclusion.

I don't have (bleeped because bleep the mod) viable scumbuddies.

So HOW, precisely, is the game (bleeped because bleep the mod) solved?

It's (bleeped because bleep the mod) not.
I feel this isn't that good an argument because you don't know the roles of the mafia along with what has been talked about. Good partners always have a way to distance so they don't look like good teammates. Sometimes you make bad plays just to hide that fact. It's really not that good an argument You can make it more unlikely yes, but impossible? No. If you want to go through each player and tell me why it's impossible. I'll read it
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Post Post #4735 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:52 pm

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I will always question if making myself a VT to clear pink ball was the correct play. I was probably getting lynched if I didn't do that, but still it was rather boring
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Post Post #4736 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:52 pm

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Chito: lol wisdom when did you start scumreading me?
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Post Post #4737 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:53 pm

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when i figured elena was town
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Post Post #4738 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:56 pm

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Chito: Why is Elena town?
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Post Post #4739 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:57 pm

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because read the game
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Post Post #4740 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:58 pm

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Chito: I'm still v/la thru sunday, yuuri has some life stuff come up so sorry, guess I need to say
v/la


Pedit: what specifically has made you shift your read of her?
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Post Post #4741 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:00 pm

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mastina elena interactions and her result
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Post Post #4742 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:05 pm

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Chito: you are townreading her for saying pb is mech cleared? What specific mastina interactions?
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Post Post #4743 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:07 pm

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chito dont tire yourself

either tell me why elena is still scum with mastina or accept defeat
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Post Post #4744 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:09 pm

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Chito: remind me how many people she cleared in children of hurin again? You flipping your read of me because elena claimed a protown mechanical result certainly is interesting
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Post Post #4745 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:10 pm

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why isnt she pushing almost if shes scum with mastina?
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Post Post #4746 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:10 pm

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Chito: I literally just said I'm out of town and asked you to explain what made you flip your top read lol

Yeah Joan has a point about you.
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Post Post #4747 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:12 pm

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and elena was just what triggered the realization but hardly the actual reason

you never wanting mastina and trying to make me doubt my gamma, almost, dunn, and even joan reads is more like it
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Post Post #4748 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:13 pm

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In post 4744, Chito and Yuuri wrote:Chito: remind me how many people she cleared in children of hurin again?
This is a really bad argument because each game is different. Trying to compare the 2 is just bad. I'm trapped scum if I am scum right now. Because I have openly said I'm a vanilla town
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Post Post #4749 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:18 pm

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HOLY (bleeped because bleep the mod) (bleeped because bleep the mod).

I just realized the EXACT flavor reason for Almost50 being bulletproof.

I can't post it until 10:18 (which is exactly 30 minutes from my last post), but I know EXACTLY what allowed him to kill Dunnstral.

And yes.

It was a one-shot ability, more specifically.

Do you know how I figured it out?

Simple.

At the end of the first part of Sword Art Online, where Kirito is confronting the first Big Bad.

The big bad
kills Kirito
.

But after having been killed.

Kirito refuses to die, and self-revives
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I'm referring to this instance (spoilers abound).
The scene, to be even more specific, is from here:
Spoiler: ACTUAL SPOILERS
Too lazy to watch the whole thing, skip to the 3:30 mark in the video, it starts there.

Kirito literally dies.
But goes, "No. Not yet", essentially.
And comes back from the dead.

THIS IS HOW THE SCUM WERE ABLE TO KILL DUNNSTRAL AND LIVE.


Because Kirito literally broke the rules of the game in order to win.

And that makes
absolute sense
as having a scum ability.

You know FURTHER why Almost50 is scum?

Because he has claimed generic bull(bleeped because bleep the mod) as his claimed night unlocks--nothing concrete, allowing him a level of plausible deniability.

Do you want me to detail this further?

Because this is pretty (bleeped because bleep the mod) definitive proof of concept.

That Almost50 is the scum who killed Dunnstral.

And FURTHERMORE.
Kirito makes sense as flavor for having insight into all the neighborhoods, an ability Almost50 claimed he had more or less and yet retracted when he said he didn't have Channel 48 access in spite of there being definitive proof he knew what was going on there. (Do I need to literally walk you through this by pointing out Dunnstral's posts on the subject, or can I trust you to have the (bleeped because bleep the mod) intelligence to remember that detail?)

Because Kirito shows consistent knowledge of the virtual world.
He was a "Beater" in Sword Art Online, a beta tester.
He was entrusted with the seed of Sword Art Online, which he released to the public (more or less). He was given executive, administrative powers over the system.
And he was in every plot-relevant game, including knowing about the pod-players (I forget what their in-universe term was, but fulldivers who were in the game always because they had no choice).

Almost50's flavor being (bleeped because bleep the mod) Kirito makes him a literally (bleeped because bleep the mod) picture-perfect fit as being the cause for these things.

And I've got ten minutes left on my self-imposed exile.

Even if my girlfriend is home now which might mean I need to break from them for a few minutes to post this.

Breaking my (bleeped because bleep the mod) holy rule of girlfriend > mafia.

For something this (bleeped because bleep the mod) important.

I'm (bleeped because bleep the mod) doing it.

(bleeped because bleep the mod), I'd be posting it right now and breaking my 30-minute promise, too, if I didn't want to prove that yes I (bleeped because bleep the mod) uphold my (bleeped because bleep the mod) promises.

I could even get away with it, too. Elena originally asked for 20 minutes; it's been that long.

But I digress; I'm typing to pad out time at this point which risks losing my message.

The tl;dr:
Read this analysis (spoilers abound).
And/or watch
Spoiler: this video (ACTUAL SPOILERS)
From the 3:30 mark in the video to the end.

And you'll know EXACTLY why Almost50 is scum.

I am absolutely 100% (bleeped because bleep the mod) right here.
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