Non-Reviewed Game [game over]

[chennisden]

Vedith I know you tryhard as scum but I'm not sure if you tryhard as town.

I also want to ISO sabrina so I know why my slot voted them.

[chennisden]

sooo a personal conflict is why my slot is voting another slot

great

i fucking hate "out of game" influences like this

[chennisden]

VOTE: sabrina

i think that this needs more pressure: i feel her policy push on dt is clearly not working and as town she would either take a different angle to pushing DT or push somebody else. Right now she feels like scum who's satisfied with her current position of mostly flying under the radar and being ignored.

This feels like someone trying to make an easy push/discredit on a really stupidly obv town slot.

How is this

stupidly obvious?

[chennisden]

Top poster 20 minutes into joining the game

I am Locktown

Yeah, no.

Spamming =/= town. In fact, if it weren't for you replacing in and catching up, I'd say you'd be pretty scummy for trying this tactic.

You know what, fuck it, even for a replace in that spam seemed like you were trying to seem overly towny.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: DoubtingThomas

I quite liked his spam

I don't like your vote

No, I don't either.

[chennisden]

VOTE: enigma

iso him then sheep me

VOTE: Enigma

I'll do one better and skip straight to step 2.

i dont like this

[chennisden]

Like cuter version of vedith who will naturally be an easy target for scums to push to mislynch

I kinda agree with this tbh

well, the last part of it

since I dont think Enigma is scum

and we have a counterwagon on someone scummy

VOTE: Elsa Jay

[chennisden]

UNVOTE:

sorry

[chennisden]

Is Enigma at L-1? If so, I intend to hammer. If not, I will vote.

[chennisden]

Very concerning how many people are claiming, and how many others are "claiming." If you're going to jokeclaim to confuse town, it's only going to get you lynched/scumread. Getting Enigma lynched also feels like a bad idea with the claimed Watcher, but I don't feel like we have a choice anymore.

[chennisden]

You guys are fucking retarded

[chennisden]

V

ery concerning how many people are claiming, and how many others are "claiming."

I

f you're going to jokeclaim to confuse town, it's only going to get you lynched/scumread.

G

etting Enigma lynched also feels like a bad idea with the claimed Watcher, but I don't feel like we have a choice anymore.

[chennisden]

"How did you not see the obvious soft" people say about Elsa

"hur dur i can't see an obvious soft" people say about me

[chennisden]

^ when i flip town push this

[chennisden]

VOTE: chennis

in case theres interest

ill hammer enigma if i have to but eh

opportunistic

[chennisden]

If Scum have a roleblocker or something you basically ruined my chances of confirming myself. Big thanks to everyone here, particularly Enigma.

Sigh

Atleast we're killing scum now. So I guess I'll take it.

Why would I out anything elsa at this point to scum? I'm already as screwed by claiming so early.

So I've essentially offered you an opportunity to confirm yourself as town, outside of any roleblock or nightkill mechanic. I said I would self-hammer if you are able to confirm yourself outside of a roleblock event due to having multiple shots and my watcher value on you is then pointless.

By your reasoning should be a win-win for you - you aren't screwed by having to claim because there is still the opportunity to use your role (and scum can't kill/rb you) or if you are only indeed single shot then I would self-hammer and would flip scum according to your beliefs.

1. Why haven't you even considered this or responded to my offer?
2. Why did you feel the need to crumb your role at a time when you were in no danger of being lynched, and your night actions could essentially confirm that role?

Please watch Wisdom instead

He's opportunistically jumping

[chennisden]

VOTE: Wisdom

[chennisden]

you push enigma - which is a mislynch in my eyes

you push me - which i know for a fact is a mislynch

so pls tell me why you are town from my PoV

[chennisden]

@866

it's a pretty well-known soft, no?

[chennisden]

So you want me to shoot? If so, who?

[chennisden]

fine

UNVOTE:

[chennisden]

^ when i flip town push this

nvm it seems i am not flipping again

[chennisden]

VOTE: ofhrz

because I am conftown to myself

[chennisden]

@xyzzy it seems i have no vote now (0 players not voting - but im not voting)

[chennisden]

Actually asking who to target was stupid of me.

[chennisden]

I know what scum can do and I don't want to say it yet.

[chennisden]

(because I don't want to tell them)

[chennisden]

Spoiler:

VOTE: chennis

in case theres interest

ill hammer enigma if i have to but eh

opportunistic

If Scum have a roleblocker or something you basically ruined my chances of confirming myself. Big thanks to everyone here, particularly Enigma.

