I am looking for a co-mod who specializes in web page layout/design & image skills. Theme is still being decided on, but ideas are already developing. Likely going to be a Bastard/Complex level game, but that has yet to be determined. Still in early planning stages
In post 201, Malkon05 wrote:I am looking for a co-mod who specializes in web page layout/design & image skills. Theme is still being decided on, but ideas are already developing. Likely going to be a Bastard/Complex level game, but that has yet to be determined. Still in early planning stages
I'm also involved in this, and we could use a person who is much better at image work and site design than I am.
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So I know this was probably meant as a joke based on what I know of the history of this comment and I know it wasn't directly aimed at me, but as this is my first LSG I am modding, and you have no idea what is going into it/how much work we are putting into it, I would appreciate you not saying negative stuff about it unless you have constructive criticism rather than it being just a "bad game". I have never once said anything negative about your games and I believe the first post in this thread confirms and backs up what I am saying in regards to being polite when giving feedback. I'm already semi nervous about hosting a game on MS for the first time and would appreciate some support.
Still <3 you bud, but maybe taking that into consideration before making comments like that in places like this would be great.
So I know this was probably meant as a joke based on what I know of the history of this comment and I know it wasn't directly aimed at me, but as this is my first LSG I am modding, and you have no idea what is going into it/how much work we are putting into it, I would appreciate you not saying negative stuff about it unless you have constructive criticism rather than it being just a "bad game". I have never once said anything negative about your games and I believe the first post in this thread confirms and backs up what I am saying in regards to being polite when giving feedback. I'm already semi nervous about hosting a game on MS for the first time and would appreciate some support.
Still <3 you bud, but maybe taking that into consideration before making comments like that in places like this would be great.
Thanks for understanding.
no like, i'm sorry, it was obviously a stupid comment that i'd not make if i put effort into not making stupid comments. you know i'll either be watching or playing and wishing the three of you luck, another zelda game will be neat (for people who like it) and clearly i know nothing about it whatsoever whether it'll be bad or good.
only the graphics will be bad!!!!! thank u very much I have learned my limits
"I, too, would prefer to know the Xalxe of my demise." - Felissan, 2022
- On this day in history: mundanity, and terror, and food, and love, and trees -
So I know this was probably meant as a joke based on what I know of the history of this comment and I know it wasn't directly aimed at me, but as this is my first LSG I am modding, and you have no idea what is going into it/how much work we are putting into it, I would appreciate you not saying negative stuff about it unless you have constructive criticism rather than it being just a "bad game". I have never once said anything negative about your games and I believe the first post in this thread confirms and backs up what I am saying in regards to being polite when giving feedback. I'm already semi nervous about hosting a game on MS for the first time and would appreciate some support.
Still <3 you bud, but maybe taking that into consideration before making comments like that in places like this would be great.
Thanks for understanding.
no like, i'm sorry, it was obviously a stupid comment that i'd not make if i put effort into not making stupid comments. you know i'll either be watching or playing and wishing the three of you luck, another zelda game will be neat (for people who like it) and clearly i know nothing about it whatsoever whether it'll be bad or good.
I figured as much Knowing you and knowing it was likely a joke. I appreciate the apology and thank you for the support ^_^
. This is a semi-anonymous game where 12 pairs compete as famous romantic couples from real life or works of fiction. Players will apply as part of a pair, or can apply as an individual and be paired up by PrivateI and myself for maximum romance. You are not required to be dating your partner. As the game is semi-anonymous, you'll know the identity of your partner, but you won't know you anyone else in the game is. In the end, one pair will win.
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Hi, I'd like to hire a co-mod someone that actually understands html stuff. I've got the board to a workable state, but I know it can be improved.
Will settle on anybody that actually gets my arse into having the game actually happen though.
(this is for survivor logical journey, it's been practically done for the last 3 years)
Holder of the Longest Continuous Weekly Mafiascum Post Record. 1 July 2012 - 16 Feb 2023
*It may be held by someone else if you discount the major downtime in 2012 and 2014, I'm not doing the research.
Survivor: RPG is a 20 player Survivor game where each player takes on a character that has a set of statistics. Challenges are performed based on those statistics rather than the normal puzzle and such methods used to resolve challenges. As a result, while challenge play is important, it won’t take much time from players. In addition, the method by which various actions happen is publicly known; however, players won’t know WHICH action has occurred. To put it another way, you’ll know there’s a chance of certain twists, of a merge happening with X players remaining, a tribe swap occurring on X day, and so forth. But you won’t know which was actually generated.
