Mini Normal 2062: Erinnerungen (um game over)

[Dr Easy Bake]

VOTE: Icy Nips

[Emperor flippyNips]

That’s a fail for town

[Emperor flippyNips]

I F'n hate this website cause I tried to go back to the night where URAP died before writing all of that, and Flippy should've seen Vedith visit URAP that night considering that L84Dnr saw Vedith visit URAP.

This should confirm Flippy as scum here. I think you would agree, Vedith.

VOTE: Flippy.

Read Post 1512 and Post 1820.

Either way, this game is won.

Why would I of seen vedith visit person when I targeted person???

I would of had to target vedith to see that he visited person

[Emperor flippyNips]

I'm not clearing Vedith. My gut says he's town but my PR says he's scum.

The PR's gave me a soft guilty. I'm simply acknowledging that my read may have been tampered with. Vedith may have popped in to say "Hi" to URAP last night for entirely innocent reasons and somebody (Ninja, Ascetic, etc...) that I can't track was responsible for the NK.

This is precisely the same line of reasoning that you've been using to infer JOATs, ascetics, blockers, stoppers, etc... so calling me for it is pretty damned odd.

Bottom line: We have soft guilties because we know that scum may have PRs that can mess with our results. The exact nature of those scum PRs isn't something that we can determine without further information, so speculating about what they might be isn't really getting us anywhere.

Are y’all talking about this? This is the only time I see that L8 mentions vedith

[Emperor flippyNips]

If you're town here Nips this is the second game in a row you are voting me when I'm more or less confirmed town.

In case I see you are town when I’m dead.
Whoops. I don’t trust most people the whole game even when person first came on the scene talking about his pr I didn’t trust him. I went along with it we lynched scum then I targeted him in hopes so I could see the last scum but I used the wrong ability I guess, first time being a JOAT. It made sense to vote you cos why is there that many prs in this game

[Emperor flippyNips]

Nips is not going to prevent his lynch as town.

Nah cos I was fuckin sleeping. Not much I can do there.W

When I put you at L-1 I stated it cos I still wanted to hear from you still to more or less confirm it. If you’re scum I wanted to see how you’d wiggle out of it.
I really don’t see how there’s that many PR’s for town so even tho I was kinda cozy in your pocket that didn’t make sense so I voted you too

[Zulfy]

Coming soon

[Zulfy]

VOTE COUNT 5 . 3

L84Dnr

-

murdered at night

wilky

-

murdered by Insomnia, Shiidaji, RAS, Flavor Leaf, u r a person 2, The Last Knight, and Dr Easy Bake

Vedith

- Emperor flippyNips

Shiidaji

-

murdered at night

Chara

-

RAS

-

The Last Knight

-

murdered by insomnia, Vedith, Shiidaji, u r a person 2, Dr Easy Bake, and Flavor Leaf

Dr Easy Bake

-

Flavor Leaf

-

murdered by RAS, emperor flippyNips, L84DNR, Flavor Leaf

u r a person 2

-

murdered at night

Emperor flippyNips

- RAS, Vedith, Dr Easy Bake

LYNCHED

Insomnia

-

murdered by L84Dnr, u r a person 2, Flavor Leaf, and Vedith

Creature

-

murdered at night

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Not Voting

- Chara

[Zulfy]

Nah cos I was fuckin sleeping

I should have done this earlier

So many to choose from
I had to admit
So many to examine
I kept wasting it
So much to consider
I fell in a pit

What happened when you got out?

I wake up and check my phone. I missed it again.

Hmm yea it was a real fuck up

Emperor flippyNips

, a

Town

Jack of All Trades

(

Voyeur

,

Follower

,

Tracker

)

, dropped out.

Night 5 begins now. Ends as soon as all remaining PR(s) make their decision(s).

[Zulfy]

Phone ringing

I'm awake

Need to piss

Not tired, no need to stay here

What's that thing Marcus Aurelius said?

Doesn't matter

I'll just....

....
...

..
..
.

wait here

Day 6 begins now

[Vedith]

So given I said I was protecting RAS I knew scum would only kill there if they could get past me and I protected Chara.

I thought scum either kill me or kill Chara here and DEB is most likely scum and I was most likely right. So Chara should be confirmed town here.

So to confirm.
If Ras is scum they don't kill there and most likely go for Chara.
If Chara is scum then I probably get killed and my power means nothing.
If DEB is scum they kill me or Chara.

I'm helping \o/

[Vedith]

So I'm pretty sure its DEB scum here.

[Vedith]

So I'm not sure if it's the best play to no lynch and go into LyLo 3p or just lynch given that Chara is always killed tonight.

The only thing it clears is if Chara for some reason no killed but I'm not sure why that ever happens with RAS wanting to lynch me (making scum Chara actually kill DEB over me)

[Vedith]

In fact the only play possible last night was that Chara was attacked.
Their position doesn't strongly side with anyone and their death doesn't really effect the lynch today anyway.

