Micro 861: BOP 2 Electric Boogaloo (Homie Victory!)

[Ankamius]

first

[Ankamius]

I was really hoping to be scum this game

I blame jingle

[Ankamius]

how much would you have hated me by the end of the game if we had rolled scum together LOOOOOOOOOOL

[Ankamius]

:3

[Ankamius]

I prefer scum nowadays

[Ankamius]

maybe :(

[Ankamius]

yes

100% serious rc

[Ankamius]

Ank is obvtown

what

[Ankamius]

Ank is obvtown

no, she's not

yes, she is

how

[Ankamius]

:V

yeeeeeeah... this is looking like scumduckling

[Ankamius]

is Nancy the only paragon atm?

[Ankamius]

are the homies scum

[Ankamius]

you sounded dead serious lol

[Ankamius]

okay duckling might actually be town then

[Ankamius]

where the fuck is enter

[Ankamius]

you have to be lynched as town for that!!!

[Ankamius]

you don't think I would be a lot more cautious than that duckling?

[Ankamius]

wait it is?

:thonk:

[Ankamius]

that's really interesting because caution is something I have as town too!

[Ankamius]

oh I barely remember anything about the postgame for that :S

[Ankamius]

I'd have a lower fluff:content ratio

[Ankamius]

pagetop +1

[Ankamius]

RC literally already answered that

[Ankamius]

wouldn't it be funny if we were all town and it was just enter + urap2

[Ankamius]

my reasons are my own

[Ankamius]

I think I'll have your alignment pegged correctly eventually RC

just do your thing and I'll get there eventually

[Ankamius]

enter is my highest priority read atm

[Ankamius]

:(

[Ankamius]

is my scumgame really that bad

[Ankamius]

:V

it's one of the few things I'm actually good at in this game

[Ankamius]

can you condense that enter

[Ankamius]

Urap makes classic scum posts as town and

afaik ank doesn't

:3

LOL

ARE YOU SERIOUS

[Ankamius]

I post the scummiest shit as town like every game

[Ankamius]

I don't think rc/duckling are a scumteam

[Ankamius]

his early townread of me is scum-indicative

but not confidently

[Ankamius]

I see. Should he not be townreading you?

I specifically tried to not look town on page one

he townread like everything I did anyways

[Ankamius]

:S

er...

[Ankamius]

enter you do realize I'm specifically commenting on your page 1 reads on me right?

[Ankamius]

duckling and rc both were scumreading my p1

what made my p1 town to you enter

[Ankamius]

UNVOTE:

enter you do realize I'm specifically commenting on your page 1 reads on me right?

wut

............................

[Ankamius]

his early townread of me is scum-indicative

but not confidently

I see. Should he not be townreading you?

I specifically tried to not look town on page one

he townread like everything I did anyways

[Ankamius]

what about my page 1 stuff was town-indicative

RC and duckling both did not townread anything I did on p1

[Ankamius]

that entire big post was a joke?

[Ankamius]

oh ffs he's right

WOW

fuck me I'm awful

[Ankamius]

I like Ank <3

<3

[Ankamius]

mmmmmmmm

I think I need to see urap2 posts to call any specific slot scum

[Ankamius]

ftr I have a 0% readrate on duckling so he's probably scum because I'm lazy

[Ankamius]

I see. Should he not be townreading you?

I specifically tried to not look town on page one

he townread like everything I did anyways

guess
who
also
specifically
tries
not
to
look
town
on
page
1


we've ahd this discussion out of game

a million times

have i ever read you wrong

also uh

to those who didn't already know this

he literally pegged like 6-7 parts of my personality like... 4 days after meeting me

I'd expect him to locktown me at some point here

[Ankamius]

I don't like that sniping tbh

[Ankamius]

urap2
hasn't
even
posted
yet

why are we talking about lynches

[Ankamius]

why did you not answer my question in that mini normal :(

[Ankamius]

you said morality was 5th best

I asked who the other 4 were

[Ankamius]

2nd

[Ankamius]

inb4 it's one I already have pegged

[Ankamius]

top scumplayers on site

[Ankamius]

I had her and jingle pegged

agnaweoitnasmkdt

[Ankamius]

average skill level of towns over time since 2013?

