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What differentiates Fuscosco from Something Smart to you?In post 19, HitAlt wrote:I've seen this from scum quite a bit.
Voting themselves rather than trying to pick a random target.
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I’m confused here. He self-voted in response to someone making what was really an NAI play?In post 28, RCEnigma wrote:
He just did this as scum in a game where someone else replicated a recent scum opening and was townread for it. They were town but that isn't the point.In post 26, Ausuka wrote:hi
VOTE: rcenigma
rce can you please elaborate on what about SS's opening was wolfy to you?
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I like this post.In post 50, Umlaut wrote:
I assume scum pay some attention to what their buddies are doing. Fuscosco isn't going to duplicate your self-vote, and HitAlt isn't going to fail to notice that you made one. I guess in the latter case he could just be lying, but I don't think that's what's happening.In post 46, Something_Smart wrote:
That's a bold move, Cotton.In post 45, Umlaut wrote:S_S and Fuscosco are obviously not scum together. Likewise S_S and HitAlt.
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It’s ok cuz I copied your :thonk: on purpose.In post 70, Something_Smart wrote:Just realized that I accidentally copied Alchemist's meme lul.- Alchemist21
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I think it’s more Towny than sound but it’s a bit of both. I disagree on his point about the duplicated self-vote but agree with his point about scum paying attention to their partners’ posts. Even though I disagree with the first point though I do see where he’s coming from and think it’s a Towny train of thought to have.In post 73, Something_Smart wrote:Hey Alchemist can you talk about why you liked 50? I'm not sure how I feel about it.
Do you think it's towny, or do you think it's sound, or both?- Alchemist21
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That’s the point I’m agreeing with.In post 93, Umlaut wrote:
What about the point re. S_S+HitAlt?In post 79, Alchemist21 wrote:I think it’s more Towny than sound but it’s a bit of both. I disagree on his point about the duplicated self-vote but agree with his point about scum paying attention to their partners’ posts.- Alchemist21
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Why did you say this but then unvote? This sounds like you’re still trying to call hitalt scummy but while also backing off.In post 128, Baezu wrote:I’m actually neither of these things, but isn’t it funny that your posting goes up exponentially once you’re actually targeted?!- Alchemist21
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I can’t tell if this vote is supposed to be serious or not.In post 146, Baezu wrote:
I agree - that slot is looking scummier by the second...In post 141, RCEnigma wrote:
All the gas we needed to get this wagon rolling.In post 139, Something_Smart wrote:
He's been confscum since 133In post 137, Vorkuta wrote:Are you conf!town yet? Or will it take like 5 more posts until you reach that conclusion?
VOTE: flavorleaf- Alchemist21
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I don’t see how you get the LAMIST thing from what they said. Low-confidence reads also exist. The only part of this post that could make sense to me is the last part about answering someone else’s question, but I don’t understand where you see scum intent there. How would that have been an attempt for hitalt to clear his name? Also who are they buddying in this case, me or RCE?In post 193, SIV36 wrote:
Below is what I had noted at the time. For some reason, I thought I had more.In post 102, Ausuka wrote:
What are these red flags?In post 100, SIV36 wrote:I've noted a number of red flags coming from hitalt more than other players.
I would have probably looked over this easily, but then HitAlt tacks on at the end "It might help me understand you better", which struck a LAMIST chord with me. A normal town seeking to understand someone's previous identity wouldn't try steering the town's perception that it's a scum-hunting intent.In post 39, HitAlt wrote:@Fuscosco - are you an alt, or new on site?Might help me understand you better.
I haven't played this game very often, but from what I've observed so far, town-players tend to fall prey to a dunning-kruger effect. I'm suspecting that if a town player has a lot of information on someone, their confidence in their read would be really high. Having a low confidence read like above really doesn't make sense to me.In post 49, HitAlt wrote:Btw, I have seen Something_Smart both as scum and as town before, and I have to admit that I can not read their tone correctly. Ever.
(maybe i'm reading too far into this one.)
This is a personal quirky read, so I apologize if this read seems really weak.In post 42, HitAlt wrote:
If I understood him correctly, he means that S_S selfvoted as scum in aIn post 37, Alchemist21 wrote:I’m confused here. He self-voted in response to someone making what was really an NAI play?
Alchemist was drilling RCE that question. HitAlt wooshes in offering a helpful answer of his own. In my experience, I keep confirming scum wooshing in to other people's Q+A's.
It's hard for me to empathize with this because as town, I see the importance of people sticking up for themselves above anything. Because answers to these questions provide a lot of information. When mafia wooshes in, it seems like they want more spotlight on them so they can clear their name. Maybe there's a slight buddying bent in there also.- Alchemist21
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Have we ever played together on your main?In post 259, Fuscosco wrote:Id like to think its only a matter of time before somebody nails my main down. Or maybe not, since I was common but not incredibly well-known. I have the day off, so Ill read up this afternoon. I should be sleeping.- Alchemist21
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In post 262, Fuscosco wrote:. . . I am pretty sure we did. a few times?
