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Post Post #4 (isolation #0) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:47 am

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VOTE: rc

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Post Post #9 (isolation #1) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:54 am

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Prod dodge
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Post Post #11 (isolation #2) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:56 am

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In post 6, Mohab500 wrote:Already have some ideas of who is scum just from these two posts, few more posts should put the nail in the coffin after some more intense text analysis.
Well it's not me
In post 10, Flavor Leaf wrote:Prodge.
This game is gonna be a long one if we've already got two players prod dodging.
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Post Post #22 (isolation #3) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:01 pm

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VOTE: Mohab500
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Post Post #23 (isolation #4) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:03 pm

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In post 6, Mohab500 wrote:Already have some ideas of who is scum just from these two posts, few more posts should put the nail in the coffin after some more intense text analysis.
In post 8, Mohab500 wrote:Figured out a PR from analyzing the text in that post, thanks!
What is this ISO?

Please vote this with me.
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Post Post #26 (isolation #5) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:05 pm

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Also figured I should point out that directing Night Actions in my direction is a bad idea.
PenguinPower wrote:Have you played with Mohab before?
No, have you?
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Post Post #28 (isolation #6) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:05 pm

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Did you enjoy it?
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Post Post #30 (isolation #7) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:07 pm

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In post 29, PenguinPower wrote:Also went through the Newbie queue and all..

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Not particularly. Doesn't make him scum. So, what was it that was scummy?
Nothing, particularly. I wasn't really being serious.

I do like it when people vote during RVS, however, and he didn't.
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Post Post #32 (isolation #8) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:10 pm

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In post 31, PenguinPower wrote:tbf he self-hammered as a town PR...so...yeah. I definitely didn't.

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I prefer he didn't vote tbh
I actually laughed out loud. You're right, I also would prefer he didn't.

VOTE: Persivul

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Post Post #33 (isolation #9) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:12 pm

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Don't mind me, just trying to get to Oregon.

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Post Post #37 (isolation #10) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:27 pm

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In post 34, PenguinPower wrote:Pretty wagons...

I love a good wagon...

Mr Worm is a good wagon (except the policy comment...the vote is good thought).
You've sold me.

VOTE: Dr Worm

I imagine the comment about policy was because he was typing in ALL CAPS in the sign-ups thread?
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Post Post #48 (isolation #11) » Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:23 am

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I feel like one of the rebel troopers waiting outside the blast door in the beginning of A New Hope before the storm troopers break through and Vader appears.
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Post Post #61 (isolation #12) » Mon Feb 25, 2019 6:06 am

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In post 50, Persivul wrote:
In post 48, Enter wrote:I feel like one of the rebel troopers waiting outside the blast door in the beginning of A New Hope before the storm troopers break through and Vader appears.
Rogue One did the same scene, but better.
Fair.
In post 54, Emperor flippyNips wrote:I liked rouge one better than 7 & 8
I like throwing cow patties better than I like seven and eight. Eight had some nice looking scenery, though.
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Post Post #64 (isolation #13) » Mon Feb 25, 2019 6:12 am

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In post 52, Mohab500 wrote:VOTE: enter
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Post Post #68 (isolation #14) » Mon Feb 25, 2019 6:49 am

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Ah, just as expected. My vote was well placed.
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Post Post #79 (isolation #15) » Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:30 am

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Now there aren't enough votes on Persivul and I have enough stomach to handle the worm for a bit longer, so VOTE: Persivul
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Post Post #84 (isolation #16) » Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:07 pm

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In post 83, Tchill13 wrote:Somebody takes one vote off and 2 are immediately thrown on. Why didn't yall vote before flavor removed his?
I wanted to vote persivul originally, but the worm wagon looked enticing. Decided it wasn't going anywhere, went back to persivul
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Post Post #88 (isolation #17) » Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:35 pm

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In post 86, Tchill13 wrote:VOTE: enter

So you didn't think the worm wagon was going anywhere, at 3 votes, but the wagon that just had been put back at 1 was going to pick up steam? Where the only vote on the wagon, mine, hadn't even been explained?

Not looking too much into this. I just wanted a decent explanation.
Yeh pretty much. The worm amused me. Persivul did not.
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Post Post #89 (isolation #18) » Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:35 pm

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You should join him
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Post Post #102 (isolation #19) » Mon Feb 25, 2019 4:53 pm

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There were 4 game pages. Checking my votes couldn't have been hard.
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Post Post #106 (isolation #20) » Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:18 pm

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Your vote delay.
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Post Post #108 (isolation #21) » Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:36 pm

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VOTE: Penguin Power

Please explain your read on me.
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Post Post #121 (isolation #22) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:19 am

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In post 118, Mohab500 wrote:
In post 23, Enter wrote:
In post 6, Mohab500 wrote:Already have some ideas of who is scum just from these two posts, few more posts should put the nail in the coffin after some more intense text analysis.
In post 8, Mohab500 wrote:Figured out a PR from analyzing the text in that post, thanks!
What is this ISO?

Please vote this with me.
This post is just enough for me to suspect Enter. It's the type of post that has no purpose other than 'to be said', who mentions ISO in the first page of the game on a guy with two posts? Then demands people vote with him? that's either trolling, or just scum trying to find something to say to seem active.

So far, atleast.
Someone please explain to me what a joke is, thanks.

