micro 858: silver 3 (ended game)

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I can confirm that Vedith is town. Iconeum on the other hand...

VOTE: Iconeum

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have information, you do?

Curiosity, you have?

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From what?

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I am amused.

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You’re kind of the sheep though, no?

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Bit harsh. I’m the one leading your wagon.

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The wagon he is on.

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yeah you’re right.

VOTE: Jungle

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He’s not voting me.

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Oh wait nvm I’m an idiot.

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rooster just goes Mia after that whole "I'm an idiot" thing but nothing much in their iso so far.

Perhaps because I'm not in the same timezone as you? Shock horror!

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Iconeum scum reads both me and Jungle (equally?) but tries to push for my lynch when there's a hefty wagon on Jungle.

They're buddies.

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I didn't really until that post, which I just explained.

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Also I know you wont believe me but I was literally going to vote Jungle before I got Ninja'd by the post from Draco. I slightly changed the content to make it fit the convo.

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He's trying to start a counterwagon to stop the buddy from being lynched (scum getting lynched D1 would be tough in this game I think), while still scumreading the buddy so that if the buddy flips he stays kind of town.

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Nope.

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I find it really hard to get anything from discussions about meta when I don’t really know the meta of the people involved.

Sorry.

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And the worst part is your town, so I’m not going to fight you.

Pedit: If I had substance I would say it. But I don’t.

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It seemed that way to me.

And I probably should be able to. Just I can’t.

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VOTE: Iconeum

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It’s a bullshit case. Well done. You are town.

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Stalling game is stalling.

People seem to be thinking that me vs brass was town (yay! me too). I also towered both Hydrae.

VOTE: Starwing

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Cute. Do you?

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What if I townread you?

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Imma just give you a null read.

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I must tease you.

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You probably shouldn't. I have no idea what I'm doing right now.

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Brass you still think I’m scum?

This game is like moving through treacle.

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Sorry I’ve been busy today. Will talk more tomorrow.

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Starwing is actually just scum.

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It takes him until 249 to actually vote me, however as soon as 264 he completely drops his attention on me and votes starwing without explanation (the popular wagon at that time). Only reasoning here is because game was stalling

This is factually incorrect. I believe I started the Starwing wagon, not the other way around.

My scumread on you and jungle was weak as I think is painfully obvious. I didn't have clear ideas earlier on, but now I have a bit more. I don't like how you were misrepping the situation here and that makes you scummy also.

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Vedith is annoying town ATM. Just what it is.

I like that latests post from Iconeum, and Starwing is still grating me.

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Starwing still scum :O

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Nope.

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Every time I try to go for preflips I’m wrong, so no thanks.

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So can you vote Starwing? Ty.

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Ok but why are you voting Brass?

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Yeah, my interactions with him earlier felt like it was town pushing me.

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Vedith you’re being resistant and I can’t be bothered to keep pushing you for info. If you wanna tell me why, go ahead.

That posts from Starwing reminds me of yours in our first game together when you were town. But I have a feeling that it’s only NAI coming from you, but AI from most others.

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Plausible mod error.
So why are you so certain that there's 3?

And the whole implying I slipped thing. I know you were actually trolling but I didn’t get that at the time. I feel for most people writing something along those lines is +scum, but for you it isn’t.

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Vedith fake scum-slips/similar all the time. It’s to get reactions but I’m not sure it’s particularly effective. Here though I think it kind of worked, although Vedith is not giving very much about his opinions (like Vedith, what do YOU think about that post?). It’s definately not indicative of scum Vedith and IMO is more likely from town Vedith (btw this is what I meant about productive trolling in that large normal).

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You know whAT? I thin Vedith might actually be town.

Please can someone do something blatantly scummy. Thank you so much in advance.

Oh lol I didn’t see that post. Ignore what I said then.

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Brain had gone fuzzy and I forgot I asked that. This was so blatant that it didn't feel real. Thank you Vedith.

Wait you weren't joking with that post? That was why I said to disregard what I said. In that case, that was still scummy.

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Why does that post make Starwing scummy?

It’s the trying to shade what is obviously a joke post. If the shade was a joke then it wouldn’t be, but he’s saying it wasn’t so it’s scummy.

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Roster says I'm scum, but had given no case except that I am a grater. Lots of assertions.

I didn’t really think you were scum until you started trying to defend yourself. I feel a mild degree of anxiety from your posts, which I don’t think town feels at this stage of a wagon.

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Vedith, please be more forthcoming. At some point it’s going to annoy me into mislynching you.

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But like mild shading? I feel like town are more likely to see that as just a joke, whereas scum it goes round and round in their heads and becomes fuzzy, leading to that kind of post.

I have mislynched you before. Don’t trick me into doing it again.

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Yeah but Scum kind of wants to appear like they don’t understand it, like trying to semi-town slip. That’s more what I mean I think

Your whole style of play IMO is to provoke people into attacking you and get reactions (though this doesn’t work with people who know you better). Problem is I’ve hard-tunnelled town-you twice for exactly this and been wrong both times, so I think you’re town .

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I won’t. Just I want Vedith to be more open so I can atually get the views of someone I believe to be town. That was a mild joke, but alas humour seems to be lacking a part in mafia games.

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It's hard to convey sarcasm through text, sometimes you need to actually state it.

Don’t you think that kind of ruins the effect though?

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Vedith doesn’t really give townie feelings when held in this mood.

Draco/URAP - I’m on about a mini and large normal we played. Vedith was town in both and was playing to this mood. I have also seen Vedith play strongly, as in Gators. Since (unless ongoing games) I’ve not seen scum Vedith it’s hard to know whether there’s a clear meta thing. I suspect that Vedith can do both as either alignment so it’s not really AI and he could well be playing like this to pocket me.

Tl;Dr I don’t have a clue, but I don’t think Vedith is readable from his style and it’s not really a reason to push.

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VOTE: Draco

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VOTE: Starwing

Ok we’re actually running out of time here and need to coalesce around a lynch. If you want to lynch me that’s fine but just choose somebody.

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I’m a Vengeful Traffic cop. I visit a player and learn if my action was redireted (but I don’t think onto who).

If that was my lynch put bets on who I shoot with my vengeful.

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I think y’all should follow Draco more than Merry, although I’m not convinced Merry is scum.

I’ve been townreading Starwing’s more recent posts.

Venge: Gemini

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It would be funny if I’m not vengeful.

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Yay gg.

Yeah I was extremely surprised but it does make sense.

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Yeah but then you lynch him as he’s vengeful so could kill Ank is she was scum.