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Post Post #1775 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:49 pm

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right, and you asked about interactions with Vedith, RAS. i'm going to do a proper joint ISO of those two tomorrow as well. i seem to remember them having fairly natural conversations.
i do want to look into why Flavor chose to attempt to mislynch L8 instead of Vedith, his soft guilty. it's either that he figured out Vedith's claim would make lynching him hard, knowing that the scum kill was performed by a ninja so Vedith had to be a protective, or Vedith is his buddy. i find the former more likely but this is based off of memory and my memory is quite bad.
Flippy i need to look at more in general. i was sort of sheeping Flavor's behavioural townread before and that obviously isn't something i should be doing now.

if we can get a scumpool down to two players we win. so that's what i'll be trying to do.
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Post Post #1776 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:53 pm

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In post 1745, RAS wrote:His first read list can be found at Post 605 (isolation #75). FL is nowhere to be found on this list despite the amount of interactions these two players had with each other.
would like to point this out.
Deb's list here is hard to read, but Flavor is on it. listed as "Bland Branch".
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Post Post #1777 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:57 pm

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flippy might be in my lynchpool no matter what.
preliminary pool would be flippy, and if he flips town, RAS. but it would mean RAS is playing a great game. it might just be flippy.

i think no matter what my decision on option 2, flippy would need to be lynch option 1. once again this hinges on a reexamination of Flavor's flippy defense.

i was wrong to townread Flavor for so long, but his flip (and what he said) does tell me that the Creature kill was nothing more than Flavor earnestly believing Creature was town. it's too incriminating otherwise and i don't think a double-bluff in trying to frame himself is a good idea (though possible).
regardless, it does mean Flavor was the final decision on the kill.

that's probably all that's worthwhile to talk about without some actual rereading. good night!
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Post Post #1778 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:33 pm

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In post 1776, Chara wrote:
In post 1745, RAS wrote:His first read list can be found at Post 605 (isolation #75). FL is nowhere to be found on this list despite the amount of interactions these two players had with each other.
would like to point this out.
Deb's list here is hard to read, but Flavor is on it. listed as "Bland Branch".
Thanks, I completely missed that. I don't think it's very meaningful in any way, though.

I also doubt that I will be changing my lynch pool here, I think it's Flippy > Vedith. It's such a small thing, but it seems to be something that I can't get out of my head, but I wouldn't put it past FL to jokingly claim mason here with Vedith if they're both scum. FL takes a lot of unnecessary gambits as scum, and I'm really getting that vibe from it for whatever reason. I know it's not really a gambit by any means, but it's still giving me an odd vibe every time I go back to it.

My Vedith read here is purely based on PoE, if it wasn't obvious enough.
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Post Post #1779 (ISO) » Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:35 pm

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In post 1777, Chara wrote:
i think no matter what my decision on option 2, flippy would need to be lynch option 1. once again this hinges on a reexamination of Flavor's flippy defense.
I don’t get how after looking at flavor & I go back and forth makes you think I’m scum? I parked my vote didn’t take it off. I never got close to trying to kill L8 cos I knew he was town. Flavor kept pushing that he was scum if he was my partner I would of at least said a little about how L8 did some small thing that is scummy.
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Post Post #1780 (ISO) » Wed Apr 03, 2019 8:37 am

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Prodded DEB, for the last time
no investigation no right to speak
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Post Post #1781 (ISO) » Wed Apr 03, 2019 8:45 am

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With everything that y'all have said, I'm comfortable having this two scum lynchpool. Agreeing with Chara, I think Icy Nips should be the frontrunner. I've never felt Chara to be scummy since they've been in here.
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Post Post #1782 (ISO) » Wed Apr 03, 2019 8:46 am

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In post 1780, Zulfy wrote:
Prodded DEB, for the last time
Spoopy.....
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Post Post #1783 (ISO) » Wed Apr 03, 2019 8:48 am

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I'm glad these ISO dives are making y'all see the light on my town situation. Killing me is a loss.
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Post Post #1784 (ISO) » Wed Apr 03, 2019 8:55 am

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Wel I haven’t really gotten a scum read from chara, ras, vedith or deb
But he was the last on my town list leaning towards scum so I was down to see what people thought of his lynch
I’m gonna take a dive into who’s alive a bit later
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Post Post #1785 (ISO) » Wed Apr 03, 2019 2:04 pm

