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[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

Oh my lord

I am player 11 in the list and the 11th digit of pi is 8 so

VOTE: Creature

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

VOTE: Sheldon
i'm so fucking tired of these meme accounts - can we policy this?

I believe in segment 3 chapter 7 sub section A of the Mafia Stategy guide it says that players who wish to policy lynch before scum hunting are more likely than not to be scum and we should place our votes here

VOTE: DrDolittle

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

ddl can be voted for saying silly things

let's see how well you can handle it when sheldon says his 60th 'buzzinga im in my spot'

This is just silly
I say buzzinga when I have executed a hearty practical joke

And I never joke about my spot

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

my answer and the divine answer is the two dorks with a schtick

hot take u should b asking me what kind of player I THINK you are, my preconceived notions or smth useful like that

Expand on your hypothesis around preconceptions

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

will vote:
1.TTTT
5.DrDolittle
3.Carmen
VOTE: TTTT

don't know
8.Creature
9.MaryJoLisa
10.wilky
6.Sashaddin
4.Shiidaji

not voting right now
7.Macabre
11.BrightEyedFish
13.insomnia
2.RadiantCowbells

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

Creature is working his way up my scum list

I think we need an experiment to test this hypothesis

VOTE: Creature

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

can u not play so fucking minimalist

On this occasion I will humor you, do you think Creatures ISO warrants a hypothesis anything above minimal at this point?

However, in future, check your manners.

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

@sheldon
talk to me about Creature's recent posts

I don't think they did anything other than to increase the number of posts he made in this thread.

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

Full disclosure: If I think you’re on an alt and I decide that you’re trying to hide your main, one will be assigned to you and I will hold you fully responsible for that other person’s meta good or bad. (This might actually carry some weight to it if I knew who any of you were.)

what does this achieve?

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

I think Cowbells is town but I don't know why. Instinct.

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

/runs to meemaws house away from the shouting

(Seriously calm down)

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

Hol’ up two newbies leading the game isn’t good I’ll wait for thoughts

I am serious about mass claim though to be completely honest

This is going to be one of the games where town lynches town if we don’t give roles

Golly gosh this is concerning

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

oh look I'm in my spot

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

Hol’ up two newbies leading the game isn’t good I’ll wait for thoughts

I am serious about mass claim though to be completely honest

This is going to be one of the games where town lynches town if we don’t give roles

Golly gosh this is concerning

Do you think that post makes insomnia more or less likely to be scum?

Maybe a town indication - Scum might be inclined to avoid doing things that make everyone panic and be very conscious about it.

Going to re-read the ISO and take a bit of context though now.

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

I'm a little bit concerned about 364 - It's unclear where the uturn on BEF came from.
I am also concerned about the bit where Insomnia said something like if BEF flips town I'll lynch Sash - as in Scum!insomnia knows BEF is town but is lining up a mislynch path so he has an 'out' if that makes sense?

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

Sheldon can you respond to 557?

I forgot what I spotted to be honest.

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

I told you. Everyone was saying my push was garbage, nobody backed me up on it.

If townies don’t see what I see then me tunneling BEF is unproductive and it lets scum slip under the radar. It would be an anti-town thing for me to keep tunneling BEF because I am the most active person in here. Imagine having a 1v1 with someone that has 40 posts per day on average. People can grab some popcorn and scum can chill in PT scum hunting prs

see I don't like this either- you said in 364 you think BEF is town

Now 562 seems to have gone back to you are scum reading BEF and that you just don't think you can talk town into the lynch, which does happen but you specific stance is so unclear.

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

Do you want to vote insomnia with me?

I think it would be good if he specifically stated if he is scum reading or town reading bef right now before i decide

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

Ofc I still scum read BEF but I said I town read him because me pushing someone that is being town read by everyone doesn’t achieve anything. My tunnel would go nowhere.

I am not sure if this is a phrasing issue that is my issue in terms of comprehension or if you are doing something obscure intentionally here.

I think where you are at is that you scum read BEF, you always scum read BEF but you don't want to ruin the gamestate given that no one supports your assertion

Where the confusion is introduced is what comes over as back tracking when you say you then town read based on everyone elses read - i think that is infact false- you just accept that you can't convince town is the lynch today but you personally don't town read him

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

Yeye call me out for hypocrisy push an easy mislynch

youll note I'm trying to clarify before considering voting but ok jump to wrong conclusions all you want

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

Null-to-culturally-offended:

Sheldon Cooper PhD – Upon further investigation, they are in fact RPing the part. Lame. Meemaw is what the character on the TV calls his grandmother. THAT’S A CHEAP SHOT, SHELDON! (I’m not really culturally offended, but I don’t have a read on this player and when in doubt, lean scum).

Buzzinga!

