BooneyToonz X: Boonin’ It In The Slums [TOWN WIN]

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\o/

That's not the right RC you fool!

-smart

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Oh, and, since I have Baezu's blessing to do this:

We are ascetic.

Stay away!

-smart

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Loving this playerlist!

-b

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Only a couple of players I haven't played with in this game, so I think I'm gonna do well.

Also, because everyone else is already doing these kinds of gimmicks: I'm a "non-consecutive night Commuter".

I'll probably start commuting tonight as to avoid dying N1 as I'm a huge threat to scum, and then claim D2 that I didn't actually commute N1 to get myself to D3 because scum are afraid to miss a nightkill N2, only to realize that I really DID start commuting N1 meaning that I'll also commute N3 meaning that they can't kill me then either....

All hail the unkillable god UnaBombah! \o/

Also isn't that the role Mulch had in the danganronpa alt trainwreck game (and I was ascetic in that one too! )

-smart

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you know what would be super funny
if S_S rolled scum for the 3rd time in a row in boon games

No that would actually be tragic, especially since poor Baezu would be dragged into my curse...

...but fortunately it didn't happen

-smart

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inb4- Vork why you getting all defensive and stuff?

Striking something through doesn't make it any less true. You are getting defensive.

But that's hardly alignment indicative...

-smart

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I never said it was alignment indicative, but you shouldn't strike something through when it's the truth. What's the point of this post?

I mean if you want to tell Vorkuta how he should and shouldn't communicate, okay fine. (I think it was jokingly serious and thus perfectly acceptable, but you have a right to disagree.) But it was entirely possible that you (or someone else) was intending to make a judgement on his alignment on that basis, in which case my comment becomes relevant.

-smart

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Do I update my read and in-depth ISO analysis on TLK, or do I wait until I get more posts?

YES!

This is critical for my participation in the game!

-b

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I do enjoy the happy, wriggling cactus.

Me too!

-b

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not really. If you aren't going to contribute then how do you expect to help town achieve its wincon? If not you who should we be random lynching on d1?

Read my last post in regards to this lack of contribution you think that I am going to be providing.
As far as who we should be random lynching on this beautiful D1 (I mean, it was before you started being a party pooper of course), I’m starting to think it should be you. I’m really not enjoying your negativity.

Agreed

VOTE: NC

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I have a busy day at work I'll get to mafia over the weekend.

Side.note, we.could just lynch Nero. His attitude just seems forced.
I'll decide over the weekend though.

Do it, V! Join us!

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I have a busy day at work I'll get to mafia over the weekend.

Side.note, we.could just lynch Nero. His attitude just seems forced.
I'll decide over the weekend though.

It's like you guys are having two different arguments with each other. Because neither of you understand what the other is saying.

Yup, listen to TDK- he’s your father lololol

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If you're scum would you ever attempt awe's entrance?

I did it in the last Boon game lol

-smart

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Why can't I view the topic you're linking RAS?

Because he posted it first in the scum PT.

VOTE: RAS

-smart

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Yeah sorry dude, that sucks :/

I've never seen it personally but I do know that kind of thing has happened before. It's due to the weird way that [post] tags work.

-smart

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How many posts are in the mason PT?

-smart

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UNVOTE:

Damn.

-smart

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You should have claimed neighbors with him not masons btw.

-smart

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Why are we red?

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But we're town

-smart

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Do you believe our ascetic claim?

-smart

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I don't see why it's not true.
It doesn't really suggest align though.

Well, (a) ascetic scum is very powerful and (b) claiming ascetic as scum loses 90% of the power. So claiming ascetic as ascetic scum is a gambit, probably on par with a miller gambit... so it's not impossible. But it is less likely.

Not to mention, Boon likes making townies ascetic because it's interesting, and he doesn't like making scum ascetic because it's boring and strong. I don't think Boon has ever had an ascetic scum but I have been town ascetic in a Boon game before. (Well, he had ascetic prizes in BTE, but that hardly counts.)

-smart

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Vork is almost definitely stupid town.

