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Aaaaaand back to nullscumIn post 69, Inferno390 wrote:However much this sounds likeI amparroting Tchill. I was addressing RC and you made a similar comment above.- themilkcartonkid
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This is also not greatIn post 64, Inferno390 wrote:However much this sounds like parroting Tchill, refusing to speak your mind when we’re all trying to sort and analyze just looks like you’re trying to look active without doing anything. Which does not earn you town-points. It’d be one thing if you were trying to get a reaction out of people. But right now you’re just calling attention to yourself and then not following up on it. Not great.- themilkcartonkid
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This looks much betterIn post 57, Tchill13 wrote:It's page 3 and I think you're full of it RC. Being cryptic helps nobody and it becomes a personal solve vs trying to work with others. You do you though. I'm not a fan of the style.- themilkcartonkid
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This interaction pinged me, although I dont know what it pinged or who pinged itIn post 86, NotAnAxehole wrote:
LolIn post 85, John Pierce Gantt wrote:
I was being specific about the whole miller situation. You saw the miller claim, and how people reacted to it already - either agreement or disagreement with the claim. Did you expect people to say other things than agreement/disagreement or the whole "miller claims at Day 1" theory?In post 31, Inferno390 wrote:I’m confused by this question. How does people talking about ANYTHING early help figure out alignments other than by looking at how they respond? Isn’t that literally how you play this game?
And I actually analyze voting patterns and talking patterns. The miller claim itself is not what I would look at, but how people interacted with each other regarding it and what voting patterns emerged.
I guess this explains Vorkuta's behavior.In post 45, Vorkuta wrote:(we lost a town game where this very thing happened)
At this point, NotAnAxeHole is close from being lynched, and if I understood correctly, for being a Canadian. Must be a rough life being a Canadian.
I don't like this post, especially the "However much this sounds like parroting Tchill" part. It sounds like he is worried about his actions looking bad. I think town wouldn't care as much about what they say as long as they get their points accross?In post 64, Inferno390 wrote:However much this sounds like parroting Tchill, refusing to speak your mind when we’re all trying to sort and analyze just looks like you’re trying to look active without doing anything. Which does not earn you town-points. It’d be one thing if you were trying to get a reaction out of people. But right now you’re just calling attention to yourself and then not following up on it. Not great.
Ah, the great "I'm not guilty; you have no proof."In post 80, Inferno390 wrote:Ok I see how it is
I called you out on your BS confscum claim and so you try to apply pressure to me
Lovely
When people have real reasons for calling me scum, let me know. I’ll be here waiting when they do.
This usually comes from guilty people.
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When someone quotes a post, that is an interaction. Axe interacted with you and either their interaction or your original response pinged me. Not sure yet whyIn post 150, John Pierce Gantt wrote:
Maybe it pinged for you because you viewed the whole post as an interaction when it really wasn't one?In post 146, themilkcartonkid wrote:This interaction pinged me, although I dont know what it pinged or who pinged it
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Actually, no. This looks bad. Why did you jump to me accusing you of scum interaction?In post 150, John Pierce Gantt wrote:
Maybe it pinged for you because you viewed the whole post as an interaction when it really wasn't one?In post 146, themilkcartonkid wrote:This interaction pinged me, although I dont know what it pinged or who pinged it
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I'm fairly certain theres at least 1 scum between jp, rc, axe, and tchill. So that's great. If I had to vote one of them right now it would be axe, but I dont trust my read there because its influenced by tone and theres a few things that dont match up with my internal logic. I dont think inferno has absolutely screamed scum since their first few posts but they havent pkayed well as town either. I do think they over reacted to their push, but that's nai atm. Will probably influence my read later post someone flipping. Honestly, I dont get the push on tchill. Seems more actually annoyed town than inferno did and RC tred inferno for that. Jp I dunno.. again mostly tone plus have they actually brought anything other than parroting? If they were lurking that would be one thing, but they post a good bit. Vork, what have they said scummy, someone whose tring them, what do you find good about them?- themilkcartonkid
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Honestly, I liked it. I did think stating your original case more clearly would have been a little better, but the replace out I dont think was your fault. Inferno butted heads with a few peopleIn post 320, RadiantCowbells wrote:Basically I was sick of games where there wasn't any strong momentum things to catch scum from and I decided to force one here.
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Be the changeIn post 346, Tchill13 wrote:
Well I'm gonna fake every single explanation to you for my own purpose. So don't worry about it.In post 340, RadiantCowbells wrote:Tchill what are all your reads?- themilkcartonkid
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Rc, I am the king of triple guessing a townread, so I'm serious when I say if I keep agreeing her, she may need to be lynched. But I think shes actually contributing well rnIn post 397, RadiantCowbells wrote:And she was universally townread in the last scum game where I had locked her scum on the first couple of pages so I'm really about everyone townreading her.
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I have a question. Tchill. I'm not 100% sold on you as scum yet, buuuut do you think that axe is scum? Straightforward answer pleaseIn post 412, Tchill13 wrote:That moment you just scowl from the side line because you refuse to post vomit.
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Congrats, you've convinced me.In post 425, Tchill13 wrote:Axehole is currently doing the most damage to town. Constantly calling me scum to fuel RC yet refusing to vote me. He's doing it on purpose obviously I just don't know what the purpose is.
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That and the fact that hes reaaaaaaally into why hes sred.In post 614, Jingle wrote:No, I get that he's all like RC godtier.
