Open 754: Fire and Ice (Game Over) Fire Mafia wins.


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Post Post #37 (isolation #0) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:46 am

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In post 26, Vedith wrote:Don't tell Brass but I didn't read the rules. :o
Bad TROWN confirmed.

VOTE: Vedith
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Post Post #40 (isolation #1) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:13 am

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Not yet, wait till L-3.

Pedit: Eww.
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Post Post #61 (isolation #2) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:16 am

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Do you wanna get a whole page to yourself?
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Post Post #64 (isolation #3) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:21 am

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Don’t worry
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Post Post #65 (isolation #4) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:21 am

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I won’t stop you
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Post Post #66 (isolation #5) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:21 am

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Next time
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Post Post #89 (isolation #6) » Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:54 pm

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VOTE: RuiRui

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Post Post #95 (isolation #7) » Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:46 am

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Would you rather I said nothing/shitposted rather than trying to get something happening on the only post of any substance in this game?
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Post Post #96 (isolation #8) » Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:47 am

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Actually, feels off somehow.

VOTE: Ceejayvinoya
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Post Post #103 (isolation #9) » Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:52 am

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Epic.
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Post Post #105 (isolation #10) » Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:06 am

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Me too
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Post Post #106 (isolation #11) » Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:06 am

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In post 96, rosterfoster wrote:Actually, feels off somehow.

VOTE: Ceejayvinoya
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Post Post #128 (isolation #12) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:03 am

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In post 122, RuiRui wrote:I don't think hunting for a team of 2 is a good strategy, it makes too many assumptions, I think it's more effective to work on finding 1 scum and then work on finding their partner next to slow down the kills per night, and then switch to the next faction
Yeah you're town. So tell me what you think about finding one scum?
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Post Post #129 (isolation #13) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:04 am

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In post 124, ceejayvinoya wrote:This is about as clear as mud and only a few ticks better than your earlier vote.[/quote[

Indeed it is.
You probably can't even justify your RuiRui vote and why you decided to leave it for a post that
No I can't. Yes I did.

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Post Post #130 (isolation #14) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:04 am

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Whoops
In post 124, ceejayvinoya wrote:This is about as clear as mud and only a few ticks better than your earlier vote.
Indeed it is.
You probably can't even justify your RuiRui vote and why you decided to leave it for a post that
No I can't. Yes I did.

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Post Post #157 (isolation #15) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:50 am

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Eyes do you have a sense of humour?
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Post Post #160 (isolation #16) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:52 am

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Shame. You should get checked to be sure
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Post Post #170 (isolation #17) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:00 am

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In post 163, RuiRui wrote:What do you mean, like how would we find the first scum? There's no special strategy in this setup... just scumhunt like a regular game until the first scum flips
Probably could have worded that better - who do you think is scum? You've not really been pushing anyone so far.
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Post Post #171 (isolation #18) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:01 am

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In post 161, ceejayvinoya wrote:VOTE: Roster
Badvote.
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Post Post #172 (isolation #19) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:01 am

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In post 162, BrightEyedFish wrote:I am going to vote roster not because of a solid scumread but because this game needs to get going so maybe we build a little pressure and gain some momentum.

VOTE: rosterfoster

Now, watch this post be my doom.
Worsevote.

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Post Post #173 (isolation #20) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:03 am

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In post 167, Vedith wrote:Allo still self voting and just doing nothing is a huge Scum tell.
Vote with me my young ones.
Nah. Wait for the shell to open first, then we can look inside. But it must be prodded gently.
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Post Post #177 (isolation #21) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:34 am

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Oh wait lol I thought that post was by you. Apologies.

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Post Post #178 (isolation #22) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:35 am

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‘I do not think this is scum but I am going to vote for it anyway’

True?

That’s not how you inject something into the game.
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Post Post #180 (isolation #23) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:43 am

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This isn’t an OMGUS vote.

The first one was a mistake (you have similar avatars).
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Post Post #184 (isolation #24) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:49 am

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In post 181, BrightEyedFish wrote:It sure seems like you are voting me because I voted you.
For not bothering to make up a reason. That’s how discussion starts.
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Post Post #195 (isolation #25) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:26 am

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In post 193, Vedith wrote:Maybe I've just bee in too many larger sized games lately but the speed of this game is really slow for such a fun setup.

