911: What's Your Emergency? (Postgame)

[tris]

I think there is at least one scum between volxen, tris and invisibility. Of these, which do you think is the scum?

if you think it's a scum-driven wagon why are you voting there ...?

She's voting for Enigma.

[tris]

Skitter has been saying a lot of stuff I agree with. She might be town.

[skitter30]

I think there is at least one scum between volxen, tris and invisibility. Of these, which do you think is the scum?

if you think it's a scum-driven wagon why are you voting there ...?

She's voting for Enigma.

...
i could have sworn she was voting for yes mafia

ok
@beazu which of {volxen/tris/vizzy} do you think is scum and why?

[skitter30]

@tris is it normal for you to cast pressure votes (yes mafia and now vizzy)? i don't remember you doing that at all in nsg's game so much as you were being kinda hesitant in deciding where to vote iirc

[tris]

There was the vote on Nimueh.

[tris]

skitter, why are you voting for Enigma?

[MariaR]

I don't think anyone really cares if I catch up from 10 pages ago but you're gonna get it anyway.

[tris]

GuiltyLion, insomnia, ofrhz, Elbirn are all townreads.
Invisibility is tbd.
skitter30 I'm starting to lean town on.
Yes Mafia is...
I'd like to hear from Enigma on Baezu. Don't know how I'm reading Enigma yet though.
rosterfoster felt town to me earlier, but I would agree with others that 445 isn't great.
Baezu has been staying pretty null for me which could just turn into a scumread.
volxen hasn't left much of an impression on me.
MariaR, well I'll have to see what she says right now.

[MariaR]

What were you scum reading me for at that point?

You’re posting a lot and I certainly agree with others that you’re active, but I don’t agree that the posts you make are towny. I think what you’ve posted was decent questions that led to no where. Along with some of your recent posting that I just feel like is opportunistic stances.

I'm actually fine with the Yes Mafia wagon despite not being on it

I can understand the reluctance around not putting him at L-1 so early though, since that puts them in claim and lolhammer territory

Still tr'ing tris

I don’t think anyone minds a Yes Mafia wagon. And that’s the problem. His posting is just bland the one thing he made was saying scum was in a group of people that a lot of people are tring. I’m looking at the actions around Yes Mafia instead of at him. Because if we look at him you won’t see much and prob want to wagon him. Yet he’s not really as scummy as people are trying to make him out to be. What I see is an obvious mislynch. Maybe a bus, but I don’t think so at this point.

Ok yeah tris is prob scum. Yes mafia feels like the easy wagon for scum to push for a ml

Like what's actually wrong with jumping on a wagon?

I felt that was townie.

The way people go onto wagons and the reasoning they give all depend on if jumping on the wagon was towny or not. The way people went on Yes Mafia really game was not towny to me.

It’s town’s job to get rid of scum. Telling apart scummy town from scum is the most important job.

I want to revive your original wagon which should never have disappeared.

No, getting rid of mislynch bait, which scum want alive, is what town should do. Remember there is a possibility this is just scum. You'd argue on this with "he is so scummy that he must be town" which is plain dumb. look at his iso and tell me it's not scummy af.

tell me if you want this to get in lylo and fuck up all of your reads with only one post

tell me you want YM to place naked votes everyday without giving any reasons for them

people read lurking and scummy behavior as town on this website, which I can't get behind, sadly

So do you think Yes Mafia is mislynch bait or we're hitting scum? If he's mislynch bait who's the scum on the wagon if anyone? You can't fence sit on this stance no sir.

Few pages down a lot to go

[MariaR]

yes mafia has outgrown his smooth lynch shoes imo

what’s he at will it be hammer

Insomnia is currently a what read

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
VOTE: yes
don’t claim or I will suck your shoes like pasta

See this? This is a really bad way of jumping onto a wagon. It’s a way of leading up to joining said wagon and trying to find a reason to do so without mindlessly jumping on. If Invis was really confident about a Yes mafia vote he’d have played this another way. Instead, we have the really bad vote missed in with fake ‘oh I don’t know guys’ vibes.