I'll.... take what I can get I suppose.

This feels like a town reaction

-smart

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DEB would be a fine lynch. Lot of fluff.

Is fluff scummy?

-smart

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Fluff is the lack of actively developing reads or putting in effort to help town.

How can you have a "lot" of it then? Either you have it or you don't...

-smart

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What I'm getting at is, that's not what I've usually taken fluff to mean. I was under the impression that it meant any posting that wasn't related to the game, which does not preclude the player ALSO having posts that ARE related to the game, and is also not alignment indicative in 95% of situations.

-smart

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Or you could... never lynch us because we wouldn't claim ascetic as scum?

-smart

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Do you want to say it again and, you know, actually engage with us?

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Maybe why you scumread us?

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Maybe why you scumread us?

-smart

Your entire argument to town read you is because of your role.
And you think because of that you don't need to do anything and should be treated as an IC?

Are you concerned on Nero scum reading you too or only me?

Jumping to extremes, there's a difference between "treated as IC" and "not lynched D1." If I were in your position I'd treat us as an IC but I know you don't necessarily know how we play as well as we do.

I'm concerned about being scumread. Nero isn't pushing to lynch us today though so it's not as concerning.

Maybe why you scumread us?

-smart

how come you didn't respond to my reasons for scum reading you?

I must have skipped over them or something. Let me go look now.

-smart

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Yeah sorry dude, that sucks :/

I've never seen it personally but I do know that kind of thing has happened before. It's due to the weird way that post tags work.

-smart

Reading this back is really weird to me, actually. Why would you initially think that I would write/post Post 519 in a Scum PT as opposed to something like a Thought Bank?

Because almost nobody uses private topics for thoughts, and nobody would post a wall like that in a thought PT first-- the whole point of posting it somewhere is to get someone else's opinion on it.

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Oh hey, found it.

370-joins the Nero PL

376 -encourages the Nero pl

Not gonna answer for Baezu, I don't know what she was thinking

444-light pushes AWE as scum.

Oh damn, answering questions to bring more information to the game is light pushing people now. Better watch out.

526-weak! pushes a slip as scum.

Weak? I caught a REAL slip. That wasn't any of that fake slip bullshit from BTE, that was a real PT slip. It just so happens that the PT wasn't the scum one... (BUT HEY: If I were scum I'd KNOW what PT it was, and I probably wouldn't draw attention to it knowing I'd probably be pushing a slip on a soon-to-be-confirmed mason. But nah, go ahead and stick to "pushed a slip = scum".)

0% scum hunting

Hi, nice to meet you, I'm Something_Smart. I like long walks on the beach and I DON'T like scumhunting on D1.

and has voted only town.

Is this a burden of proficiency argument lol? Idk about Baezu but I'm more likely to vote scum on D1 when I AM scum than when I'm not.

-smart

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You caught a real slip, but as I just mentioned, you immediately jumped to conclusions. Vedith caught the same slip but didn't push on it which was a lot more natural.

My reaction was way more genuine. Statistically speaking the odds of you being scum are orders of magnitude greater than the odds of you being a mason in that situation, and furthermore, scum are more likely to run posts by their partners to make sure it looks towny than masons would be (I'm still confused why you did it at all ).
Not to mention I was excited at likely catching a scum. I did note in our hydra PT that you could get out of it by claiming neighbor or mason, but I didn't want to give you any help if you were scum.

From an outside perspective, I would think it's suspicious, but it's not something I would immediately jump on cause it could work both ways.To add, everything you've in parentheses in this post is completely meaningless, and you should know that. The fact that you specifically used the word "probably" twice in there kind of proves my point.

False. Scum try to avoid attention. If I'm scum and I see your post and think "oh, he's probably mason," I'm not going to immediately jump on it because I KNOW that's gonna bite me in the ass.

You're biased because you knew there were masons in the game to begin with. Mason is not a common role, and I don't think Boon has ever used them before. You need to look at this from my perspective.

-smart

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Vork wagon is terrible.

Y?

