911: What's Your Emergency? (Postgame)

[ofrhz]

so yes mafia seems to be a hydra of NotMafia and someone else ...

noting that the one other game they have on that hydra was trollytrolly with self-vote with a D1 lynch and then them flipping mafia, im not sure im keen for a vote on yesmafia rn:

1. they provide entertainment

2. shit associatives post flip
3. someone should cop/vig that shit

Is anyone entertained by yes mafia’s play this game?

Serious question

Reason #1 is an interesting justification for keeping yes mafia around

[ofrhz]

Sup skitz!

[skitter30]

YM you have (expired on 2019-04-07 01:02:59) to claim

Or I’m giving you the almighty hammer

Oooo really not liking this post.

1) you’re already voting him
2) you can’t hammer because he’s at L-2.

So basically you’re just trying to out a role claim?!

Not cool, my esteemed friend

VOTE: insomnia

this is bad too.
insomnia's view towards mafia is basically taht it's better to mislynch a player like town!yes mafia early on than to keep them around as mislynch bait that scum will try to lynch at game-critical moments later in the game (like, say, lylo). from this mindset of optimal mafia play, it makes sense for insomnia to push get him out of the game now, *even if he thinks he's town* (as opposed to letting his mislynch happen in three dayphases now, or letting him screw up lylo because he's still around) - and i think that despite having this pov, he'd prefer to let town!yes mafia stay around for a bit if he's a strong pr

you might disagree with him on a theoretical level but *from the pov that he's playing from* his push on yes mafia makes sense and i don't think it's scummy in this context

pedit hi ofrhz!

[ofrhz]

why do you think yes mafia is not mafia

Yeah I don’t think NM is actually part of the hydra either

[skitter30]

Do you think scum-somnia would be so transparent about wanting to force role claims?

no, i don't think so

Do you think scum-somnia would be so transparent about wanting to force role claims?

no but more so, i cant see any town motivation for why he would try to force a role claim

yes, but lack of town motivation != scum, and i thtink it's fallacious to push someone for this

[skitter30]

why do you think yes mafia is not mafia

Yeah I don’t think NM is actually part of the hydra either

yeah if anything i think it might be meant to be a nm spoof accoutn but i dont' think not mafia is actually associated with it

and again how i read them would change if it is indeed a nm spoof account but as time goes on i'm not really getting the vibe that it is

[skitter30]

VOTE: enigma

[Enigma]

re YM
see here:

viewtopic.php?f=84&t=77984

from OP:
Yes Mafia (anonymous hydra)

see the ingame speculation and also the posts - reckon it is a NM hydra .. though not confirmed

[Enigma]

some initial townleads

ofrhz - meta
chicken - interactions with insomnia
tris - nothing specific, just general game play (and also 72)
maria - interactions with gl, particularly 173

thats enough on this list for now

these are kinda confusing given that your'e using associatives to justify townreads without explaining your reads on the people they have associatives with

what about chicken's interactions with insomnia are townie? why is 173 townie?

i know that enigma sometimes wont' post for a couple of days at a time from prior games; im not sure that the late entrance is inherently ai; what's more bothering me is that when he's here his posts are very lackluster.

i realise i am usually prefer not to try to communicate my scum reads when its just a gut, so therefore, it might not make a lot of sense my read list and associatives
from my catchup read, i sr gl and insomnia, and therefore tr the others based on their interactions and agreeing with their thoughts

[ofrhz]

Idk might as well just ask this outright

@yes mafia: is one of your heads performer?

[Enigma]

so yes mafia seems to be a hydra of NotMafia and someone else ...

noting that the one other game they have on that hydra was trollytrolly with self-vote with a D1 lynch and then them flipping mafia, im not sure im keen for a vote on yesmafia rn:

1. they provide entertainment

2. shit associatives post flip
3. someone should cop/vig that shit

Is anyone entertained by yes mafia’s play this game?

Serious question

Reason #1 is an interesting justification for keeping yes mafia around

no, but i like not seeing the trolly trolly wars NM gets into if it is him

[ofrhz]

Idk might as well just ask this outright

@yes mafia: is one of your heads performer?

I guess one of the heads being performer doesn’t mean the other isn’t not mafia

It’s kind of a hilarious duo though for some reason lol

[ofrhz]

why are you townreading tris?
i think that her vote on the wagon was quite awful and indicative of trying to ensure that the wagon stayed within lynch-range

I didn’t really see her vote that way

I think she voted to keep up the pressure on someone who was periodically popping in but not being very towny. I can see why she unvoted at L-1 to avoid a lolhammer or something, but I generally agree with not backing down from pressuring a wagon when the person being wagoned hasn’t towned it up (so her unvoting at L-1 but revoting to put yes at L-2 makes sense to me). I think her vote on yes also tracks with her statements that she had a bunch of null reads but no strong scumreads at the time.