I’m only going try one guess here.In post 263, Fuscosco wrote:Twice
Was your main All Alone?- Alchemist21
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You did? Right before he replaced out he made a significant post answering my questions so I didn’t grt the sense they were avoiding pressure.In post 391, RCEnigma wrote:
You didn't read it as tactical? That...surprises me actually.In post 389, Alchemist21 wrote:Why do you think you made Siv leave? The replace-out seemed pretty random to me.- Alchemist21
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About the same as they were before but added Townleans to Slaxx and Fuscosco.In post 417, Ausuka wrote:Alchemist how are your reads looking right now?- Alchemist21
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I don’t get it. It looked like you wanted to pressure the slot when SIV was in it, so what’s different about Slaxx?In post 538, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Just because I think he’s 100% scum doesn’t mean he’s scum.In post 536, Baezu wrote:FL- why don’t you want to vote slaxx?
I don’t think pushing him right now does anything but creates tunnel vision for me alongside giving him ample fire to react to me against and create a TvT cover that people dont want to go through, so it doesn’t do anyone any good.- Alchemist21
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You said you weren’t going to push him. If anything that takes away pressure instead of applying it. I’m not sure why you’re scumreading the slot anyway outside of the cologne thing. Where was that going?In post 546, Flavor Leaf wrote:
To let him know I mean business.In post 545, Alchemist21 wrote:So then why aren’t you trying to figure out slaxx’s reasoning?
Like you even had a vote on Slaxx then dropped it because???
Slaxx is very much feeling the pressure, and if you happen to be his partner, you are directly hatcheting me right now to try and have any momentum I could gain chopped prematurely.
Do I think that’s happening? No, but I am taking a mental image of this interaction. I’ll be doing this throughout the game, and then I’ll put the images next to each other and see the out of context images and see who, in hindsight, is scum.
Also, by choosing to not push Slaxx, yet making sure my thoughts are known makes me a prime target for accusations, which allows me to sift through people who will come at me directly.
Why does my vote have to be on someone to pressure them? It’s not like I don’t say what’s on my mind.- Alchemist21
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Wtf
How does that sentence relate to the vote on RCE?- Alchemist21
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Hi I’m Al.In post 641, Vedith wrote:Omg hi I'm so excited to finally play a game of Mafia.
My name is Vedith and I don't know any player here.
Dann is my best friend IRL so expect some biased modding.- Alchemist21
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Why did you ask about his own slot’s posts specifically though? It’s the least useful to comment on his own slot for generating reads here.In post 658, Baezu wrote:
I’d like him to comment on anything at all- this meh attitude is not helpful to townIn post 656, Alchemist21 wrote:Baezu why do you think Vedith needs to comment on his own slot’s posts?- Alchemist21
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This right here. I always imagine people looking how their avatars look and I’ve also been forgetting Baezu is a she.In post 753, Slaxx wrote:I think it’s the boy avatar, I sometimes do that with guys with women avatars.- Alchemist21
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How confident are you in this read?
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Oh shit. Was my hatcheting FL earlier in the game all for naught? Oh well.In post 1048, volxen wrote:
Damn FL, you caught all of us quite quickly! And here I thought your scum game was stronger than your town game. Well done.In post 1047, Flavor Leaf wrote:The scum team is clearly Mustang, Volxen, and RCEnigma. Something can take the spot of RCE potentially, though
Looks like we are finished Alch and RCE. Oh well.- Alchemist21
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Idk slaxx. He seems like he’s accepted his lynch and it comes off as Towny to me. Unless you think this is a ploy hoping that something happens in the next 3 days to shift attention away from him I don’t think he’s flipping red and everyone seems to be in agreement about not risking a PR claim by wagoning someone else. 3 more days couldn’t hurt if he’s getting flipped anyway.- Alchemist21
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I disagree. Sometimes you can read a slot based on how wagons formed in them or around them. Easy wagon that stalled out and no counterwagon formed? Very likely Town with scum feeling comfortable in their position (or lurking).
Ausuka’s last vote on Baezu felt like it had a large OMGUS component to it since they kept pointing to 1159 as a good reason to sr them despite earlier posts, though it can’t be 100% of the reason since he didn’t seem to be bothered by Vedith’s post that 1159 is agreeing with.- Alchemist21
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In post 1189, RCEnigma wrote:Volxen is town, Ausuka is town, FL is town and scum biased but he'll figure it out. Alchemist would have been a way better Lynch today.
I really don’t like these posts. The lack of commitment makes me think RCE’a scum waiting for some Town approval to actually push this instead of taking the initiative. This is while he still has a vote on Volxen.In post 1193, RCEnigma wrote:...literally Alchemist or Vedith. I think Fusco is town for today and while I can go for an SS Lynch I don't think it outweighs what info we gain from other lynches.
Never getting my support to Lynch Ausuka today, scum can go back to the drawing board on it.
VOTE: RCEnigma
P-edit: I’m not against a fus wagon but this is a better choice to me.- Alchemist21
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Big if true.In post 1394, Ausuka wrote:Also I'm a town 1 shot investigative and I have a result on somebody which I'll out later today.
@Baezu I think we'll lynch scum today so don't worry.- Alchemist21
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Same. I feel like he was the only one who really got me.In post 1399, Baezu wrote:My two biggest town reads are gone and it’s frustrating...very frustrating
Especially Slaxx, fuck I’ll miss his input this game- Alchemist21
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The macho modifier implies a Doc exists. TownAusuka is safe for as long as the Doc lives.In post 1423, Fuscosco wrote:i mean, fyi ausuka claiming 1shot at daybreak and claiming a juicy find is going to get scumher killed and townher nked either way- Alchemist21
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Scum would want to kill confTown whenever they can.In post 1427, Vorkuta wrote:@Fus: Ausuka is 1-shot, which means after tonight she's just conf!town for all intents and purposes, so why would scum NK a ""VT"" when there are other PRs in play (like the Doc that Macho Implies, or FL, or... yeah)
Also- I don't know if I should be bringing this up, but is there still the chance for a 2 scum team this game?
Also I'm sorry- I can't resist.
ENGLISHIn post 1424, Flavor Leaf wrote:soft hard guiltymfDO YOU SPEAK IT??
Could be a legit traitor crumb that you’re trying to pass off as a Town gambit. Talking about failed gambits from the past doesn’t do anything to prove your alignment in this one.In post 1428, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Here.In post 801, Flavor Leaf wrote:Or we could Tradeour horror stories of failed town gambits. I have loads.
I put tradeour like traitor together, and I capitalized the T so it stood out.
I also stated “failed town gambits” in the same post, I have loads, implying I’ve been actively pulling a town gambit game.- Alchemist21
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No, you just spouted bullshit in an attempt to push me. You came in this Day phase thinking you could get an easy push on me (already a bad idea) and did it in the worst way possible.In post 1432, Flavor Leaf wrote:Important
I think Alchemist essentially scum claimed and implied Ausuka is actually town with the 1 shot.
I claimed a guilty on Ausuka but voted Alchemist to bait Alchemist. Him knowing Ausuka is town had him go after me, which gives credence towards TownAusuka, but allows for Ausuka to be mislynched.
I am not actually an investigative; that was a gambit. I’m day 3 IC.- Alchemist21
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Scum. If I thought he was just wrong Town I wouldn’t vote him.In post 1440, Vorkuta wrote:@Alch- Is FL wrong!town or scum?
@FL- for this gambit to "work"... you need the real-time interaction with Alch yes? (like RCE hasn't reported in)
Idk I can't keep up. When my Fus wagon fails I'll probably sheep you unless something else happens, but I'd like to be spoonfed in the time being.- Alchemist21
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Me not being a heavy poster is exactly why I think you saw me as an easy push.In post 1441, Flavor Leaf wrote:Also, Alchemist hasn’t been a heavy poster this game yet he just happens to be here RIGHT when I do that gambit?- Alchemist21
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Won’t matter after you flip red today.In post 1443, Flavor Leaf wrote:
I guess when I flip IC tomorrow this line of thinking won’t even matter, right?In post 1442, Alchemist21 wrote:
Scum. If I thought he was just wrong Town I wouldn’t vote him.In post 1440, Vorkuta wrote:@Alch- Is FL wrong!town or scum?
@FL- for this gambit to "work"... you need the real-time interaction with Alch yes? (like RCE hasn't reported in)
Idk I can't keep up. When my Fus wagon fails I'll probably sheep you unless something else happens, but I'd like to be spoonfed in the time being.
Yeah that hatchet line was also bullshit and rightfully made fun of as such.In post 1445, Flavor Leaf wrote:I even called him out for chainsawing me, then called him out end of the day that it didn’t make sense for ScumAlchemist to be bussing Volxen, but he wasn’t bussing; Volxen was town.- Alchemist21
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I know and there’s 1 game I remember playing with you on that account.In post 1451, Flavor Leaf wrote:
I’m Boonskiies.In post 1450, Alchemist21 wrote:How many games do we even have together? I can only recall two and didn’t think I had left a strong impression on anyone in at least the Town one and I was scum in the second. And I never said you said I wasn’t a strong player, that’s what I think how scum would see me after D1.- Alchemist21
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I think I did play some games you modded too. Maybe that’s where you’re coming from?In post 1452, Flavor Leaf wrote:I can’t actually recall how many games we’ve played, but I know we have played games years back.- Alchemist21
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