I got tris/roster/elbirn/ofrhz/skitter as very likely town

volxen I wanna think is town but his townreading me was almost a little too on the nose and I wanna see some scumreads. could maybe swap with skitter but skitter has been at least unwinding some other threads in addition to hardcore townreading/defending me as well
invis I've liked his reads so far, mindmelding on read of the game feels town-indicative
insomnia has had a few genuine sounding posts
baezu has felt kinda buddy-ish at times but some of the being lost/passive vibes pure to me and not a scum front

none of those four are totally out of scum range, just not where I want to look for now. wouldn't be surprised if I'm wrong on one or a couple of them

MariaR/Yes Mafia feel like good scum candidates

Enigma isn't readable at this point

This feels like posting just for the sake of posting. His reasoning is pretty bland if you look at it. Because it’s really easy to say: ‘x is doing what I’m doing at times so prob town’ The other 2 reads are fence sitting town reads that he can easily flip back on when GL gets a mislynch and needs to go back on a dif vote. Hell he even admits it in the bottom half that makes it easier.
Then you have me and yes mafia as his scum candidates when we’ve barely had any posting.

VOTE: Enigma

come play

Top it off with the worst vote he could’ve made. On the ‘unreadable slot’ voting someone to put pressure on them isn’t going to help make someone catch up faster. It’ll just rush them. If GL was town here he’d be voting me or Yes Mafia explaining why others should join. Hell if he voted me here I’d prob of tr it, but no. He did this awful play

Ah shit, I think Enigma might be scum

Go on. Nothing they posted felt that AI to me yet.

[MariaR]

YM if you vote enigma I'm keeping you alive for today

Posts like this make me want to vote insomnia but then I look at interactions with Invis and go. ‘Yeah that’s prob not svs’ 1 scum in the 2 is where I’m at. Because to me Enigmas posting isn’t that bad. The way he’s trying to play YM on Enigma is bad though.

I’m not going to quote all of skitters posts on page 14, but they’re good posts the stances they have are well thought out as well.

why are you townreading tris?
i think that her vote on the wagon was quite awful and indicative of trying to ensure that the wagon stayed within lynch-range

I didn’t really see her vote that way

I think she voted to keep up the pressure on someone who was periodically popping in but not being very towny. I can see why she unvoted at L-1 to avoid a lolhammer or something, but I generally agree with not backing down from pressuring a wagon when the person being wagoned hasn’t towned it up (so her unvoting at L-1 but revoting to put yes at L-2 makes sense to me). I think her vote on yes also tracks with her statements that she had a bunch of null reads but no strong scumreads at the time.

I think she’s town because a lot of her thoughts mirror mine to the point where I think they’re unlikely to be faked

I think you believe this post and you’re probably town orfhz, but I don’t think you should’ve posted this and let tris talk a bit herself then saying something like this. Mostly because it gives her something to fall back on.

Enigma looks like he’s trying to get massive town points for defending someone that shouldn’t even be defended

Oh you’re gonna love my posting then. Does this make me scum too?

Thinking enigma is town

VOTE: invis

Good vote!
I'm at one of Invis/Imson with high high thinking of it being Invis because of invis posting and GL interactions GL/tris.
I know tris and GL won't be lynched today
VOTE: Invis
I think my vote was here anyway but just in case

[MariaR]

Alright all caught up. That was fun

[insomnia]

What were you scum reading me for at that point?

You’re posting a lot and I certainly agree with others that you’re active, but I don’t agree that the posts you make are towny. I think what you’ve posted was decent questions that led to no where. Along with some of your recent posting that I just feel like is opportunistic stances.

