Open 754: Fire and Ice (Game Over) Fire Mafia wins.

[ceejayvinoya]

I scumread bef and grand wazoo earlier, but the vedith flip threw me off.

My PoE right now says scum are Dr Worm and Roster.

[brassherald]

Maybe bread should have been provided as well.

Votecount 3.3

RosterFoster (1)~

BrightEyedFish

Not Voting (6)~

maadneet, Ceejayvinoya, Pinturicchio, insomnia, ‪Dr Worm, rosterfoster

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Mod Notes:

Day 3 ends in (expired on 2019-04-14 17:00:00).
maadneet and rosterfoster have been prodded
Dr Worm has failed to post in the past 2 days after having been prodded twice, and will therefore be force replaced.

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[BrightEyedFish]

Roster

Join me on Roster....

wait, am I really the only player voting so far today???

[pinturicchio]

No, I'm voting now

VOTE: insomnia

[maadneet]

So I've reread the thread.

Trying to figure out scum by PoE but aside from Pintu I'm not sure enough on anyone being town.

However, I found a couple more posts by worm that I found interesting:

ROOSTERFOO and INSTAMONIC are TOWN FREINDS in MY BRAIN!!

VEDITH is TROWN in MY HEART!!

Not sure why worm post the way he does with the heart/brain thing but it feels weird that he had these two sets separate.

VOTE: Dr Worm

[insomnia]

Given DR worm’s playstyle, I’m not sure if the heart / brain thing is indicative of anything

If he’s a newbie, I’m not sure if he would’ve pulled off that hammer thing saying “Mod please don’t count last vote and count my vote as a hammer” as scum knowing he pulled a mislynch. At least I wouldn’t have the confidence to pull that off.

[insomnia]

@mod do scum have day chat?

[rosterfoster]

Sorry guys this has been on my back burner. I'll get to it tomorrow night hopefully.

Yes, this is a shamless prodge.

[pinturicchio]

You're really taking Dr. Worm's playstyle seriously?

The way of reading Worm is reading his reads and nothing else. If there's a scummy agenda behind them, he's scum. If his reads are good, he's town. Problem is, in a multiball, that's not easy to see.

Maad's got a point, but I see that differentiation in two ways: one, Worm was gutreading Vedith instead of having a good read on him; and two, Worm knows Vedith from Merchant's Daughter, so maybe it was a way of calling his attention.

Now, it could also mean what Maad is implying: calls his partner town in an obnoxious way when Vedith was being townread already.

But! I don't judge Worm for thinking Vedith was town. I thought that in the begining. But the way insomnia is trying to get the attention on Dr. Worm going confirms my suspicions. He's asking the mod if the scumteam(s) have daytalk in order to see if Vedith gave Dr Worm the instruction to call him town; but the real intention behind that question is trying to town himself up.

Join me in lynching scum, please.

[ceejayvinoya]

VOTE: insomnia

Eh why not

[brassherald]

Succinct replaces Dr Worm. Votecount tomorrow

[brassherald]

And maybe the meats should have been fresher.

Votecount 3.4

RosterFoster (1)~

BrightEyedFish

insomnia (2) ~

ceejyavinoya, pinturicchio

succinct (1) ~

maadneet

Not Voting (3)~

insomnia, succinct, rosterfoster

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Mod Notes:

Day 3 ends in (expired on 2019-04-14 17:00:00).

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@mod do scum have day chat?

No

[ceejayvinoya]

@mod my vote is on insomnia

Sorry fixed that got your vote and Pinturicchio's vote reversed.

[BrightEyedFish]

Why isn't anyone joining me and pintu on roster.

[insomnia]

Wait pintu isn’t on me?

[insomnia]

I was asking about the day chat to see if they have organized a gw lynch in advance

It was a question to clear Dr Worm as town, not to portray him as scum

That’s why you usually wait for people to speak before you accuse them

[insomnia]

Why isn't anyone joining me and pintu on roster.