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2 if axe is lynched 5 if notIn post 623, Jingle wrote:Oh, cool, cause I checked the wiki and it appears to have changed.
hey milky, scale from 1 to 10, how likely are you to be lynched this game?- themilkcartonkid
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DisengageIn post 712, RuiRui wrote:
Why did you claim cop...?In post 697, NotAnAxehole wrote:I'm hard claiming VT- themilkcartonkid
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...maybe you're getting better...In post 717, Tchill13 wrote:
No. I don't fake claim hardly at all and when I fake claim I do not crumb. I'm certain if you ISOED every game I've played you wouldn't find a scum fake claim that involved a crumb.In post 632, Vorkuta wrote:
QUIIIICK question.In post 620, Tchill13 wrote:Because I crumbed it.
Do you have """other/additional""" crumbs in your ISO that you planted/would've used if things went another way?- themilkcartonkid
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Your flip will do a better job of convincing people you know. VOTE: tchillIn post 748, Tchill13 wrote:OK so RC and Vorkuta are absolutely determined to lynch me. That's fine. I need to know who's willing to at least listen to me.- themilkcartonkid
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Yeah, I now agree with you on thisIn post 756, RadiantCowbells wrote:
this is why we lynch tchill and not axe. i don't trust you.In post 755, RuiRui wrote:I'm inclined to vote for Axe because I don't see how faking a cop claim can help the town, whereas it's at least plausible in my eyes that tchill can be town (sorry)- themilkcartonkid
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I need to reread the thread because I was soooooo very certain of my crazy conspiracy that rc and jingle were running the game and using axe as their scum bus but wanted to wait until d2 to actually bus. It was based on the fact that they wouldn't let anyone vote axe who seemed waaaaay more scummy imo. But I'm like very lost.- themilkcartonkid
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Okay, rereading the thread, only on p 8 but I can kiiiiinda see where RC actually developed his SR of Tchill and Axe if they were actual reads. I went in thinking I would not be able to read RC, but I think the concern that Tchill had for Axe plus axe's lack of communication pinged RC initially (#168-170). Why is this important? I think there is actually a case for town!RC which I did not think there would be. I thought it was a mostly random reactiontest with Tchill blowing up being the thing. But I think it was earlier.
I am also getting weird vibes from JP after reading their tone. It's so formal and calculated. It seems like every word is chosen specifically to be non-offensive and Helpful(tm) like a political speech instead of an actual read. It could be playstyle, but I wrote like that as scum my first game for those actual reasons. (I think they said it was their first game)- themilkcartonkid
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I agree, which is why I asked how many times they've played as scum. I think Newtown or even just town is likely to do this, but I think only newscum or very very experienced scum would be that openIn post 900, RadiantCowbells wrote:
sincerely doubt scum would be so open about it and the fact that both of your scumreads are on the two players who have done the lynchbaitiest things while both being tonally town is not a good look for you here, jingle.In post 897, Jingle wrote:
Or, alternatively, the kill was partially intended to frame someone and Vork was planting the thought.In post 853, RadiantCowbells wrote:That kind of level-0 thinking regarding the TMCK kill is if anything town-indicative.- themilkcartonkid
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*Refutes own point and doesn't realize it*In post 941, chennisden wrote:@Jingle:
No. IMO lynchbait pushing me just makes me harder to lynch.
Scum can buddy and if you're a PR they can learn more about your plans and scum can counteract. From my experience it's a lot easier for scum to live in a neighborhood.
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I think I need to start playing the 4d chess that some of these reads are clearly playingIn post 939, Skellen wrote:
Fair point. Basically I agree with that. My assumption however was that scum would also like to get a PR lynched, particularly if he played as terrible as Axe did at the end of D1, so I was looking for noticable changes between the Axe and tchill wagons knowing that both were town. When Axe was with 5:3 in front, so an Axe lynch was more likely, Inferno was still on Axe as scum and tchill as frustrated and honest town. Later he was sold on scum!tchill after tchill also had roleclaimed and it was 4:4, but ultimately hesitated because of RC's gambit earlier. Since a cop would probabaly have for scum higher priority than an ascetic it looked to me like he was trying to have it both ways as long as possible, therefore I asked specifically Inferno.In post 935, John Pierce Gantt wrote: In normal situation, it would be correct.
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Actually, all things equal, if there is not vig, I think the Miller claim would be real because the only reason why you would kill a cop claim as poor as axe would be if you genuinely though they could be cop. If there was a real Miller, then there will probably be some sort of an investigative role. They would have had to have a reason to believe axe I think. Maybe Miller is that reason. I'm not saying there is a cop, but I think there is a miller- themilkcartonkid
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Because it's hard enough to be consistent in 1 thread as scum, you are more likely to be inconsistent, to trip up, or to expose your own scum logic in two threadsIn post 950, Inferno390 wrote:How does a neighborizer sort?
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In post 940, Jingle wrote:Chen:
As scum do you nightkill lynchbait who is pushing you?
Why does scum want to infiltrate the neighborhood?
Did you read:
Does it effect your tmck read?In post 810, Jingle wrote:Please let me know if you want to join me and a mysterious third person in partying hardy.
Inferno, or whoever, what do yall think about this inconsistent logic, is it scum or town or total nai?In post 941, chennisden wrote:@Jingle:
No. IMO lynchbait pushing me just makes me harder to lynch.
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This, this is the inconsistancyIn post 956, RuiRui wrote:Chenn is saying that he wouldn't kill lynchbait who was pushing him, but also said that themilkcartonkid is the only person who it makes sense to nightkill Axe.- themilkcartonkid
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