I'm actually fine with the Yes Mafia wagon despite not being on it

I can understand the reluctance around not putting him at L-1 so early though, since that puts them in claim and lolhammer territory

Still tr'ing tris

I don’t think anyone minds a Yes Mafia wagon. And that’s the problem. His posting is just bland the one thing he made was saying scum was in a group of people that a lot of people are tring. I’m looking at the actions around Yes Mafia instead of at him. Because if we look at him you won’t see much and prob want to wagon him. Yet he’s not really as scummy as people are trying to make him out to be. What I see is an obvious mislynch. Maybe a bus, but I don’t think so at this point.

Ok yeah tris is prob scum. Yes mafia feels like the easy wagon for scum to push for a ml

Like what's actually wrong with jumping on a wagon?

I felt that was townie.

The way people go onto wagons and the reasoning they give all depend on if jumping on the wagon was towny or not. The way people went on Yes Mafia really game was not towny to me.

It’s town’s job to get rid of scum. Telling apart scummy town from scum is the most important job.

I want to revive your original wagon which should never have disappeared.

No, getting rid of mislynch bait, which scum want alive, is what town should do. Remember there is a possibility this is just scum. You'd argue on this with "he is so scummy that he must be town" which is plain dumb. look at his iso and tell me it's not scummy af.

tell me if you want this to get in lylo and fuck up all of your reads with only one post

tell me you want YM to place naked votes everyday without giving any reasons for them

people read lurking and scummy behavior as town on this website, which I can't get behind, sadly

So do you think Yes Mafia is mislynch bait or we're hitting scum? If he's mislynch bait who's the scum on the wagon if anyone? You can't fence sit on this stance no sir.

Few pages down a lot to go

It flips scum.

[insomnia]

Oh you’re gonna love my posting then. Does this make me scum too?

If you defend Ym, then yeah, you can get lynched as well

[tris]

I'm at one of Invis/Imson with high high thinking of it being Invis because of invis posting

and GL interactions GL/tris.

What does the bolded mean?

[MariaR]

Oh you’re gonna love my posting then. Does this make me scum too?

If you defend Ym, then yeah, you can get lynched as well

Guess I'm defending YM then.
Pedit:The bolded means I think you and GL are scum. Along with the fact I think GL interactions with invis are SvS

[GuiltyLion]

sorry for my absence, I will be here tomorrow

haven't read anything at all but I see Maria calling me scum on this page and that's lol

[GuiltyLion]

yes mafia (i.e. not_mafia) is lynch bait and people are voting him because of his terrible play style rather than motive in this game

wait this is important though

is yes mafia confirmed to be an alt of not_mafia anywhere?

[GuiltyLion]

The other 2 reads are fence sitting town reads that he can easily flip back on when GL gets a mislynch and needs to go back on a dif vote.

this is that thing that scum frequently do where they assume that player [x] is scum first and then explain why their behavior

would make sense

if [x] were scum

unfortunately for Maria I'm not so the whole point here is invalid

also in what universe does giving reads on every player and trying to start forming a lynchpool become "posting for the sake of posting"

[GuiltyLion]

anyway i'm not actually gonna do a proper reread tonight but more to come tomorrow

[insomnia]

Can we just all agree YM is the best lynch for today and stop acting like we don’t believe that

[Invisibility]

In post 267, Invisibility wrote:
yes mafia has outgrown his smooth lynch shoes imo


In post 268, Invisibility wrote:
what’s he at will it be hammer


In post 270, Invisibility wrote:
Insomnia is currently a what read


In post 271, Invisibility wrote:
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
VOTE: yes
don’t claim or I will suck your shoes like pasta



See this? This is a really bad way of jumping onto a wagon. It’s a way of leading up to joining said wagon and trying to find a reason to do so without mindlessly jumping on. If Invis was really confident about a Yes mafia vote he’d have played this another way. Instead, we have the really bad vote missed in with fake ‘oh I don’t know guys’ vibes.

or iw as actually unsure as to what a wanted to do and i voted yes for pressure?!?!

[Invisibility]

why is ofrhz voting me

[insomnia]

You can’t pressure a player like YM, just lynch.

[Invisibility]

ok