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[Vedith]

Was you on Dinner Donner thing, URA?

[insomnia]

Okay, that's all I'm doing right now

@Chara and Scepticism - I'd really appreciate it if the two of you could give some thoughts on some of what I've posted

i'll do that.
i think there's at least two scum in Scept/Creature/Easy Bake. Creature doesn't get a wagon because it's not as useful for reading him. i'd lynch him if i'm very sure he's scum, which i think he could be. but for now i'm okay given him another chance just to be completely sure.

Easy Bake is just generically scummy.

I don’t see Burken as the lynch for the day.

Nah, this is probably town Creature. I have a blind spot for him, though.

blind spot notwithstanding, i'd like to hear why this is town Creature.

i don't think the meta is right. it isn't that scum Creature doesn't post. he's perfectly capable of continuing to fluff as scum.

i'm in agreement that i don't want him lynched day 1, however. if he's town he can show it evenrually.

on a second look i think i'm scumreading him less than i was. Creature does seem pretty relaxed here and i actually think the "i'm funnier when i'm town" bit is true.

and i know you don't really read me well, but i was wondering what you thought, Creature.

to whoever asked, i'm scumreading Burke and Scept about the same. but we're slowly working through.

Creature, i've metadived you in previous games and i'm aware you can post content as scum. don't pretend you haven't before. :>

Meh, whatever. So why were you complaining about me not posting content again?

because i think town you does more of it in a way i can follow, unless you're not into the game. which i've also seen happen.
but that's tendencies and not a hard and fast rule. hence why i'm not gunning for your lynch.

pedit: what is that last post responding to, Flavor?

i remember that game too. it haunts me.
was more asking about games where we were town together and you gutscumread me, however. the one where you were scum is very fresh in my mind precisely because of my clear getting lynched.

don't feel much like talking more about Creature, as my argument has never been that he must be scum here for meta, but rather that he's not out of his scumrange. i'd rather see him chat with other players. he may dislike being scum but he isn't so poor at it that he lurks a game from start to finish every single time.
and i also could see him being town here for what i said earlier.

do you agree with TLK scum?

i'm really surprised if that's a scumkill after what i said about Creature being in his scumrange.

i also don't really blame Deb for the hammer. were this a proper newbie game i would have warned about asking for claims, but i wasn't thinking about that in spite of all of the players here new to the site.

don't lolhammer at L-1. give intent and get a claim. if wilky had had his chance to claim we could have lynched someone else, because disloyal vigilante is a ridiculously strong PR you have no choice but to let live to see if they hit some scum or not.

I exaggerated on the clear part, but it seemed you had conflicting thoughts regarding Creature being scum. Am I wrong? You've also said you don't want them lynched day one,because he can clear himself as town. So claiming that you don't get the nk on him because you said he was in his scum range despite having conflicting thoughts is not a failproof reason to tr and I can see you using that as a reason to get out of a lynch.

p-edit: I'm really easy to read, vedith is right on that note . My first scum game was Newbie 1918, you can go check it out if you wish to meta dive

[u r a person 2]

Was you on Dinner Donner thing, URA?

Nope nope

[u r a person 2]

Okay, insomnia you want to use the

Spoiler:

tag instead of the

tag for stuff like that

[Vedith]

Was you on Dinner Donner thing, URA?

Nope nope

Okay

[insomnia]

Here Chara:

Newbie 1918 - Scum game won by le moi
Donner Dinner Party - Town game, ez scumhunt

[insomnia]

Okay, insomnia you want to use the

Spoiler:

tag instead of the

tag for stuff like that

I don't know how that works xD

[Flavor Leaf]

Also on the note of being stoked about someone with my reads, why would I be stoked? I don’t necessarily like when people share my reads for reasons not caused by me. It usually comes from scum.

It’s more of the fact that you thought I should be stoked that you had similar reads yet were shading me, which is what i found off.

Which is it? You were not stoked because:

A: Flavor Leaf doesn't like it when people share reads he didn't influence
B: Flavor Leaf doesn't like it when people share reads yet scumread him

It’s both. That’s why I said both.

[Chara]

I exaggerated on the clear part, but it seemed you had conflicting thoughts regarding Creature being scum. Am I wrong? You've also said you don't want them lynched day one,because he can clear himself as town. So claiming that you don't get the nk on him because you said he was in his scum range despite having conflicting thoughts is not a failproof reason to tr and I can see you using that as a reason to get out of a lynch.

my thoughts there aren't very conflicting. half of those posts you quoted are me doing things like questioning TRs on Creature (like FL, whose meta i didn't agree with at all) or explaining why he could absolutely be scum here. he even tried to say he had posted content so i shouldn't be scumreading him, when both he and i know scum Creature can post content.
i've mislynched Creature before so i simply wanted to be sure. if he'd continued to play today like he had day 1 i'm sure i would have lynched him. if he's a player i feel i can surely catch, of course i'm going to wait on lynching him until i'm 100%. there's no reason to rush into it.

[Chara]

Here Chara:

Newbie 1918 - Scum game won by le moi
Donner Dinner Party - Town game, ez scumhunt

is this your only scum game?

[u r a person 2]

Okay, insomnia you want to use the [ spoiler=]tag instead of the [ spoiler]tag for stuff like that

I don't know how that works xD

when you made that big post you used the [ spoiler] tag, right? just put an equal sign in there.

if you're using the button in the reply page, it's one to the right of the "spoiler" tag.

spoiler tag:

This makes a black redacted style line and makes your multiquotes look awful. Also this is nearly impossible to use on mobile

spoiler= tag:

Spoiler: spoiled!

This makes one of these nifty boxes! anything you put after the equal will be the name of the spoiler. In this case, "spoiled!"

[insomnia]

Here Chara:

Newbie 1918 - Scum game won by le moi
Donner Dinner Party - Town game, ez scumhunt

is this your only scum game?

I can't respond to that question, rules.

There's one more on Branch Mafia now that I think about it, but it was a rep in a scummy spot and so I just fooled around for most of the time

[Vedith]

Insomnia replaced in for PvT as Scum in that branching mafia and I lynched him \o/

[Vedith]

But it was already set as a Scum slot.

[insomnia]

But it was already set as a Scum slot.

Yeah, so it was mainly me messing around, it's not my usual scum play

[Chara]

and why would scum me want to get out of a lynch on Creature? if that's what you meant.
he was a traitor, i would not have known he was on my team.
and avoiding the lynch on him only to then nightkill him makes even less sense, because the only reason to avoid that lynch would be A) i figured out he was the traitor, or B) i wanted to mislynch him later.

[Chara]

I can't respond to that question, rules.

yes you can. i'm talking about completed games.
is this your only completed scumgame viewable on mafiascum?
better?

[Chara]

Insomnia replaced in for PvT as Scum in that branching mafia and I lynched him \o/

But it was already set as a Scum slot.

But it was already set as a Scum slot.

Yeah, so it was mainly me messing around, it's not my usual scum play

okay, so the newbie was it.
if Vedith says you're easy to read i'll listen when he does get his read, but with only one real scumgame i'm going to take the meta with a grain of salt.

[Flavor Leaf]

I wouldn’t have caught Creature ever this game.

He’s my blindspot. Let’s try to NKA. Who kills Creature but doesn’t think he could be their traitor?

[Flavor Leaf]

pedit: i like easy to read players.

That’s why you like me so much, right?

[insomnia]

and why would scum me want to get out of a lynch on Creature? if that's what you meant.
he was a traitor, i would not have known he was on my team.
and avoiding the lynch on him only to then nightkill him makes even less sense, because the only reason to avoid that lynch would be A) i figured out he was the traitor, or B) i wanted to mislynch him later.

I disagree with the first part of your post, but the second one does make sense. Scum you would want to throw shade on a potential suspicious slot to look town, but you're avoiding his lynch to get more information from him so you can confirm your beliefs about him being scum without losing him. The nk defence I agree with.

p-edit: Those are my only completed games.

[insomnia]

Insomnia replaced in for PvT as Scum in that branching mafia and I lynched him \o/

But it was already set as a Scum slot.

But it was already set as a Scum slot.

Yeah, so it was mainly me messing around, it's not my usual scum play

okay, so the newbie was it.
if Vedith says you're easy to read i'll listen when he does get his read, but with only one real scumgame i'm going to take the meta with a grain of salt.

That scum game is a good meta dive for you though. You'll see a huge difference.

By the way, just to clarify, I was "scum reading" in that game.

[u r a person 2]

I wouldn’t have caught Creature ever this game.

He’s my blindspot. Let’s try to NKA. Who kills Creature but doesn’t think he could be their traitor?

TLK, shiidaji, insomnia slots

but I'm only saying this because those are my top scum reads atm


ummm you by your own reasoning

probably not vedith, i know they've played together some at least

probably both brothers and DEB because I don't expect them to know much about creature

probably not chara

i don't know enough to speak on anyone else

[Flavor Leaf]

Urap2
L84Dnr
DEB

Flips
Vedith
Chara

Burkenstock
The Last Knight

Shiidaji
Insomnia


I think this is where I’m at right now. The tiers aren’t ordered. My town reads are stronger than my scum reads, but I expect to be wrong somewhere.

[Flavor Leaf]

Insomnia replaced in for PvT as Scum in that branching mafia and I lynched him \o/

But it was already set as a Scum slot.

But it was already set as a Scum slot.

Yeah, so it was mainly me messing around, it's not my usual scum play

okay, so the newbie was it.
if Vedith says you're easy to read i'll listen when he does get his read, but with only one real scumgame i'm going to take the meta with a grain of salt.

That scum game is a good meta dive for you though. You'll see a huge difference.

By the way, just to clarify, I was "scum reading" in that game.

Clarifying, he was scum in a newbie game with Xtoxm, myself, and Egix, Egix was pegged hard Day 1 by me, and Egix was going after xtoxm, making xtoxm and I pretty townie, by Night 2 he was done for, but he killed xtoxm and I off, and swept the game, so this guy’s pretty capable of scum. Don’t newbie write him off.