[Ankamius]

now I'm even more curious...

[Ankamius]

permanent winter or permanent summer?

[Ankamius]

I cycle between below average and terrible

[Ankamius]

You're crazy good town tho ank

I've been getting consistently worse since early 2018

[Ankamius]

how do you even reads d1

wtf

[Ankamius]

that's my scumgame, enter

my towngame cycles between very good and abysmal

[Ankamius]

I'm legit spooked about rolling scum against you atm

I've never read you correctly :V

[Ankamius]

If I slank even the slightest on D1 everyone lynches me

does this actually happen

I can't remember the last time you got lynched in one of my games

except biochemistry which you were mechanically caught

[Ankamius]

I've never played with her :V

[Ankamius]

You should read the games that I played on MU

Powertunneled scum in all of them, got lynched in all of them

uhhhhhh

that's not a very good endorsement of mu

[Ankamius]

alright here's the $1000000 question

how do people read you properly

:thonk:

[Ankamius]

sure

[Ankamius]

yes

and yes

[Ankamius]

huh.

I go over the macro points in my games and what I could've changed about my mindset to reach the right answers but that's about it

maybe that's why I ended up playing like this :V

[Ankamius]

if I could fake nuance properly I feel like my scum winrate would probably go up like 20%

[Ankamius]

oooooh are we going into your tells for us :3

[Ankamius]

YEAH JINGLE

[Ankamius]

I read RC by how he affects the gamestate :V

[Ankamius]

uhhhhhhh

ngl idk how to read this back and forth

[Ankamius]

Duckling have you gotten more jaded over time

[Ankamius]

it just clicked

duckling might be scum

[Ankamius]

sorry

[Ankamius]

I don't think it's ai for either side

lol

[Ankamius]

....

sigh

[Ankamius]

why

[Ankamius]

:V

never thought RC would ever use my real name in a post

[Ankamius]

funny thing is

I was originally paragon too

[Ankamius]

I'd be very amused as scum atm

[Ankamius]

idk

probably anyone

[Ankamius]

Have I ever read you correctly?

Who

[Ankamius]

Uhhhhhh

You didn't play in police academy
You had a scumread on me for my entire time in heroes wanted
You had a townread on me until you got lollynched in FAs game
You... I think townread me in Necromancer until I started scumreading you

[Ankamius]

Wow I think we have a 0% on each other

That's incredible

[Ankamius]

Me neither!

[Ankamius]

I'm doubting my scumread

Meh

[Ankamius]

My duckling scumread

I don't think I'm out of my scum range yet duckling

[Ankamius]

yes

[Ankamius]

I'm on the edge of my seat now

[Ankamius]

Jingle

[Ankamius]

duckling's voice is majestic as hell

[Ankamius]

I think urap2 is scum#1

[Ankamius]

when's the wedding?

[Ankamius]

duckling what did you do...

[Ankamius]

sigh

I really should be sleeping atm

[Ankamius]

later game is my job

[Ankamius]

oh that's a tell for me too!!!!

if I'm lynchable, I'm scum!

[Ankamius]

I've decided that I should probably sleep

SPOILERS

[Ankamius]

ngl I think his thoughts about that entire scenario are really really scummy

[Ankamius]

I'm p sure rc is still scumreading me

[Ankamius]

aorn?

[Ankamius]

you know how I feel about sheeping :3

[Ankamius]

maybe I won't vote at all until the entire lobby has me locktowned

[Ankamius]

wow duckling kicked me

wtf

[Ankamius]

I don't sheep unless I absolutely have to or have a very very good reason to

generally I only do it when I need the info from whatever wagon I'm joining

[Ankamius]

is it duckling

[Ankamius]

not really

I'd be sad if I lynched townhim

[Ankamius]

that's as either alignment btw

[Ankamius]

probably scum

[Ankamius]

eh...

