Mini Normal 2062: Erinnerungen (um game over)

[Dr Easy Bake]

"I don’t think you’re scum so we should work together."
This line is bad, bad to the bone.

[Zulfy]

VOTE COUNT 5 . 2

L84Dnr

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murdered at night

wilky

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murdered by Insomnia, Shiidaji, RAS, Flavor Leaf, u r a person 2, The Last Knight, and Dr Easy Bake

Vedith

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Shiidaji

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murdered at night

Chara

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RAS

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The Last Knight

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murdered by insomnia, Vedith, Shiidaji, u r a person 2, Dr Easy Bake, and Flavor Leaf

Dr Easy Bake

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Flavor Leaf

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murdered by RAS, emperor flippyNips, L84DNR, Flavor Leaf

u r a person 2

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murdered at night

Emperor flippyNips

- RAS

Insomnia

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murdered by L84Dnr, u r a person 2, Flavor Leaf, and Vedith

Creature

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murdered at night

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Not Voting

- Chara, Emperor flippyNips, Dr Easy Bake, Vedith

With 5 alive,

it takes 3 to Lynch

[RAS]

I'm disliking how slow this game is going, but what can you do. I've skimmed through the game a bit again to see if I'd see things any different, and I still feel confident that the scum is in {Flippy/Vedith}.

VOTE: Emperor flippyNips.

I’m a waste of time I’m town. I don’t think you’re scum so we should work together. It’d be really crazy if you’re scum & have been playing the way you have right now. Coming in immediately and parking your vote on flavor which made me feel more certain on killing flavor. Although I was riding off of what person had said

I don't particularly think it'd be crazy if I were scum here considering the lynch yesterday was going to be FL unless a huge amount of overthinking went down. It's very possible that this lynch is a waste of time however I don't see myself lynching Chara or DEB today unless something drastic happens. My only options with my current reads are to lynch you or to lynch Vedith who would be a sub-optimal lynch considering his claim.

I should put more effort into reading Vedith, but I'd rather focus on something that will happen today as opposed to something we only need to worry about the next day. I hope to see Vedith put more effort into this game in the next few days, and hopefully, I can get some reads on him off of that. I don't particularly like how he's scum-reading both of my town-reads in Post 1792, but I'll wait for his explanation before going into it.

[Vedith]

You realise I can't be Scum here mechanically alone.
The

only

way I kill over FL as Scum is as a goon.

And with what town has (vig, 2 town clears, watcher which is the strongest role) let alone doc Scum do not have all vanilla.

I just finished a game where I was more or less confirmed as town in LyLo and was still pushed. It's not happening this time and Nips is town.

[RAS]

You realise I can't be Scum here mechanically alone.
The

only

way I kill over FL as Scum is as a goon.

And with what town has (vig, 2 town clears, watcher which is the strongest role) let alone doc Scum do not have all vanilla.

I just finished a game where I was more or less confirmed as town in LyLo and was still pushed. It's not happening this time and Nips is town.

I've seen crazier things happen, and I wouldn't it put past FL to have you perform the night-kill. Again, it's not something I'll worry about today, but we both know that that's not the only way you're scum here.

Why is Nips town?

[RAS]

You realise I can't be Scum here mechanically alone.
The

only

way I kill over FL as Scum is as a goon.

And with what town has (vig, 2 town clears, watcher which is the strongest role) let alone doc Scum do not have all vanilla.

I just finished a game where I was more or less confirmed as town in LyLo and was still pushed. It's not happening this time and Nips is town.

...

I wouldn't put it past FL to have you perform the night-kill

...

EBWOP.

[Vedith]

I've seen crazier things happen, and I wouldn't it put past FL to have you perform the night-kill. Again, it's not something I'll worry about today, but we both know that that's not the only way you're scum here.

Why is Nips town?

I disagree, that only should clear me.
Nips reminds me of the game I just.finished with him as town, he also played like it in one recently where I was Scum.

His posting to FL is town for me too.

[Vedith]

I know I sound like a broken record but I'm going to do some proper posting tomorrow as I'm off this weekend \o/

[Chara]

hello everyone, sorry about this.
echoing Vedith here. and yes i will give a better look at Vedith/Flavor interactions too.

