Mini 2063 - Rapier Upick Shuffle [Game Over]

[Alonzo]

VOTE: Guilty Lion


Enormous case to follow

[Alonzo]

Do it

[Alonzo]

Signed up before I realised you needed alts to hide your shame.

[Alonzo]

It's about ctrl

[Alonzo]

Do it

I think eddie is a great player and a huge asset if town

I don't like you goading him to replace out, why would you do that?

My first game outside the newbie queue Eddie spent a month telling me what a fucktard I am (literally most of the time) turned the entire game septic.

Seems his intent is to do the same here..


So yeah.... Asset

[Alonzo]

Also...

My rvs vote is now actual. GL looking to instigate.

[Alonzo]

Hey, how'about we move beyond all that garbage and try to have fun in this game without making things personal?

Also, I can't see images while at work, so please don't rely on content relayed through images.

I'm happy to clear the slate

[Alonzo]

VOTE: implosion

[Alonzo]

VOTE: GLion

[Alonzo]

My rvs vote is now actual

has a scummier sequence of six words ever been uttered than this?

Sure, for example:

a scummier sequence of six words

(but jokes aside I don't think this is a scummy enough post from Implo to warrant 3 votes)

VOTE: Implosion

This combo mainly

[Alonzo]

VOTE: Alonzo

Yikes!

This votes a bit cheesy

[Alonzo]

Hi lovebird

[Alonzo]

VOTE: Alonzo

Yikes!

This votes a bit cheesy

And you're scum

Smiley's and implo's trs of me from one vote don't make sense

I kinda got town from this little back and forth.

[Alonzo]

Is it me you're looking for?

[Alonzo]

Hopefully one of the RCs will be town.

[Alonzo]

Hopefully one of the RCs will be town.

both of us are

Hence why you ranked him one place above jonny English incase there was any doubt...

[Alonzo]

the head you've been talking to and the one that made the reads list aren't the same

if it helps I butcher grammar and spelling a lot more often than I usually do on purpose when I'm on this account

Either way, why is RC null?

[Alonzo]

Hydras, my favorite

What are you then? An alt?

[Alonzo]

Gratz. Have we played before?

[Alonzo]

Anyone remember why guilty voted Fractured?

[Alonzo]

Guilty Lion usually has quite well elaborated pushed from my experience, quite the opposite to whatever this is.

This is so softly softly it's stalling...

[Alonzo]

Parm what's your current read on Alonzo?

99 Alonzo pulls a thin justification for his RVS vote on GL
105 Either a 'OMG HES PRESSURING ME' or just trying to create a wagon
117 and 120 bad, the scum would be mbaki in this line of thinking not GL
243 was maybe a good point but also maybe nitpicking trying to look for fault in otherwise fine play, especially considering Reality Check is a hydra
255 renewing the thin justification for GL vote
258 is the worst kind of meta read
83 87 89 97 100 148 180 227 238 250 252 are all filler posts.

Damn, maybe he is scum. I had the impression from the filler posts that he was just being kind of frivolous but he's actually been pretty insistent on pushing GL for dubious reasons. 105 pushes one of my harder TRs (evidence? I can do closer reading, it's all mostly gut from one reading).

Wouldn't scum me just sheep around 206?

[Alonzo]

True.

Seems most ignored it.

[Alonzo]

VOTE: Lovebird

What is going on with the biiird

[Alonzo]

I call it baiting...

Real talk tho, LB was a big time towny in bus drivers

[Alonzo]

I call it baiting...

Real talk tho, LB was a big time towny in bus drivers

You don't know how meta works and seem to be using bad meta for pushes, as you've done with LB and GL so far. Do you actually think that someone leading town in one game means that they're scum when they're quieter, or someone tending to make elaborate pushes as town means they're scum when they aren't doing so in the first 10 pages?

Yes no maybe no dunno.

At this point I'm sincerely wondering why someone so capable is being so resistant..

[Alonzo]

Not sure if it's activity overview bias, not feeling much love for the bottom three activity wise just now

[Alonzo]

I don't have previous with Fractured, but lovebird volx/Auro should be giving more

[Alonzo]

ugh its 9 PM, i have appointment at 8 tomorrow, i havent showered yet...



first-impressions before i go

Implo, Reality, MS, Brig

have given me some townvibes.

RC/Vars

give me townpings but I want to look more at them first.

need to read

GL, Alonzo, RC, mbaki and Parm

more

UNVOTE:

I'm going to speak with

Enter

tomorrow about reads so we can be a tad more cohesive, and look deeper at what I've skimmed

p-edit

oh cool, something to help me read and evaluate later

would love some explanations and verbal replies

mbaki

If this slot turn up without their homework...

Tsk tak

[Alonzo]

Who should I be voting and why?
And I got the rapier that has no blade, so I can't vote.