Statistics
The following are the statistics in the game: Balance, Strength, Endurance, Speed and Athleticism, Swimming Ability, Concentration, Spatial Puzzles, Word Puzzles, and Teamwork. In addition, there is an element called “Effort” which will be described later.
There have been 24 characters rolled up. Each character had 45 points assigned to the 9 statistic categories, 1-10. When selecting which characters appeal to you, you will see stats listed as Poor (1-3), Average (4-6) or Good (7-10). All characters have at least one Poor and one Good rating, but all characters have exactly 45 points distributed.
Each Challenge will be comprised of 1-4 stages. Each stage will use at least one statistic (and usually more) to determine how a tribe or individual performed on each stage (see Challenges section for more details).
Statistics are NOT created equally. Strength, Speed & Athleticism, and Teamwork will tend to come up more in early game challenges while Balance, Concentration, and Endurance will tend to come up more post-merge. All statistics are likely to come up at all stages though. Puzzles are important in any challenge that uses them. Additionally, take note of the Firemaking Challenge section.
Effort
Effort plays a crucial element in this game. Players start with 5 Effort to spend. Before any challenge, a player may spend effort points up to the amount they have saved up. This Effort will be added to all statistics in their challenge. The amount spent will be deducted from their saved Effort. Players may also choose to “spend” -3 effort to regain 1 effort for later.
Some challenges and events will return Effort to a player (e.g. a Reward challenge with food). Additionally, Effort can be used to bid on Characters during the application stage.
Characters
The following are the characters that may be selected in the game. Each tribe will start with 5 males and 5 females, so each tribe will NOT have 1 of each currently listed.
Red Tribe
Alejandro
Brooke
Cody
Daisy
Ezekiel
Felicity
George
Hailey
Ivan
Joanna
Kenneth
Lillian
Avatar
Balance
Average
Good
Average
Poor
Average
Average
Average
Poor
Good
Average
Good
Good
Strength
Good
Poor
Good
Average
Poor
Poor
Poor
Average
Average
Poor
Average
Poor
Endurance
Good
Poor
Good
Average
Poor
Average
Average
Average
Average
Average
Good
Good
Speed & Athleticism
Average
Average
Poor
Average
Good
Average
Average
Good
Good
Average
Poor
Average
Swimming Ability
Poor
Poor
Good
Poor
Good
Average
Average
Good
Average
Average
Good
Poor
Concentration
Poor
Good
Poor
Average
Average
Average
Good
Average
Poor
Good
Poor
Average
Spatial Puzzles
Average
Average
Average
Good
Good
Average
Good
Average
Average
Poor
Average
Poor
Word Puzzles
Average
Average
Poor
Good
Average
Good
Average
Average
Poor
Poor
Poor
Good
Teamwork
Average
Good
Average
Average
Average
Average
Average
Poor
Good
Good
Average
Average
Goods
2
3
3
2
3
1
2
2
3
2
3
3
Poors
2
3
3
2
2
1
1
2
2
3
3
3
Purple Tribe
Statistics
Marco
Nina
Oren
Priscilla
Quentin
Rebecca
Seth
Tessa
Ulysses
Viviana
William
Xanthippe
Avatar
Balance
Average
Good
Good
Good
Average
Average
Good
Average
Poor
Average
Poor
Average
Strength
Good
Poor
Poor
Poor
Good
Good
Average
Good
Average
Good
Good
Poor
Endurance
Average
Good
Average
Poor
Poor
Poor
Good
Poor
Average
Poor
Poor
Average
Speed & Athleticism
Average
Good
Good
Good
Average
Average
Good
Poor
Good
Good
Average
Good
Swimming Ability
Average
Average
Good
Poor
Average
Poor
Poor
Good
Average
Good
Good
Average
Concentration
Average
Average
Poor
Average
Poor
Average
Poor
Average
Good
Average
Average
Average
Spatial Puzzles
Good
Average
Average
Good
Poor
Average
Average
Good
Poor
Poor
Average
Average
Word Puzzles
Poor
Poor
Poor
Average
Average
Average
Average
Poor
Poor
Average
Average
Poor
Teamwork
Average
Average
Poor
Average
Good
Good
Poor
Poor
Average
Average
Poor
Good
Goods
2
3
3
3
2
2
3
3
2
3
2
2
Poors
1
2
4
3
3
2
3
4
3
2
3
2
Character Selection
Each Player upon applying will have the option to rank their preferred characters. They may spend Effort to increase their chances of getting a character they wish. You may bid 0, 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5 Effort. Those who bid higher than others will get their first picks. Among those who bid the same amount, people will get their choices in random order.