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

Insomnia has said he town read BEF when he actually scum read him but has been quite open about the reasons for that.
He also put forward a day 1 mass claim.

I think insomnia just presses 'submit' before fully engaging his brain.

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

That mass claim thing is suicide.

Who believes the crow is a doctor?

mass claiming is suicide but doctor speculation is probably not helpful either

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

quick peek @ MJL's history she hasn't played in any games with factional daytalk yet that I can see. after my 514 I was waiting for her to ask about it similar to how she asked about insomnia being unlynchable.

since the ruleset here is pretty curt about it and doesn't explain the meaning it makes me feel that she could be scum that's already aware of it in the first place and glanced over it. Ya'll know her better lmk if you think it's indicative.

I didn’t bother to meta dive but MJL also referenced that there would be 3v10 scum here

Whilst I accept that is the given convention I didn’t think it was openly stated anywhere (I might have missed it)

Interesting that someone else spotted something similar

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

If Ankamius and RC could arrive at some kind of point or agreement on what they think then i think the game will move on

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

Pushing Ankamius is a distraction. Gamestate indicates pretty clearly that scum are pretty alright with Ankamius getting all heat.

can you cut to the chase and nominate your preferred inactive for us to vote then as that seems to be where you are going

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

Right I'm hungover and meme'ing is harder than I thought 16 pages + have appeared since I last checked in so can people give me a summary on why these names keep popping up:

TTTT
Wilky
DDL
Sash

From a quick read they seem like the slots that will culminate in a lynch so someone bring me up to speed

also, i think im on creature and he is very likely town
UNVOTE:
i think RC is town but scum are letting him wave his dick around in the wrong direction, i mostly going to sheep creature, i know he is scum reading me but i think he is just preoccupied with the meme so I can overlook that.

I'm probably going to vote TTTT or DDL someone help...

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

well, wouldn't do Sash today.

So TTTT or DDL today.

yeah but why

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

What did Sasha do? I’d rather vote DDL

Consider this a conditional DDL vote and I’ll do it for real when I see the VC

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

UNVOTE:

I've been meaning to meta Sasha and i want to do that before lynch.

i do think this is all scum indicative but i want to be sure on that.

Hmmm

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

Macabre soft claimed a pr

Someone asked me why I TR’d Macabre and I just said don’t remember- I lied, it was this. (Wilky I think?)

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

insomnia you were calling me scum with DDL when it was convenient then the moment I started to turn that around on you you backed off and made this some kind of policy thing.
truth is that you never wanted the conflict with me, you just wanted to use me against DDL and as a tool to make yourself townier cuz DDL wasn't flipping scum anyway.

Dude no one wants a conflict with you and everyone treads on egg shells around you on every game

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

I always undermine myself and my reads because you are in my games, I have to play around you and consider your reads almost every time and a lot of players feel the same way

How about you start listening to anyone else but yourself for once

Yes please

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

VOTE: DDL

Bit of a vanity vote but when I get a bit of time I’ll be looking a bit more closely on how the original DDL wagon crumbled

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

However it is my belief that this brain has boldly claimed to be a bad brain. It does not think well. Evil!

VOTE: Sheldon Cooper PhD

Enlighten me, crow. Help!

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

oh, raven* haha

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

ooo, The raven believes I am in cahoots with the seal. Curious!

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

I believe the Seal to be town, which is a shame as I would like very much to lynch him. Sadness!

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

why what

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

Well I think Sash was the counter wagon to DDL so I'm voting there, I'm pretty committed to that vote but lets look elsewhere.

My thought is RC is town and scum are letting them do their work for them because everyone knows that's how he goes.
I think Macabre is town and I can't remember why I think Creature is town

So looking at the last couple of VCs we have:
Sashaddin [5]: Shiidaji, Carmen, wilky, DrDolittle, insomnia
and you were on the previous VC where it was just you and Carmen.

so looking at Shiidaji, I struggle to work out why he has picked Sash, that bugs me but I'll revisit this compared to the others.
Carmen is pushing DDL as town which seems to drive the Sash vote.
Wilky - he queries the above, missing the fact Carmen is defending DDL - even though he does say that DDL & Sash should be TvS - this is quite a big alarm bell I think.
DDL - I did a quick flick of his ISO and I noticed Wilky was getting a bit snippy at DDL for not responding quickly, I have been victim of scum!wilky saying stuff like that which is not really alignment indicative which is interesting.
Insomnia - actually wants DDL but is just trying to prove a point so whilst that is a principle / policy type vote he is prob town.


so there is something weird going on in that Wilky/DDL/Carmen loop I think. I reckon we hit 2/3 scum at least there, if not the whole team. I feel like DDL is the right place to be for today.

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

Brain, have you tried to be my shield in the past? Memory loss!

We've never played together before, sorry!