I'm kinda leaning town actually

originally his tone felt wooden but it's been better lately

[Ankamius]

if there's scum in that bizarro enter/duck exchange it's probably enter I think

[Ankamius]

if it is

I think it will be obvious before too long lol

[Ankamius]

what?

[Ankamius]

......

UNVOTE:

[Ankamius]

you're the safest slot to shelve until I have to form a read on you

and currently it's looking like urapscum + one of enter/duckling so

[Ankamius]

duckling

how would you ever tell those two scenarios apart

[Ankamius]

ally make me townread you :(

I think I'd have to actually analyze for that lol

[Ankamius]

like I can see enter-town and enter-scum getting into that fight

the problem is that now that I think about it, the way he disengaged felt... town to me, I don't think it would've been the way he'd disengage if it was a fake engagement

but... it feels embellished too :V

[Ankamius]

I've seen enter get into fights like that but there's been a reason for it every time I've seen it

that was random as fuck

[Ankamius]

he just abruptly cut it off without any change in tone whatsoever

and then he legitimately STAYED not here when he said he was leaving

I think if he was faking it, he would've realized he went too far and his tone would've shifted

if he embellished it, his tone would've shifted

his tone did not shift

[Ankamius]

I don't get it

[Ankamius]

Ok

How does that relate to here

[Ankamius]

I'm a strategist, not a tactician scum urap2

[Ankamius]

idk how I feel about policy townreads on me

[Ankamius]

nope

and the tone thing is a personality read

[Ankamius]

I'm a planner, not an actor

[Ankamius]

I play scum like most people do town
I play town like most people do scum

[Ankamius]

Would I be on your top 5 if I could play scum like I play town

[Ankamius]

I'm a planner, not an actor

i think you are this as town too, this is what i was describing

:V

I'm a much better actor as town

[Ankamius]

:V

[Ankamius]

This debate

Is not natural

[Ankamius]

Same

[Ankamius]

Same

[Ankamius]

I'm gonna meditate on how nice it's going to feel to be asleep

[Ankamius]

you're leaning town
duckling is leaning town
enter is nullish very very slightly scum
urap is moderately scum

[Ankamius]

The engagements you're in feel the least slimy

[Ankamius]

Like I feel like if you're scum it almost has to be with duckling atm so

[Ankamius]

I was going into this game hoping it was us 2 duckling

[Ankamius]

I've been scum with enter and RC before

And even at the same time!!!!

[Ankamius]

Even if RC was vigged 20 seconds after day start

[Ankamius]

Idk why but I fucking lost it at that

God damn it duckling I'm trying to wind down here

[Ankamius]

Ok now I'm confused at your read of me

[Ankamius]

Now I'm even more confused at your read of me!

[Ankamius]

Particularly when she's basically said she's sheeping me

so refusing to vote one of her claimed wolfreads would stick out like a sore thumb

I still don't townread her play at all for whatever reason but you have a point that her keeping up in postcount seems at least somewhat villagery

Still subject to change obviously

what

[Ankamius]

i do legitimately not see a way ank flips scum

what

[Ankamius]

What exchange

[Ankamius]

That helps

Also should I keep this avatar

[Ankamius]

Damn

[Ankamius]

Is Auro going to catch me? :(

[Ankamius]

Who? Me?

[Ankamius]

The spoiler is automatic when you have too many lines.

[Ankamius]

.

[Ankamius]

pagetop

pedit: aww
pedit: aww

[Ankamius]

hi :3

[Ankamius]

so how's life rc

did you meet any interesting people today or find any buried treasure in the desert

[Ankamius]

did anyone hear a chirp?

[Ankamius]

How do you like it so far?