Sell me a case

[brassherald]

I think I messed up the votecount completely I'll redo it from home tonight. Sorry

[Succinct]

VOTE: BrightEyedFish
Last Fire.

Last ice's either insomnia or roster.

I assume I'll need to show homework; will cite reasons tonight.

[pinturicchio]

VOTE: insomnia just to be clear

[brassherald]

Even gods make mistakes.

Votecount 3.5

insomnia (2) ~

ceejyavinoya, pinturicchio
RosterFoster (1)~ BrightEyedFish

succinct (1) ~

maadneet

BrightEyedFish (1) ~

succinct

Not Voting (2)~

insomnia, rosterfoster

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Mod Notes:

Day 3 ends in (expired on 2019-04-14 17:00:00).
Morning Vote Counts may be at a different time than it has been in the past, I am not sure with my new work schedule.

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[ceejayvinoya]

Zzz this is boring

VOTE: Roster

[Succinct]

Ofrhz is found burned to death, in his charred hands, a blue crystal is held, but the second someone tries to take it, the crystal crumbles. He was an

Ice Mafia Goon

Held just a few feet away, seemingly cowering away from the now dead Vedith, a burnt corpse barely recognizable as RuiRui is found. He was a

Vanilla Townie

Fire kills.

Just a few feet away, Springtrap is frozen in a block of ice. Chipping him out, he's not breathing. He was a

Vanilla Townie

Today, Vedith was found with water surrounding him, frozen to death, but the ice melted in the unseasonable warmth that surrounded him, a red gem that looked like an eye falls out of his hand and burns as his body is removed. He was a

Fire Mafia Goon

Ice kills.

Kills could only come from two mutually-exclusive mindsets:
Aimed to crosskill, succeeding once and failing the other;
Aimed to hit threatening townie, succeeding once and accidentally cross-killing another.

I can't identify which method Ice was using.
There's evidence Fire was aiming for the latter. I cite the mod's iso; ofrhz was never once voted, and the only RuiRui voter was briefly BrightEyedFish (later dropped).
Suppose this hypothesis is correct; Fire aimed to kill threatening townies.

Who would be threatened by both ofrhz and RuiRui?

BrightEyedFish (1)~

RuiRui

BrightEyedFish (4)~

ofrhz, Ceejayvinoya, maadneet, Springtrap

ofrhz and RuiRui had in common ending the day voting BrightEyedFish and being Fire's nightkill immediately after.

Ergo, BrightEyedFish's last Fire Goon.

Last Ice being insomnia or rosterfoster's based on VCA:

Allomancer (7)~

Vedith, Eyes Without A Face, ‪Dr Worm, GrandWazoo, BrightEyedFish, rosterfoster,Pinturicchio

BrightEyedFish (4)~

ofrhz, Ceejayvinoya, maadneet, Springtrap

Ceejayvinoya(1)~

RuiRui

Eyes Without a Face (1)~

Allomancer

GrandWazoo (6)~

BrightEyedFish, Pinturicchio, Ceejayvinoya, Vedith, insomnia, Rosterfoster

Insomnia (1)~

GrandWazooo

maadneet (1)~

Dr Worm

BrightEyedFish (1)~

RuiRui

Not Voting (1)~

maadneet

On D1, it's doubtful ofrhz's buddy voted with them, but probable ofrhz's buddy voted a lead wagon. Eyes/Insomnia, BrightEyedFish, rosterfoster, and pinturicchio're the only options; BrightEyedFish is as established the last Fire, leaving only three names.

These three names show up on the D2 lynch wagon as well, further indicating they contain scum.
However, I eliminated pinturicchio as well, but I can't remember my reason.
There was backing to it, but I'm embarrassed I can't recall it.

[insomnia]

Thank god I didn’t have to sort Dr Worm, succint is town

If succint was scum here he would’ve went full lurker and posted shit content

I’m happy with the analysis, I can see the town thought process behind it, but, sadly, it’s ceejay / roster as ice

But BEF being fire I agree with

[insomnia]

I’m inclined to believe ceejay is ice, roster is just PoE if ceejay flips town

VOTE: BEF