So this was a joke then?

I went through your games earlier when I couldn't post and in the 5 games I looked at you RVS voted in all 5.

Ha!

[Alonzo]

Wrong post!

Ha! @rc

Hmmm at parma

[Alonzo]

Alonzo acting like Lovebird was a power player who is underperforming this game is amusing

Do I detect a tuned up sense of irony here..

Lovebird was playing fantastic as town in the last one.
I'm not saying they are the finished article.

[Alonzo]

I got twenty minutes

[Alonzo]

Yes they are a decent towny in the making and I nibbled at the green shoots of their blossom FTW.

That said what I said in that game still stands, my voting them there '*' changed things, and they wilted there and have not bloomed in this game.

Pedit. They were far and away best townie at the point I joined.

[Alonzo]

Umm...

I nibbled at the green shoots of their blossom

Ha shut up you weirdo! You did it to me once!

[Alonzo]

Nibbling metaphor aside, the point stands.

If LB is town they are capable of demonstrating it quite naturally weather or not they posses the wherewithal to understand they are doing it. Just seems like they suffer confidence issues when it comes to taking flak.

[Alonzo]

Hahaha!
Careful this one's a biter

[Alonzo]

Lovebirds hit and run was scripted and fake.

Almost certainly in the scumchat

[Alonzo]

A lot of people are voteparking or jumping around without any resolution to their reads.... assuming they have them.

Yeah, on my occasional visit to the thread I noticed this. Like nearly 30 pages and no real wagons being pushed.
Hence the questions to people to back up with their thought processes, and give me something to evaluate.

So you have a dozen posts and that's our fault somehow?

[Alonzo]

Barely

RCs push/suspicion of me came out of nowhere and is yet unclarified despite him having plenty of games with me to build a meta based case.

Eddie is policy an transparent

Parma is unfounded, not backed up

LB is seeping RC

Are there more?

[Alonzo]

We know parma is reading other people, so why maintain the unfounded stuff and come up with something more concrete on me?

Pedit. That was my gut reaction to lovebirds posts, and the two or three select moment they chose to find suspicious in 15 pages

[Alonzo]

Seems weird to think lovebird posts seems scripted....they are pretty bland posts when I read them. What posts specifically gave you the gut feeling that it was a scripted?

The posts themselves were nothing. The target selection didn't feel genuine at all.

[Alonzo]

Who do you have opinions on?

[Alonzo]

I'd love to hear what you gotta say about Alonzo while youre spewing
@implosion

[Alonzo]

Sure

[Alonzo]

I think it's Varsoon and Parmigiano, +1. Probably Alonzo.

Cheers.

Are you mugging me off?

[Alonzo]

Muppet

[Alonzo]

VOTE: Alonzo[/vote
]This is good.

This failure of a vote is tragic.

Where's RCo?

can I summon you by voting today?

[Alonzo]

He would actually have to be voting me...

[Alonzo]

You want to kill a man you look him in the eye.

I question your integrity sir.

[Alonzo]

He doesn't have one

[Alonzo]

If you've got time to like Johnny you've got time to case me no?

[Alonzo]

OK it's true I'm pushing lovebird because of how dangerous they are to me and my scum mates...

Y'all too clever for me.

[Alonzo]

We know parma is reading other people, so why maintain the unfounded stuff and come up with something more concrete on me?

Pedit. That was my gut reaction to lovebirds posts, and the two or three select moment they chose to find suspicious in 15 pages

This Pedit here

[Alonzo]

Still prefer parmigiana vote but I suppose I support Alonzo wagon

In good faith?

[Alonzo]

VOTE: parmigiana

[Alonzo]

Parry Mbaki

thrust mbaki

[Alonzo]

@Radiant - 467 and 468 don't really strike me as posts that scum would make

generally both he and Alonzo feel like D1 lynchbait

I might still come around on Parm but I wanna see more of who jumps on that wagon first

Thing is despite the effort to read me, his conclusions are poor, and he skipped straight over the most alignment indicative post I made (or rather didn't mention it because the meaning could be interpreted as either alignment.
Hasn't adjusted his read to anything I have done since, and hasn't looked at my larger meta)

Maybe it will change, but rn parm just looks agenda driven

[Alonzo]

Sure

VOTE: mbaki

[Alonzo]

Parry Mbaki

thrust mbaki

Why did you perform your parry on mbaki, and not Parmigiano who you claim to be "scumreading", and also voting you?


Need more votes on Alonzo. implosion, Brigitte, want to do the honours?

Cheers.

Jog on.

[Alonzo]

@Radiant - 467 and 468 don't really strike me as posts that scum would make

generally both he and Alonzo feel like D1 lynchbait

I might still come around on Parm but I wanna see more of who jumps on that wagon first

Thing is despite the effort to read me, his conclusions are poor, and he skipped straight over the most alignment indicative post I made (or rather didn't mention it because the meaning could be interpreted as either alignment.
Hasn't adjusted his read to anything I have done since, and hasn't looked at my larger meta)

Maybe it will change, but rn parm just looks agenda driven

What you've done since also feels scummy. I read meta when it feels useful, I don't meta everyone I vote.

If you want to help you could link a scum game you're proud of.

My scum game is pretty basic, I sheep shit townies with shit reads. I'm not proud of myself.

That's why I cast a suspicious eye at those lining up behind you...

[Alonzo]

Would it help more if I provided instances of mainly shit posting on day one and still hitting scum?

Iv a few of those... And who wouldn't be proud?

[Alonzo]

Maybe as a treat il throw in the game where GL ruthlessly tvt'd me and it will explain much of the early game stuff vs GL too..

Seems like this is what you need to open your mind, I fear exposing you to my scum games is just gonna make you tilt on me more so than presently

[Alonzo]

It's still implosion, folks.

Because...

[Alonzo]

Can't a dude just feel good about a read?
Like damn
I could make a whole case but it'd be contrived
I got the good feels
I don't need to justify that shit
You have eyes
Look at Implosion's play
Decide for yourself
Don't rely on some other fucker to do all the work for you
C'mon

Don't get me wrong, I feel it too but am having trouble articulating it.

[Alonzo]

VOTE: parm

[Alonzo]

My scum game is pretty basic, I sheep shit townies with shit reads. I'm not proud of myself. That's why I cast a suspicious eye at those lining up behind you...

This seems like it is trying to disprove Alonzo being scum but really makes me think this is what he doing here with his reads.

#NotHelpingYourCase

It's good that you acknowledge you believe my meta case to be truthful, in time you will see I'm a trustworthy guy.

#psyoujustcalledRCashittowny

[Alonzo]

If I was shit sheeping RC rest assured he would have mentioned it..

[Alonzo]

Meaning RC has v good knowledge of my meta from joining the site til present.

[Alonzo]

Is he?
He never told me.
What about you?

[Alonzo]

Sure he thought I could have been open wolfing with parma and GL, but that was some time ago

Pedit

Meh, he won't try that sort of thing til L1 if he even does, as he won't want the accountability, if hes even seriously considering me an option.

I'd consider any such hostilities a tell.

[Alonzo]

I'd like the players who are defending Alonzo or are against his wagon to explain why, please.


I think he is currently anti-town at best and scum at worst.

As much as I'd hate for the day to end prematurely, I also believe that some flips are necessary to move the game forward. I'll give this a little around 12 or 24 hours or so, before making a final decision.

For those who are backing Alonzo, make your cases or forever hold your peace.

Cheers.

For anyone sheeping rubberjonny with out him so much as stringing quotes together as to why I'm flipping scum today, there can be no peace.

[Alonzo]

This game has a fuck ton of scummy slots

So vote one

[Alonzo]

Michael Scott is in everyones bottom half right?

[Alonzo]

Michael Scott is in everyones bottom half right?

Half of people have barely mentioned him and he’s my and gls bottom one, from what I can tell

This means maybe we should lynch them

What reason would you give?

[Alonzo]

Spoiler:

oh alonzo repped in fucks sakes, i might just sub

Do it

why would you sub in to a game with me already in it when you know i dont want to play with you? thats just a dick move

mm

VOTE: Alonzo

I think I'll just stay in the game and vote park here until one of us dies.

he's terrible at mafia and also a shitty person from what I've seen (not saying he's a bad dude irl, but in terms of mafia). if you are only one of those then thats workable, but both is too much. so i don't reaaally think its AI for him to post 83.

also, i tr 92, reality check is scummy, varsoon and implosion mildly townie

Alonzo is the player there I would like to lynch on principle, but GL is scummier

VOTE: Alonzo

VOTE: Alonzo

I will say despite their low charisma playstyle, Lovebird generally had >rand reads from what I remember

Bird, what do you think of Fractured?

VOTE: Alonzo

GL i want to know your confidence in your scumread on me

in an objective sense it's fairly weak

but relative to most of the other players it's significant, at this point i don't really see a world where you work your way into my townbloc at the expense of somebody else without flips

do you agree with the assessment that you've been around this whole game so far but haven't really done anything to shape it? like I don't have a sense at all of who you actually townread or scumread

I have shaped it in the sense I've actively influenced thread direction. I don't actually have strong reads, or I would be casing them. I do think its actually indicative of my town game that I don't, I fake reads as scum more often than I'd just say "I don't really have any reads". Granted, I fake reads as town too, such as faking faking townreading RC for my bored bad gambit. I've voted my strongest scum reads but they still aren't all that strong.