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

There's no way all my Town reads on that wagon are legit if Sasha is town

yeah look closely at wilky, he says Sasha town = DDL scum and vice versa but he doesn't know why Carmen is voting Sash... yet look at Carmen and she is distinctly saying DDL is town which is probably as close to a reason as you'll get

I might be putting words in people's mouths but I think something fishy is going on within that little loop of 3 people. A DDL flip helps my reads lol!

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

I thought you softed PR - I hid that earlier, then someone outed it so I also outed it... if that's what you mean, Raven? Confirm!

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

and you've lost me again haha

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

my meme was too hard to maintain so I was enjoying that one

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

so you're saying we should vote me instead?

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

Well I think Sash was the counter wagon to DDL so I'm voting there, I'm pretty committed to that vote but lets look elsewhere.

Spoiler:

My thought is RC is town and scum are letting them do their work for them because everyone knows that's how he goes.
I think Macabre is town and I can't remember why I think Creature is town

So looking at the last couple of VCs we have:
Sashaddin [5]: Shiidaji, Carmen, wilky, DrDolittle, insomnia
and you were on the previous VC where it was just you and Carmen.

so looking at Shiidaji, I struggle to work out why he has picked Sash, that bugs me but I'll revisit this compared to the others.
Carmen is pushing DDL as town which seems to drive the Sash vote.
Wilky - he queries the above, missing the fact Carmen is defending DDL - even though he does say that DDL & Sash should be TvS - this is quite a big alarm bell I think.
DDL - I did a quick flick of his ISO and I noticed Wilky was getting a bit snippy at DDL for not responding quickly, I have been victim of scum!wilky saying stuff like that which is not really alignment indicative which is interesting.
Insomnia - actually wants DDL but is just trying to prove a point so whilst that is a principle / policy type vote he is prob town.

so there is something weird going on in that Wilky/DDL/Carmen loop I think. I reckon we hit 2/3 scum at least there, if not the whole team. I feel like DDL is the right place to be for today.

I think those two ideas are conflicted.

how so

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

I don’t get it - I mean I feel like DDL is the right place to be as in the right place to put my vote to catch scum ?

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

You will notice that your caught scum in The Brain didn't start actually trying until BEF was the wagon and was content to let me wagon other people since I kept wagoning town. Suspicious!

Or I was at a party then rather hungover meanwhile 20 or so pages appeared. Keep trying!

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

I like that the macabre meme is catching on, trendy!

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

Didn’t your meemaw ever tell you to keep your snap snap to yourself, Crude!

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

give me a quick summary of why he is scum i literally missed the whole original wagon

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

sheep me on BEF pls

I'm still waiting on your meta case.

Or any case

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

I will accept we are not going to get DDL today but I am going to need someone to talk me into where I vote next as this day is a bit messy... if someone can convince me their idea is a sound lynch I think that is surely going to help town look at that discussion and as a group converge on a viable lynch today - I don't feel like we are actually getting close to 'you basically need to choose between x or y' which is usually how the end of day 1 kinda goes in my head.

Make sense?

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

But who else if pushing him? I’m happy to go back if a wagon appears but look at VC right now... I don’t see where it comes from?

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

Worth noting that tttt has been pretty active on site yet not posted in this game since sunday.

TTTT where the fuck you at?

He’s in the bin

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

We should have a 30% chance to hit a random here.

Crikey

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

Lmao the mod spoke in Macabre’s language

It is clearly the better meme. Defeat!

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

My muse is scared and does nothing to inspire!

Carmen

I actually thought by you saying you had a muse it was a soft mason claim haha

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

My muse is scared and does nothing to inspire!

Carmen

I actually thought by you saying you had a muse it was a soft mason claim haha

Does this brain claim to believe that this sleepy boy picked up on the same idea, to out this crow, and does this brain expect me to believe they are my shield? Town credits, you shall get none. Poor!

No I expect masons usually crumb quickly so I just went off that and put you in the town pile early but didn’t really want to say “look PR!” First for obvious reasons

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

rn Macabre is refusing to do a simple task.

if everyone could townspew on demand the game would be solved in the first day. I'd ignore you too

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

this is like playing with 2 RCs

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

Insomnia, RC And Creature have both said it could be me / vedith / DDL but i never see them vote DDL

do you think it can be DDL/Creature/RC ?

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

VOTE: DDL

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

KK

At least I don't have to play with insomnia ever again

you are impossible

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

Searching for a replacement for RadiantCowbells

haha dont search too hard, he'll be back

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

well good

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

& why me

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

& why me

I trust the people already on your wagon.

And the good reasons they’ve given that you trust are...

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

& why me

I trust the people already on your wagon.

And the good reasons they’ve given that you trust are...

bef ?

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

right

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

Can we lynch scum so I can confirm myself already?