I think she’s town because a lot of her thoughts mirror mine to the point where I think they’re unlikely to be faked

[insomnia]

I sure like me some people that defend ObVtOwN like me, skitter’s good to keep around

Lynch pool for today is YM / Enigma.

Enigma, I’m a mechanical player. Your justification makes no sense. Mine does. OwO

[insomnia]

Enigma looks like he’s trying to get massive town points for defending someone that shouldn’t even be defended

Vig/cop enigma - this is a good use of cop check / vig shot, as opposed to that Ym shit you are pulling off

[insomnia]

I still want to lynch YM though

[ofrhz]

so yes mafia seems to be a hydra of NotMafia and someone else ...

noting that the one other game they have on that hydra was trollytrolly with self-vote with a D1 lynch and then them flipping mafia, im not sure im keen for a vote on yesmafia rn:

1. they provide entertainment

2. shit associatives post flip
3. someone should cop/vig that shit

Is anyone entertained by yes mafia’s play this game?

Serious question

Reason #1 is an interesting justification for keeping yes mafia around

no, but i like not seeing the trolly trolly wars NM gets into if it is him

Didn’t you get really pissed off at not mafia for mislynching you in The Lab?

[ofrhz]

Insomnia can you explain why you tr baezu?

[insomnia]

With that vote on me, he can get lynched as well

[insomnia]

Looking at his iso he’s more of a fence-sitter, he’s not game solving but rather he’s asking people questions to estabilish if that person’s push will come off as suspicious for him, he’s just waiting to pounce on someone

YM still a better lynch though

[tris]

YM you have (expired on 2019-04-07 01:02:59) to claim

Or I’m giving you the almighty hammer

Oooo really not liking this post.

1) you’re already voting him
2) you can’t hammer because he’s at L-2.

So basically you’re just trying to out a role claim?!

Not cool, my esteemed friend

VOTE: insomnia

This seems like an easy vote to make.

I just don't want a quick lynch. Also I don't necessarily scumread Yes. I just wanted to put pressure on em. Didn't realize there were so many votes already.

Yes is in a pile of nulls that I want to sort.

yeah so like this is the bit that i'm having trouble with
i don't get why you're ok with being on his l-2 wagon but not with being on his l-1 wagon if you want to presure him. if your'e just going to unvote if he gets to l-1 it kinda mitigates the pressure on him since you've broadcasted that you're going to unovte if another vote happens

My unvote was more of a reaction to seeing that I had accidentally put Yes at L-1 without realizing it and without announcing it. I wasn't opposed to it being brought to L-1 as long as people are aware of the fact.

why did tris vote me

like this

and not unvote
I voted volxen because he shaded someone early then did jack s word

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
VOTE: yes
don’t claim or I will suck your shoes like pasta

vizzy you're votes this game are all really awkward. and like awkwardly timed too.
you just placed him at l-1 here (after saying you were willing to hammer) - why are you telling him not to claim? if you want him lynched i think it would be a lot better to get a claim first. if you're telling him not to claim because you dont' want the wagon to get lynched why did you l-1 him?

That was L-2.

I am a bit worried about that myself, but I unsure of where else to go at the moment.

I don't think Enigma is a good vote. Either they'll show up and produce content to read, or they'll be replaced.

isn't your vote on yes mafia basically a pressure vote? what's the difference between voting yes mafia and engima rn

Because Yes was around while enigma wasn't.

i sr gl

Explain? Because I really disagree with this one.

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I still think insomnia is town. Someone explain why he's not? What is the reason for this wagon?

I'm not really a fan of the composition of the insomnia wagon.

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How do I read Invisibility?

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I don't know about Enigma. I disagree with his scumreads, but disagreement doesn't equal scum.

[tris]

With that vote on me, he can get lynched as well

Looking at his iso he’s more of a fence-sitter, he’s not game solving but rather he’s asking people questions to estabilish if that person’s push will come off as suspicious for him, he’s just waiting to pounce on someone

YM still a better lynch though

So, you're changing your read on Baezu?

[Baezu]

I still want to lynch YM though

What about YM makes you think they’re scum, though?

[insomnia]

I’m trying to figure out if what I’ve said was suspicious enough for a town to do a complete 180 and vote them

But, for your pleasure, my town read on him slowly but surely goes away. I’m waiting for more content from him before I can estabilish a final read

[insomnia]

I still want to lynch YM though

What about YM makes you think they’re scum, though?

I already have a case and people have already discussed this

Please game solve on your own and stop fence-sitting before I choose to vote you instead of YM

This will probaby happen either way

Lynch list : YM -> Enigma -> Baezu

^ in case I die