However much Effort you spend will be deducted from your Day 1 Effort (so if you bid 3, you’ll start with 2 Effort available to you).
Consider not just the statistics of the players you’re ranking but also how you feel about playing those characters and with/against other members of their tribe. You’ll notice that the Red Tribe and the Purple Tribe are composed of different “types” of Characters. The Red Tribe avatars were found by searching for their name in google image search and mostly finding law firm staff profiles. The Purple Tribe on the other hand, were searched with Google Image search by their name but more freewheeling choices were available. You’ll notice that some of them are fictional characters (Oren, Quentin, Xanthippe), some are royalty (William), and others died in the 1930s because as it turns out few people name their children Ulysses anymore.
Character Removal
One male and one female from each tribe will be removed and not played. This will be based on player demand for characters.
Challenges
There will be immunity challenges before every elimination. There will sometimes be reward challenges. Sometimes immunity challenges will also offer rewards.
Many challenges are in multiple stages and/or require multiple skills. Here’s how it works:
Each stage has skills assigned to it. Each skill within that stage has a relative weight. Challenges that use multiple people in the same stage will have the average of those individual’s stats.
Each stage has a relative importance, weighted. So if stage 1 requires crawling under a net and going over a balance beam before unknotting a key and handing it off to stage 2 where a massive puzzle is solved, Stage 1 might be weighted 30% and Stage 2 might be weighted 70%.
Each stage is resolved by taking the average of participants’ skills multiplied by the weighting factor for that stage to give X (rounded). Then a random number 1-X is generated and rolled twice, the sum of which is used as the stage’s final result.
Sometimes a player or team will have an advantage. In this case, the number is rolled twice again and the higher of the two sums is used. Sometimes a player or team will have a disadvantage and the number is rolled twice using the lower of the two sums.
Note that sometimes a stage will have a random skill. It will be listed and included the same way a skill is, but the number will be set at 5 for all tribes.
Spoiler: Example
Example
Survivors! In this challenge two of your tribe will (Stage 1) row a boat out to a buoy, untie puzzle pieces, row back and hand off the puzzle pieces to (Stage 2) one of your tribe will crawl under and over a series of nets and walls, handing the pieces to (Stage 3) the final two tribe members who will use the pieces to solve a puzzle of the logo.
Stage 1 with 2 participants (30%): Strength (.3), Endurance (.3), Concentration (.2), Teamwork (.2)
Stage 2 with 1 participant (15%): Swimming Ability (.7), Endurance (.3)
Stage 3 with 2 participants (55%): Spatial Puzzles (.7), Teamwork (.3)
Assume 0 Effort added or that effort is already added to the following example:
Then adjust for weights of each stage
Stage 1: A: 3*.3=.9, B: 9*.3=2.7
Stage 2: A: 12*.15=1.8, B: 5*.15=.75
Stage 3: A: 8*.55=4.4, B: 4*.55=2.2
Total A: .9+1.8+4.4=7.1
Total B: 2.7+.75+2.2=5.65
Ex. Tribe A Wins!
Please note that players will not see all the details of this calculation, which will occur on a spreadsheet. Players will see a short narrative interpretation of the numbers. It’s possible this will be very short if the mods are short on time or more detailed if we have a better chance to write it up.
Players will know the stats and weights for each challenge.
Challenge Creation
Challenges will be created AFTER procedural generation has occurred (so that we know how many tribes there are at each point).
Procedural Generation
All procedural generation in this section will occur before the game begins. The method of generation will be known to the players, but the results will not be. All procedural generation will occur on a mafiascum PT with dice and be revealed post-game.
Merge Chance
When the merge occurs is selected on the basis of the following percentages:
12 players remaining: 20%
11 players remaining: 30%
10 players remaining: 40%
9 players remaining: 10%
First Jury Member
After establishing when the merge will occur, use the following to determine the first jury member:
Spoiler: First Jury Member
If 12 or 11 at merge
Merge + 1 (person before merge) 0%
Merge + 0 (first player eliminated after merge): 40%
Merge - 1: 40%
Merge - 2: 20%
Merge - 3: 0%
If 10 at merge
Merge + 1 (person before merge) 2%
Merge + 0 (first player eliminated after merge): 50%
Merge - 1: 40%
Merge - 2: 8%
Merge - 3: 0%
If 9 at merge
Merge + 1 (person before merge) 50%
Merge + 0 (first player eliminated after merge): 50%
Merge - 1: 0%
Merge - 2: 0%
Merge - 3: 0%
Tribal Mixups
After each elimination, there is a X% chance of having a tribal mixup if the merge has not occurred yet.
