micro 858: silver 3 (ended game)

[Iconeum]

Beans for sale!

VOTE: Merry and Pippin

I never did trust these 2

[Iconeum]

VOTE: No Lynch

How about them beans, though?

Also, who is No Lynch and why do you want him dead?

[Iconeum]

no

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I can confirm that Vedith is town. Iconeum on the other hand...

VOTE: Iconeum

have information, you do?

[Iconeum]

have information, you do?

Curiosity, you have?

Not exactly, but you seem so eager to help Vedith out

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exactly

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sneaky

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i'm actually like semi-serious about roster here

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Jungle's a tough read for me here. I was really feeling scummy vibes from that slot, but he handled Draco's pressure really well.

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JM saying my joke TR on Vedith was not to be trusted and calling three players obvtown on page 2 is lulz

it's quite serious in fact.

i'll help you out, one of them was brass.

I just can't let this go, and Draco also caught this but there was never a serious reply?
If you were in fact quite serious, why don't you provide the answer here? (If i happen to missed it, it's still early here so just point me to the post and i'll be happy)

[Iconeum]

yeah you’re right.

VOTE: Jungle

We could also just lynch scum

VOTE: rosterfoster

[Iconeum]

On the Phone so i'll make it brief:

Roster opens with RVS vote on me, later tries to get credit for 'leading the wagon' on me, only to be called out by Draco that it's prolly a bad idea to be on a wagon containing Jungle which indicates Roster should be scumreading Jungle. After this callout Roster switches votes to Jungle (being directed there by Draco instead of coming to that Obvious conclusion himself).

It gives me a feeling that Draco's got a scumteam of Jungle and Roster by the ballz (including Draco's push on Jungle re the 3 conf town he mentioned)

As it stands right now, lynching in Jungle or Roster

[Iconeum]

Just go through Roster ISO and see how and why he switched votes to Jungle

[Iconeum]

v/la over weekends, i'll try to at least keep up

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JM saying my joke TR on Vedith was not to be trusted and calling three players obvtown on page 2 is lulz

it's quite serious in fact.

i'll help you out, one of them was brass.

I just can't let this go, and Draco also caught this but there was never a serious reply?
If you were in fact quite serious, why don't you provide the answer here? (If i happen to missed it, it's still early here so just point me to the post and i'll be happy)

Jungle, talk to me. Give me the 3 obvtown players you were referring to at that point.

[Iconeum]

Has anyone actually bothered to read roster's push on me, and his lack of pushing his scumread from then on?
Roster is still my top pick as lynch today

[Iconeum]

Gemini, Vedith, Draco townreads

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Scumreading Merry and Pippin for 50%

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The recent Rooster Brass interaction made me think of a TvT. Still they all need to be examined properly. Next week I will have time. Less than two days from now.

Interested in hearing your thoughts on this, Starwing

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for 50%?

I'm scumreading 1 of your heads

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Merry is scum, btw

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but it's difficult to be sure because there aren't many posts signed

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it could easily be my bias vs hydra's. I Always read them as scum because they can contradict inside 1 slot a lot

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Also

if you try to investigate us you're a moron

ok jungle let's make a deal

you stop being an obnoxious fuck and I make sure you don't get lynched today

deal?

Your iso makes me want to stab someone

also if we dicerolled to determine the scum, would we be using real dice or like random.org

There's so much garbage in those posts… makes it hard for me to read it anything but scum.
I think the pippin head made 171, which would make the slot more towny

put the Vedith vote doesn't comply…
Still more interested in both roster and Jungle

[Iconeum]

Gemini, Vedith, Draco townreads

why vedith

i briefly checked Jungle's meta & he tends to make up meta-reads as scum

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vedith because there's literally nothing scummy in the posts, both content and intent wise.

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Jungle also trying to discredit my townread in Draco. Most of his post on me is based on assumptions about my playstyle and meta while ignoring the actual content on Roster.

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VOTE: Jungle

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Gemini, Vedith, Draco townreads

why vedith

i briefly checked Jungle's meta & he tends to make up meta-reads as scum

Can you link the meta of the faked meta so I can make sure that this is not a meta scam where you make up someone making up meta as their meta?