I want to say it's because Scum don't want to over interact with the players here.
It’s odd for me to be the second highest poster this early on. So yeah, I think it’s just gone a bit lethargic for a lot of people.

Also I could really do without this arguing over semantics. It’s utterly meaningless.
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Post Post #197 (isolation #26) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:29 am

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You’re great.

VOTE: Allo

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Post Post #199 (isolation #27) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:31 am

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Ah but am I town or scum?
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Post Post #203 (isolation #28) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:33 am

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To get to the other side
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Post Post #243 (isolation #29) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:06 am

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VOTE: BEF

This is infinitely better than Allomancer. (Soz Vedith).

Why do you think that might be NAI? Sure, it’s not impossible that it comes from lazy town, but I feel that post comes from scum ore often.
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Post Post #246 (isolation #30) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:16 am

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Yeah of course, but something can be AI without being 100%.

I think you see that now though.
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Post Post #268 (isolation #31) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 12:28 pm

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In post 266, pinturicchio wrote:it felt like Mark Zuckerberg trying to act like a human being.
Oof.
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Post Post #269 (isolation #32) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 12:29 pm

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How could anyone have thought Allo was actually at L-1? Sometimes I do wonder if people have brains.
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Post Post #271 (isolation #33) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 12:39 pm

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:(
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Post Post #273 (isolation #34) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:19 pm

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is actually reasons. Pintu-town.
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Post Post #282 (isolation #35) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:47 am

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In post 275, Allomancer wrote:i'm sorry we don't all count votes in our heads as we read the thread mr smartypants
So you don't check when Vedith (who we all know trolls a touch) says you're at L-1 on page 7?
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Post Post #284 (isolation #36) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:21 am

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I don’t actually think Allo is scum. I couldn’t take a guess on how many are on his wagon.

Assuming you’re scum, I’d wager one of the opposing team is on you and the other is not. Your buddy wouldn’t be voting you I think.

If you’re both town, I wouldn’t put us past all 4 scum being on the wagons. But I don’t think that’s the case
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Post Post #298 (isolation #37) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:51 am

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Hmm I’m starting to have doubts about BEF.
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Post Post #299 (isolation #38) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:53 am

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I kind of feel like Allo is just trying not to say anything and praying BEF gets lynched.

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Post Post #301 (isolation #39) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:03 am

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They’re lurkers. I wish it was inherently scummy to lurk, but it isn’t. Allo is active-lurking essentially which is a far scummier thing. I was hoping the wagon would force something out, but it seems like that’s not going to happen.
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Post Post #303 (isolation #40) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:15 am

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Yeah but like he could provide reasons? It’s not unreasonable for scum him to think the wagon will just dissipate on its own.
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Post Post #338 (isolation #41) » Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:46 am

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We should be looking to Lynch fire mafia preferably (although any is fine). Two reasons:

- Fire mafia have already proven proficient at ice-hunting. This means that they may be more likely to shoot ice anyway (maybe moreso than we are lynching).
- Ofrhz had some anti-buddy info (more than buddy info) which I think Vedith already touched upon.
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Post Post #339 (isolation #42) » Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:51 am

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I still like Vedith and Pintu for town. I feel like the hammer from Pintu was genuine (and justified) frustration at the pace of the game. Very rarely am I one of the top posters early on, and believe me I've not been posting more than usual this game. Means the game is going very slowly.

The NK being springtrap means that Ofrhz actually thought that Springtrap was scum. That makes his reads genuine as Vedith said, so BEF and maad are good suspects. I was probably second-guessing myself over BEF too much yesterday - I thought the way Allo was acting meant it was scum Allo and town BEF. But that's not the case. I've not really gotten a firm grip of maad yet unfortunately.