[Emperor flippyNips]

I’ve only really dug into RAS and want to think he’s town, off of memory chara is town to me but it probably wouldn’t hurt to dig a bit. I want to trust vedith and that was before he said I’m town so it’s not just cos of the pocket. Honesty bake I thought from the beginning had scum in him but I didn’t want him to die early on, then he started to get townie. So once I’m done digging I’ll drop my vote on who I think should die

[RAS]

Disappointed with this (lack of) activity.

[RAS]

I'll worry about the Vedith stuff tomorrow if it comes down to it. It's very possible that I'm looking at the potential setup wrong.

Either way, I think Flippy is the best lynch today, and I don't particularly like Vedith's reasoning about him being town since it seems to be purely based on meta in Post 1806. I would think that this late in a game, you would town-read him for specific things he has done and said in this game, as opposed to a pure meta-read.

I feel like I'm forcing myself to say things due to the lack of activity, and no matter how many times I go back and read this game, I don't really collect anything worth noting. My thoughts on this game haven't changed one bit, and I don't see them changing.

I hope to see some new posts overnight because I feel like I'm playing by myself.

[Emperor flippyNips]

You’ll see them change when I bleed green

[RAS]

I don't disagree, but I'm also not lynching Chara or DEB today. Considering how many times I've gone through this game during this drought, something drastic would have to happen to change my mind.

[Emperor flippyNips]

I don’t feel like there’s any reason to hold my role so close I’ve used all my shots anyways
I’m a JOAT.
The only real use I got out of it was I confirmed person was town after night 2 when he said he used his role on flavor because I saw him do it.

[RAS]

UNVOTE: Flippy.

Wait, doesn't this confirm that scum is in between you and Vedith, then? I really doubt the town has this many PR's.

[RAS]

There's no way town had 6 PR's while scum had 2 goons, a traitor, and whatever they have left. The town has at most 5 PR's. I'm counting the informed Townie has a PR here, but still, that's way too many. That would be INCREDIBLY town-sided.

Scum has to be between you and Vedith, no? Someone correct me if I'm wrong here.

[RAS]

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I'm counting the informed Townie has a PR here

...

EBWOP.

Can you list all your night actions, Flippy?

[RAS]

...

I'm counting the informed Townie as a PR here

...

EBWOP.

Double EBWOP cause I'm an idiot.

Even if you don't count the Informed Townie as a PR here, that's still 5 PR's vs. 2 Goons and a Traitor. There's no role that scum could be in that last slot that would outweigh all of these PR's, unless there's something I'm missing. I refuse to believe that that's the case. The already flipped PR's were pretty powerful, the fact that you're now adding a JOAT until it all doesn't make any sense to me.

Although, I find it hard to believe that Flippy would claim JOAT here as scum since it'd be such an odd play. I'm not familiar with how setups are made on here, but I can't be the only one who thinks this would be far too town-sided to even be a setup in the first place? I think last scum is 100% in {Flippy/Vedith}.

[RAS]

With that said...

VOTE: Vedith.

[Emperor flippyNips]

First night I followed shiidaji cos I didn’t like the way they played I saw them do nothing
Second night I tracked person & saw him target fl
Third night I used voyeur on person again cos I thought it’d tell me who killed him but all I got was he was killed

[RAS]

Do you agree that scum has to be in {you/Vedith} with everything that I just said? This would be way too many town PR's, regardless of how powerful the last scum role might be.

[RAS]

Vedith should agree with me here when I say that there's no way this setup still has 2 PR's alive.

Vedith, do you still believe your statements made in Post 1734/Post 1803 be true now with Flippy's JOAT claim?

Specifically:
– "

For town to have as much as we have let alone without my role it means that Scum have some serious power.

"
– "

And setup alone proves me as town here.

"
–"

And with what town has (vig, 2 town clears, watcher which is the strongest role) let alone doc Scum do not have all vanilla.

"

Also, Post 1736 adds up with Flippy's claim here. It's right after Vedith's doctor claim, and it shows a very genuine sign of paranoia.

[RAS]

Flippy, are your powers one-shot? What were all of your powers?

[Emperor flippyNips]

Yeah one shot.
Voyeur
Tracker
Follower

Yeah everything you’ve said makes sense

VOTE: vedith