You should ask Jungle where he got his meta read from. I in fact posted it as a scam as a counter his post which is based on thin air. I hate meta reads. I'm scum because I use a certain grammar in a certain way Let him prove it

[Iconeum]

Is not Jungle account new? What wonderful thing is this meta you speak of?

The account is new, yes. Please don't take me calling out his meta seriously.

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I already did. I also consider it pretty empty (based solely on meta and assumptions about me). Especially since (I think) I never played with that slot before.
Why do you think my case on roster is illogical?

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vedith because there's literally nothing scummy in the posts, both content and intent wise.

Nothing pings you about 338?

No, actually.

-U2

can you bus icon please? i don't think i'll be able to get him lynched without your help.

Maybe you are having trouble getting me lynched because you got caught in a lie/fake statement?

[Iconeum]

Bit harsh. I’m the one leading your wagon.

You're not voting him

-Slaxx

The wagon he is on.

The wagon he is on.

Oh.

I wouldn't be voting anyone he is voting.

-Slaxx

yeah you’re right.

VOTE: Jungle

This is the exchange that screams roster is scum, to me.

[Iconeum]

What do you need clarification on?

My no answer about Vedith is pretty Obvious
I'm calling Jungle out for either lying or faking the meta statement. This is actually the second time this game he does smt like that. First with his 3 conftown players that he backed away from after being questioned, and now with the meta case.

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After that exchange from roster that I posted a few posts ago, he attacks me in 215. Basicly saying i'm scum because i vote him instead of Jungle who already had a couple votes. Links me to Jungle as buddie

and again in 221

It takes him until 249 to actually vote me, however as soon as 264 he completely drops his attention on me and votes starwing without explanation (the popular wagon at that time). Only reasoning here is because game was stalling

Every single next post he made is fluff, non-game related and unhelpfull. Like he doesn't even care about his scumread on me AND jungle anymore

[Iconeum]

I feel roster is the correct lynch here. Him flipping scum would give town points to Jungle imo.

[Iconeum]

VOTE: Roster

[Iconeum]

Firstly because of the stuff I just posted
Secondly because Jungle IS being active, which makes it a lot easier to catch him (more so then we already have) on subsequent days.

I'd lynch them both I I could...

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I'm saying I have trouble seeing a team of Roster/Jungle at this point despite what I said earlier. Roster was putting too much effort in having Jungle in a scum bracket. I feel pretty good about there being 1 scum in the 2 of them

[Iconeum]

I'm comfortable lynching in either of them right now, but it's D1 i'm not willing to put my own slot on the line for being wrong

[Iconeum]

the general points that others have made that you're really scummy and a reasonably safe D1 Lynch

What do you think of my scumread on you?

idk I guess you shouldn't have rolled scum

Voting you when Skitter gets back

you're like obviously scum

maybe you should get better as scum?

Well I know your town meta and this is clearly not it so bye bye

Nah.

VOTE: brassherald

Townreads here are wrong btw

So all posts above were about Jungle being scum, and you end up voting Brass.
Whattup with that?

[Iconeum]

Brass though?

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The recent Rooster Brass interaction made me think of a TvT. Still they all need to be examined properly. Next week I will have time. Less than two days from now.

Starwing, what made you change your mind about Rooster being town? Can you link the posts between my quote and now that made rooster scum for you?

[Iconeum]

Congratulations of your birthday, Iconeum.

Iconeum's aura is town. Not putting his own slot on the line does not look like refusing to take responsibility. I think he just doesn't want to die.
Yet having no preference between two people who you believe are not working together, is far less that ideal. Having two contradictory scum reads, or an association that means one is scum if the other is not and vice versa, is alright, but this looks like two dependent scum reads, that do not rest of the other at all, and thus there ought to be a preference.

Jungle is more town than Roster. Roster's posts are all empty.

VOTE: Roster Foster

But Ico-Jungle-Roster circle is very diverting. I'm likely missing something behind it, but I enjoy it.