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What the fuck do yall wamt me to do? Yall want me to try hard d1? Lurk? Or sheep. Which fucking play keeps me from getting lynched day one.

I’m not lynching chill d1

-b

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Why do you keep bringing stuff like "Boon hasn't ever used them before"? You've used it for your Ascetic claim, now you're using it for Masons. Why is this relevant in any way?

Because what you need to do here is see inside my head, and in my head, the most likely explanation for your slip by far was that you were scum. Like I said I did consider the possibility that you were a mason but that was remote. If Boon put masons in ever other BT game then maybe I'd be like, "well there's a decent chance he's a mason then," but all things considered, because he doesn't use them a lot, the odds of you being one was low.

I'm not even going to respond to the rest of your post because it's illogical. If you think me asking for your POV is me being biased, then all power to you.

You're not asking for my POV. You're telling me why it's wrong.

-smart

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And thoughts on RAS and Awe?
They both came into the game pretty hard town reading each other and only each other really. It makes no sense for them to do this and basically make them scum lovers with that play.

I only ask this as you showed concern after the claim while accepting it.

Not voting them today either

-b

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My thoughts on Abstract Nonsense are that their ISO is just that. :/ Thier claim is really the only thing that makes me not want their head right away. I think they are lurking really hard and not hunting. When they are here their posts stink.

All posts before this are hollow.

inb4- Vork why you getting all defensive and stuff?

Striking something through doesn't make it any less true. You are getting defensive.

But that's hardly alignment indicative...

-smart

I don't really like this post that much b/c I do think anger can be AI. You could argue that its null behavior I guess but lots of scum do get angry when they are being scum read.

But it was entirely possible that you (or someone else) was intending to make a judgement on his alignment on that basis, in which case my comment becomes relevant.

but why do you give a shit if anyway scumreads Vork?

370-joins the Nero PL

376 -encourages the Nero pl

444-light pushes AWE as scum.

526-weak! pushes a slip as scum.

0% scum hunting and has voted only town. If this isn't nk'd in a few days I want it lynched.

You’re absolutely right! I have not been available for a few days, but I’m on now and participating...any questions for me?

-B

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UNVOTE:

Yes I am.

Hmm. This got a lot more interesting a lot quicker than I'd thought.

Agreed!

-b

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Awestfie please tell your mason buddy he's being narrow-minded -.-

-smart

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Like todays lynch should be in

XtoxicNim
Vorkuta
RC car
Unabombah
The Last Knight
Dr Easy Bake
Vedith
Ceejayvinoya
Tchill13

get rid of one of these players and start to make the pool smaller from the prs to investigate.

I agree with NC, let the investigatives do their job and we get more info tomorrow

-b

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like all of


Vorkuta
RC car
The Last Knight
Dr Easy Bake
Ceejayvinoya
Tchill13

seem scummy and/or useless. I feel like lynching in there so there's not as much ML bait to burn investigations seems like it would be helpful. idk

NC is the only one I’ve seen that has decent ideas, why can’t the rest of town get it together?

Vedith, if we’re scum, you have plenty of time to get us. We lynch in the non claims today

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I don't see how in the world you can possibly think this way.

Do you assume that everyone who holds a viewpoint you don't understand must be lying about it?

-smart

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What the fuck do yall wamt me to do? Yall want me to try hard d1? Lurk? Or sheep. Which fucking play keeps me from getting lynched day one.

I’m not lynching chill d1

-b

Who would you lynch then?

Ceejay, Dave, RC

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I don't think he's being narrow minded.

I think your understanding on probability is bad."Hi guys, Boonskiies never had X in any of his games, so you guys better believe me when I say I'm X" is not how this works. It's not your exact wording, but it's what you're trying to accomplish.

That's not what I said though... I said "Boon has never used scum X but he's used town X a lot, AND X is confirmable by literally anyone visiting us, so you should believe me when I say I'm town X."

-smart

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Awestfie please tell your mason buddy he's being narrow-minded -.-

-smart

I don't think he's being narrow minded. I think your understanding on probability is bad.