[Zulfy]

VOTE COUNT 6 . 1

L84Dnr

-

murdered at night

wilky

-

murdered by Insomnia, Shiidaji, RAS, Flavor Leaf, u r a person 2, The Last Knight, and Dr Easy Bake

Vedith

-

Shiidaji

-

murdered at night

Chara

-

RAS

-

The Last Knight

-

murdered by insomnia, Vedith, Shiidaji, u r a person 2, Dr Easy Bake, and Flavor Leaf

Dr Easy Bake

-

Flavor Leaf

-

murdered by RAS, emperor flippyNips, L84DNR, Flavor Leaf

u r a person 2

-

murdered at night

Emperor flippyNips

-

murdered by RAS, Vedith, Dr Easy Bake

Insomnia

-

murdered by L84Dnr, u r a person 2, Flavor Leaf, and Vedith

Creature

-

murdered at night

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Not Voting

- Vedith, Chara, RAS, Dr Easy Bake

With 4 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

[Vedith]

I'm going to bed soon bit I don't want any speed lynch while I'm off.

Again, I'm going to clarify. I only make the kill on URA if I'm ever Goon. I can link all my scum games to prove that I wouldn't as a standard play put myself in risk of being seen. I even have a scum game with me and fL.

Even if I didn't exist in this game, the town power proven means scum have a very strong role.
Earlier on the game someone said that ninja doesn't make sense with a watcher. I disagree completely as once that role is dead, scum have nothing to go by.
And with how the events went I know from my PoV that scum had a Stromgman and ninja in a single role. With town having a 3role JOAT that highly favours a 3 role JOAT as sum too imo. So I would say Strongman, roleblocker/rolestopper and role cop (most likely for the traitor).

I need to see who the scum favoured to protect early game as they obviously would never want their team mate killed.

And to confirm, I spec setup nearly every game, and majority of the time I'm in the right ball park.
Last game I was right with the roles, it was just misjudged because a town claimed jailor when they were VT where I correctly said that Jailor doesn't fit the setup.

[Vedith]

Night \o/

[Vedith]

Also everyone should claim today.

[Chara]

hi friends. extremely sorry for my absence last game day. i don't know if it would have changed anything since i was leaning to voting Flippy, but not participating at all certainly didn't help.

rushing this day would be pointless, but i am thankful i was protected as i fully intend to find the last scum today and lynch it. going for a full look at this relatively short game is best as i haven't looked at it in a while.
i did expect i might have been killed last night, so thank you Vedith. i'm pretty townread and haven't made up my mind on who the scum is here (because i haven't really been here) so it would make sense.
i might have wondered why scum picked such an obvious kill target, but the likelihood of them believing Vedith's bluff about RAS is there.
going to look at the possibility of scum Vedith as well, but that's for completion's sake.

[Chara]

who hasn't fullclaimed besides me?
i'm going to be doing ISOs anyways, but i may as well ask.

[Chara]

wow, i really haven't been on a single lynch wagon.
things to look at first: RAS's Flavour Leaf vote, and DEB being on the two mislynches but absent from the scum ones. so, context.

but most of my thoughts right now are really hampered by how little time i've had to look at recent posts, so i'll prioritize that.

[Chara]

it should be obvious, but please don't vote yet. talk about things with me first.

[RAS]

who hasn't fullclaimed besides me?

I'm VT, and for the record, my predecessor claimed VT on Day 1 in Post 185. This isn't the action of someone who's the powerful scum role. They wouldn't claim this early since it narrows down their option so much, it's the worst thing you can do.

I'm too lazy to make a post or read right now, but I'm getting really tired of Vedith repeating himself. Nothing is clearing you, and we both know that. You keep bringing up the fact that you don't do the kill that night, even though it wouldn't even be a bad play for you to do so. It gives you credibility if you're scum, and gives you the ability to spam "hey guys, I wouldn't kill that night!" which is exactly what you're doing. Your frustration yesterday, upon reading it back, is F'n awful, and way overdone.

I'm also fairly certain this is a town loss with how little you guys have been contributing ever since I joined this game.

[RAS]

In fact the only play possible last night was that Chara was attacked.
Their position doesn't strongly side with anyone and their death doesn't really effect the lynch today anyway.

Like, what is this bullshit? It'd be a great play for scum to send in no NK here since it increases their chances to win the game if we don't end up lynching anyone.

Vedith's statement here is 100% false, and he should know that. 3-way LYLO is better for the town than 4-way LYLO. We've to read through 3 people now as opposed to reading just 2.

[RAS]

Third night I used voyeur on person again cos I thought it’d tell me who killed him but all I got was he was killed

"

The Voyeur is an informative role that can target a player at night and learn what was done to them that night (protection, investigation, etc), but not who did it.

"

Flippy saw the actions that were performed on URA. He didn't see Vedith visit. Vedith's scum and I F'n misread it yesterday.

VOTE: Vedith.

I'm not explaining this any further, this confirms Vedith as scum here.