This is just hedging, really. You think i'm town, but then you think it's suspicious i don't have a preference between my scumreads. Not a logical conclusion here.
And really, what compels YOU to choose between Jungle and Rooster here?

VOTE: Starwing

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It takes him until 249 to actually vote me, however as soon as 264 he completely drops his attention on me and votes starwing without explanation (the popular wagon at that time). Only reasoning here is because game was stalling

This is factually incorrect. I believe I started the Starwing wagon, not the other way around.

My scumread on you and jungle was weak as I think is painfully obvious. I didn't have clear ideas earlier on, but now I have a bit more. I don't like how you were misrepping the situation here and that makes you scummy also.

I stand corrected, you were in fact the first on that wagon

Starwing is actually just scum.

Explain though? You were the first to push the slot, and now again. Why?

[Iconeum]

I will be V/LA starting tomorrow until Monday. Will be back on Tuesday so that should give me time to catch up before Day runs out.

I will be considering where I want my vote parked during the long weekend. Any suggestions?

[Iconeum]

VOTE: Brass

no

[Iconeum]

Congratulations of your birthday, Iconeum.

Iconeum's aura is town. Not putting his own slot on the line does not look like refusing to take responsibility. I think he just doesn't want to die.
Yet having no preference between two people who you believe are not working together, is far less that ideal. Having two contradictory scum reads, or an association that means one is scum if the other is not and vice versa, is alright, but this looks like two dependent scum reads, that do not rest of the other at all, and thus there ought to be a preference.

Jungle is more town than Roster. Roster's posts are all empty.

VOTE: Roster Foster

But Ico-Jungle-Roster circle is very diverting. I'm likely missing something behind it, but I enjoy it.

This is just hedging, really. You think i'm town, but then you think it's suspicious i don't have a preference between my scumreads. Not a logical conclusion here.
And really, what compels YOU to choose between Jungle and Rooster here?

VOTE: Starwing

Of course, I do know I'm inconsistent at times. But you feel like town despite your inconsistencies. And it's still your problem. Would I make you feel better if I scum read you for it?

Jungle has content, and looks very much like a person who is trying. Roster doesn't. So maybe is is playstyle. Maybe the wrackspurts turned me into a sheep.

Do Merry and Pippin have a reason for saying Brass is not town? I still think we need one.

I wonder what the next alternate time line will look like. It's sure to be fun if the heliopaths aren't in it.

I'm not asking why you picked Roster over Jungle, I'm asking why vote Rooster at all (from your pov). You were previously townreading him and nothing points towards a natural change

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I townread Roster based on an isolated interaction when i really hadn't taken in much of the game as a whole. Perspective naturally gives new views.

Ok so put it in perspective for us. How did you go from a Rooster townread to a Rooster scumread?
There's a bunch of other players, and nobody forced you to vote for either Jungle OR Rooster. I link the 2, that doesn't mean you should feel compelled to do so either, especially considering you had him as a townread.

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I'm back, y'all

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So, Vedith huh?

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Are you going to share them?

I think you Rooster and Mary Poppins are town.
I think Starwing might be scum
And the rest I don't care if we lynch wrong because they aren't town reads.

Hello \o/

I don't know. Seems slow atm.
Rooster not questioning further on me not voting who I think is Scum is a concern.

Okay I think I'm ready to vote Starwing.
Before so, give me a reason to vote Rooster?

669 Vedith produces townread on Rooster
679 Putting Rooster as a concerning read
700 Trying to shift towards a Rooster vote

And reading Vedith ISO doesn't give me much of a town feeling in any case

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I'm growing more into a Rooster townread myself based on the recent posting by Rooster. A lot more townie then his first half of ISO.

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VOTE: Vedith

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i'm willing to change to rooster but i'm not committing to a draco lynch here

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it looks like a very long shot to get Vedith lynch done before EoD

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VOTE: rooster

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dear lord i've been calling him rOOSter all game

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cool

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For the record, this is bullshit.

I think roster feels the same way, you hammering him without intent or even letting him claim first

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Give your final reads while you still can, if ur town

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that's a scum answer