[Ankamius]

It's a... gamecube game? I don't remember :V

[Ankamius]

you have duckling locktowned?

[Ankamius]

convince me?

[Ankamius]

approach
thought processes
gamestate

etc.

those kinds of arguments resonate with me the easiest

[Ankamius]

do you think enter's locktown read on me is fake?

[Ankamius]

I should probably rephrase

do you think that it's reasonable?

[Ankamius]

Basically I trust enter to spew himself town if he's not town

what?

[Ankamius]

ok I'll sit too :D

[Ankamius]

I think maybe I need to start taking notes about this game :V

[Ankamius]

lol

that's actually really funny

[Ankamius]

should I just dump my head in here

I'd have to actually read the thread for that

[Ankamius]

ugggggggggggggggggggggggggggh

fine

I'll put off learning how oil works in factorio for another day

I'll get reading

[Ankamius]

I need to learn how to take notes properly

[Ankamius]

Spoiler:

tw: well this is a wash, let's just get this game over with

forgot I was in for this game tbh so ya p much

Sorry tw that jingle was this mean to you

We never roll same alignment huh

Are you claiming scum?

:V

yeeeeeeah... this is looking like scumduckling

your Ankamius townread was out of nowhere and I'd consider both of you to have above zero reasons to scumread over townread

If ur town you should change tac :c

So we can lynch RC and all win d1
ez game

I hate that both of you know me really well and neither of you were like "the worst's ankamius townread is very fucking obviously a shitpost" jfc

I still think this is tonally off

[Ankamius]

Duck what are your actual thoughts on ankaymius

opening v faintly wolfy and I strongly dislike her positioning me as scum given she should know my sense of humour

net w

this feels fake too now that I read my own progression on that read

[Ankamius]

mmm not strongly, ank looks worse than you for biting down on my loltownread

this also doesn't really fit with my progression on that read

PEdit: duckling's

[Ankamius]

like if duckling is scum this game, he fucked up big time in the first 3 pages of the game

[Ankamius]

if you're town how would scum!you have handled this game so far differently?

I'd have a lower fluff:content ratio

I'm going to meditate on whether that's town or scum indicative

RC what did you scumread about Ank page 1?

Pure gut/tone. Still scumread ank on pure gut/tone.

ya same

I've got some good news

???

[Ankamius]

and with ank casing tw, I think that sets your dichotomy pretty well and leaves you with the hammer

well done

did you read

or are you just assuming I'm specifically casing tw

[Ankamius]

wouldn't it be funny if we were all town and it was just enter + urap2

Ankamius are you trying to scum post to reaction test me or are you just scum posting asking for a friend

wouldn't it be funny if we were all town and it was just enter + urap2

I would love that so much but it would also ruin my rc+ank bread bet

wouldn't it be funny if we were all town and it was just enter + urap2

Like this is a

classic

scum post

I can't shake the feeling that there was a wolf in that conversation earlier

awkward transition

[Ankamius]

RC/TW posting is not SvS

[Ankamius]

Enter should I be reading into nuance of #114 at all

[Ankamius]

RC/TW posting is not SvS

ok. Are you saying that you think these posts are scum-indicative for RC, then? Lead me to water, mate.

no

I could see TvT: RC trying to sort TW early and TW mostly trolling around
I could see TvS: RC trying to sort TW early and TW tripping over himself interacting with RC
I could see SvT: RC positioning around TW while TW trolls around

but I feel like the interactions here would look a lot less weird if they were scum together or that they wouldn't go this hard on interacting between themselves

it's something to maybe visit later if there's other evidence for this pairing being possible but I don't really think it's a likely approach for a RC/TW scumteam

[Ankamius]

can you condense that enter

yes
you're town

duck backtracked on what was a good read and that's bad

rc is posting weird and i like it

duck and rc are scum

noting that after looking at the wall again, enter agreed I was obvtown on page one and said duckling was bad for going back on that (I assume this is the source of the scumread???)

that's not the type of reasoning that reaches ducklingscum

[Ankamius]

how are RC/me the scumteam ever

this is obfuscating associatives if ducklingscum

[Ankamius]

his early townread of me is scum-indicative

but not confidently

[Ankamius]

I see. Should he not be townreading you?