Other than that, votes on me are pretty solid? I think. Still trying to figure out what's happening with this meta.
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Post Post #122 (isolation #23) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:48 am

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VOTE: Mohab

This one is serious.
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Post Post #123 (isolation #24) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:49 am

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In post 120, Tchill13 wrote:Sad sheep must be an alt. I've never played with them yet they know how I operate.

Mohab explain why you voted persivul after flavor unvoted.

Mohab explain why you vote persivul after flavor takes the vote off.
Mohan never voted Persivul
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Post Post #128 (isolation #25) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:41 am

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Stagnant votes are boring someone shove something.
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Post Post #129 (isolation #26) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:42 am

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How are we on page six and I still feel like I'm in RVS. If this continues, this will be a bad game for town.
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Post Post #141 (isolation #27) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 9:01 am

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Oh no someone moving their vote around a lot and trying to get the game to be active when it's pretty darn stagnant is scum.

At least vote me and you don't have to make up reasons.
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Post Post #143 (isolation #28) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 9:32 am

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In post 142, Persivul wrote:
In post 141, Enter wrote:Oh no someone moving their vote around a lot and trying to get the game to be active when it's pretty darn stagnant is scum.

At least vote me and you don't have to make up reasons.
How did your frenetic approach work out for you in our last game?
Pretty good. I had a decent list of reads that I was pretty satisfied with.
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Post Post #144 (isolation #29) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 9:33 am

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Did you think it was ineffective?
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Post Post #146 (isolation #30) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:29 am

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In post 145, Persivul wrote:
In post 144, Enter wrote:Did you think it was ineffective?
A TvT shitfest which led to you and your lover being NK'd on N1? Yeah, I'm gonna say that was ineffective.
I will maintain that the only mistake on my part was full claiming.

BEF was a million times better Lynch than Robert or redtea, which is who everyone else was certain on lynching, and I'm not going to ever argue that trying to get PR hunting scummy player is anti-town, it baffles me that you would do differently.
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Post Post #149 (isolation #31) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:34 am

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I take no responsibility for the nightmarish play coming from BrightEyedFish that game. I will go so far as to argue that the game probably would have turned entirely around if we'd lynched appropriately.

I'm trying to justify you calling the lovers kill a result of my erratic play style as town or scum, and I can't really see either way a reason you would try and falsely frame things like that.
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Post Post #166 (isolation #32) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 2:04 pm

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Follow my lights
Of red, blue, and white
Lynching me not right
The worm maybe should die
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Post Post #167 (isolation #33) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 2:05 pm

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Really gonna be disappointed if I get lolhammered.

Really also hope the worm actually plays the game and doesn't ACTUALLY lolhammer
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Post Post #171 (isolation #34) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:05 pm

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This game is looking SUPER UP for town. I'm really glad I'm in this game cuz I'm getting tired of playing with town that doesn't care anymore.

Should I hard claim?
Was my soft too soft?
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Post Post #180 (isolation #35) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:36 pm

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What "woe is town" crap?
I'm frustrated with the way the player base, I'm not saying town is screwed if I die.
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Post Post #182 (isolation #36) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:37 pm

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There's a difference between "if you kill me you lose" and "wow some of the play here is pretty darn bad"
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Post Post #192 (isolation #37) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:43 pm

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In post 184, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 180, Enter wrote:What "woe is town" crap?
I'm frustrated with the way the player base, I'm not saying town is screwed if I die.
In post 129, Enter wrote:If this continues, this will be a bad game for town.
In post 171, Enter wrote:This game is looking SUPER UP for town. I'm really glad I'm in this game cuz I'm getting tired of playing with town that doesn't care anymore.
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If bad play continues like this, this will be a bad game for town.

quit taking shit out of context it's a bad look
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Post Post #196 (isolation #38) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:44 pm

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"I like people who play like garbage, so I'm going to start framing the quotes of people who say that stuff is dumb as not what they mean them to be"
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Post Post #197 (isolation #39) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:45 pm

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Literally everything you quoted as you quoted it can be taken as "the players play like garbage"
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Post Post #199 (isolation #40) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:47 pm

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I hate it when people say "this town is screwed if I die"
I don't mind it when people say "Wow stop playing like a four year old found a keyboard"
Quit asking me to chill. If you're mad cuz I'm saying people are playing like the latter, I don't care. If you're mad cuz I'm saying the former, you're wrong, and there's reason for me to be pissed.
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Post Post #211 (isolation #41) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:53 pm

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We got five pages into the game, it would surprise me if anyone had any reads worth much at all, and I've already been threatened with a quickhammer when all I've done is move my vote a couple times. I just got out of a game where the player PR hunted as town the whole first game including playing like dirt. I've got barely any patience for some of the crap that's gone on and the severe lack of activity from anyone seeming to even attempt at anything near town is driving me mad. I get it, half the player base is lol-accounts and the other half is the broody "I'm going to analyze the whole game but post maybe once a day" type. If there's some PL on the way I've entered the game day, please let me know and I'll back off. Otherwise, let's fix the game day. I'm not interested in fighting past loltown and arguing with broodtown to get anything worth reading in the thread. This is a darn team game. Can we please act like it?
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Post Post #213 (isolation #42) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:59 pm

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That's not hammer anyways, I don't think.

The mohab vote is serious because I actually meant that vote. It doesn't mean much at all, and possibly the weakest read I've ever had, but his only real post is a post that's OMGUS-y (which implies he's not really interested in talking about much other than people who view him as scum, a viewpoint I find myself falling into when I roll scum) and ignores the fact that my push on him was a joke (and pretty obvious at that).
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Post Post #214 (isolation #43) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:00 pm

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Sorry, it takes me a while to type, because I'm working on other stuff at the moment.

You asked me one question. Relax. AtE spewing is a bit of a stretch. Spewing emotion? Yes. Appealing to you by calling your play trash? Arguable.
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Post Post #218 (isolation #44) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:07 pm

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In post 215, PenguinPower wrote:*Calling the entire town's play trash. <---probably should get that one right

Yes, the "hammer" was fake. I wasn't going to point that out. Your explanation of mohab is weak and somewhat disappointing for a "serious" vote amidst RVS.
You seem pretty set on putting me in the worst light possible. I didn't call the entire town's play trash.

And what can I say? It's my strongest read.
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Post Post #222 (isolation #45) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:14 pm

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Must have. Unless you can quote me where I said "all of town" or "the entire town." You even quoted me where I said "
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of the play here is pretty darn bad."

But if relying on misuse of buzzwords and misrepresenting NAI play wins you games, you just keep it up.
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Post Post #223 (isolation #46) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:15 pm

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"Enter's posts make me feel bad, so I'm going to quote him while trying to frame him saying something statedly different from what I'm representing him as."
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Post Post #227 (isolation #47) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:22 pm

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If you don't mean things the way I'm taking them, I'm sorry.

I'm frustrated because fluffposting gets on my nerves, and we're on page 10 and no one has done anything particularly AI (IMO). The wagon on me is barely even readable FMPOV cuz everyone's vote on me looks like a joke. This isn't mafia. At least not the mafia I've ever played before. It's not the mafia I really wanted to sign up for. I'll go clear my head, but if this is how closed games usually go, I'm sorry I signed up. I hate to say this and play like this because it honestly usually isn't me. I hate emotional crap. I hate it when I do it and I hate it when other people do it. But I have no idea how to even begin processing this game. If other people have reads right now, then I have reached a whole new level of bad that I cannot even begin to handle, and I apologize for that.

Whatever. I'm going to go clear my head. I'll be back later, and I'll try to match the tone of the thread.
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Post Post #247 (isolation #48) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:37 am

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In post 241, Persivul wrote:
In post 112, Persivul wrote:
In post 79, Enter wrote:Now there aren't enough votes on Persivul and I have enough stomach to handle the worm for a bit longer, so VOTE: Persivul
D1 wagons can be really useful later...but not when people are making wagons just for the sake of making wagons.
In post 227, Enter wrote:The wagon on me is barely even readable FMPOV cuz everyone's vote on me looks like a joke.
:cool:
Usually you get two or three joke votes on a wagon and one or two that try to look like jokes. That's what makes it useful. I've never played with this complete lack of care before.
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Post Post #252 (isolation #49) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:05 am

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In post 251, Sad Sheep wrote:
In post 249, Sad Sheep wrote:I would just signup for another game
Just to be clear , this was meant as signup for another game in addition to staying in a current game....not meant to suggest replace out .
Thank you. I understood.
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Post Post #274 (isolation #50) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:26 am

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Slaxx pings me. Don't why we have another fake hammer. Mohab pings me. Tchill looks town. Penguin is looking intentionally null. Expect more from FL. Persivul is on the same boat as penguin. NM and Jib both are anti-town. Don't target me with your night actions.
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Post Post #275 (isolation #51) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:35 am

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Alright so everyone's scum except a few players lynch order let's go

Starting with people who don't have potential to play town and ending with people who have potential to be putting town stuff down
Worm->jib->emperor->pers->slaxx->penguin->nm

Nm is only on the end because he might be a PR

People not on this list are town by PoE. What a game. Don't think I've ever said anything like that before.
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Post Post #276 (isolation #52) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:37 am

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VOTE: worm

I'm cool with lynching anyone on that list rn, actually, except PP
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Post Post #279 (isolation #53) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:11 am

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I meant for him to be there. I moved people around a lot and I'm on mobile so I must have forgot. Let me fix

Worm->Mohan->jib->emperor->pers->slaxx->penguin->nm
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Post Post #281 (isolation #54) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:21 am

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Who is morality?
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Post Post #283 (isolation #55) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:24 am

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PoE. I want to see more from him. His posts are dumb but not scum. Not like pers or peng
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Post Post #284 (isolation #56) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:25 am

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Like his posts are surface scum. Peng and pers are one level deeper scum. I thi k it's based on character expectation
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Post Post #294 (isolation #57) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:53 am

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In post 286, Persivul wrote:I've never played with Jibril before. Just looks like scum to me. And personally I think towns would tend to do better with some D1 policy lynches, and/or better PR play.
I agree
In post 287, Slaxx wrote:I’m gonna be blunt here

There’s too many shitty players to be an advocate of policy lynching this game
This is a site-wide problem I think
In post 288, Slaxx wrote:That’s not meant to be specific to any one player and I’m not going to name them.

It’s a rough list.


If this is me, please tell me post-game. I want to stop playing like crap. I think I'm actually getting worse and I wasn't particularly good to begin with.
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Post Post #396 (isolation #58) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:53 am

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The scary part is that I agree with Persivul here.

Explain why you're TRing penguin, Tchill.
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Post Post #408 (isolation #59) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:33 am

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FL is town FN is town slack off is still scum
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Post Post #416 (isolation #60) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:05 am

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In post 415, Mohab500 wrote:Back to being confused again, no body os really scummy amymore...
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Post Post #432 (isolation #61) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 5:55 pm

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Penguin will you join me on worm, persivul, or mohab?
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Post Post #433 (isolation #62) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 5:57 pm

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I meant persivul or mohab. Maybe we should all switch to mohab. I'm OK with not mafia but I don't know that everyone else is feeling and I'd rather do mohab.

VOTE: mohab
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Post Post #435 (isolation #63) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:04 pm

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In post 434, Dr Worm wrote:THIS makes NO SENCE TOOOOOO!! PONGWIN is voting DR WORM right now!! Why ENTREE changing VOTE??
Tchill left this wagon, it's losing popularity, and I'm not picky over who we Lynch today.
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Post Post #437 (isolation #64) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:29 pm

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I left a two person wagon for a two person wagon . And I'm following this:
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Post Post #438 (isolation #65) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:30 pm

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In post 279, Enter wrote:I meant for him to be there. I moved people around a lot and I'm on mobile so I must have forgot. Let me fix

Worm->Mohan->jib->emperor->pers->slaxx->penguin->nm
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Post Post #439 (isolation #66) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:31 pm

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Let me update actually


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Post Post #442 (isolation #67) » Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:18 am

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VOTE: persivul
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Post Post #444 (isolation #68) » Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:04 am

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In post 443, Persivul wrote:
In post 442, Enter wrote:pers
What's your reasoning?
Just curious to see who's willing to jump on and who isn't.
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Post Post #446 (isolation #69) » Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:10 am

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You make me uncomfortable I think you're town.

Worm->Mohan->slaxx->nm

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Post Post #450 (isolation #70) » Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:33 am

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In post 449, Tchill13 wrote:How can you see who's gonna join the wagon if it only last 4 posts? Wtf?
I can't. I lied. Feel free to lynch me on LaL. Pers had been pinging me as scum a while back. I worked down my lynch list and then got to him. When he challenged me I ISO'd him and liked how it looked. I didn't want to take my vote off there because I figured I could use it, so I kept it there to see if someone else would jump on. Then I remembered what game I was in and got scared of three people jumping on all at once and lynching him. Seeing as Persivul is now a town read, I didn't want that happening, so I took my vote off of him.
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Post Post #462 (isolation #71) » Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:40 pm

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In post 260, Slaxx wrote:VOTE: Emperor Flippy Nips

Lots of active lurkers and gimmicks but this one stands out.
In post 262, Slaxx wrote:
In post 57, Emperor flippyNips wrote:Hell yeah it was great they get you attached to all these characters then BOOOM. Idk how I’ll feel about the others when they’re a complete trilogy that might change something but right here right now Rouge One all the way
Posts like these that show they’re paying attention but going out of their way to not post anything game-related.

Jibril isn’t posting a lot but they have a couple of game-related posts.
This reads fake, and I haven't seen you do anything that makes me think you're town.

That's why you're on my scum list.
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Post Post #463 (isolation #72) » Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:42 pm

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In post 452, Sad Sheep wrote:
In post 450, Enter wrote:Then I remembered what game I was in and got scared of three people jumping on all at once
that would be some serious insanity

and how come chen isnt in your pool
We have at least three certified (by me) insane people in this game, so not out of the question.
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Post Post #464 (isolation #73) » Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:42 pm

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In post 456, Tchill13 wrote:He said he voted jibril as a test and then he said it was a lie and he actually voted jibril for... Something...
Who did?
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Post Post #468 (isolation #74) » Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:01 pm

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In post 467, Slaxx wrote:Also, you’re not really trying to get a read on me. You’ve written my slot off as lynchable and aren’t concerned with my actual thought processes or flip. Same for Mohab, actually.

You’re not really interacting in a way with your votes that makes it evident you’re discerning their alignments.
Point out one post that shows you're trying to get a read on someone and I'll take it back.

My lynch pool right now is about twice what it probably should be right now. I promise you I'm quite interested in not lynching you if you're town. You just don't seem particularly set on indicating you're town.
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Post Post #471 (isolation #75) » Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:05 pm

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In post 466, Slaxx wrote:
In post 463, Enter wrote:
In post 452, Sad Sheep wrote:
In post 450, Enter wrote:Then I remembered what game I was in and got scared of three people jumping on all at once
that would be some serious insanity

and how come chen isnt in your pool
We have at least three certified (by me) insane people in this game, so not out of the question.
Also, you glossed over this Enter.

I think Chen is town but I’m curious as to why you do.
I'm sure you are.

I'm not interested in lynching Chen and I'm not interested in discussing my read on him at the moment.

But let's talk about you. Why do your posts seem more interested in proving you're town than discovering the alignments of other people? Why do your reads lists feel fake? Why do I feel that when you make a post you're making it for the purpose of LOOKING like you're putting in effort?

Your Emp push was about as manufactured my sister's plastic diamonds.
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Post Post #473 (isolation #76) » Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:08 pm

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In post 472, Slaxx wrote:What about my posts makes me look more like someone trying to look Town than to solve?

And are you seriously asking me to explain why my reads feel fake to you? That’s literally your job here.
You asked me to explain why I'm scumreading you and I gave it to you. Why are you complaining?
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Post Post #475 (isolation #77) » Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:10 pm

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Yeah that's pretty close to it.
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Post Post #477 (isolation #78) » Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:15 pm

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In post 476, Slaxx wrote:
In post 475, Enter wrote:Yeah that's pretty close to it.
And... that’s where you want to leave the conversation at?

Not expanding on why the reads come off disingenuous? Or refuting any of the points about my interactions with others I listed? Or pick my brain about any of my thought processes?

Are you absolutely sure you want to leave the conversation right here?
Yep.
I'll come back to it tomorrow after I've thought through what I've done.
I don't mind leaving my vote all by itself on someone while I sleep on it.

I'd feel pretty darn awful if I left someone at L-1 (L-3 in this game) while I slept on it.

Speaking of which, I'm going to sleep. See you guys later.
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Post Post #479 (isolation #79) » Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:42 pm

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Well I'm a bad lynch candidate and persivul is a bad lynch candidate.
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Post Post #481 (isolation #80) » Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:44 pm

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Actually I'm ascetic town cop.
Lynch me if you want, it's probably better if I'm lynched now over later if we're gonna do the thing where I'm always in the back of everyone's minds and then the fact that it's been eating at you all game is the reason we lose in lylo.

I'd much rather lynch a lurker - esp mohab though


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Post Post #548 (isolation #81) » Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:58 pm

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In post 489, Slaxx wrote:Enter for future reference you should probably be less aggressive as town and actually stand behind your pushes. I believe the claim is real.
Ha. I'd love to if I believed any of my pushes were very real at all instead of splitting town in half by gut.

The equivalent of what you've just said to me is: Enter just make sure that even though you've sorted and might be killed for it, don't push anyone or try to figure out who to investigate tonight because you might get yourself killed even though you still barely like any of your reads.
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Post Post #561 (isolation #82) » Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:39 pm

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VOTE: Dr worm
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Post Post #656 (isolation #83) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 1:56 pm

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VOTE: chennisdan

I investigated NM like you asked. My result should be relatively obvious.
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Post Post #659 (isolation #84) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 2:02 pm

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[7] Dr Worm : Flavor Leaf 557, PenguinPower 558, Tchill13 560, Enter 561, Not_Mafia 563, Persivul 584, Emperor flippyNips 587

Persivul is town, NM is town, I'm town

Tchill and PP are null-town

that leaves flipnipps and fl.

anyone disagree?
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Post Post #667 (isolation #85) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 2:18 pm

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In post 666, Tchill13 wrote:is slaxx the type that always shuts down tests?

big fan of boonskies tests here. I encourage them for the most part (he's not a god he's occasionally wrong) Usually only use them after a town flip because he does the same shit as scum. You can usually tell when he's scum if he keeps mislynching. His reads are too good on a regular basis to be constantly pushing town players.
No. Not from marathon, at least. He was very gambitty in marathon games.
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Post Post #670 (isolation #86) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:35 pm

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In post 666, Tchill13 wrote:is slaxx the type that always shuts down tests?

big fan of boonskies tests here. I encourage them for the most part (he's not a god he's occasionally wrong) Usually only use them after a town flip because he does the same shit as scum. You can usually tell when he's scum if he keeps mislynching. His reads are too good on a regular basis to be constantly pushing town players.
This pings me for some reason.
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Post Post #694 (isolation #87) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 5:19 pm

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In post 671, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 668, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 662, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 656, Enter wrote:VOTE: chennisdan

I investigated NM like you asked. My result should be relatively obvious.
did FL ask you to investigate NM? I don't remember seeing that.
@ENTER AS IN ENTER PLEASE ANSWER THIS
Let's see...
How hard is this to do?

*find FL's name in the thread*
*click "(ISO)"*

Not very hard at all, intersting.
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Post Post #724 (isolation #88) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:00 pm

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In post 720, Slaxx wrote:
In post 718, Jibril wrote:
In post 713, Slaxx wrote:
In post 710, Jibril wrote:
In post 151, Dr Worm wrote:SADSHIP and CHUMBADEN are TROWN in MY HEART!!
Do you think this game is as easy as lynching his town reads? I appreciate the solving but I think it’s misguided.
I think the people he called town who also didn't vote him is the best place to look for Werebeasts.
Why? I get the point of the game is to try to keep your buddies around but I think the dissonance between Worm’s vote on Pers and his pressuring and shading of people like Enter and Chenn are more reliable than just looking at the votes and his reads.
This post makes me think Slaxx is town.

I also want to think Pers is town.
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Post Post #726 (isolation #89) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:05 pm

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In post 725, Tchill13 wrote:Persivul why did you target flavor leaf in the neighborhood instead of a claimed PR?
Because we will die day one or two, and targetting one of us narrows scum's kills. By targetting a strong TR of his, he draws the NK away from PRs, or the PRs draw NKs away from the Neighborhood, but mafia cannot get both!
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Post Post #727 (isolation #90) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:05 pm

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Your regular inability to attempt to work through things for yourself is going to drive me mad.
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Post Post #729 (isolation #91) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:08 pm

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Am I dumb in thinking that the questions Tchill is asking have obvious answers?
Am I dumb in thinking that he might be asking questions to fake activity?
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Post Post #731 (isolation #92) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:09 pm

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In post 662, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 656, Enter wrote:VOTE: chennisdan

I investigated NM like you asked. My result should be relatively obvious.
did FL ask you to investigate NM? I don't remember seeing that.
In post 671, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 668, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 662, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 656, Enter wrote:VOTE: chennisdan

I investigated NM like you asked. My result should be relatively obvious.
did FL ask you to investigate NM? I don't remember seeing that.
@ENTER AS IN ENTER PLEASE ANSWER THIS
Spent more time asking this question twice than looking himself.
In post 698, Tchill13 wrote:Jibril jail kept an ascetic instead of a claimed cop? (although fake claim). That's nice. That's real nice.
Questioned Jibril testing to make sure my claim was true or not, even though we discussed this yesterday as well.
In post 725, Tchill13 wrote:Persivul why did you target flavor leaf in the neighborhood instead of a claimed PR?
Already explained why this is silly.

VOTE: Tchill
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Post Post #743 (isolation #93) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:50 pm

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In post 735, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 698, Tchill13 wrote:Jibril jail kept an ascetic instead of a claimed cop? (although fake claim). That's nice. That's real nice.
This is about jibril doing a pretty stupid thing imo. Has nothing to do with enter or his claim. This ACTUALLY had a whole point to it. Of course I'm quite stupid and only ask dumb questions. So maybe it's worthless.
Yeah, a whole point that was discussed YESTERDAY. Which is something you somehow managed to miss. Again. Congrats
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Post Post #745 (isolation #94) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:57 pm

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In post 744, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 743, Enter wrote:
In post 735, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 698, Tchill13 wrote:Jibril jail kept an ascetic instead of a claimed cop? (although fake claim). That's nice. That's real nice.
This is about jibril doing a pretty stupid thing imo. Has nothing to do with enter or his claim. This ACTUALLY had a whole point to it. Of course I'm quite stupid and only ask dumb questions. So maybe it's worthless.
Yeah, a whole point that was discussed YESTERDAY. Which is something you somehow managed to miss. Again. Congrats
but nm's claim wasn't confirmed and neither was yours. Yours still isnt due to you having a town result on the only flipped town player. while i do believe your claim atm the door is still open.

I also still haven't proven my point yet. Because you're belittling me i'm gonna take my time with that. Didn't know a lvl 9001 super sayain mafia lord was in our midst. I'll try to step my game up when i play with you from now on.... Sheesh.
You being dumb isn't the same as me being great.
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Post Post #750 (isolation #95) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:19 pm

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I wish calling you out for asking questions that had already been answered made me feel better about myself in any way, shape, or form, but it only disappoints me. If it makes you feel better, I hate myself right now and am only brutally aware of how much dumber I am now than I was two years ago. Me calling you out is no sort of ego play. It's me publicly weighing two options in my hand. Do I assume you're scum, trying to fake activity, or do I assume you're town and just not paying attention at all? Trying to frame me as using you for an ego boost won't get you very far because it's frankly untrue. I have no success to my name in mafia in the past year, where would I get this ego from? Also why would me saying what I've said about you make me feel better about myself? Who wants to play mafia with people who are bad? I don't.
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Post Post #752 (isolation #96) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:39 pm

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Ok. You're right. I'm sorry.
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Post Post #754 (isolation #97) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:48 pm

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I mean you're right I was being dumb I should have let you get whatever answers you need in case you were trying for reactions I just didn't think before I did things. I'm actually sorry.
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Post Post #755 (isolation #98) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:48 pm

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I hate this game sometimes. I feel so dumb.

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #784 (isolation #99) » Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:08 am

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Pers is like my strongest town read right now.
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Post Post #790 (isolation #100) » Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:49 am

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I'm going to be honest this is my first time playing a PR with a night action and I didn't really think through it all the way. I was playing scared and dumb when I targeted last night. I have no intention of following whatever you guys tell me to do today.
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Post Post #849 (isolation #101) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:54 am

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VOTE: chenn
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Post Post #853 (isolation #102) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:19 am

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In post 510, Jibril wrote:I can jailkeep Enter and if he is fake no harm done.
In post 512, Jibril wrote:If he is real no harm done.
In post 537, Jibril wrote:If he is real he can still get a result, if he is true, if he is lying I can hurt him, so that would be the better choice? You disagree?
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Post Post #860 (isolation #103) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:20 am

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In post 859, Tchill13 wrote:VOTE: chennisden

L-1. let's see who hops off the wagon immediately.
Fake vote. Fake reason.

Lynch chen, then lynch tchill
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Post Post #862 (isolation #104) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:25 am

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I misread my role PM
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Post Post #866 (isolation #105) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:28 am

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In post 861, Jibril wrote:VOTE: chennisden
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Post Post #867 (isolation #106) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:29 am

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In post 861, Jibril wrote:VOTE: chennisden
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Post Post #870 (isolation #107) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:31 am

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Jib shares my thoughts on you. And on a lot of the game. Just doesn't explain them very well.
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Post Post #871 (isolation #108) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:32 am

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In post 869, PenguinPower wrote:I'm getting quickly frustrated with the pervasive quickhammering that has come onsite over the past few months.
Stop quickhammering?
Yes.

But there is a good time for it. Like right now.

Also I'd rather see "Dragging out days until deadline because it seems town" end before quickhammering.
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Post Post #875 (isolation #109) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:35 am

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watcher take lurker pool and i'll take more active players?

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Someone might have jumped off the wagon. More interested in seeing this wagon happen than I am in seeing Mohab/Flippy make another prodge or get replaced and then everyone gets off the scum wagon cuz they forget how much they want it dead
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Post Post #881 (isolation #110) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:39 am

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In post 874, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 870, Enter wrote:Jib shares my thoughts on you. And on a lot of the game. Just doesn't explain them very well.
Since you seem to know his thoughts, why don't you summarize for us?
P sure jib is still a "she"

and here it is:

Game was crazy and weird so jib came in and was crazy and weird to react to it
jib voted me to see what would happen as reaction test to NM
jib voted NM when NM stayed weird
jib voted persivul when i was doubting persivul
jib said she thought she would be ded by tomorrow
jib wanted to test my ascetic claim cuz she was curious
not because it made a whole lot of logical sense but because she was curious
i was thinkiing the same thing at the time
jib voted sad sheep when i was thinking sad sheep looks weird
jib hammered chen when tchill was trying to get towncred for jumping on the wagon and pushing people off of it

a lot of the time i want to do something or say something i don't have to because jib has already done it
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Post Post #882 (isolation #111) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:40 am

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In post 877, Jibril wrote:I think chennis is a Werebeast. Not sure after that. Chill shouldn't L-1 if he didn't want me to hammer. If anyone on Dr Worm is a Werebeast I think it would be Chill.
See?
I hardcore agree with this.

Nothing jib has posted isn't strong town.
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Post Post #884 (isolation #112) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:40 am

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jib if you jk chill i can't invest, right?

you should jk him and i'll go elsewhere
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Post Post #885 (isolation #113) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:41 am

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In post 883, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 877, Jibril wrote:I think chennis is a Werebeast. Not sure after that. Chill shouldn't L-1 if he didn't want me to hammer. If anyone on Dr Worm is a Werebeast I think it would be Chill.
Like I'm responsible for you voting chennisden. Why didn't you vote him before I did. You've obviously kept up with the thread.
because your vote was scum vote
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Post Post #887 (isolation #114) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:42 am

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In post 886, Tchill13 wrote:Hey guys IT'S MY FAULT jibril didn't vote chennisden before I did and he's been hardcore lurking. WHAT THE ACTUAL HELL?
jib was waiting for wagon to get to l-1 to quickhammer cuz she knew scum gonna pull scum move like you were doing
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Post Post #891 (isolation #115) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:45 am

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In post 888, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 884, Enter wrote:jib if you jk chill i can't invest, right?

you should jk him and i'll go elsewhere
Yes sir let's continue to let scum know what we're doing. Fucking idiotic.
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In post 887, Enter wrote:
In post 886, Tchill13 wrote:Hey guys IT'S MY FAULT jibril didn't vote chennisden before I did and he's been hardcore lurking. WHAT THE ACTUAL HELL?
jib was waiting for wagon to get to l-1 to quickhammer cuz she knew scum gonna pull scum move like you were doing
Hey remember when you "genuinely felt dumb" for answering for other ppl. You have no problem doing that shit right now.
HAHAHAHAHA

I did but then I came to my senses.

You weren't trying to help me play mafia better. You were attacking my weakest point! That place in the body where people hold their emotions or whatever!
I have THROWN IT AWAY! HA. Weakness has no place with me.
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Post Post #895 (isolation #116) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:48 am

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In post 890, Jibril wrote:Enter ❤❤❤
hi
In post 892, Tchill13 wrote:I'm done. Try to get some reads while waiting on Mohab and flippnips but no. Persivul wagon died before it even started. That shit looks terrible compared to how the chennisden wagon got pushed through. No telling what to think on Mohab or flippnips. I take full responsibility for being dumb enough to think the guy with a shitty night 1 claim wouldn't quickhammer. Yes it is MY FAULT I didn't know jibril was actively lurking without even posting.
Ok.

Let's talk after game. I'm bad at dealing with other people's emotions. I want you to be happy and you're not and that's frustrating.

Let's talk after the game, ok? Right now I think you're scum so sit tight while we win this and then we can work everything out later, ok?
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Post Post #896 (isolation #117) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:49 am

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In post 894, PenguinPower wrote:Tchill rage is town!Tchill.

I'm pretty much in the rage camp as well right now.
Ha funny cuz tchill rage

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Post Post #899 (isolation #118) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:51 am

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game thread: enter y u so aggro as pr
game thread: jib y u so passive as pr

lol everyone who disagrees with me in a subjective game with a subjective optimal is bad at the game

u should play like has worked for me in the past because i have my anecdotal evidence to back it up
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Post Post #903 (isolation #119) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:53 am

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In post 897, PenguinPower wrote:And you look extremely scummy - but I'm assuming you're just bad.

Sometimes what we see is wrong.
No, you're bad and you can't read a genius like me. Sucks. :/
In post 898, Tchill13 wrote:I mean this guy... Get a load of this guy. He doesn't know what to think. "OMG I'm so sorry" to "I'm fucking genius that has no weakness and ik all thoughts jibril possesses" wow bro... Wow. Almost as entertaining as robbvna. That dude is a riot.
Yeah man it really sucks when people change their minds.
It's also super weird when people realize that you're aggressively trying to manipulate their feelings and they don't like it.
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Post Post #904 (isolation #120) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:53 am

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In post 900, Tchill13 wrote:Enter has thought I was scum this whole day phase and we've seen 2 different sides of enters tone to achieve that assumption. That is all. I'd heavily look into persivul, Jibril and enter.

Peace out.
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Post Post #906 (isolation #121) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:54 am

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In post 904, Enter wrote:
In post 900, Tchill13 wrote:Enter has thought I was scum this whole day phase and we've seen 2 different sides of enters tone to achieve that assumption. That is all. I'd heavily look into persivul, Jibril and enter.

Peace out.
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Post Post #907 (isolation #122) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:56 am

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i'm actually laughing so hard right now

how do you manage - even as scum - to list only the the claimed PRs in your scum pool.
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Post Post #911 (isolation #123) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:00 am

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In post 908, Tchill13 wrote:You all claimed d1 for little to no reason and you're all on this shitty lynch.

If it's a bus one of you are definitely scum. If it flips town then AT LEAST someone has to be scum. No need for d1 claim and you're on the worst lynch I've ever seen.
undeniably no matter what this flip is, we should lynch a town pr tomorrow and my name is tchill
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Post Post #913 (isolation #124) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:01 am

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In post 912, Slaxx wrote:Chenn wagon was dumb.

I was going to start on SS tonight or tomorrow but okay.
that's a good one, too.
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Post Post #915 (isolation #125) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:02 am

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In post 914, PenguinPower wrote:Enter - take a break. You're pure noise atm.
Sorry. I'll be back later. o7
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Post Post #919 (isolation #126) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:03 am

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In post 916, Sad Sheep wrote:
In post 912, Slaxx wrote:I was going to start on SS tonight or tomorrow but okay.
im town :cry:


you are not
Wait first case this please. Cuz I liked slaxx for town.

PEdit: case ech other to the best of yoru ability w/ time we have please i need to see cuz I might have missed something on slaxx
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Post Post #923 (isolation #127) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:09 am

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jib i trust you w/ jk
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Post Post #2241 (isolation #128) » Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:38 pm

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In post 2213, Tchill13 wrote:Also I absolutely love town that KNOW I'm scum but lack the skill to of convincing others to work with them.

Jibril. I'd love to know why you fake claimed. That's rough.

FL, I was wondering why you didn't realize you said scum would want jib lynched but didn't say anything about me pushing the hell out of jib.

Also I really enjoyed playing with pers. Dude has similar... Guidelines to how he approaches the game as I do.

I think Slaax and PP were towns best players. I don't blame them a bit for issues they had during this game given what jibril did and how bad enter looked pushing me.

We got really lucky because for the most part this is one of the worst games I've ever seen from town.

GG's though. This was my first game back from a hiatus and I was actually nervous because I drew scum.
well played

if i wasn't so bad at doing pr things i think i would have been better at doing vt things that i'm usually pretty ok at

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Post Post #2242 (isolation #129) » Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:39 pm

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jib are you an alt
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Post Post #2243 (isolation #130) » Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:39 pm

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definitely screwed up my PR stuff again... someday i'll get used to having actual powers lol

i definitely take blame for really messing up d1/d2 even if i'd been alive d3 i panicked and tracked the wrong person lol
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Post Post #2245 (isolation #131) » Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:51 pm

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You too, Jib. :D
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Post Post #2247 (isolation #132) » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:50 pm

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In post 2246, Tchill13 wrote:Yeah I was kind of annoyed by you two lol.

Wanting to play makes sense. Because it SUCKS getting lynched early for little to no reason. I'm not saying it's justified but at least you had a reason.

Enter I would have tried not to kill you but you were a pr I had to lol. I'd much rather have confrontation as scum, as weird as it sounds.

I was honestly bummed lylo ended the way it did. I was looking forward to a huge 1v1 then trying to convince Slaax vedith and emp were scum.
Ha, I understand
I really really fucked up w/ my claim and how I handled day 1, and that was my bad
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Post Post #2248 (isolation #133) » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:51 pm

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I do wanna admit that i have an ongoing problem of getting decent reads (like the scumread on you) and then getting ate'd off it and manipulated away from it
i'm super weak to ate

I definitely understand wanting to do the confrontation as scum it just makes the game more fun and feel more real
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Post Post #2249 (isolation #134) » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:52 pm

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i really need to figure out how to not let people manipulate me like i let you manipulate me

you played super well everyone else was convinced you wre town, lol
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Post Post #2264 (isolation #135) » Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:31 am

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Fascinating. I was right on PP too. Well, that was more of a gut read but yk
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Post Post #2265 (isolation #136) » Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:12 am

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Wait, no I wasn't.

What gave me the idea I was?
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Post Post #2266 (isolation #137) » Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:25 am

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Yeah. Shoulda read more closely what happens for normals. I saw normal and assumed just vts and mafia,lol
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Post Post #2267 (isolation #138) » Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:26 am

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Maybe a cop or something but I was just kinda planning on not rolling that
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Post Post #2271 (isolation #139) » Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:14 am

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Literally only claimed because crumbing twice wasn't good enough people were still pushing my lynch when I was one of the townies players in the game, this is pretty different from prey, which was me making absolutely stupid decisions- not claiming here probably could have been achieved but it wasn't braindead the way prey was.
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Post Post #2272 (isolation #140) » Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:16 am

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Prey was pretty much only my fault, I should have just handled BEF better. This game was just a garbage fire day 1 that lead to really stupid pushes like the push on me. :/ not saying I didn't handle it less than optimally, just saying that I resent implications that this is solely my fault or even that I take a large share of the blame
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