Non-Reviewed Game [game over]

[Fuscosco]

VOTE: wisdom

for old tines sake

[Fuscosco]

Oc

[Fuscosco]

I'm just snek.

But is this RQS or Softball Question Tine?

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Why all the gamma votes?

Is gamma such a popular player now?

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vote: ausuka

your face is forced

[Fuscosco]

<3 be mine clem


I was sure Ive played with ausuka before, but I guess not :\

[Fuscosco]

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Thats the face Im making when he is asking a question; not about the question, but the style.

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But its a townish sign.

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Sry. Im just chiding.

I should just let the game develop and not shitpost.

[Fuscosco]

this post referenced an ongoing game, so I removed the text of the post.

[Fuscosco]

shit.

[Fuscosco]

hmmmm

[Fuscosco]

Im less interested in your response and more in how demon and ausuka interplayed. But decent response.

[Fuscosco]

Dave is also good. Good dave

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Thought we'd be out of rvs by now. Game is remarkably slow for a large.

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Ausuka Looks town.

Id really prefer not to judge based on some back and forth about weather I intended to purposely lay out a vote or use a homonym . . .

its chatter, and entirely theory based, afaic.

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gamma vote is meh vote.

i like gamma as a person. why gams?

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Look at yellow. iirc it was before they balanced out most mons with varied type moves, like pikachu w/iron tail.

they had to slightly modify the first few areas to make it more friendly, since brock is the first gym.


fire/electric typing sounds awful.

[Fuscosco]

stop. we should focus not on these little jokes but on the game.

Ignore the follow ups to my vote on ausuka. Focus on that. was her vote good? was my response good?

is my vote on light good? Lets all make 2 competing wagons. Mine's better, go!

VOTE: light ganski

[Fuscosco]

Want to over analyses rvs before we even get out of it.

Spoiler:

It'll be here all game.

[Fuscosco]

hehe analyses

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oh hi, i see youve met my ass. fun to ride it?

[Fuscosco]

enh ausuka is an alright wagon. What do you have against progress?

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Like none of that theory nonsense they all spewed matters. The slot is basically just asking about quicktells.

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wait, are scum all WKing gamma

right now? together?

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yes? but, actually not ingame.

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just vote him.

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afaic it's still rvs tryhard

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i ain't gots no reads. just inclinations

[Fuscosco]

its 16 pages of marginal content so far

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All the talk about throry instead of action. we're discussing the finer poiblnts of theory not playing mafia.

I could throw out some formulae to produce a vote, but even in the best of situations I could be voting w/a scum read on d1.

[Fuscosco]

I think that asking anout ausuka was good form, but nai from you.

I also think that the responses were about theory, and thus a ritualized dance that is also mostly nai

[Fuscosco]

yes

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no

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like lmao did you not read my very last few posts?

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VOTE: dt

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like lmao did you not read my very last few posts?

Could you try? An opinion does not have to contain strong town or scum leanings, and attempting to write one, is a good way to discover one.

sure. Ill post tomorrow.

[Fuscosco]

:\ We had one game together, and we both subbed out pretty quickly

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I don't like the way it went off topic. Partly because I have only the most basic of ideas what y'all started talking about.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

dont understand this vote. it was an rvs wagon and she didn tpost anything so why go back?

Gamme was the biggest wagon atp. Odd not to see that and be so astute in the spamming you did before . . .

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Asking someone for how confident they are so early feels like it weakens someone elses push rather than sort out reads

^This. Who has a confident scum read on page 3?

It feels like derailment tactic if anything

If you think this why didn't you say anything before Dunnstral posted?

VOTE: lightganski

Because I hadn't really thought on a deeper level about the connection between the posts until dunn brought it up? Sometimes you don't really think about things until someone points them out

But your defensiveness to the suggestion is pretty suspicious

This isn't about thinking on a deeper level though; it's a very simple concept as far as I can tell. I asked you how confident you were about your read, and by asking you that I was undermining your read on Fuscosco by making you admit you're not confident. Thinking about it deeply should probably lead to the realization that I have no reason to do this because it's already clear you're not all that confident and I was voting Fuscosco myself at the time, not to mention I wouldn't really gain anything by obstructing an early push, even if I was buddies with Fuscosco.

Defensiveness being scummy is a strange concept to me. Why shouldn't I defend myself?

