911: What's Your Emergency? (Postgame)

[tris]

Then, why do you need em to claim?

[tris]

@ofrhz, why do you scumread Invisible?

[volxen]

The bolded questions in the post you quoted are fine, there is nothing disingenuous about them.

The disingenuous part is the "I'm not really seeing which of any of these makes sense from a town!you."

I don't see why the two bolded scenarios don't make sense for someone with independent scumreads on GL and roster

I think I said why it doesn't come off as in bad faith?

I don't think GL was trying to say anything regarding independent scumreads vs scumteams, just that he didn't understand why Elbirn was individually scumreading either of them. The two bolded scenarios do make sense if Elbirn is scumreading one or both of them, but GL was just asking why that was the case in the first place.

The "I'm not really seeing which of any of these makes sense from a town!you" is a bit over zealous, because it's written in such a way so as to suggest that both GL and Roster are obvtown and that this shouldn't be questioned. Obviously, that is a debatable point. I don't think I would go so far as to say it's disingenuous, if GL believes that he and Roster have both been "obvtown" then I can see town!him saying something like that. I can see all of this coming from a confident town!GL that just thinks it's "obvious" that he and Roster are both town and can't understand why Elbirn also doesn't see that.

[tris]

I'm suddenly feeling a bit to tired to focus right now. Goodnight.

[ofrhz]

@ofrhz, why do you scumread Invisible?

I think he has ignored a lot of the main conversation going on and instead chose to vote for lurkers, who are always easy pushes to make. Also kind of gutreading him as awkward

Another reason why I originally voted him was also bc he said he thought could've been 1 scum in {Elbirn, GL} and then later chose to vote Enigma while not giving a read on either Elbirn or GL, though he later said he was tr'ing both so I'm not sure on this point anymore.

[ofrhz]

I don't think GL was trying to say anything regarding independent scumreads vs scumteams, just that he didn't understand why Elbirn was individually scumreading either of them. The two bolded scenarios do make sense if Elbirn is scumreading one or both of them, but GL was just asking why that was the case in the first place.

The "I'm not really seeing which of any of these makes sense from a town!you" is a bit over zealous, because it's written in such a way so as to suggest that both GL and Roster are obvtown and that this shouldn't be questioned. Obviously, that is a debatable point. I don't think I would go so far as to say it's disingenuous, if GL believes that he and Roster have both been "obvtown" then I can see town!him saying something like that. I can see all of this coming from a confident town!GL that just thinks it's "obvious" that he and Roster are both town and can't understand why Elbirn also doesn't see that.

1) I think we have different interpretations of GL's original post

2) Re: "I'm not really seeing which of any of these makes sense from a town!you"
I read this as "you're scum because you have two scumreads but none of these partner associations with the two of us make sense." I think that's unfair because early reads are volatile and subject to change, so having scumreads on two people who don't make sense as scum together is fine

[insomnia]

Then, why do you need em to claim?

So we don’t lynch him while he’s afk because he might be an important role?

Being cautious of a lolhammer?

Just because it’s written in suggestions it doesn’t mean you have to place intent only when hammering

[ofrhz]

I'm not townreading skitter yet, which is concerning

[insomnia]

Why, is he usually an easy tr?

[ofrhz]

Long summary short is that she would be posting more frequently and engaging directly with people in a real-time manner if she were town

[ofrhz]

*long story short

yeah I'm going to bed too

[tris]

I'm not townreading skitter yet, which is concerning

Long summary short is that she would be posting more frequently and engaging directly with people in a real-time manner if she were town

This makes sense to me based on the game I played with her recently, and what I've seen of her elsewhere. I did get slight townpings off of a post earlier, but I would like to see something a bit more. She is a player I want to townread because she's a good town player.

[Yes Mafia]

UNVOTE:

[insomnia]

[insomnia]

VOTE: Yes Mafia

[tris]

Hmm

VOTE: Invisibility

Pedit: What...

[Yes Mafia]

VOTE: tris

[tris]

???

[Elbirn]

*yawn*

[tris]

Why aren't you voting anyone Elbrin?

[Elbirn]

I dont really feel like it

Which is probably a hint that I need to try harder

I dont actually have confidence in anyone being scum

Just a bunch of fledgling townreads and lurkers I want to talk more

[Elbirn]

Actually that's not even entirely true

I keep asking questions that go unanswered and then I'm like "I guess I'll just wait then"

How am I to be confident when people wont talk

[rosterfoster]

Really sticking your neck out there aren’t you YM?

What did you mean by this?

VOTE: Yes

And what prompted this vote, aside from what you were replying to?

Says llikely one scum from random group of 4 players where > 1/4 of players are scum (taking him as town means exactly 1/3 are scum fhpov).

That is fluffy fluff.

[rosterfoster]

I meant to say about, and I meant to say 1/4.

[rosterfoster]

Ok yeah tris is prob scum. Yes mafia feels like the easy wagon for scum to push for a ml

Like what's actually wrong with jumping on a wagon?

I felt that was townie.