Sigh

Atleast we're killing scum now. So I guess I'll take it.

Why would I out anything elsa at this point to scum? I'm already as screwed by claiming so early.

So I've essentially offered you an opportunity to confirm yourself as town, outside of any roleblock or nightkill mechanic. I said I would self-hammer if you are able to confirm yourself outside of a roleblock event due to having multiple shots and my watcher value on you is then pointless.

By your reasoning should be a win-win for you - you aren't screwed by having to claim because there is still the opportunity to use your role (and scum can't kill/rb you) or if you are only indeed single shot then I would self-hammer and would flip scum according to your beliefs.

1. Why haven't you even considered this or responded to my offer?
2. Why did you feel the need to crumb your role at a time when you were in no danger of being lynched, and your night actions could essentially confirm that role?

Please watch Wisdom instead

He's opportunistically jumping

VOTE: Wisdom

So you want me to shoot? If so, who?

This trajectory isn’t town

“Wisdom is scum”

“Ok I’ll shoot whoever wisdom tells me to shoot”

this is wrong - i wanted people's input

before i realized why i shouldnt

[chennisden]

Is Enigma at L-1? If so, I intend to hammer. If not, I will vote.

VOTE: enigma

L-1

UNVOTE:

sorry

Why sorry?

because I missed an obv soft

[chennisden]

to get reactions

selfvoting causes reactions

What reactions

What reactions do you get from a self-vote

How indicative of your alignment/stances on other people is a self-vote?

How indicative of your alingment/stances on other people is a vote on someone else?

If this is Enter's ISO, why are we scumreading him?

[chennisden]

um oops

i killed sabrina guys

[chennisden]

I bet Ausuka shot that vig at someone

btw ausuka was obvtown why the fuck did she get shot

Why are you assuming Mafia didn't do it?

because there were 3 claimed vigs

So... mafia didn't kill anyone?

Don't forget mafia could've killed the same person as someone else. Or vig could've.

[chennisden]

whoever killed ausuka please claim your shot.

[chennisden]

whoever killed ausuka please claim your shot.

oh wait ooops nvm

[chennisden]

scum probably has some form of rolecop.

[chennisden]

based on what

i feel like this game would have a scum JOAT

vanilla rolecop seems impossible, but scum JOAT seems likely because i feel like everyone would create bastard/troll/op roles

[chennisden]

yesterday i was not fine with this; today i am.

VOTE: Enigma

i think i did scum's job by derailing the wagon yesterday.

[chennisden]

Ill come clean about light

I didnt actually receive anything from her, im townreading her because she seems to think she gave me a gift

you sure scum can't do that? be aware this game is potentially/probably bastard

[chennisden]

like yeah i think light is playing towny. but light's role could've been bastardized either way; mechanics aren't really reliable in a game like this

[chennisden]

oh um guys

i forgot
I received a fruit

[chennisden]

i didnt read the Night 1 PM since I didn't think there was anything in it.

[chennisden]

VOTE: chennis

[chennisden]

thats true.

[chennisden]

well now i figured out what my role does.

[chennisden]

VOTE: chennis

What the actual hell.

im not gonna be not lynched so might as well.

[chennisden]

but fine; real role coming:

I am Isabella (from Advance Wars: Days of Ruin), Town ???. I have a night action but didn't know what it does.

Light please tell me exactly how you know I targeted you. Is this part of a PR or is this my night action? Were you roleblocked? etc

[chennisden]

well, that was an idiotic gambit of me

[chennisden]

alright before you guys hammer me

let me give some reads

[chennisden]

light is town by mechanics and play

[chennisden]

Chennisden is claimed vig correct?

Cos I got a mod pm that they targeted me last night

that makes them confscum.

They claimed to have vigged sabrina.

VOTE: chennis

VOTE: chennis

VOTE: chenn

VOTE: chennis

thats true.

that's L-1 so
well then VOTE: chennisden

VOTE: Chen

[chennisden]

oops

did not mean to edit light's quote; meant to put "that's L-1 so" in its own line

[chennisden]

Is elsa conftown? I don't particularly townread the slot but it'd save me an ISO dump

[chennisden]

Is elsa conftown? I don't particularly townread the slot but it'd save me an ISO dump

[chennisden]

light if youre here what did you send me
i didnt get anything

this explains everything.