I feel like the wilky/sabrina issue would probably be better resolved privately rather than in the game thread.

ugh. Its just 6 pages into a large. Why are we cramming so much seriousness into it?

But for the record, in rvs its far more beneficial to get reactions than to defend yourself. Doing things like asking questions you think you know the answer to, or plaintext voting a player?

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He meant fucosco's non bold vote

I just realised that... I'm too tired for this

Again though... NAI but at the same time Why???? I feel like it makes fucosco's omgus more suspicious

This is probably the worst post of the game, imo. Just taking it [the gamestate] too seriously.

Speed so that we have less interactions to go off later, or just so you can see how the people now react to the suggestion? Has Dave done something terrible to deserve that

ugh. So its just a personality thing?

Then vote me?

Why? I'm voting fuscosco cos I have reasons to scumread them too.

But you know what? I'm fed up of people using this stupid move to shut down discussion so I'll bite

VOTE: vedith

Balance of probability? Most likely there's one scum on that wagon (and it's vedith)

I guess, but if they are scum, we can get him later. Honestly, you went from 'fed up' to 'he scum'.

[Fuscosco]

Let's kill Light.

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I have no strong opinion of ausuka, but slight TR on Sabrina, partly for being standoffish.

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DT is an a'ight wagon. I'll hang out for now.

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I have no strong opinion of ausuka, but slight TR on Sabrina, partly for being standoffish.

Standoffish?! Wilky literally insulted me and I'm the one being standoffish?!

I know. i know.

[Fuscosco]

scumreading people for "taking the game seriously"

where did i do this?

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Thats not a scumread. atp its a source of irritation. My scumread on light is more to do with the absolutely appalling reasons for jumping onto vedith. That he is looking for easy reasons to vote around is scummy as sin, but
I prefer not to use my own wagoneers to scumhunt in D1.

[Fuscosco]

poke received. at work rn

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Sabrinas tone comes off extremely genuine to me and it's baffling anyone can suspect that slot. Why are we voting Enigma again? I just joined to make wagons look good, but it seems people are srsly suspecting this slot so I might as well find out why.

hmmm, they haven't done content yet. i wont say id never TR a player based solely on tude and tone, but I will say its not stupid town. do you have experience with their main to verify this?

[Fuscosco]

ello

[Fuscosco]

gogo gadget survivalism post!

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i have no clue what the hype for enigma is, i havent read up

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also, why elsa?

[Fuscosco]

many discuss, much advance, so content.

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Wait, was I really the only one who noticed that obv soft.

lol wis def saw it. and I kind of expected it to be a half assed frozen reference. Im too manly to see that girly flick, even if my coworkers tell me to :\

[Fuscosco]

I also want to be the first to claim death miller. Sooooo

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lol. The proper play, fyi, is to lylo lynch a death miller. I am not this.

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okay, but i mean ~

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Im not. I said it was a joke.

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self vpters can eat rope that much faster. Darwin Award Nominations gotta Darwin.

[Fuscosco]

Anyway, Dunn I think you Elsa and I will have to discuss this more later on tonight.

[Fuscosco]

ikr it's so soft to the point it might not be real. Or is it?

Its testable, so I mean go figure.

What do you mean by "tonight"?

Literally nothing. maybe,

[Fuscosco]

What part of 'non reviewed' makes you think that a role leans one direction or another?

Or that the role means anything? Watcher is weak sauce this game anyway. I bet we have all kinds of messery.

'he claimed a role in a game without a balance review' is not a reason to keep him alive.

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VOTE: chen sure

[Fuscosco]

This is just your counter-counter wagon, and when you flip scum we'll go after wis, fus, maria, and light as your buddies. :mrrgreen:

[Fuscosco]

No, lets lynch a thing instead of forcing deadline bullshit that lets scum make bad votes and makes town do the same?

[Fuscosco]

Okay, we have claims, lets see those people make good moves with them.


Lets not do this backing off pressure and wagons thing. Please dont drag the day out and really make this hard.

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It just occurred to me that a standard watcher is not the same as a tracker. We do not know which the Enigma meant to claim, if either standard role.

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There are several points within that I feel need clarification here.

[Fuscosco]

Wanna flavor claim?

I ask because Im the Flavor Saver.

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hunh. Legit, I do.

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I kno. I find it interestifying.

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Anywho, lets kill the watcher.


Then roleblock the vig and cop the death miller. kthnx.

[Fuscosco]

But lets kill the watcher.

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Ill be around for deadline.

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I mean its better than nothing but worse than anything else really.

Because all shes done is fluff. I dont support this.

[Fuscosco]

VOTE: No lynch

stop.

[Fuscosco]

Lets go viggie.

Wifom on the table right now, Im the kind of modder who actually has put town rolestoppers in. Normal games, even.

[Fuscosco]

lul

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VOTE: sabrina

Le sigh. i mean, she's no town read, but its a copout lynch

[Fuscosco]

wiz's raads are tight, and i didnt aee any cursory issue with anks.

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why does scum crumb vig under no pressure

ya no, I disagree here. because who anyone claims under no pressure (btw, there was some questioning, it was "pressure").

but we'll see wiz. i dont like the form.

[Fuscosco]

VOTE: light

[yeet]

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we can do it!!!

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plz don't view any non mod/confed claim as instatown in a game adverted as nonreviewed

[Fuscosco]

what? he claimed when there was a wagon on him

he crumbed when there was nothing on him

I dont put stock into it, and I'd prefer not to get too far into it today

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i stopped making those bets when I kept winning . . .

[Fuscosco]

dubs, dt be town

[Fuscosco]

I... Probably should though. But if nobody wants me too I won't.

send it to a TR, but not necessarily your top one.

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pedit: When have I ever said that's the reason I tr her? Because I didn't

Fair enough -- why do you tr her?

Hey, that person who SRed dave, can you explain? Because I wasnt quite sure of my own read on that, but I def think I knew where you were coming from.

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Im used to dave and questions. here though, they didnt lead ANYWHERE.

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they looked like filler-ish, I was gonna wait until tomorrow or something to see if he was just busy.

I respect Dave as a player too much to jump to an early conclusion without talking about it.

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she hasnt come out with anything.

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I think its meta. Im going to not try to guess roles or alignments without a flip

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VOTE: dave

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cmon. Lets not get a deadline extension and lets not make dave's replacement do backflips to stay alive.

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its in my meta,

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Lol.

Youre not a guaranteed lynch, just the later craze.

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yea but i like the tone. lets see where it goes.

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What are you even talking about?

what

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Enter are you ee?

Doesnt matter if he is. Dont ask.

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but while the superficial similarities are the same, he isnt really winded.

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i don't understand how 66 is meant to be forced.

he means theatre. it looks like theatre to him.

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hmmmm

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I mean, I guess reading more than the first 4 pages and an iso of a player who can be mislynched/associated to would be nice . . .

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tell me about ofhrz pls wisdom

if wiz is scum ill get'im.


The claiming is dumb, but not so bad. The wagoning/claiming has been muted thus far.

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lol quote is wrong.

Call me crazzzzy but Id rather leave strong and active players alive if I dont directly scumread them and there are decent alternatives. I thinl daveslot should live for now and face the Night Actions that may come his way.

VOTE: unvote

[Fuscosco]

catch scum

I think we're in a good spot.

*shrugs*

today Im okay with one of our claims. thats what I want.

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players in the game

1. Wisdom
   
2. Elsa Jay
   
3. light_ganski
   
4. Ausuka
   
5. Vedith
   
6. chennisden
   (replacing wilky)
   
   
7. Ankamius
   (replacing Clemency)
   
   
8. StarwingBeauvoi
   
9. Sabrina LeCutie
   
10. ofrhz
    
11. DoubtingThomas
    (replacing demonlord)
    
    
12. Gamma Emerald
    
13. Enigma
    
14. Enter
    (replacing davesaz)
    
    
15. MariaR
    
16. Fuscosco
    
17. Dunnstral

hmmmm Im okay with ....


- chenn
- gamma pressure
- dunn for inactivity of late
- vedi
- light, though lessso as of late
- starwing because i have nothing on them

in fact, I forget why nobody has mentioned them. Did they claim or something?

Sabrina seems hasty
ausuka seems easy
ank might be scum, but i dont know how to tell yet
i ave no opinion or orhz
enigma is vig
and maria doesnt seem scum, and im waiting to see them slip/talk

[Fuscosco]

like we can go anywhere, but does anyone really wanna lynch outside of these? and think theyll get support?

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in fact, I forget why nobody has mentioned them. Did they claim or something?

sooo, starwing?

