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Post Post #200 (ISO) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:59 am

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Invisibility is actually AWESOME!
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Post Post #201 (ISO) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:29 am

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Vote Count 1.4


Yes Mafia (6)
- volxen, Baezu, skitter30, Invisibility, rosterfoster, tris
Elbirn (2)
- GuiltyLion, insomnia
Invisibility (2)
- MariaR, ofrhz
insomnia (1)
- Yes Mafia

Not Voting (2)
- Enigma, Elbirn

As there are 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.

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Post Post #202 (ISO) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:43 am

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Boy I knew there was a reason I didnt vote for yesmafia
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Post Post #203 (ISO) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:44 am

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bruh moment
VOTE: volxen
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Post Post #204 (ISO) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:58 am

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Post Post #205 (ISO) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 12:10 pm

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In post 186, rosterfoster wrote: Really sticking your neck out there aren’t you YM?
What did you mean by this?
In post 190, rosterfoster wrote:VOTE: Yes
And what prompted this vote, aside from what you were replying to?
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Post Post #206 (ISO) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 12:50 pm

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Elbirn- are you and I the only ones writing more than three words in our posts? What’s going on here town?
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Post Post #207 (ISO) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 12:53 pm

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UNVOTE:

Oh, I was not paying attention to the vote count!
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Post Post #208 (ISO) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 12:59 pm

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Actually, VOTE: Yes Mafia It's L-2 now so I'm not worried about an early lynch.
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Post Post #209 (ISO) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:00 pm

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In post 206, Baezu wrote:Elbirn- are you and I the only ones writing more than three words in our posts? What’s going on here town?
What are you so confused about?
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Post Post #210 (ISO) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:27 pm

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Ok yeah tris is prob scum. Yes mafia feels like the easy wagon for scum to push for a ml
I bet Maria is scum this game
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Post Post #211 (ISO) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:33 pm

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I just wanted to hear more from em.
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Post Post #212 (ISO) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:34 pm

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In post 130, MariaR wrote: Maybe I left tris out for a reason.
Is there a reason you'd like to share now?
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Post Post #213 (ISO) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:39 pm

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Yeah, I was scumreading you most in the game but considering you were one of the active players who was getting tr I wanted to see you post a bit more. Pretty simple
I bet Maria is scum this game
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Post Post #214 (ISO) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:09 pm

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What were you scum reading me for at that point?
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Post Post #215 (ISO) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 3:21 pm

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In post 203, Invisibility wrote:bruh moment
VOTE: volxen
Can you explain why you voted for volxen?
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Post Post #216 (ISO) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:38 pm

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In post 170, insomnia wrote:Roster town
why is roster town?

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In post 176, Elbirn wrote:And I think that's largely where we are at. I'm having difficulty seeing where you're coming from on this because, stating the obvious, you and I have radically different play styles, and I've attributed you making a mountain out of a molehill to being disingenuous when no you're just like this.
elbirn this bit is reminding me a bit of last game where you were having a hard time with ank because you couldn't understand her solve or where she was coming from

i guess the difference between that game and this game is that here you seem so much more .... frustrated? angrier almost? and i'm not sure where this is stemming from
In post 176, Elbirn wrote:I feel like I'm just over here trying to play a normal game
and there's at least 3 super try hards in here ready
and waiting to crawl inside everyones assholes over every bit of minutiae and I'm like fvxking ughhhhhh
does this include me?

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In post 178, Elbirn wrote:
In post 167, Enigma wrote:guys what happened to rvs and where did the walls come from
In post 168, Enigma wrote:sorry was going to read tonight but ran out of time, ill catch up over the next few days
Respectfully, you couldn't read 7 pages in the 3 hours between these posts?
I understand if you have things going on irl but please come play the game, you beetlejuicing into here and then not doing anything is a bad look
imo there were a few people who made meh-ish rvs posts similar to beazu's on p1, including you and enigma. of the three i think enigma's entrance was holistically the worst because it just ... never really developed into anything beyond that one rvs post

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In post 180, Baezu wrote:Honestly, invisibility did that too.

I’m not really sure why there is so much lurking...
i dont' think there's been an excessive amount of lurking for this stage of the game.

also can you clarify: what do you think vizzy did?
In post 183, Baezu wrote:I was really just trying to engage a lurker- that was it
do u think he's active lurking?

also is yes mafia supposed to be an alt/spoof/whatever of not_mafia, because if yes that'll change how i read him
In post 184, Baezu wrote:You don’t need to bugger off, it’s pretty clear you’re town and you are trying to generate activity and unify town.
I appreciate having strong players like that in my game! It’s great for town!
a) why is elbirn clearly town?
b) the bolded feels buddying-y

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i forgot to say this this morning but i have minor townlean on ofrhz

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In post 185, Yes Mafia wrote:I think theres scum in at least 1 of insomnia/gl/rooster/skittles
do tell
and while you're at it you can explain where you got this grouping from and also why you voted insomnia

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In post 188, Invisibility wrote:VOTE: yes
ok this is a good vote
vizzy i'm not really tracking most of your votes rn

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In post 201, light_ganski wrote:Yes Mafia (6) - volxen, Baezu, skitter30, Invisibility, rosterfoster, tris
i don't much like this wagon
volxen i think was an rvs vote

beazu said they voted to push a lurker but unless they think yes mafia is active-lurking this is kinda a useless vote-park because a lurker won't see the wagon-building on them; there's actual content now to engage with and to form vote-worhty scumreads on

i voted yes mafia because his vote on insomnia was kinda gross

roster and vizzy's votes were kinda bandwagon-y and i don't entirely understand why they happened

and tris:
In post 207, tris wrote:UNVOTE:

Oh, I was not paying attention to the vote count!
In post 208, tris wrote:Actually, VOTE: Yes Mafia It's L-2 now so I'm not worried about an early lynch.
a) why are you voting yes mafia rn?

b) this post feels like you want to keep the numbers on the wagon up but don't want to be held responsible for a lynch happening

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Post Post #217 (ISO) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:12 pm

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In post 154, ofrhz wrote:
In post 137, GuiltyLion wrote: also unpack this for me: what do you think the interactions are between rooster and I, S-T or S-S?

like
- do you think we're scum together and we decided to open with him sheeping me, then us mutually agreeing it was a good vote? why is that likely, especially considering how unlikely it is a priori that we're both scum?
- do you think he's scum sheeping misguided town!me?
- do you think I'm scum and he's the misguided town? in which case your reasons for scumreading him were wrong to begin with?


I'm not really seeing which of any of these makes sense from a town!you.
A few of GL’s pushes come off as a bit reachy so far. This quote is good example

At this point in the game, it’s fairly common for people to focus on coming up with independent scumreads (and for these scumreads to change later) and not really think about partners or the scumteam together. With this in mind, I don't see why the two bolded lines can't make sense?

This push seems reasonable on a superficial level but doesn't come off as arguing in good faith

VOTE: GuiltyLion
Even if you don’t agree with his push here, why do you think it was made in “bad faith”? He wasn’t strictly talking about himself and Roster as a scumteam, he was asking Elbirn essentially why he thinks a combination of either scum!GL and town!Roster or scum!Roster and town!GL is likely. If GL is town that means he is sincere in his townread of Roster, so it makes sense for him to ask Elbirn why he thinks at least one of {GL, Roster} is scum, does it not? And how Elbirn responds to those questions will help GL to read his slot as well. He’s not suggesting that Elbirn shouldn’t have individual scumreads.

The bolded questions in the post you quoted are fine, there is nothing disingenuous about them.
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Post Post #218 (ISO) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:26 pm

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In post 217, volxen wrote:The bolded questions in the post you quoted are fine, there is nothing disingenuous about them.
The disingenuous part is the "I'm not really seeing which of any of these makes sense from a town!you."

I don't see why the two bolded scenarios don't make sense for someone with independent scumreads on GL and roster

I think I said why it doesn't come off as in bad faith?
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Post Post #219 (ISO) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:35 pm

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I'm actually fine with the Yes Mafia wagon despite not being on it

I can understand the reluctance around not putting him at L-1 so early though, since that puts them in claim and lolhammer territory

Still tr'ing tris
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Post Post #220 (ISO) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:37 pm

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I agree with MariaR, but YM voted for a no-lynch and then voted to lynch me when I was being pressured

Why’d you do that YM?

Skitter, I’ve been playing since the middle of february on site and off-site I have a lot of years of Town of Salem

This is going to be one of my bad games cuz I got tunneled and I couldn’t focus on actual scum

YM is a good vote for the simple reason that he’s far scummier than I am and for the that no-lynch vote followed by mine.

Aleo, his scum reads are pretty bad and he has only 3 posts if I’m not mistaken

It is town’s job to get rid of the scummiest town and it is scum’s job to get rid of the towniest.

I’ll wait 24 hrs for a claim from Ym and then I’m voting.
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Post Post #221 (ISO) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:41 pm

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I'm not ready to end the day right now (or in 24 hours from now)
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Post Post #222 (ISO) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:45 pm

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In post 176, Elbirn wrote:And I think that's largely where we are at. I'm having difficulty seeing where you're coming from on this because, stating the obvious, you and I have radically different play styles, and I've attributed you making a mountain out of a molehill to being disingenuous when no you're just like this.
elbirn this bit is reminding me a bit of last game where you were having a hard time with ank because you couldn't understand her solve or where she was coming from

i guess the difference between that game and this game is that here you seem so much more .... frustrated? angrier almost? and i'm not sure where this is stemming from
I'm kind of thinking it's town. I've never seen scum!elbirn though.

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Wait, it says in this game that Yes Mafia is a hydra?

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a) why are you voting yes mafia rn?
I was unsatisfied with and wanted to push em to say more.
b) this post feels like you want to keep the numbers on the wagon up but don't want to be held responsible for a lynch happening
I just don't want a quick lynch. Also I don't necessarily scumread Yes. I just wanted to put pressure on em. Didn't realize there were so many votes already.

Yes is in a pile of nulls that I want to sort.

Pedit: interesting post by insomnia
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Post Post #223 (ISO) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:46 pm

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In post 220, insomnia wrote:I agree with MariaR, but YM voted for a no-lynch and then voted to lynch me when I was being pressured

Why’d you do that YM?

Skitter, I’ve been playing since the middle of february on site and off-site I have a lot of years of Town of Salem

This is going to be one of my bad games cuz I got tunneled and I couldn’t focus on actual scum

YM is a good vote for the simple reason that he’s far scummier than I am and for the that no-lynch vote followed by mine.

Aleo, his scum reads are pretty bad and he has only 3 posts if I’m not mistaken

It is town’s job to get rid of the scummiest town and it is scum’s job to get rid of the towniest.

I’ll wait 24 hrs for a claim from Ym and then I’m voting.
You know it's not L-1.
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Post Post #224 (ISO) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:47 pm

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I said I’ll vote not hammer
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