[chennisden]

wow ok i figured out part of my role; whoever i target redirects their night action to me, and they are told i targeted them

among other things

[chennisden]

do tell

pretty sure the fruit was meant for you

UNVOTE:

[chennisden]

ganski i think you're town and you have no reason to lie; what flavour is your fruit?

[chennisden]

and this is why i express advance apologies for my play this entire game

[chennisden]

but still dude

why were you faking a vig

i think i was trolling but then it got me scumread soo i thought i had to stick to it

sry for the play

[chennisden]

And more confusing... That means Chen lied again about a fruit?

no; i got a fruit

[chennisden]

Then where's that Vigi Shot? Or did you're role magically turn it into a fruit?

i have no clue

[chennisden]

VOTE: enigma

[chennisden]

ok then why do i have fruit

two possible scenarios:

i roleblocked you, someone sent me a fruit

my role takes your thing and turns it into a fruit

[chennisden]

^ this is MY question too; i have NOT been told what my role is

@mod May I copy paste my role PM without proving authenticity?

[chennisden]

um oops that was meant to be in response to 2092

[chennisden]

And if scum killed ausuka and blocked light... Do i need to repeat what that means about claimed watchers and rolestoppers

To be fair the "Watcher" already admitted to lying while evidence atleast says Ofr is true. But yeah, agree to disagree.

it doesnt matter
my point is scum didnt shoot or block the claimed watcher and the claimed rolestopper
Meaning they didnt care about them
Meaning they are them

ok then why not kill them

[chennisden]

why not vig me in night instead?

[chennisden]

nobody knows that, including myself

[chennisden]

I am "Isabella," from "Advance Wars: Days of Ruin." I am a town ??? which means I have no idea what my role is. I know I have a single target active night action. But I don't know what it does. The PM also says I can't be sure that there isn't more to my role.

I win when all Mafia is dead or nothing can prevent this.

[chennisden]

this claim is true; do you think i have the creativity to make this up?

[chennisden]

like if i knew my role was LOUD do you think i would've done anything

[chennisden]

uh ok?

Light is saying you targeted her though

explain?

VOTE: chennis

thats true.

To make it competely clear: I sent nobody fruit.

VOTE: enigma

It looks to me like you gave up twice

i havent un given up

[chennisden]

Shoot enigma for quickhammering

Don't let that slide

shoot enigma for fakeclaim too

don't let that slide

[chennisden]

sorry for the abysmal play; i was actually town

being lynched is my fault and mine alone

i dont blame anyone here if they want to blacklist me

[chennisden]

wisdom light dunstral town.

[chennisden]

enigma fusco scum.

[chennisden]

HI GUYS GUESS WHO'S BACK!

[chennisden]

ok chen

wtf did your ability do

my ability is i have a 50% chance of replacing town who replaces out

[chennisden]

somebody gots some splainin to do about being a rolestoppeer.

There is a rolestopper. Light was rolestopped.

[chennisden]

No claim = rolestopper is mafia.

[chennisden]

Chennisden

First of all, wtf just happened

Secondly, did you get the item I sent to wisdom last night

Got a "rusty old motorbike."

[chennisden]

...............................

Wisdom repped out?

i think

[chennisden]

Chen ank Gamma Elsa myself
Vedith prob town considering he's shooting where we ask. (Chen can you conf if you rly shot sab or not)
Leaves Dt/ofrhz as likely suck with last in fus/light.

no i didnt shoot

[chennisden]

So the 3rd kill n1 isn't counted for. Hmmmm could be Vedith but why lie about that.

Ank has previously stated she is 1 shot.

[chennisden]

rolestopper was on me last night.

[chennisden]

somebody gots some splainin to do about being a rolestoppeer.

There is a rolestopper. Light was rolestopped.

Really? Because I remember it being me rolestopped yesterday (n1), and whatever was with Chen's role stopping Light's gift beforehand.

Pedit: How would a rolestopper be on you Chen if you got a gift last night?

my role has no rolestop. my role

ONLY

does the following:

50% chase of replacing someone who is town when they replace out.

[chennisden]

Well, anyways. Wiz died? was replaced out for chenn, who is town. However, why wiz? Chenn, did you do a wiz?

Wisdom is alive. I have his role now.

I did not choose. I simply had a 50% chance to replace and I got wisdom's role PM so here I am.

[chennisden]

what was all of light's actions so far?

From memory he tried and failed to give Wisdom a vigi shot but Appearantly Chen converted it into a fruit? And then he gave Wisdom/Chen a motorbike which does... Something.

So both times they tried to give Wisdom a gift.

anything i thought my role did is invalid.

[chennisden]

but wtf was my nightaction

[chennisden]

Then how do you explain both the vig shot disappearing AND Ofr being on me n1? She couldn't be in 2 places at once.

The rolestop wasn't on Wisdom or Light, so that doesn't explain that.

there could also be a roleblocker

[chennisden]

like actions and results

yes

[chennisden]

So was YOUR abilitiy a roleblock? And what was with that fruit thing you claimed?

Sidenote: another big "fuck you" to Enigma for claiming Doctor... After fake claiming watcher. Seriously man?

My

original slot

(the dead one) got fruit.

I don't know exactly; I believe my ability did nothing but I am not sure. What I know for sure is that the main gimmick of this role is I replaced Wisdom

[chennisden]

From my understanding I am the NK due to being conftown

[chennisden]

He claimed Watcher first then claimed Doctor when he was a Shield or something. That's not our fault.

Dude. Shield was basically a limited-shot Doctor.

[chennisden]

Light is conftown.

[chennisden]

How is light conftown?

Light claimed to have sent me something. He sent me something that lines up exactly with his claimed role.

[chennisden]

setup spec is silly

a dead player replacing in literally IS part of this game

[chennisden]

VOTE: MariaR

[chennisden]

yeah i scum read this.

[chennisden]

light which inventions do you still have?

Inventions I've used with their names;
Revolver with One Bullet Left Inside - 1-shot vig
Rusty Old Motorbike - 1-shot commuter

Inventions I still have:
Sunglasses - 1-shot bodyguard
My First Walkie Talkie Set - 1-shot neighbourizer
ProZoom Binoculars - 1-shot tracker
Apple - 1-shot fruit vendor

I was hoping you wouldn't tell everyone what it did.

[chennisden]

Guys, Maria is still scum.

[chennisden]

town doesn't conftown themselves to avoid NK

[chennisden]

If Maria's role is true then we got another conftown and Vigs can sort stuff from there.

If Maria's fakeclaiming we get scum.

Maria is the lynch today.

[chennisden]

I'll wait for Xyzzy and hopefully a replacement for Gamma.

If only you took Gamma's slot Chen... This woulda be so much easier.

Nah

This slot offers me info and as conftown it's certain to be

honest

now honest doesn't mean true due to potential bastard and all

[chennisden]

mmmmm

yeah, I'm fine with this

I give vig shot to Elsa
Ofrhz rolestops me
Elsa targets MariaR
Vedith targets MariaR
light gives bodyguard to Fuscosco
Fuscosco does not hide
Chen does chen things
gamma flakes out
mariar stays unlynchable

DT gets lynched

What is this supposed to accomplish again? Without anyone on Elsa tonight, won't she likely just get killed? i.e. why should I be on you over the conftowns

cos we can still die

[chennisden]

i owe this better

UNVOTE:

[chennisden]

This push on DT is awful.

[chennisden]

and conftown status really has no place being unclaimed today considering we already have two confirmed towns

Because?

[chennisden]

DT wagon VERY BAD

Fusco wagon a little bad

VOTE: Gamma

[chennisden]

votecount 3.05

3 players voting for Fuscosco (Elsa Jay, ofrhz, light_ganski, Ankamius)
3 players voting for DoubtingThomas (MariaR, Fuscosco)
1 player voting for MariaR (DoubtingThomas)
1 player voting for Gamma Emerald (chennisden)

2 players not voting (Gamma Emerald, Vedith)

with 10 votes, it takes 6 to lynch.

day 3 will end in (expired on 2019-04-09 03:05:00).

mod notes: Gamma Emerald has not picked up her prod yet. she has 24 hours to do so.

lol

@mod error on vc: fuscosco has 4 votes (4 people listed)

[chennisden]

NRG is an anagram of RNG which is how this game will be decided

[chennisden]

... But we have 2 conf towns. If we lose that's on us.

no

ill talk more about this later

[chennisden]

Tell me how many conftowns we need to mechanically win this.

[chennisden]

H

i

g

u

y

s

Vedith and DT are confirmed town. I haven't outed this to see wagons. I'd rather not share how I know just yet, but they are confirmed town.

We lynch Gamma and someone vigs Maria.

[chennisden]

Anyone who is voting for DT:
If your next post is not an unvote you are scumclaiming.

[chennisden]

H

i

g

u

y

s

Vedith and DT are confirmed town. I haven't outed this to see wagons. I'd rather not share how I know just yet, but they are confirmed town.

We lynch Gamma and someone vigs Maria.

#Doubt.

no.

[chennisden]

VOTE: MariaR

[chennisden]

shes SCUM

i wont buy the claim

[chennisden]

^ sheep this

[chennisden]

how are you scumclaiming so loudly maria

[chennisden]

the "bastard" part is that im replaced in AFTER i died. theres it accounted for

[chennisden]

either chen/dt/vedith is the scumteam or maria is scum

why am i even explaining to conf scum

[chennisden]

i just HAPPENED to replace in the slot who could conftown 2 other people

sorry scum but sucks to be you

[chennisden]

lol lynch pls

[chennisden]

^ town

[chennisden]

Elsa vig in Dt/Vedith for me when I flip town thank you. I was the reason furso was roleblocked so I think his claim as cop checks out. Chen might still be awful town for how he played with me before could be wrong *shrug*

No.

[chennisden]

I guarantee that DT and Vedith are town. This isn't through a long chain of reasoning or whatnot; they are simply confirmed town

[chennisden]

I also can communicate privately with Vedith/DT.

Vigs please be off of them.

[chennisden]

gamma, light, vedith, dt

pls direct you gun barrels in this general direction tonight

scum.

DEFINITELY not vedith. no DT.

[chennisden]

you literally were going after modconfirmed town maria

[chennisden]

was that from gamestart or what

No; I replaced into Wisdom's role.

[chennisden]

VOTE: Doubting Thomas

In case you missed it, DT is confirmed town.

[chennisden]

Ank was Vedith's shot.

[chennisden]

Hi guys, please stop voting each other and let me process some stuff. I think we have a PoE win in the bag already.

[chennisden]

Chennis DT conf town

[chennisden]

Fuscosco went to light_gannski and chennisden yesterday, by the way.

thx

[chennisden]

Chenn, did you get any results on light?

Yeah. Even though it's

technically

alignment redacting, it basically gives me the alignment.

[chennisden]

VOTE: Doubting Thomas

In case you missed it, DT is confirmed town.

can this be explained too

DT friendly loud announcing neighbor

the loud and announcing is the reason this role is stupid btw

[chennisden]

Hey Fusc. I know you know Light is town, that's why you conftowned him to me. That probably makes you town because your ability makes no sense for scum. I rolecopped you, Fusc, so I know you're not lying and I know what you did.

[chennisden]

Announcing?

something like that

[chennisden]

Town Loyal Loud Announcing Neighborizer

[chennisden]

DT's night action failed. This means that he found a scum

[chennisden]

So please. All votes off, we have confirmed scum coming soon

[chennisden]

If DT doesnt come baxck ofhrz best lynch

[chennisden]

2nd

we need to all full claim today. period.

i had hoped chenn would spill lights role, and I demand he do so, though of he wants light to claim it himself coolio

Light is an inventor, as he claims. He can only give stuff to

town

which heavily spews himself as town.

[chennisden]

I dont know why my track makes me clear? please explain?

You're not a pure

tracker.

I rolecopped you.

[chennisden]

Dt claimed he was a loyal neighborizer and tried to target me last night?

no

can he please come back

[chennisden]

2nd

we need to all full claim today. period.

i had hoped chenn would spill lights role, and I demand she do so, though of he wants light to claim it herself coolio

Light is an inventor, as she claims. She can only give stuff to

town

which heavily spews herself as town.

Ftfy

Chennisden is correct. I am the

Normal Review Group Town Inventor.

Would have preferred if chennis didn't out the loyal part as it inhibits me using my role as a investigative but ah well

We have enough conftowns to PoE.

[chennisden]

Next up.

we can confirm that I am a role cop? yoh said you didnt get an alignment, right?

No alignments.

[chennisden]

Next up.

we can confirm that I am a role cop? yoh said you didnt get an alignment, right?

You sent your information to me.

[chennisden]

Fusc's role:

Reporter

During night, you target two players: someone to investigate and someone to give the report to. The person you give the report to will see the role (but NOT alignment) of person you investigate.

