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Post Post #1300 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:20 am

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This:
feels like a read on a partner's wagon
With the vote in

Still think the same?

Again, TLK and L8 have pushed the same slots except for Flippy.

I find it hard to believe you read a scum team formed of me and TLK given he pushed a scum agenda on my slot since day one.
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Post Post #1301 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:24 am

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In post 1290, L84Dnr wrote:
In post 1278, insomnia wrote:When you have an
Informed TOWNIE
claim on day one, it does make sense to try and kill the claim, since it's conftown.
No, it's claimed town. Scum also know that there are 4 scum, so "Informed Townie" would be an easy claim to fake.

And that brings up the interesting question of why the Persivul/Shiidaji slot didn't get the NK.
I like to picture it in my head that they think they are well equipped to mislynch me eventually :) That or because my D1 reads fit into their agenda for today.

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Post Post #1302 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:34 am

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I repped in at the beginning of the day, but whatever, I’ll just wait to get at L-1 and then claim because people don’t listen to me even if I make scum cases, like ever
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Post Post #1303 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:38 am

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In post 1301, Shiidaji wrote:I like to picture it in my head that they think they are well equipped to mislynch me eventually That or because my D1 reads fit into their agenda for today.
i might actually agree with this considering where your reads were at the time. but you've been continually sorting since you got in which is a good indicator for you being town, if i hadn't already been townreading you.
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Post Post #1304 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:41 am

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does insomnia have a counterwagon right now? i'm not sure of the count.
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"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
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Post Post #1305 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:51 am

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In post 1293, The Last Knight wrote:
In post 1290, L84Dnr wrote:
In post 1278, insomnia wrote:When you have an
Informed TOWNIE
claim on day one, it does make sense to try and kill the claim, since it's conftown.
No, it's claimed town. Scum also know that there are 4 scum, so "Informed Townie" would be an easy claim to fake.

And that brings up the interesting question of why the Persivul/Shiidaji slot didn't get the NK.
That second part is a really interesting point that I want to agree with.

But as for scum knowing how many there, wouldn't the existence of a traitor make scum think that there are fewer scum than there actually are? Or is the scum team informed of a traitor's existence?

So, if they wouldn't know there was a potential traitor before a claim like informed town, how could an fake claim as informed town coming from scum be accurate?
Under the Normal guidelines for Traitor the scum team should know of the Traitor's existence.
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Post Post #1306 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:54 am

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thanks for reminding me this was a Normal.
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Post Post #1307 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:54 am

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In post 1304, Chara wrote:does insomnia have a counterwagon right now? i'm not sure of the count.
TLK has a few on him.
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Post Post #1308 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 12:00 pm

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In post 1304, Chara wrote:does insomnia have a counterwagon right now? i'm not sure of the count.
The Last Knight - u r a person 2, insomnia, Vedith


Insomnia - L84Dnr, The Last Knight, Shiidaji

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kicking off from Zulfy's last one. We aren't ending today without content from Flippy, Burk, FL, and DEB needs to weigh in as well

L8, TLK are either of you here rn? Are you in the middle of writing up a post?
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Post Post #1309 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 12:24 pm

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I covered that post in my discussion!! Right there, you quoted it. My point was that you didn't actually look at him with ideas others had in mind, your post to me looks like a premeditated, "how can I jump on this wagon without coming across too scummy" post. I have a tendency to read these types of playstyles as scum and be accurate at picking them out, because of how pronounced and in order the post was in comparison to the "character" I saw of you at the beginning of day one you get me??

I see that now. My bad. But, really, beyond what I have already said on this point, there is nothing more to it. Take my word or not, but I have nothing more to say in response anymore.
TLK can you share what this was yet::::
In post 408, The Last Knight wrote:By the way, I have a tin foil theory that I need to flesh out a bit with ISO's and time. It may have to wait until D2 but I am becoming skeptical of a couple people here. Waiting to see what they do today and how they interact.
I wish I could. I remember your hw assignment and I want to follow up to earn town points with you (since you are a hard town read for me), but it hasn't played out like I wanted. This could just mean that my hunch was wrong. But I might as well keep quiet in case it still becomes something.

If I get to D3, I'll just say it though.


That's how I feel atm, the more I read his twilight play around Wilky getting voted and the resulting direction of play in D2 the less I like him, plus there are multiple interactions of his that I can see fitting as the third puzzle piece to my initial FL-TLK-XXX idea.
In post 1231, The Last Knight wrote:I'll vote there.

VOTE: Insomnia
u cheeky boy

Would scum TLK intentionally vote in the exact same way, with the exact same pattern as he did in the post that I accused him in? I remember from ISOing you there being cases where you don't do this.


I'm a cheeky mofo. This not AI. But I am town, if that helps. (;

In post 1267, u r a person 2 wrote:@TLK I'm looking forward to seeing whatcha got tonight

@Shiidaji What do you think about TLK these last few pages?
Frustrated because despite my initial reads and my case the last few pages feel like they're coming from town that is trying to earnestly reverse public opinion on him. Like I want my original read to be correct and to lynch him tho lmao u feel me. The only post that stuck out to me that I didn't like recently was the one where he asked FL about his read tiers, it didn't feel legitimate and felt like a filler ((content post)) but maybe that's because I found it immediately obvious what he meant. Insomnia clearly didn't pick up on it either so I'm not pushing this.
I'm glad you came around.