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VOTE: Emperor flippyNips.
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Post Post #1786 (ISO) » Wed Apr 03, 2019 2:17 pm

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If that’s how you really feel
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Post Post #1787 (ISO) » Wed Apr 03, 2019 3:53 pm

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In post 1785, RAS wrote:VOTE: Emperor flippyNips.
I’m a waste of time I’m town. I don’t think you’re scum so we should work together. It’d be really crazy if you’re scum & have been playing the way you have right now. Coming in immediately and parking your vote on flavor which made me feel more certain on killing flavor. Although I was riding off of what person had said
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Post Post #1788 (ISO) » Wed Apr 03, 2019 5:03 pm

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@DEB
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who are your two biggest scum reads?
& who are your most towniest town reads?
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Post Post #1789 (ISO) » Wed Apr 03, 2019 6:13 pm

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I don’t really like the way Nips is responding to RAS’s vote.
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Post Post #1790 (ISO) » Wed Apr 03, 2019 6:25 pm

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In post 1788, Emperor flippyNips wrote:@DEB
who are your two biggest scum reads?
& who are your most towniest town reads?
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Post Post #1791 (ISO) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:42 am

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In post 1789, Dr Easy Bake wrote:I don’t really like the way Nips is responding to RAS’s vote.

What’s there not to like?
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Post Post #1792 (ISO) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:45 am

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In post 1788, Emperor flippyNips wrote:@DEB
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& who are your most towniest town reads?
DEB or Chara as Scum
Both you and RAS as town.

I'm still not able to fully commit for another day.
I claim scum \o/
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Post Post #1793 (ISO) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:03 am

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In post 1792, Vedith wrote:
In post 1788, Emperor flippyNips wrote:@DEB
@chara
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who are your two biggest scum reads?
& who are your most towniest town reads?
DEB or Chara as Scum
Both you and RAS as town.

I'm still not able to fully commit for another day.
Okay but when you can..
What do you find scummy from chara?
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Post Post #1794 (ISO) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:22 am

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In post 1790, Emperor flippyNips wrote:
In post 1788, Emperor flippyNips wrote:@DEB
who are your two biggest scum reads?
& who are your most towniest town reads?
You're the only one who I'm really reading as scum right now. Like I said before, I don't like the way you responded to just recently getting voted.
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Post Post #1795 (ISO) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:31 am

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In post 1794, Dr Easy Bake wrote:
In post 1790, Emperor flippyNips wrote:
In post 1788, Emperor flippyNips wrote:@DEB
who are your two biggest scum reads?
& who are your most towniest town reads?
You're the only one who I'm really reading as scum right now. Like I said before, I don't like the way you responded to just recently getting voted.
So everyone else is for sure town to you no way around it?
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Post Post #1796 (ISO) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:37 am

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In post 1791, Emperor flippyNips wrote:
In post 1789, Dr Easy Bake wrote:I don’t really like the way Nips is responding to RAS’s vote.

What’s there not to like?
In post 1794, Dr Easy Bake wrote: You're the only one who I'm really reading as scum right now. Like I said before, I don't like the way you responded to just recently getting voted.
I don’t feel like you answered my question, you said the same thing in a different way
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Post Post #1797 (ISO) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:39 am

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In post 1795, Emperor flippyNips wrote:
In post 1794, Dr Easy Bake wrote:
In post 1790, Emperor flippyNips wrote:
In post 1788, Emperor flippyNips wrote:@DEB
who are your two biggest scum reads?
& who are your most towniest town reads?
You're the only one who I'm really reading as scum right now. Like I said before, I don't like the way you responded to just recently getting voted.
So everyone else is for sure town to you no way around it?
No, not at all. I can be convinced. You're just what I'm feeling right now.
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Post Post #1798 (ISO) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:45 am

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In post 1796, Emperor flippyNips wrote:
In post 1791, Emperor flippyNips wrote:
In post 1789, Dr Easy Bake wrote:I don’t really like the way Nips is responding to RAS’s vote.

What’s there not to like?
In post 1794, Dr Easy Bake wrote: You're the only one who I'm really reading as scum right now. Like I said before, I don't like the way you responded to just recently getting voted.
I don’t feel like you answered my question, you said the same thing in a different way
I just didn't like your response, feels very weird and scummy.
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Post Post #1799 (ISO) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:02 am

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What’s scummy about it?
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