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Post Post #340 (isolation #43) » Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:53 am

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WARM what does YOUR HEART say to you about BIGHTEYFISH??
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Post Post #342 (isolation #44) » Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:05 pm

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Also congrats Brass (pretend I didn't ignore it before).
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Post Post #359 (isolation #45) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:26 am

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In post 340, rosterfoster wrote:WARM what does YOUR HEART say to you about BIGHTEYFISH??
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Post Post #360 (isolation #46) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:27 am

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I need to read this case on maad again to understand fully I think.
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Post Post #386 (isolation #47) » Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:33 am

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Sorry I’ve been busy today. Will talk more tomorrow.
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Post Post #407 (isolation #48) » Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:50 am

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Ok the case of maaadnet is a load of hot air, so I won't bother analying that.

Town for me is Maad/Pintu/Vedith. Scum Pintu would be happy to let the lynch on BEF take its course (unless they're partners but I find that unlikely). Vedith is just being all round genuine scumhunting, so I feel strongly that he is town.
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Post Post #408 (isolation #49) » Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:53 am

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BEF is still scummy in my book, but people aren't really going for this right now. From his ISO I see questions but they almost feel quasi-productive, take and . IDK, to me it feels like scum trying to appear to contribute but not finding anything useful to say.
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Post Post #409 (isolation #50) » Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:55 am

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GW, I don't really know why people find this scummy? I've been feeling like he's actually trying, which is something I associate with town. This contrasts with BEF who I feel to be fake-trying.
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Post Post #410 (isolation #51) » Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:00 am

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I could see Ceejay as Ofhrz's partner, the only sort-of interactions between them were in .

The first is a bit random (and I think we should only trust Ofhrz on scum reads and not town), and the other two are almost kind of trying to throw a touch of shade at Ceejay to avoid seeming too close, almost just a subconscious thing that scum might do. So I could see this.
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Post Post #411 (isolation #52) » Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:03 am

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Ok since I think we might be somewhat accurate with these scum teams, it is probably best to go for buddy to remove the NK. I think ice mafia kind of has to go for town now as they're unlikely to win without whittling the town down a bit and hoping fire mafia is lynched, so removing that NK is best play - I was wrong earlier.

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Post Post #419 (isolation #53) » Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:27 am

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In post 414, Vedith wrote:I don't think any of these names are teamed with Orfhz
Distancing would be more shade though (just not a fulll-blown scumread)? I believe you're town so that would put GW as a possible partner from that perspective also.
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Post Post #421 (isolation #54) » Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:30 am

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If we lynch fire mafia scum have two NK's. They won't want to kill each other because even if the other one missed I don't think 1 vs 6 is good odds, particularly with partner flips. So they'll try to shoot town and then it'll be 5-1-1 which is not bad for town but not great. So hunting for last Ice mafia is better strategy (although if they happen to actually be fire I'm not going to shed a tear).
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Post Post #428 (isolation #55) » Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:43 am

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Yeah I mean it's a valid point, but chance of doc actually making a save are pretty low anyway, and having one clear is not all that useful when scum will start having a greater and greater influence on the game if we allow 2 NK's.

Pedit: Welp.
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Post Post #430 (isolation #56) » Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:44 am

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But OK also this is probably the point of that mechanic so maybe theoretically Pintu is right. I will have to look at the maths at some point.
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Post Post #441 (isolation #57) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 4:32 am

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Wizzle lay off our Wormy
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Post Post #442 (isolation #58) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 4:34 am

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I second on why you’re just going to ignore eyes while he’s gone. Doesn’t give the shot a free pass. I actually don’t like that hangs of direction.
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Post Post #443 (isolation #59) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 4:34 am

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*change.
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Post Post #444 (isolation #60) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 4:35 am

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Wizzle why do YOU think Ceejayvinoya is scum?
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Post Post #447 (isolation #61) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 12:30 pm

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VOTE: BEF

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Post Post #486 (isolation #62) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:10 am

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I don’t see how BEF read of me can me OMGUS? Like he called me scum before I called him scum.