That post was me addressing a fairly ambiguous post by FL. if someone else can make more sense of it than I could, I accept your interpretation.
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Post Post #1310 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 12:36 pm

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[ <- me wanting to say smth rn but I'll fill it in later

It's obviously townread top to scumread bottom
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Post Post #1311 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:00 pm

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yeah FL meant that the order within the tiers wasn't relevant, but the tiers themselves were. It's a fairly standard thing on this site, so don't feel bad about missing it.

VOTE: insomnia

Insomnia is still hitting the notes for what I understand to be his scum game. can figure out tlk later
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Post Post #1312 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:02 pm

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hey ura you're not scum with TLK right?
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Post Post #1313 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:05 pm

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In post 1312, Shiidaji wrote:hey ura you're not scum with TLK right?
nope he's not my partner :wink:
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Post Post #1314 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:15 pm

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In post 1313, u r a person 2 wrote:
In post 1312, Shiidaji wrote:hey ura you're not scum with TLK right?
nope he's not my partner :wink:
kay cool pls don't kill me if you are :] :]

Chara hi honey how do u read none of L8, TLK nor URA making a kneejerk reaction fuss abt my insomnia vote? I just said I need to reread everything about his latest interactions, and the last time i mentioned the insom slot I said I had a townread on the slot.
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Post Post #1315 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:18 pm

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oooh spicy
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Post Post #1316 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:21 pm

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makes more sense why you made a vote count - i like it
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Post Post #1317 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:23 pm

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In post 1143, Vedith wrote:Did you ask me something?
I'm waiting to see how I feel on you. Donner thing you were obvious town for me.

And we both know I really want us to be town together \o/

TLK I'm not sure. I'm not confident to call Scum there but I'm willing to listen to a case and probably defend it if it's weak.
Am I wrong?
In post 1172, Vedith wrote:
In post 1159, Shiidaji wrote:The reason I feel less confident in townreading
I'm not here to convince you of me town.
TLK I was thinking more likely Scum but I feel that less by the time the day started.
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In post 1297, Vedith wrote:VOTE: TLK
Bruh, what happen?
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Post Post #1318 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:25 pm

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creature thoughts::

c+f shows creature never voted anyone which blows, but that also means he never jumped on leading wagons when he was online

24 and 181 breadcrumb? lmao
fluff
593 implicates TLK imo given that Wilky flipped town, since Creature's scum this is his way of implying which wagons he wants to join later
642 feels like he's talking to a townie (L8) voting for another townie (Burk)
644 idk how to read this if there were two scum in scept/creature/easy bake I feel like he just wouldn't bring this post up in the first place, but it's not as helpful as later post 850 since it includes Creature in the three
672 685 688 feel like a discussion with a townie (Chara)
850 feels like an implication that there's up to one scum of (Wilky/Burke/TLK)? I feel like he wouldn't say that if there were two, so it lowers chances of TLK+Burke scum, I wouldn't be surprised if Creature would post this if all three are town though so I don't think it implicates individually
854 I don't know how to take this interaction with FL and L8 (Laundry) but if anyone has a clue pencil me in

ultimately creature iso feels a little fruitless, slightly more inclined to feel town L8 and town Chara, slight lean in scum for TLK and mixed bag for Burk. If anyone knows him better they might want to look into his fluff interactions since I can't take anything away from them.
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Post Post #1319 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:28 pm

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In post 1311, u r a person 2 wrote:yeah FL meant that the order within the tiers wasn't relevant, but the tiers themselves were. It's a fairly standard thing on this site, so don't feel bad about missing it.

VOTE: insomnia

Insomnia is still hitting the notes for what I understand to be his scum game. can figure out tlk later
Okay that makes sense.

I understand now.
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Post Post #1320 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:32 pm

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In post 1305, L84Dnr wrote:Under the Normal guidelines for Traitor the scum team should know of the Traitor's existence.
Does the Traitor know who the scum are?
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Post Post #1321 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:32 pm

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I'll just look it up.
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Post Post #1322 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:34 pm

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In post 1314, Shiidaji wrote:Chara hi honey how do u read none of L8, TLK nor URA making a kneejerk reaction fuss abt my insomnia vote? I just said I need to reread everything about his latest interactions, and the last time i mentioned the insom slot I said I had a townread on the slot.
i'm not sure how much to get out of it, since upon a reread of interactions having a read change doesn't really surprise me.
and would they make a fuss about you voting their preferred lynch?
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Post Post #1323 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:35 pm

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In post 1317, The Last Knight wrote:Bruh, what happen?
echoing this, unless i missed something.
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"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
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Post Post #1324 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:38 pm

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When I find some time at work, I'll do a big sweep read of the group.
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