Vote intends to draw attentioon, which is townie. Town baits, scum buddies.
Baiting
Explains enough to keep attention on target
Aggressive and the opposite of buddying.
Again, the opposite of buddying
Developing reads and reacting to play
More of the same
Looking for specific answers from specific people in an attempt to sort them.
In post 186, Parmigiano Reggiano wrote:Not entirely sure
120 is entirely honest, implo made one post between Smiley's saying he didn't have enough to scumread implo and voting implo.
Smiley, did you scumread Implo more based on
113? Why if so
Trying to develop reads
Read flip is not necessarily called for but he makes it anyways because he's uninformed and wants to find scum.
In post 362, Parmigiano Reggiano wrote: In post 360, GuiltyLion wrote:not really interested in the Brigitte/Reality Check/Radiant discussion except to affirm that I buy both of Brigitte's/Reality Check's claims regarding eachother and have them both as town
I don't like! Why let them off the hook like this? If they're scum, they've bought themselves a very easy townread. But more than that, if they're scum and you're town, what could convince you to vacate that townread? Their play later on? This statement of yours bothers me
Questioning conftowns that aren't mechanically confirmed or confirmed based off play on day 1 is pretty solid, IMO.
More asking questions developing reads.
In post 371, Parmigiano Reggiano wrote:
I'll do a closer read with ISO of you three but the impression I got was that other RC was heavily against a Brigitte train.
Paying attention and keeping track of other players and how they're related shows investment in the game and desire to find out who's going where.
In post 462, Parmigiano Reggiano wrote:Think Varsoon might be scum.
Think Implo is almost definitely town.
Smiley seems town still, so does RC.
GL is scum.
VOTE: GuiltyLion
Brigitte is scum too I think.
This is not my main's playstyle, no. My main doesn't play on mobile at work.
Reads are developing and changing over time.
In post 467, Parmigiano Reggiano wrote:
99 Alonzo pulls a thin justification for his RVS vote on GL
105 Either a 'OMG HES PRESSURING ME' or just trying to create a wagon
117 and
120 bad, the scum would be mbaki in this line of thinking not GL
243 was maybe a good point but also maybe nitpicking trying to look for fault in otherwise fine play, especially considering Reality Check is a hydra
255 renewing the thin justification for GL vote
258 is the worst kind of meta read
83 87 89 97 100 148 180 227 238 250 252 are all filler posts.
Damn, maybe he is scum. I had the impression from the filler posts that he was just being kind of frivolous but he's actually been pretty insistent on pushing GL for dubious reasons.
105 pushes one of my harder TRs (evidence? I can do closer reading, it's all mostly gut from one reading).
Evolution of a read. Applying thought, learning as the game moves.
Again, adjusting to the game.
In post 469, Parmigiano Reggiano wrote:Also Varsoon I just read your ISO and I retract my lackluster/no push. But not being able to vote would be a pretty severe handicap for a town role.
I totally agree. Just played a game where the scum role was the one that lost the ability to vote (which Varsoon had, hence quoting "Deja Vu" at him).
In post 483, Parmigiano Reggiano wrote: In post 481, Alonzo wrote:I call it baiting...
Real talk tho, LB was a big time towny in bus drivers
You don't know how meta works and seem to be using bad meta for pushes, as you've done with LB and GL so far. Do you actually think that someone leading town in one game means that they're scum when they're quieter, or someone tending to make elaborate pushes as town means they're scum when they aren't doing so in the first 10 pages?
In post 785, Parmigiano Reggiano wrote: In post 716, Alonzo wrote:We know parma is reading other people, so why maintain the unfounded stuff and come up with something more concrete on me?
It's funny that you say this when I went through your entire ISO in
467, and you even responded to it. In fact yours is the only ISO I've actually deep dived so far.
Still haven't done my homework on Brigitte/Reality, mostly because I agree that they're probably town.
I also like Johnny English. Advancing the game at a point where scum could potentially wait around for a last minute lynch.
3 am phoneposting at work lmao. Quote is messing with my vote tag so I'll revote in a separate post if need be.
@Varsoon why do you think Implosion is scum?
More advancement of his reads, notice the read flip on Brigitte/RealityCheck - town now, where he was pushing them to at least be questioned before.
In post 841, Parmigiano Reggiano wrote: In post 833, Alonzo wrote: In post 829, GuiltyLion wrote:@Radiant -
467 and
468 don't really strike me as posts that scum would make
generally both he and Alonzo feel like D1 lynchbait
I might still come around on Parm but I wanna see more of who jumps on that wagon first
Thing is despite the effort to read me, his conclusions are poor, and he skipped straight over the most alignment indicative post I made (or rather didn't mention it because the meaning could be interpreted as either alignment.
Hasn't adjusted his read to anything I have done since, and hasn't looked at my larger meta)
Maybe it will change, but rn parm just looks agenda driven
What you've done since also feels scummy. I read meta when it feels useful, I don't meta everyone I vote.
If you want to help you could link a scum game you're proud of.
Working to develop a read on Alonzo, instead of just scumreading him and pushing back, which would be easy considering the number of players scumreading Alonzo.
In post 860, Parmigiano Reggiano wrote: In post 851, RadiantCowbells wrote:Does anyone townread parmigiano
Can they explain why
Parmigiana how do you feel about my push on you?
I think it probably comes from a town PoV. I doubt that the suspicion is contrived, you have a lot of it from many posts. And people seem to be ignoring it, which if I were pushing a vote would make town!me even more insistent on it, and might make scum!me back off.
Btw re:
397 I think it would be hard to defend the side of Alonzo actually believing his GL scumread.
99 implies that GL's
92 is scum indicative, how could that possibly be a real opinion? Then he switches from GL to Implo then back to GL, saying in
120 that mbaki's waffling made him think Implo was town. Which would implicate mbaki, yet he goes back to voting GL. Feels like he just picked someone to tag his vote on.
How does this idea implicate GL, rather than Alonzo? I'm implying that Alonzo was using an unwavering GL scumread as an excuse not to participate in gamesolving, and is now on my wagon because apparently I am making wrong conclusions about him.
Oh yeah,
849 is a scumtell too.
Legitimate analysis of someone else's vote on you is difficult to do, especially when the end result is to assess the other player as town.
Trying to work with other players to develop the game in a positive manner.
In post 1079, Parmigiano Reggiano wrote:1) RadiantCowbells
2) GuiltyLion
3) Michael Scott (hydra of Volxen and Auro)
4) Alonzo
5) Brigitte
6) Varsoon
7) Fractured (Enter + Taly)
8) mbaki
9) JohnnyEnglish
10) implosion
11) Lovebird
12) Parmigiano Reggiano
13) Reality Check (Ankamius Mastina)
I'll vote these people today and nobody else, I think.
Development of reads, working through the game down to a small enough player list.