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I thought about it.

can do a daveslot

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yea but i thought about their level of play, their style, and the results here. its not a good look

[Fuscosco]

I'm a vig-cop. >.<

I send a bullet with a name and alignment on it to a target.

[Fuscosco]

Im actually Zubatman. it's my flavah

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lol stop taking me seriously. Im not claiming

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Not rn, at least

[Fuscosco]

I dint buy all these viggies. mu role is kinda asd

[Fuscosco]

lol stop taking me seriously. Im not claiming

... I recommend Chen proves himself and shoots here then.

Who's with me?

what an unhelpful, anti-town sentiment.


are you advocating a policy vig?

[Fuscosco]

lol. for an unverified FN who can be blocked and roped you sure got spunk

[Fuscosco]

I won't be vigged cuz I'm one of the towniest things this side of the shitpost

[Fuscosco]

Im actually 2 shot rubber-and-youre-glue. go ahead, make my day

[Fuscosco]

I think you and ausuka look worse for this little play you two are putting on.

[Fuscosco]

Is Enter really a ropeadoped?

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Actually, a cop on Ausuka sounds good. OR a vig-cop on her. Either, really.

[Fuscosco]

I honestly think her sidelining this little spat is bad.

[Fuscosco]

well dent pet werds ente me meeth yee denderheed

[Fuscosco]

you ded son?

[Fuscosco]

this actually has a lot of w/w equity lol

no, it doesnt. But we'll see what rolls off the tree tonight?

[Fuscosco]

If it’s a town vig on Ausuka then it could potentially provide a clear so waiting for that

Right youre full of shit because the ideal would be to prot elsa.

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Starwing shot was bad :/

yes, kinda. but not becaus i townread that

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Yea, we have 3 claimed viggies and several ways this could be true.

[Fuscosco]

And not all of them instaclear the vigs

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If it’s a town vig on Ausuka then it could potentially provide a clear so waiting for that

Right youre full of shit because the ideal would be to prot elsa.

why the fuck would i protect elsa?

if elsa dies she is conf!town
if elsa doesn't die she is conf!town

plus scum wouldnt target elsa after my watcher claim without at least wasting a rb or nk on me (and why would they when im lynchbait)

why did you claim rn? were you under threat to?

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This is why we don't [snip] let them live another day.

Mostly.

[Fuscosco]

why did you claim rn?

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yea, i kinda believe you.

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coolio. Liars need to not lie.

[Fuscosco]

think he's better vigged while we rope another

[Fuscosco]

I'm working rn. but id iso dave and thenmwybe enig and lynch the common thread.

my gut says scum is laying low

[Fuscosco]

i hope vedi is the explodey kind or the 3p arsony kind

[Fuscosco]

elsa baby i targeted you.

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lol you'd know ot if you got it. was i rbed?

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shame.

[Fuscosco]

Im actually Zod, leader of the enigmas cult. sonebody out there is superman, and thus my nemesis.

nvm. ill stop now

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Cuz no scumlord or vig in their right mind would waste their shot on a N1 FN

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I believe him. we should let the viggies kill him or something.

lets not waste a rope

[Fuscosco]

oh hi, still at job

[Fuscosco]

some quick water cooler thoughts:

- wiz wasnt on dave until we (ank and i) brought it up. after which he was.
not saying we should lunch him, or even casting serious shade on him, but depending on his other reads Id keep him as a wildcard scumbucket 3per.

- Dave iirc (and I'll check later) didn't associate with anyone too hard, and Enter tried to tie several people to him. Id look at their isos to see who is not like the others in their respective camps.

- roles are weird here, but dont seem to be, so far, out of their respective alignments. no neighborizor scum or rolestopping town.
i think its okay to throw some glances at weird roles.
there also seem to be a lot of JoAT style roles, so I dont expect consistency or too many watcher/trackers.

- Vedith isnt clear yet.
- neither is ofhrz.
I don't think i can advocate their lynches yet though.

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VOTE: ganma

[Fuscosco]

VOTE: gamma

i was mostly humoring people with the role shit. the roles are all wubbly-jubbly and non-normal anyway

[Fuscosco]

Gotta do better than that if you imply they thought she was a copper.

[Fuscosco]

maybe multiballs.

maybe several 3p and scuz?

Maybe scum didnt want to take the risk of any one of our claims being watched/followed/etal?

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I mean, lets iso ausuka?

