Mini Normal 2062: Erinnerungen (um game over)

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #1475 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:46 pm

In post 1472, u r a person 2 wrote:I want it out there that the bit from your morality scum win that you seemed most proud of was talking your way out of a guilty.

Okay, yes, I love that, but this is a soft guilty, not a hard guilty. Soft guilty’s are weak for my pride. Nah, that’s fine too, but it’s not the same as a hard guilty.

u r a person 2 · Post Post #1476 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:48 pm

I'm just saying that when insomnia flips red without an ability that would affect the results, and i've been night killed and confirmed, you should be the lynch.

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #1477 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:49 pm

In post 1476, u r a person 2 wrote:I'm just saying that when insomnia flips red without an ability that would affect the results, and i've been night killed and confirmed, you should be the lynch.

But...if L8’s town, we lose in that case.

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #1478 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:53 pm

I was far too incredibly specific with my crumbs for that to not be a thing.

And we’ve had a disloyal and a loyal claim already. The game’s around those.

Zulfy · Post Post #1479 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:56 pm

In post 1465, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 837, Flavor Leaf wrote:Yeah, I got confused about the technical breadcrumping stuff.

Or else I’d have been talking
v
ery accurately not instead lollygagging little A-person2, can’t only please.

I believe crumbing is okay, but technical crumbing isn’t a thing that generally comes up.

Look right here.

Look where I put a bolder V, right? It’s bolder.

Now take every first letter of every word after that.

Very
Accurately
Not
Instead
Lollygagging
Little
A-person2

Can’t
Only
Please

Vanilla Cop. I thought it was also decently obvious when you look back after my death.

This is exactly what I meant when I said technical breadcrumming was against the rules. Thin ice.

If it was anything more complex than this acronym I'd have to modkill your slot

u r a person 2 · Post Post #1480 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:00 pm

I don't understand why your first instinct is to assume i'm real.

I think you're just scum who thought you had me pocketed.

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #1481 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:07 pm

In post 1480, u r a person 2 wrote:I don't understand why your first instinct is to assume i'm real.

I think you're just scum who thought you had me pocketed.

No, I just have seen you as town since the beginning of the game, and there’s no way you’d have claimed that as scum to me with how pocketed you would have had me.

L84Dnr · Post Post #1482 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:07 pm

There might be scum rolestoppers but I'm doubting that they have a lot of PRs. Town's already fighting the numbers with 4 scum. Never second guess the Mod though.

Insomnia was my preferred lynch for today before URAP's news and I don't see any reason to change my mind now.

The only way to get URAP and Leaf's Night 2 results is if both of them were blocked. Seems unlikely. Or URAP and I could both be scum but I'll visit that world where Insomnia, Leaf and I are all town first.

Vanilla Cop is a good fake-claim. It lets you do some role-fishing along the way.

Speaking of which, what did you get Night 1 off of Burkenstock?

And Leaf's soft guilty is lacking a vote which doesn't make it look like he believes it.

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #1483 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:10 pm

It’s a soft guilty, and I had been claiming a PR all game

And Multitasking JOAT is a thing, i could have been rolestopped and jailed

Or Ura was jailed, and you’re scum.

Or Ura was jailed, and you were rolestopped.

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #1484 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:11 pm

Also, you say I get some claims from that claim?

I claimed a result on Burken, and a No Result on you. What would that matter?

L84Dnr · Post Post #1485 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:15 pm

In post 1483, Flavor Leaf wrote:It’s a soft guilty, and I had been claiming a PR all game

And Multitasking JOAT is a thing, i could have been rolestopped and jailed

Or Ura was jailed, and you’re scum.

Or Ura was jailed, and you were rolestopped.

In post 1484, Flavor Leaf wrote:Also, you say I get some claims from that claim?

I claimed a result on Burken, and a No Result on you. What would that matter?

u r a person 2 · Post Post #1486 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:16 pm

if this game is 4 scum with 3 cop abilities and scum abilities to fuck up those results

that's not a normal game by any reasonable definition. It's basically let's roll the dice and see if it fucks town or scum

L84Dnr · Post Post #1487 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:19 pm

EBWOP

In post 1483, Flavor Leaf wrote:It’s a soft guilty, and I had been claiming a PR all game

And Multitasking JOAT is a thing, i could have been rolestopped and jailed

Or Ura was jailed, and you’re scum.

Or Ura was jailed, and you were rolestopped.

There are a lot of ways it could have been mucked with. You and URAP2 on the same night seems unlikely though.

In post 1484, Flavor Leaf wrote:Also, you say I get some claims from that claim?

You do if somebody professes innocence by roleclaiming.

I claimed a result on Burken, and a No Result on you. What would that matter?

What was the result on Burkenstock?

u r a person 2 · Post Post #1488 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:20 pm

and one of those abilities was a vig on top like this would be the swingiest setup holy cow

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #1489 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:20 pm

In post 1485, L84Dnr wrote:
In post 1483, Flavor Leaf wrote:It’s a soft guilty, and I had been claiming a PR all game

And Multitasking JOAT is a thing, i could have been rolestopped and jailed

Or Ura was jailed, and you’re scum.

Or Ura was jailed, and you were rolestopped.

In post 1484, Flavor Leaf wrote:Also, you say I get some claims from that claim?

I claimed a result on Burken, and a No Result on you. What would that matter?

Oh, I was assuming Scum roles. I understand what you mean now. I wasn’t even thinking of a town role having those powers to claim if they were. Scum didnt even have to be the ones to block, I guess. I just didn’t think town would choose to block me.

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #1490 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:21 pm

In post 1487, L84Dnr wrote:EBWOP

In post 1483, Flavor Leaf wrote:It’s a soft guilty, and I had been claiming a PR all game

And Multitasking JOAT is a thing, i could have been rolestopped and jailed

Or Ura was jailed, and you’re scum.

Or Ura was jailed, and you were rolestopped.
There are a lot of ways it could have been mucked with. You and URAP2 on the same night seems unlikely though.

In post 1484, Flavor Leaf wrote:Also, you say I get some claims from that claim?
You do if somebody professes innocence by roleclaiming.

I claimed a result on Burken, and a No Result on you. What would that matter?
What was the result on Burkenstock?

I mean, I can give the read out...but the fact I got a read means he’s town.

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #1491 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:22 pm

He’s Vanilla. Burken wasn’t going to get killed anyways. Doesn’t matter if I out it

L84Dnr · Post Post #1492 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:23 pm

In post 1486, u r a person 2 wrote:if this game is 4 scum with 3 cop abilities and scum abilities to fuck up those results

that's not a normal game by any reasonable definition. It's basically let's roll the dice and see if it fucks town or scum

More likely town has/had some heavy PRs to make up for facing 4 scum. Scum might have a couple of light PRs, which might include a rolestopper or something similar but I'm thinking that a heavy scum PR or a lot of scum PRs is unlikely. We know that we have VTs so goons seem likely as balance.

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #1493 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:23 pm

In post 1486, u r a person 2 wrote:if this game is 4 scum with 3 cop abilities and scum abilities to fuck up those results

that's not a normal game by any reasonable definition. It's basically let's roll the dice and see if it fucks town or scum

Normal games have been pretty crazy lately. NK15 had a large normal a while ago with 3 multitasking JOATS.

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #1494 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:25 pm

In post 1492, L84Dnr wrote:
In post 1486, u r a person 2 wrote:if this game is 4 scum with 3 cop abilities and scum abilities to fuck up those results

that's not a normal game by any reasonable definition. It's basically let's roll the dice and see if it fucks town or scum
More likely town has/had some heavy PRs to make up for facing 4 scum. Scum might have a couple of light PRs, which might include a rolestopper or something similar but I'm thinking that a heavy scum PR or a lot of scum PRs is unlikely. We know that we have VTs so goons seem likely as balance.

So like one Multitasking JOAT.

URA could have just been blocked, and you’re just scum. I’m probably overthinking it.

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #1495 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:26 pm

ScumYou has to come at me because you have that soft guilty pressure on you.

L84Dnr · Post Post #1496 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:28 pm

Meh. Lynch Insomnia today. The flip will tell us something.

Leaf can try to read me again on Night 3. Should be interesting seeing as the three of us will be magnets for every PR out there.

L84Dnr · Post Post #1497 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:34 pm

In post 1495, Flavor Leaf wrote:ScumYou has to come at me because you have that soft guilty pressure on you.

TownMe will do the same. NAI.

Try rereading me Night 3. You'll be in your disloyal phase then so if I'm scum you'll get a read.

L84Dnr · Post Post #1498 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:37 pm

In post 1494, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1492, L84Dnr wrote:
In post 1486, u r a person 2 wrote:if this game is 4 scum with 3 cop abilities and scum abilities to fuck up those results

that's not a normal game by any reasonable definition. It's basically let's roll the dice and see if it fucks town or scum
More likely town has/had some heavy PRs to make up for facing 4 scum. Scum might have a couple of light PRs, which might include a rolestopper or something similar but I'm thinking that a heavy scum PR or a lot of scum PRs is unlikely. We know that we have VTs so goons seem likely as balance.
So like one Multitasking JOAT.

URA could have just been blocked, and you’re just scum. I’m probably overthinking it.

Even one multitasking JOAT would be a pretty imbalanced PR seeing as we're already facing 4 scum. Could be but seems unlikely.

L84Dnr · Post Post #1499 (ISO) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:56 pm

There are 9 living players: 3 scum and 6 town.

(1) Lynch Insomnia.
- If he flips green we're 3:4 MYLO and know that the rest of the results may well be tainted. At that point we have to rethink all the TPR results.
- If he flips red then we're 2:5 and we know that we have at least one untainted result from URAP2.

(2) If Insomnia flips red then we lynch Leaf.
- If he flips green the we're at 2:3 MYLO and know that some of the results are tainted.
- If he flips red then we're at 1:4 and we know his soft guilty is a lie. I could still be scum but that's a very interesting gambit that we have going.

(3) If Leaf flips green then we lynch me. It's unlikely that both Leaf and URAP2 got blocked on Night 2, so a town flip for Leaf makes the soft guilty on me a lot firmer.