If one tribe has over twice (so 7 and 3 but not 8 and 4) as many members as the smallest tribe, a remix will occur with 2 tribes.This is not procedurally generated and it will count as the LAST tribal mixup.
Type of Mixup Generation
When there is a mixup it can take multiple forms and there are several potential ways it can occur. When a mixup occurs, as many camps as there are already will remain the same and retain their potential advantages:
4 Tribe Mixup: If # left is 16 remaining: 40%, if # left is 12: 20%. Otherwise, 5% if 15 or over and 0% if 14 or under.
3 Tribe Mixup: If # left is 18 or 15: 50%, if # left is 12, 30%, otherwise 10% if over 12.
1 tribe mixup: 10% if 16 or over players, 5% if 15 players left, 0% if 14 or fewer players left. (special: 1 elimination after mixup giving 1 tribe, the possibility of a new mixup is 50%, 2 eliminations after is 75% 3+ eliminations is 95%)
2 tribe mixup: Whatever is remaining between 4, 3 and 1 tribe possibilities (e.g. 15 players remain, 100-5-50-10 for 35% chance).
Twist Generation
Players know the method of selecting twists and the twists possible but not which twists are added. First, two six sided dice are rolled. The sum of those two is the total number of “twist points” in the game, minus 2 (so a total of 0-10 twist points). Then all possible twists are given an ID number 1-X, where X is number of twists available. A 1-X dice is rolled and that ID number is added if that twist’s “twist points” are equal to or less than the number of twists left in the game, then that number is subtracted from the twist points available. If there are still twist points remaining, a 1-X dice is rolled again and the process repeats with the used twist removed from the list as well as any twists that cannot be chosen (because their cost is higher than X). This is done until either 4 twists have been added or it is not possible to add a twist with the number of twist points left/twists selected. Note: No more than 1 “Island” twist can be selected.
Players will not know the exact twists or the total twist points, but they will know whether the game is a Low, Medium or High Twist game. Low Twist = 0, 1, 2 or 3 (28% chance), Medium Twist = 4, 5 or 6 (44%), High Twist = 7, 8, 9 or 10 (28% chance)
Spoiler: Twists Possible
One Twist Point
Double Elimination - After voting out a member at Tribal council, it is announced there will be another double elimination. This will occur the first time it’s possible to do a second elimination without putting the tribe down by more than one player (so they enter the tribal council up at least 1 person).
Combined Tribal Council with Individual Immunity Challenge pre-merge. If
The winning tribe of a reward gets to send one of their own to the other tribe to spy on them rather than take place in the reward. The person sent cannot PM with their tribe, only the other one. They can then see all of the Tribal forums for the other tribe until the next immunity challenge. They still participate with their tribe at the immunity challenge.
Legacy Advantage
Kidnapping - Winning tribe of a reward gets to “steal” a player from the other tribe temporarily. That player will only be able to PM with the winning tribe and will see their camp. They will be unable to participate in the next elimination challenge but will not participate in TC or be able to be voted out.
Tribal Sit-in. The winning tribe(s) get to sit in (silently) on a Tribal Council.
Two Twist Points
Advantage Menu instead of immunity idol (Immunity Idol, Extra Vote, Steal Reward) - Replaces the tribal immunity idol. Must be played at the same time as an immunity idol would be
Schoolyard Pick for Second set of Tribes
Two players (one from each tribe) switch tribes
Extra Vote Advantage
Three Twist Points
Exile Island - At various points in the game, players will be sent to Exile Island. Each tribe will vote for a player from the other tribe to go to Exile Island (note: if this challenge is used, there will only be two tribes at any point). The two players sent will get to chat with each other but no one else. They will not participate in the next elimination challenge or TC.
First Reward Challenge allows winning tribe to steal a member of the other tribe and randomly sends a member of the winning tribe to the losing tribe.
Super Idol
Four Twist Points
(For One Elimination Only) No PMs Between a Tribal Elimination Challenge and Tribal Council for the losing Tribe
Vote out a Jury Member after Firemaking Challenge - A challenge establishes this. Only an option if there are 10 or more at the merge.
Five Twist Points
Edge of Extinction Island - Eliminated Players Go to the Edge of Extinction Island. There, they can chat among themselves as much as they want. Every 8 hours (so 3 times a day), they must submit a form with a few questions. If they do not do so, they are removed from the game. At the merge, all remaining players engage in a challenge. The winner joins the game with an idol that activates after one “unsafe” TC. Only exists if there are 11 or fewer at the merge.
(For One Elimination Only) Big Brother Day - Instead of Reward and then Immunity Challenge, there are two competitions: first to decide which tribe goes to TC. Then to decide who is the Head of Household. The winner of the second competition decides to put up two players for vote. At that point only those two players may be voted for in TC.
Six Twist Points
Final Two Instead - Surprise! It’s a final two and after the firemaking challenge the winner of the next challenge gets to take one of the other three to FTC.
(For all TCs) No PMs during TC. For the last 6 hours before the voting deadline, there are to be no PMs between players at TC. All communication must be done in the Tribal Council thread.
Seven Twist Points
Spectators Get a Jury Vote (revealed at merge) - The fan favorite among spectators counts as a Jury vote. Spectators won’t get a chance to question during FTC.
Ten Twist Points
A spectator (randomly chosen among willing spectators) will join the game when there are 10 remaining. They will get to choose among the discarded Characters. They will become a player and will no longer have access to Spectators other than their Confessional. They come in with an idol that must be used before SIX players are left.
Eleven Twist Points
It was all a dream - The game ceases and you wake up. Who would subject themselves to this?
Idol Hunt
The method for the idol hunt will be known upon game start, but it will not be shown yet so as not to give anyone any ideas about practicing.
Firemaking Challenge
When there are four players left, the winner of the immunity challenge will pick a player to join them in FTC. The remaining two players will make fire to be the third player. This firemaking challenge is based 100% on Concentration (and any effort you wish to spend).
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FAQ
Q: Will Spectators be allowed to talk to players in confessionals?
A: Yes!
Q: Should I pick a character or leave it up to fate?
A: I’d highly recommend at least looking and seeing if there any characters you’d like to play/don’t want to play.
Q: What’s the most important statistic
A: It depends on when you need to win! We've made an effort to use all of the stats at one point or another.
Q: Will Players know their character’s exact stats?
A: Yes!
Q: How much do I really need to know about how the game is run?
A: I’d try to understand the Effort mechanic well, but beyond that, you probably don’t need to know if you’re not that into game mechanics and just want to play some social survivor.
Q: How long will this game take?
A: I’m guessing it takes just over 2 months to play.
Q: What if I’m out of town for Survivormeet?
A: In the event of Survivormeet conflicting with our game, we are likely to put the game on hold or to slow the game down so that Survivormeet participants can still play in our game.
Q: Final Three?
A: Yes, unless the twist where a surprise Final two is rolled. Also, this is the modern “winner of the last immunity challenge picks one player to go and the other two do a firemaking challenge” thing.
In post 204, Malkon05 wrote:Xalxe, Xof, and I have finally settled on the theme idea for the bastard/complex game that we are planning ^_^
It will be Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild. Actual survivor game name TBD. Planning stages have begun.
GET HYPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *ROARS IN ULTRA HYLIAN HYPE*
So sadly, it appears that Xof and I are once again in need of a mod who can do image/graphics work. Also it would be nice to have someone who is interested in helping come up with challenges. We have a good chunk of this game design figured out, but implementing it is something we could use more help with. A reminder that this is a BASTARD level game and we need someone who will be willing to run that type of game with us.
If anyone is interested in being our third, please contact us here or on discord <3
In post 204, Malkon05 wrote:Xalxe, Xof, and I have finally settled on the theme idea for the bastard/complex game that we are planning ^_^
It will be Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild. Actual survivor game name TBD. Planning stages have begun.
GET HYPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *ROARS IN ULTRA HYLIAN HYPE*
So sadly, it appears that Xof and I are once again in need of a mod who can do image/graphics work. Also it would be nice to have someone who is interested in helping come up with challenges. We have a good chunk of this game design figured out, but implementing it is something we could use more help with. A reminder that this is a BASTARD level game and we need someone who will be willing to run that type of game with us.
If anyone is interested in being our third, please contact us here or on discord <3
CreativeMod1 will be taking this place. Thanks to people who reached out to offer.
Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
MattyP: Ur an enigma tho when it comes to circadian rhythm and the traditions we hold dear when it comes to the sun and the moon Get to reknow a xofelf here
Discord is faster than PMs or sitechat: xofelf#1697
We've only been planning it for the last 6 years, no big deal, it's fine.
Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
MattyP: Ur an enigma tho when it comes to circadian rhythm and the traditions we hold dear when it comes to the sun and the moon Get to reknow a xofelf here
Discord is faster than PMs or sitechat: xofelf#1697
Xalxe: this is xofelf sometimes we call each other names and other times we share emotions
Balance
Balance