[Fuscosco]

Gonna be honest, I had ausuka as potential scum, idk why anyone would bullet her even.

[Fuscosco]

I think our scum is hiding in the 'lower posters'. i.e. gamma, vedith, chenn, etc.

[Fuscosco]

and one or so up here.

[Fuscosco]

How are we TRing light again?

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k

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I find him compelling. And its still early. LaL is kind of dumb.

[Fuscosco]

If he is a scumdoc then a vig can easily kill him.

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I mean, is the scumteam gonna have 2 docs?

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Cuz he isnt scum?

I agree with maria here.


P: gdi

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le sigh.

well then it cant be helped.

[Fuscosco]

Town Viggies are slight negatives for town, no?

[Fuscosco]

hey, enigma.

<.<
>.>

Wanna claim?

[Fuscosco]

13 players not voting (Gamma Emerald, Wisdom, MariaR, DoubtingThomas, ofrhz, Vedith, Ankamius, Elsa Jay, chennisden, Enigma, Dunnstral, light_ganski, Fuscosco)

DT
dunn
gamma

ofrhz
chenn
maria


Id prefer you pick from the top, some people are dead set against gamma for

whatever

reason, so . . .

[Fuscosco]

except yes

[Fuscosco]

The point of vig is to hit people who arent likely to be lynched.

This list is bad, and your play here is also bad.

[Fuscosco]

role blork - use "blork [player]" to prevent any of their actions from working; if they attempted to commit any targeting actions, they will receive a result as though they had tracked their target (i.e., they learn who that player visited if anybody)

whats the issue? she would have tracked chenn.

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idgaf about her role, if she claimed she was blorked she would know she got an accurate track.

so unless she is a watcher/tracker of a sort she is full of shit, and hopefully a bullet

[Fuscosco]

id rather just rope chenn than wait for a semi-active to claim for a scumread of mine.

[Fuscosco]

VOTE: chenn

[Fuscosco]

Do you have 3 solid scumreads?

rn we are in a 13:3 setup. you know, wish i had checked sooner.

[Fuscosco]

someone elsa

[Fuscosco]

Or SK?

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=78944

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No, that avatar is light.

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derp. I thought light was the anonymous detective

[Fuscosco]

I mean, i dont need either of you dead right now.

[Fuscosco]

So long as scum keep dying we keep winning. let one scum stand alone against 9.

[Fuscosco]

scum vig is most likely a thing.

I actually dont disagree here. mmmmbut its chen

[Fuscosco]

Shoot chen, wiz is waaay more helpful to town.

stop being oddballish here guys. We got to talk, but what did we learn?

[Fuscosco]

what is disco's role

stayin' alive

[Fuscosco]

ah ah ah ah

Lets kill chen

[Fuscosco]

Well I may as well claim modified hider.

[Fuscosco]

modified

hider

[Fuscosco]

I made it super obvious, but I feel the viggies need some more encouragement to not waste their bullets.

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Except we dont know what alignment that is. Either of them.

[Fuscosco]

Like, can we not try to gamesolve? Im more than willing to, say, leash people, even if by implication. But we are eliminating people from our lynching/vigging pools and we don't even have enough earnest scumreading going around.

I mean, that said we're def on track to win.

[Fuscosco]

yea

[Fuscosco]

Youre putting people into the town pile that havent been vetted.

[Fuscosco]

And you can say 'but they feel town' or 'but they did one thing I asked them to, and because Im XX role i should be listened to', but that doesnt preclude their being scum and either doing something they wanted to do anyway (say block a neighborizor/watcher from targeting you) or that using a role for their greatest benefit and wincon.

[Fuscosco]

I dont think any one of us have solved the game yet.

[Fuscosco]

Yeah I rolestopped Elsa last night

Why did you target her?

Cuz no scumlord or vig in their right mind would waste their shot on a N1 FN

[Fuscosco]

9 out of 10 skittles approve.


what are we waiting for again?

[Fuscosco]

Okay so I know I was targeted by the role blork last night. I targeted Chennisden so I got a result on him but I asked and I can't say it's accurate but I want him to claim his target anyway and afterwards I'll out who the result says.
No I will NOT claim my full role.

This needs to be resolved

pls confirm or deny:

[Fuscosco]

^^^
@chen

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VOTE: enigma

id be lying if i said i wasnt eager to see blood.