"Hi guys, Boonskiies never had X in any of his games, so you guys better believe me when I say I'm X" is not how this works. It's not your exact wording, but it's what you're trying to accomplish.

Why are we a better lynch than Dave, or RC?

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Also hai Baezu did you forget that dave claimed miller

I read that claim as likely true, I very much doubt he'd be the type to gambit there.

-smart

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We lynch in the non claims today

Dave

What did Dave claim?

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Yes I did forget

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So many claims in this game! Jeez

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mine isnt a PL
it was an rvs vote
but sheldon does have one of the less impressive game starts imo

early sr:
sheldon, tlk, vorkuta, awestfie

most others are varying degrees of town

Looking at cactus iso, I’m not liking his sr at all

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VOTE: Vork

Why are you voting vork?

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I'm typically gonna be all fluff D1 so get used to it people.

I get this and I don’t find it scummy

-b

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My main concern about you CJ was that you were throwing a lot of shade around, vote or otherwise, and it pinged me because I prefer to tunnel early rather than spread a wide net. So I wanted to hear your town reads to get a feel for your idea of the game state.

Did CJ ever respond to this?

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That she shouldn't be confirmed town from it? Ceejay was about to say that she should be considered definitely town because scum would never enter the way she did. In a direct response to his question, I pointed out that actually, scum can enter the way she did. If I wanted to push for a wagon on her, I would have voted her, I have absolutely no qualms about showing up on town wagons as scum.

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Why?

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I said "Boon has used ascetic town and not ascetic scum. Therefore my ascetic claim is likely town."

Awestfie said I said "Boon has not used ascetic before. Therefore my ascetic claim is likely town."

That is not a wording difference. That is a meaning difference. What she said is clearly wrong because I have BEEN ascetic town in a Boon game before.

-smart

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Because Boon makes ascetic town more than he makes ascetic scum, which means that, if we really are ascetic, we are more likely to be town than scum.

-smart

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we are likely to be town

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So why are you voting someone who's likely to be town?

-smart

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Why?

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To the vote, obviously. I don't care if you steal pagetops.

-smart

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We've been discussing this in our pt and we both agree that you're being over the top with your ascetic claim and what it means.

Oh yes, absolutely. I'm well aware that my argument is not meant to be a lock, and it's not meant to be a reason why we should never be lynched ever.

But one of the first rules of scumhunting is that scum in general try not to draw attention to themselves (or more specifically, scum try not to draw unnecessary attention to themselves). Do you see me doing that? Do you see this ascetic claim working out well for us?

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You are most certainly in the minority on that. In any event, you can ask anyone who played in the most recent Boon game and they'll tell you I try to avoid attention as much as possible as scum. All of this bullshit would not be going down, I guarantee it.

-smart

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I have Vedith, Vork, CJ, and dave as town. I think Baezu disagrees with me on a few of those, although I don't know how much she's read.

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I have Vedith, Vork, CJ, and dave as town.

reasons?

Vedith hubris in 863 is usually town.
Vork's posts around the second mason pair claim (pg. 30-31) read as pretty genuine and not staged.
Ceejay reversing his read on awestfie in reaction to me saying I've selfvoted as scum felt more likely to come from town.
Dave I've already said probably doesn't claim miller as scum.
I forgot to mention before but I liked the content of Tchill's 770 and 794 and I also thought his 471 was fairly genuine.

-smart

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Would an experienced scum really coach their partner to push on the mason claim? Wouldn't the experienced player just do it themself rather than deciding "you know, I think somebody else should do this minor action for a shred of towncred rather than me"?

-smart

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You've gotta be kidding me.

We're an ascetic PR. We will reveal more if it's absolutely necessary, but it really shouldn't be. But first things first, someone needs to take us off of L-1.

-smart

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Una is a god but his vote on us reads as the worst of anyone's.

-smart

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I mean, hammering us now would be a scumclaim.

-smart

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So... you just hammered the doctor without letting them claim?

Excellent work sir.

There's a reason we asked to be taken off of L-1.

-smart