Maybe I'm a super OP role trying to not get night killed :O /crumb??? Or maybe I'm a super bad role trying to get night killed by saying that :O /crumb???

But I don't see you pushing my lynch despite claiming a scum read on me which isn't awful. I still want Alonzo today.

Can you vote Alonzo to compensate for the parry

somebody lynch somebody please

we can forget how scummy Alonzo randomly parrying me is sure sure ok ok

just kidding

VOTE: alonzo

Similar question to mbaki, where we at?

[Alonzo]

Like, just look at that very scummy parry on mbaki.

Are you Eddie canes wet dream or something?

[Alonzo]

Or just a scum buddy?

[Alonzo]

And your first act is to terrorise a fellow English man?

[Alonzo]

It was at this moment, Varsoon..

Knew he was fucked

[Alonzo]

Can you point out people with genuinely solvey isos plz?

[Alonzo]

VOTE: creature

Pew Pew

[Alonzo]

Why is it typing when it should be reading?

[Alonzo]

VOTE: Johnny english

[Alonzo]

Cheers

[Alonzo]

VOTE: Lovebird

[Alonzo]

VOTE: creature

Pew Pew

Why is it typing when it should be reading?

VOTE: Johnny english

Cheers

VOTE: Lovebird

Think the complete lack of impetus to gamesolve after a scum flip is scum indicative

These are great votes.

Except now I'm probably gonna side with Eddie that JE would be Op as scum

[Alonzo]

I will concede iv had a busy busy week IRL, have a couple of days now however

[Alonzo]

Help me read implo better?

[Alonzo]

If we can flip LB red, il happily defend my corner tomorrow

[Alonzo]

VOTE: Alonzo

I've been thinking about it and this is where I want to vote.

You're supposed to say pew pew

[Alonzo]

Il have the ploughmans

[Alonzo]

Given how yesterday went down

Intent to claim at L4

[Alonzo]

so atm you think it's alonzo + (mbaki/JE) with some odds of creature/lovebird?

Yes.

Fractured

isn't on the list either.

Why would I put down people who I know the alignment of?

This isn't a PR claim.
implosion is obvtown.

Rofl

Think about what you are saying here... That me and my scum buds strategy was to bus each other relentlessly from the start..

[Alonzo]

A lawn Zoe was u gonna is doing a claims

Derpends, did we lynch Lurvebud yit?

[Alonzo]

A lawn Zoe was u gonna is doing a claims

Derpends, did we lynch Lurvebud yit?

wwwwwwwwwwait.

i have an idea

brigitte self-voted
and she was scum
so why don't u

follow suit

I'm never going to be able to catch up

nothing has happened just talk about d1

it's what everyone else is doing

Why am I scum?

[Alonzo]

Anyone not voting @lovebird..

Why?

[Alonzo]

Town block
RC mbaki GL Alonzo JE.

Can we smoosh lovebird now?

[Alonzo]

Also, I dont think Vars replaces out of a scum slot (now Creat's slot).

Varsoon was replaced because he was banned, so it doesn't indicate anything.

I saw him around the site recently so I didn't believe he was serious about the ban.

From what I skimmed, I have creat+alonzo town .

Can I also get a summary of other relevant events?

Day one mbaki was scatty, has since calmed, a bit.
RC voted Brigitte, Rcheck parried on their behalf.
RC got briggi lynch through, and sure enough, red flip.

Overnight no kill, GL claims doc on RC.

Alonzo continues his stubborn rampage vs lovebird.

Creature joins, hard to sort for me.

Johnny English ain't even English.

[Alonzo]

Fractured, MS, implosion. Possibly a town or two there

[Alonzo]

Parmagianno posts cheese mostly.

I don't know how to sort Real Check, but they were confirmed able to parry on Brigittes behalf.

[Alonzo]

You got one day and one day only to show me who you are
@performer

Some slots have sought to sort me unfairly on occasion, see if we agree who those slots are?

[Alonzo]

Oh wait Johnny is English?!

[Alonzo]

Implosion is in the top three towniest players.

Change my mind.

[Alonzo]

Can we get a VC and prods n such?

[Alonzo]

Maybe Alonzo my arse.

[Alonzo]

man that inflates my ego a lot

i hard derailed the wagon on town!alonzo, then led on two scum consecutively.

I was odds on not to survive this game yet somehow here I am!

GG all.

[Alonzo]

I nibbled the green shoots of their scuminess

[Alonzo]

Lul

[Alonzo]

Now I will say 'he townread me once'
(which meant I could never 100% clear you as town!)

[Alonzo]

I mean you pushed at the right times and also backed off at the right times here so well done

[Alonzo]

I would have confirmed you and GL tonight with my night action, and possibly seen the scum who visited you night one, so there wouldn't have been much to work out if that went through