[chennisden]

VOTE: ofhrz

[chennisden]

Let's wait for DT replacement please.

[chennisden]

My vote is on ofrhz for the vote.

[chennisden]

My vote is on ofrhz for the vote.

DT is literally confscum from my POV

The only way DT isn’t confscum is if you lied about him having a guilty on me, which would make you scum

Since I’ve already said I don’t think this game is bastard, you’re probably just the most frustrating conftown I have ever played with (and I’ve played with FL scumsiding for most of a large as IC)

I never said he had a guilty on you; he isn't here and I said

in the event he doesn't give a guilty,

I want to lynch you.

[chennisden]

Hammer.

[chennisden]

Light ganski is also very probably town.

[chennisden]

I agree.

[chennisden]

I'm honestly a little disappointed because we could've autowon if DT existed

[chennisden]

^ this is about no night action btw

[chennisden]

lol

[chennisden]

lol

[chennisden]

I assume I'll be the NK tonight

[chennisden]

We're getting Brass instead.

[chennisden]

Maybe.

[chennisden]

I'll tell you whether he's scum or town.

[chennisden]

BRASSHERALD IS TOWN.

VOTING BRASSHERALD IS A SCUM CLAIM.

[chennisden]

The scumteam is Elsa/Light, and by RAS's gameplan we lynch Light.

[chennisden]

We added brass to the hood last night.

[chennisden]

I got a full clear on Fuscosco.

And this.

[chennisden]

So we win.

Scum if you want to concede please do so; we can just like kill you guys anyways

[chennisden]

The town is Chennisden/Brassherald/Fuscosco and the scum is Elsa/Light.

[chennisden]

Yeah just in case I'm gonna wait for brass to confirm that you're town again. We kill light today.

[chennisden]

Like unless brass has some weird thing where he can bypass Loyal

Which I don't think is very likely; RAS independently townread him anyways.

[chennisden]

I haven't received my rolecop result either so I want to wait on that too.

[chennisden]

hunh. I thought Ved cleared her as a friendly neighbor

that was dunnstral dude

[chennisden]

anyway im conf town and brass is conf town

[chennisden]

and brass confed you town

[chennisden]

cool i got no result

[chennisden]

hey brass and fusco do you want to lynch elsa or light first

[chennisden]

like, who do you think has "higher town equity" (i mean they're both scum, but can't hurt to be careful)

[chennisden]

elsa was floating by her claim bro.

so does elsa die

[chennisden]

You know light is scum? Then they die

[chennisden]

Hey who got the tracker?

[chennisden]

Eh maybe it went to RAS.

[chennisden]

We added brass to the hood last night.

You fucking added me last night and you know it.

are you legit

trying to get people to think conf town is lying

[chennisden]

chenn, we need to settle this.

Dunn claims he got elsa's FN
Elsa has not claimed where else they went with that. They also appear to have gotten turned into a vig one night (?) so thatll mess with it.
Brass is confed why again? Like hes clearing me in a way that doesnt make sense, and I let it go yesterday because we were gonna rope him anyway later, but you now claimed hes confed.

He's in the neighborhood. RAS targeted him;

his neighborizer goes through EVEN if RAS dies.

[chennisden]

This game has been hoods and investigative modifiers and Im a gimped role cop who doesnt even get his own results.

Someone else gets your results, who gets them?

[chennisden]

No item.

[chennisden]

Brass unvote pls

[chennisden]

im gonna be honest and say I think youre janking me about Elsa and the hood

dude brass is legit

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RAS was like "nooo brass is town" and explained why brass town should win

so we took brass, and he was town

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i rolecopped her and got back no result.

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hey mayybe soooomeooone's asssceeetic!

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Please do a full roleclaim right now, and explain why anyone who's cleared as town is cleared as town.

I'll start.

I'm a rolecop who can only rolecop from N2 onwards.

Brassherald is cleared as town because RAS added him to the neighborhood, and RAS's actions succeed even if he is nightkilled. RAS is loyal so unless brass can bypass loyal restrictions (which I'm doubting) he is town.

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The person knows who was copped; I recieved light's cop

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You rushed the conf scum, light

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This is prob a bus

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Alright.

If Elsa is scum then forcing her to vote tells us something.

If Elsa is town then it doesnt matter who she votes

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Elsa, vote someone.

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I have a suspicion on who she votes.