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Post Post #487 (isolation #63) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:15 am

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Btw I think both town and fire should be intimo for Ice today. I spoke about it a little earlier on but essentially if we get fire, both scum have incentives to shoot town therefore two town NK’s are likely compared to only 1 if we get ice. Obviously all scum lynched are good though at this stage. In principle it should be easier to look for Ice associatives but Orfhz had so few posts I don’t think it is.
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Post Post #489 (isolation #64) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:14 am

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Yeah I think you’re completely right about this. So vote BEF with me <3
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Post Post #496 (isolation #65) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 11:32 pm

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In post 340, rosterfoster wrote:WARM what does YOUR HEART say to you about BIGHTEYFISH??
#Hurt.
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Post Post #498 (isolation #66) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 11:56 pm

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I think I’m already voting BEF. If not,

VOTE: BEF
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Post Post #502 (isolation #67) » Sun Mar 31, 2019 12:11 am

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I was already voting you.
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Post Post #503 (isolation #68) » Sun Mar 31, 2019 12:12 am

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And yes, I prefer your lynch to GW’s since you’re scummier IMO. I’ll vote him if this doesn’t gain steam but it really should.
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Post Post #506 (isolation #69) » Sun Mar 31, 2019 12:29 am

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I'm pretty sure that was a mod mistake. If you look at my ISO last vote is you
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Post Post #507 (isolation #70) » Sun Mar 31, 2019 12:30 am

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And way to tackle the unimportant question to try to deflect the argument.
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Post Post #509 (isolation #71) » Sun Mar 31, 2019 1:25 am

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Np :).
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Post Post #511 (isolation #72) » Sun Mar 31, 2019 3:25 am

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In post 364, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 341, GrandWazoo wrote:See no downside to this.

VOTE: BrightEyeFish
In post 361, GrandWazoo wrote:I don't see anything from maad, town or scum. Literally 3 posts. I hate lurkers as much as anyone but I see no point in pushing one rn.

I hate that there are two players with Eyes in their name. Confusing. Face is totes scummier. Pintu's echoes my feelings.

VOTE: EyesWithoutaFace
These are grandwazoo's last 2 posts. He switched from me to eyes when eyes hasn't even posted D2 because eyes is "totes scummier".
I don't know if this is scum behavior or just someone not giving 2 shits about the game. Either way, I don;t think it's good for town.

WRT maad, I don't like the lack of posting but he is on VLA until the 27th so I think we should at least give him until then a chance to contribute something.

VOTE: GrandWazoo
This is where you voted Wazoo. I see no other reasons from you beyond this. Now I have my own reasons for finding Wazol a bit scummy but this is pretty shallow - ‘IDK if it’s AI but it’s not good for town’ is not s good reason particularly after a mislynch D1 (and yes I know we got lucky with the cross-kill). So I’m going to need good reasons for your read on Wazoo, since atm I feel you’re just voting it because it’s you’re conterwagon.
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Post Post #513 (isolation #73) » Sun Mar 31, 2019 3:44 am

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You are remarkably convincing.

VOTE: Grandwazoo
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Post Post #524 (isolation #74) » Wed Apr 03, 2019 10:42 am

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In post 427, Vedith wrote:
In post 425, pinturicchio wrote:I have a counterpoint tho: if we kill the second ice climber today, the fire nation will absolutely attack the doc. If we focus on a fire scum today, there's a chance of the doc surviving since if both scumteams target the doc, the doc survives, so maybe they won't bother killing maad.
I forgot that this mechanic existed.
That's actually a really good point and gives town a high chance of a confirmed town tomorrow.

Okay scrap what I said Pintu is right.
This explains why fire mafia didn’t kill you. Perhaps Ice had similar thoughts.

I have to say I’m really surprised by Vedith scum. I’m going to re-evaluate the game tomorrow hopefully and look for Vedith associations, and who might have though Vedith was scum (because I think Ice mafia goes for fire mafia, not town).
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Post Post #557 (isolation #75) » Sat Apr 06, 2019 11:06 am

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Sorry guys this has been on my back burner. I'll get to it tomorrow night hopefully.

Yes, this is a shamless prodge.
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Post Post #581 (isolation #76) » Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:57 pm

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BEF why not adressing the point made for the connections rather than just shading the acting of looking for connections?
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Post Post #582 (isolation #77) » Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:58 pm

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Oh I was sure I was voting BEF already.

VOTE: BEF[/vpte]

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Post Post #583 (isolation #78) » Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:59 pm

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[vpte]BEF/VOTE:
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Post Post #584 (isolation #79) » Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:59 pm

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VOTE: BEF
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Post Post #586 (isolation #80) » Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:03 am

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But why? You're not really addressing the point.
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Post Post #588 (isolation #81) » Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:13 am

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That the two fire kills were scumreading you?
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Post Post #589 (isolation #82) » Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:13 am

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So perhaps look for other reasons for them being shot?
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Post Post #592 (isolation #83) » Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:30 am

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But Vedith was quite successful in directing the lynch away from you, no?

And it makes sense for scum to kill the townies who are voting for them. I think most people were town-Reading Orfhz so scum shooting that were probably looking for town, as Succint said.
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Post Post #607 (isolation #84) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:42 am

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BEF scum often pushes their partner to distance but actually makes sure that a different Lynch happens/doesn't resist it as they would if they were town with a scumread. That's what Vedith was doing.
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Post Post #625 (isolation #85) » Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:17 am

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Indeed.

VOTE: No Lynch

We should probably avoid saying anything of substance today to reduce the chance of mafia knowing best kill.
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Post Post #628 (isolation #86) » Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:05 am

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Pintu with the greatest of respect we have had 3 mislynches in a row while you’ve been the most townread player, managing to not get night killed and yesterday you hammered BEF despite opening thinking he was town, which could get well have lead to the possibility of 2-1-1 and virtually no way to win (Scum could at the very least force a draw if they wanted to). To cap it all off you are assuming that you are conf town and advocating the mechanically inferior approach.

If that doesn’t make me question my town read on you I don’t know what will.

Now shut up and vote no lynch.
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Post Post #638 (isolation #87) » Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:43 am

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^Don’t like that post.

Ceejay what do you think about no-lynching today? And please tell me why.
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Post Post #640 (isolation #88) » Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:32 am

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The person with 5 posts who had some analysis which implicated the wrong person? I am not at all convinced that I would be an easier mislynch that Succint.
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Post Post #648 (isolation #89) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:55 am

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See Ceejay that’s all well and good but I just don’t like the idea of giving scum more information on who is the best to kill/can be swayed most easily. That’s why I wanted a quick no lynch.

I’m not going to give my opinions unless you really drag your feet on no-lynch.
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Post Post #653 (isolation #90) » Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:27 am

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All my reads have been piss poor this game.

I've never played Lylo before so I'm just sticking my head in for now, expect long posts and proper cases.
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Post Post #657 (isolation #91) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:10 am

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Ok so I'm going to look at this from the Vedith angle.

Succint I'm sorry that you're not going to be able to answer any Vedith/Worm interactions but it needs to be done.
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Post Post #658 (isolation #92) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:56 am

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Spoiler: Early Vedith worm interactions
In post 11, Vedith wrote:Hi friend Worm!
Are you a good work today or a bad worm!?
In post 12, Vedith wrote:Good worm. Not good work :mad:
In post 14, Vedith wrote:I am very excited for this game and happy thank you for asking!
In post 16, Vedith wrote:I am bad town! But I can tell you now I am neither or or cold. I am perfect temperature \o/
In post 18, Vedith wrote:I claim good town then.
I'm helping \o/

So far we have
Town
Me
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Allo

Scum
Allo
In post 31, Vedith wrote:Oh no what a town slip I just did!
Okay as confirmed IC I'm going to set a few ground rules.

No voting me
No voting Worm
No voting where I'm not

Now I know Vedith really likes Dr Worm so it's not particularly surprising that he talks to worm a lot. However the vast majority of his early ISO is on worm. Looking at other Vedith/Worm games - in Unstable town Vedith mentions town worm a little in the beginning but is by no means focusing on him. It is possible that Vedith was focusing more on Worm this game than usual because they are partners, but perhaps the most likely reason is that Vedith was scum so wanted to distract with the worm thing, irrespective of Worm's allignment. So I think that's actually only a mark against Vedith, not Succint/Worm.
In post 151, Vedith wrote:Yes!
Because now if I'm Scum Im killing you tonight no take backsies
Vedith said this to Orfhz. What do we see? Orfhz died N1. Now knowing Vedith it really wouldn't surprise me if this meant that a lot of what he said was actually truthful (including this). Now moving on to these posts:
In post 189, Vedith wrote:Dr Worm is my best friend
In post 329, Vedith wrote:Dr Worm is VADETHS best friend \o/

Really need people to pick up posting more this day phase though.
Vedith twice says that Dr Worm is his best friend. Now usually I would say that this is just messing about with someone that Vedith likes. Vedith does occasionally call people his best friend, but the repetition of it here makes me think that Vedith was going for a 'tell everyone the truth and they won't believe a word you say' strategy on D1. So I actually think this is a mark against Succinct/Worm.
In post 384, Vedith wrote:Actually, at this stage it makes sense to remove a night kill since I'm confident in the town section.
If I'm wrong on a town, it's worm, but I don't think so.

VOTE: Ceej
In post 385, Vedith wrote:UNVOTE: Ceej

I want to think first.
This is Vedith's first interaction with Ceej - he didn't interact with Ceej at all D1. In this game he interacted a little with his buddy FL but not with the other one (although the other one flaked twice so there would not have been many moments for interaction). This makes me think that Vedith not interacting with Ceej is townie for Ceej.
In post 382, Vedith wrote:UNVOTE: Maad

I'm thinking GrandWazoo then.
Then RuiRui or BEF as other

Ceej as Orhfz buddy.

VOTE: Grand
In post 413, Vedith wrote:Also I was thinking about Orfhz. When we were Scum in donner party they distanced from me.
Same with Elsa and Orfhz, they distanced or just ignored.

I think that if Ceej is Scum they are from the team of 2.
These three posts are both shading Ceej but pushing away from him.
In post 455, Vedith wrote:Both can be Scum.
Worm just is less likely.
This is kind of shading worm but again pushing away from him. I couldn't tell who the other person was?
If either of you could figure that out I would be grateful
. If the other person is Ceejay then it's a much bigger strike towards Succint scum, but IDK if it is. It is also possible he meant GW.
In post 466, Vedith wrote:Good, who's scum for you?

Scum is in Grand/BEF/RuiRui and maybe Ceej although I like them better as town now.
RuiRui is highly likely to be Ice mafia so I'd lynch Grand or BEF today. Given that PPintu thinks BEF has some town tell I',m preferable for Grand.

And yes, I think Fire mafia want the ice mafia killed today to prevent them having the night kill.
This is moving Ceej back to town. I feel like Vedith would have mentioned Worm as well though if he wasn't trying to deflect from any worm pressure. Adding Ceej in there keeps them as a viable lynch candidate, when especially at that moment fire mafia would have been trying to keep it as 2 to reduce cross-kill problems.

On a side-note I also feel like Vedith was aiming for Mafia every night, going from his posts about theory (I know it should be taken with a pinch of salt, but there is a lot suggesting that Vedith was trying to be as truthful as possible). I'm concerned that Succinct has been pushing the fire-aiming-town angle on N1. I don't think he ever talked about it D1 though.
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Post Post #661 (isolation #93) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:21 am

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VOTE: Succint
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Post Post #662 (isolation #94) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:21 am

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Gg.
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Post Post #663 (isolation #95) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:22 am

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VOTE: Succinct

Just to get the spelling right :P.
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Post Post #666 (isolation #96) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:23 am

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Yep :)
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Post Post #669 (isolation #97) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:36 am

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Yeah the activity level was pretty poor. Me and Vedith were controlling the game.
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Post Post #671 (isolation #98) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:40 am

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I think correct strategy for scum in our situation was always to aim for the other tbh. IDK if you thought I was other scum but shooting doctor is wrong call I think.
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Post Post #681 (isolation #99) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:49 pm

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Btw I PM'd Brass asking to hammer NL when there was two votes, and I'm really glad he didn't because it gave me conviction that going after Succinct was the correct thing to do :P
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Post Post #682 (isolation #100) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:51 pm

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Yeah I wasn't really considering the fact that I was scumread, more that I just think that the mechanially correct decision there was to shoot scum and I can weazel pretty good.

Aiming for scum was equivalent to lynching scum as town kept mislynching, so the effect was the same for us :P.
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Post Post #683 (isolation #101) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:51 pm

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It would have been quite funny if me and insomnia shot each other and town won without lynching correctly though :).
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