Then vote with us if you want to lynch so badly.

youwant him to self vote?

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

ahh i thought that was a VC it was a quote up there oops

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

Imagine macabre stealing all of our accounts and playing by himself, posting like this. Fun!

a man has many faces


can we do a lynch yet, impatient!

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

I am voting DDL and I think that's the way to go but I'm about ready to compromise on BEF :@ vote DDL!

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

Urgh someone on my wagon is looking after DDL

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

It’ll be BEF

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

Urgh someone on my wagon is looking after DDL

I tried to get the sash wagon moving along. Perhaps you should have looked more into that wagon instead of focusing purely on DDL.

what

Sash will be the scum counter wagon of choice to save DDL, that makes Sash town
Sash didn't work and it's now coming in my direction... it can't go in Insomnias direction as that would be too obvious as he is the main pusher of DDL (from my pov anyway)

so someone pushing me is helping to save DDL here

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

yessssss have I really been that unclear

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

summarise your case on shii.

sash will be town when ddl flips scum that much is obvious.

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

he just means he's claimed VT he isn't actually an IC... until we freaking flip DDL !!!!

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

he just means he's claimed VT he isn't actually an IC... until we freaking flip DDL !!!!

A very odd observation! I did not believe that this green was at such a high caliber of play to know for sure that this bear had been scum. I thought for sure he meant he was no longer worth killing! Curious!

I think you look into things and draw conclusions which aren't really there, but people don't really notice because of your meme, shame!

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

VOTE: BEF
we should do this :@

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

and this
VOTE: DDL

can we double lynch please

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

Moment

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

Vote Count 1.13

Nightmice

votes

DrDolittle [5]

: Sheldon Cooper PhD, insomnia, Sashaddin, wilky, Shiidaji

Shiidaji [3]

: Creature, Pretentious, Ankamius

Sheldon Cooper PhD [3]

: Emperor flippyNips, BrightEyedFish, Macabre

Sashaddin [2]

: Vedith, DrDolittle

Not Voting [0]

:

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch

The Day 1 deadline is in

: (expired on 2019-04-13 12:44:08)

Urgh someone on my wagon is looking after DDL

VOTE: bef

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

so to the people voting me - sash was l-1 and we got a vt claim out of him - we didnt lynch that so we presumably believe it otherwise you just lynch a VT - right?

therefore, that would mean if we believe Sash is town, we are also apparently not lynching DDL, so the narrative is we believe he is town... why would i as scum not just go 'oh hey a VT claim, i'll hammer that' - are we all saying we are content that i was trying to sort what was going on at the point of L-1 sash because i knew he was town and i just fancied trying to move the mislynch onto another slot for a potential better mislynch, even though if i was scum and if i thought DDL was a PR, i could just shoot him that night...

i mean, that is an interesting consideration but as long as everyone is aware that is how this day played out then sure lynch me haha

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

that entire post falls apart when you realize that the claim has nothing to do with why the wagon fell apart

you are right - but - i think people are now voting sash because "you dont vote a claimed PR" - well - obviously scum are going to keep claiming PRs to not get lynched and we are going to just circle back on sash if you think like that... DDL is still the scum here... BEF too but... alas.

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

When you say it like that I don’t believe you

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

About bef

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

:@

Fine

VOTE: Sash

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

I will be clear here

Sheldon is actually my second most confident scumread since he's in a dichotomy with another player for this spot on the scumteam

but the top scumread is not useful to the game dead and if I die n2, I'd rather leave the game with two obvscum in the worst case scenario

I'm so bad at this meme I had to look up the word dichotomy

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

VOTE: DDL

Can only be a fake claim imo

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

DDL - can you say exactly what your role is - day 1 you said cop and now you say I have a PT (I don’t for the record)

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

Sigh

On the brighter side of things when you lynch me and then realise you need to lynch DDL next because this is wrong at least with the no night death we won’t have wasted as much time as we could have I guess

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

Why are we not flipping DDL and tabling the discussion for tomorrow? Why waste brain power on 2 cases, when his scum flip is inevitable and tomorrow we only need to think of what the red implication means?

Like duh it’s so obvious

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

if I was scum wouldn't I just self hammer and nerf that endeavour

vote ddl tomorrow please

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

preferably now I suppose but I'm realistic

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

Assume Sheldon’s scum, what are the associatives?

I know right

[Sheldon Cooper PhD]

We have a PT cop that gives us a guilty on someone who claims to be a VT.

Worse case scenario is that Sheldon is actually a VT and we get to turbo lynch scum!ddl tomorrow.

Why is there so much resistance? The remaining scum team is just trying to coast this day out and I don't see any other GOOD information coming out from this situation...

Can we just lynch Sheldon please?

lets go with DDL !