I specifically tried to not look town on page one

he townread like everything I did anyways

guess
who
also
specifically
tries
not
to
look
town
on
page
1


we've ahd this discussion out of game

a million times

have i ever read you wrong

this can look pockety I think

[Ankamius]

ank might be scum

based on her misrepping me

this is overkill

[Ankamius]

Entrée/Ank t/s

this is scum-indicative if this is a lot of what duckling focuses on for the next several pages

[Ankamius]

i take back this game going to 100 pages

VOTE: ank

enter you do realize I'm specifically commenting on your page 1 reads on me right?

this kinda feels SvS to me but maybe I'm wrong :?:

I don't think these two as scum flail at each other in the wolfiest fucking possible way

Spicy

Can you not do that?

duckling and rc both were scumreading my p1

what made my p1 town to you enter

UNVOTE:

enter you do realize I'm specifically commenting on your page 1 reads on me right?

wut

this reversal is... bizarre

[Ankamius]

I was really hoping to be scum this game

I blame jingle

this is the only thing i townread

and it's because

you claimed
town...

also that post wasn't serious

???

this progression is off

[Ankamius]

that entire big post was a joke?

you didn't see me call everyone town and then scum immediately afterwards?

eh...

I feel like townenter would have transitioned away from that in a less glaring way

[Ankamius]

I have a question duck

Why should I townread you fypov?

I'm sorting harder than I can as scum. I think my timing on Ank read progression and Entrée/Ank t/s call are probably a little bolder than I am as scum.

My call on you so far comes from me as either alignment

I can kinda buy this?

I feel like there's something wrong with how he's saying this but I can't find it atm

[Ankamius]

I see. Should he not be townreading you?

I specifically tried to not look town on page one

he townread like everything I did anyways

guess
who
also
specifically
tries
not
to
look
town
on
page
1


we've ahd this discussion out of game

a million times

have i ever read you wrong

also uh

to those who didn't already know this

he literally pegged like 6-7 parts of my personality like... 4 days after meeting me

I'd expect him to locktown me at some point here

timing of this read is very important

I don't think scumEnter would ever be able to time this correctly

[Ankamius]

not to be picky or whatever...


didn't y'all try that last game?

My top SR was scum

And yeah Shoshin was scum. Too bad I unvoted huh.

yeah

really disappointing, actually

maybe we should lynch ank

progression from line to line is... iffy

[Ankamius]

overfocusing on who was the more amazing town in your last game is accomplishing nothing but shitting on this game

overfocusing on who was the more amazing town in your last game is accomplishing nothing but shitting on this game

getting stressed over discussion in last game

is stressing me out and getting me worked up

if you have a legit problem w/ it say so

otherwise just let us talk and fucking relax

NOT ME I'M A MAD DUCKLING

I'm probably getting more irritated at it than is warranted, I'll bbl

this could potentially be an aborted SvS interaction

Enter specifically sniped at duckling here and had much more reserved responses to everything else he was responding to
I could see duckling not thinking that this fight is a good idea (probably too much potential SvS spew in that specific case) and leaving it quickly

also probably TvS in either direction if it's not SvS, this interaction is just too unnatural to be TvT I think

[Ankamius]

Town!Enter's progression isn't always totally smooth. Do you get bleeding heart energy from him or do you think he's bullshitting?

I think he's bullshitting

[Ankamius]

My biggest fear is being read incorrectly
so I scum tell in all my scum games (as far as I can remember)
almost intentionally but it's also based on the attitude I have when playing scum

the easiest way to read me is to actually read what i'm saying/doing, though, instead of my posts

duck thinks he can tone tell me but he just always thinks i'm scum

:thonk: